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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 19 2015 12:06 GMT
#1152
I'll just trust both your reads on rso then and call you bad if you're wrong. Will read fecal and see if I agree.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 19 2015 12:09 GMT
#1153
Okay I have no idea how you read Fecal as town for what he's posted so far. He posted one comment from Horn from what I can see, and with how many times he's rolled VT I'd expect him to be happier as mafia than as town. I also barely see any game related comments to call logical.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 19 2015 12:10 GMT
#1154
Also curious why you place VE relatively high in your list when he wants to lynch your top town Fecal the most.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 19 2015 12:16 GMT
#1158
Why Vivax rayn?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 19 2015 12:19 GMT
#1165
On March 19 2015 21:16 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 21:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Okay I have no idea how you read Fecal as town for what he's posted so far. He posted one comment from Horn from what I can see, and with how many times he's rolled VT I'd expect him to be happier as mafia than as town. I also barely see any game related comments to call logical.


this isn't strictly true either, it shows he's THINKING about the game, his quote from SL meant that he remembered something to the contrary and brought it to our attention, I think that's pretty towny, especially as he doesn't try and bury sl for it or anything. Then, the miller thing shows he started rereading the game from the start and knows about the roles and picked up on it but not only that, when eden returned he tried to do some trap to catch eden out in a lie. That's super duper towny imo and I like it quite a bit.

also pretty carefree

Okay this I like because it specifically goes in against a mafia agenda regardless of sl's alignment (if he's town he'd try to bury him, if he's scum he wouldn't even bring it up). I can see what you're saying.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 19 2015 12:26 GMT
#1166
Rayn can you explain your thoughts on SL? First you say
On March 19 2015 17:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 10:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Actually what I also find interesting is that he brought up Rayn who hasn't posted yet, yet missed the 9 other players in the signup list. How did he know Rayn was playing from the top of his head?

I'm actually imagining a scenario where he went into the scum qt and saw Rayn as the only notable name.

sicklucker answer this please.

Suggesting suspicion of sicklucker.

Then you move on to say
On March 19 2015 19:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
To be honest i don't really know why people are voting for sicklucker. for being.. sicklucker?


Did you find him having your name on his list suspicious? If so, why did you wonder why people were voting him? If not, why did you want him to answer my question?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 19 2015 12:36 GMT
#1168
Sounds plausible.

I just scrolled through LS' filter and saw like 6 posts in 10 minutes and then a bunch more in a relatively short timeframe. I remember when he rolled mafia in JOAT it cost him a lot of effort to post as mafia, so I think he's probably town for being able to post so freely.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 19 2015 12:46 GMT
#1169
Leaning Town
Trfel
- Questioned # of mafia after Superbia already did and got a nasty response from it. Doesn't seem to be afraid of any backlash, posting carefree.
LightningStrike - See above. Would expect him to have more trouble posting as mafia.
Fecalfeast - Brought up point against SL, didn't try to bury him
ExO_ - Made a stupid question, got called out on it by a lot of people, still responded and came to a reasonable for him conclusion.

Cautiously leaning town
rsoultin - Rayn and HF said so, haven't really looked into her further.
Alakaslam - Genuinely seems to want to change his meta in contrast to last time he rolled scum where he just admitted it was his scum meta.
Holyflare & Damdred - Similar thoughts a few times throughout the game, such as with ExO_ and Alakaslam.

Null
Everyone not on other lists.

Leaning Mafia
Toadesstern - Went after Palmar, then lots of fluff, then went after SL, then suddenly went back to Palmar without Palmar posting in between. Hasn't been as productive as Town!Toad normally is.

##Vote Toadesstern
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 19 2015 12:47 GMT
#1170
That's where I'm at atm.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 19 2015 12:52 GMT
#1173
On March 19 2015 21:50 Palmar wrote:
You're kinda meant to townread me for making that point about you and for making my points about Toad.

You're likely town if Toad is scum, but he hasn't flipped yet and I'd rather not make unflipped associations in that manner. I also don't think that agreeing with my point (presuming you meant the one regarding Super/Trfel) is alignment indicative.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 19 2015 12:55 GMT
#1175
On March 19 2015 21:51 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 21:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
That's where I'm at atm.


Don't understand your Superbia townread, comparing his play with imperial I would say he's a bit more active and less case-y, but he even told you he's capable of more as scum. Given my arguments and the fact you previously found him suspicious IIRC it seems to me like you don't want to step away from that decision, plus now he's back to null for you?

Actually I had him slightly leaning town on my gdoc, just forgot to add him into the list. What I think makes him townie is how he goes after absolutely everything, but backs off when he feels like there's plausible reasons behind it like he did when he pressed me on my tone read of him. It's a weak townread though as mafia could employ a similar strategy. I just feel like the timing that he backed off on me was townish.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 19 2015 12:56 GMT
#1176
On March 19 2015 21:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Artanis remind me of talking to you about something when Damdred comes back.

Why do you need Damdred to talk to me about something?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 19 2015 13:00 GMT
#1179
On March 19 2015 21:59 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 21:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 19 2015 21:50 Palmar wrote:
You're kinda meant to townread me for making that point about you and for making my points about Toad.

You're likely town if Toad is scum, but he hasn't flipped yet and I'd rather not make unflipped associations in that manner. I also don't think that agreeing with my point (presuming you meant the one regarding Super/Trfel) is alignment indicative.

I could be scum busing toad if he flips scum and I could be town and just wrong if he flips town.

Sounds like you're making my point for me. Why am I meant to townread you?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 19 2015 13:06 GMT
#1185
On March 19 2015 22:01 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 22:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 19 2015 21:59 Palmar wrote:
On March 19 2015 21:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 19 2015 21:50 Palmar wrote:
You're kinda meant to townread me for making that point about you and for making my points about Toad.

You're likely town if Toad is scum, but he hasn't flipped yet and I'd rather not make unflipped associations in that manner. I also don't think that agreeing with my point (presuming you meant the one regarding Super/Trfel) is alignment indicative.

I could be scum busing toad if he flips scum and I could be town and just wrong if he flips town.

Sounds like you're making my point for me. Why am I meant to townread you?

Because either my point is genuine and good, or it's not, and Toad's flip has nothing to do with it.

Your point could be genuine and good as either alignment. My point on Toad goes beyond what you laid out. I don't find his angry reaction to you telling, but rather the way he followed up on it. Nothing you have said has made me believe you were clearly one or the other alignment.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 19 2015 13:19 GMT
#1187
Damdred you need to ignite your diesel man. I want to see an eden-case quality post in the next 24 hours.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 19 2015 13:43 GMT
#1200
On March 19 2015 22:35 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 22:34 Holyflare wrote:
also the fact that he's literally only asking random pointless questions that lead nowhere and then trying to start fake shit REALLY REALLY fake shit with palmar and has all these provisional things like "let me wait for damdred and ask you questions later" crap, it's not solving game it's doing silly things to buy time and blend


^ also this kind of gives me the heebie jeebies about artanis atm too because i feel that he is only asking questions and making obvious posts

Wtf, I've townread like 9 different people all with reasoning, was the first to tr ExO, first to tr Trfel, pointed out the superbia/Trfel thing and we've been having similar thoughts throughout the game. If you actually think I can be mafia this game after Imperial and Student Mafia you are insane, scum, or don't know me very well at all.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 19 2015 13:45 GMT
#1201
Also Rayn might be mafia, yes.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 19 2015 13:47 GMT
#1205
On March 19 2015 22:46 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 22:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also Rayn might be mafia, yes.


no he is 100% without a doubt mafia

Last time I saw someone claim someone was 100% without a doubt mafia that slot flipped town.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 19 2015 13:54 GMT
#1212
@Artanis who is more likely to be Mafia between Palmar and Rayn and Why?

Rayn because I don't know what he's doing whereas I do have an idea of what Palmar's doing.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 19 2015 13:56 GMT
#1213
On March 19 2015 22:53 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay so Artanis just answered the question while I was making my big post and saying Rayn but HF is backing him up so here my new question directed at both of you: Had both of you played with Mafia!Rayn before and if Yes can you give me a few example posts he makes as Mafia and compared them to some of his posts here?

I've observed Mafia!Rayn play but I don't think I've actually played with one. The main difference I've observed is that Rayn's quality of arguments as scum is much lower. As town, he usually has sophisticated/grounded reasons for the things he does, whereas as mafia they're more superficial.
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