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Day 3 votes with most certain townreads filled in as green:
Alakaslam (7): Vivax, Damdred, Breshke, Eden1892, Onegu, Artanis[Xp], Superbia
Onegu (4): Trfel, sicklucker, FecalFeast, ritoky
Superbia (2): Alakaslam, Toadesstern
If Breshke is scum, there's a good chance Superbia is scum as he was the first PoE player to move off Superbia. He moved onto Onegu at first, then onto Slam 5 minutes later, showing little preference between the two. This suggests that in a Breshke scum world, Onegu is probably town.
As the wagons were forming, Fecal went pretty quickly for Onegu and didn't go off anymore until the end. He voted for Onegu when Onegu was at 2 votes and Slam was at 2 votes. If Fecal is mafia, Onegu is probably town.
This means that in a world where Onegu is scum, his most likely partners would be Superbia (didn't choose a side until the end) and Damdred (least confirmed non-PoE player), presuming mafia had no intention of bussing.
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Actually I'm not sure on the Breshke part. I need to check what happened in those 5 minutes.
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yeah breshke moved his vote around in a weird manner last phase. I remember that.
he like justified voting for one person, then voted for someone else in the same post. then the moment the winds shifted he followed w/o a word. I remember rescinding my TR on him for it.
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On March 30 2015 05:26 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 05:17 Vivax wrote:On March 30 2015 05:15 ritoky wrote:
I am wrong and damdred is like 93% town would be my conclusion. You got no reasons for a standalone damdred scumread? I am trying to think in terms of teams at this point. The onegu + damdred scum read actually comes almost entirely from damdred's play. The only really excessively scum thing from onegu is his claim stuff. I just think them ignoring eachother links them super hard. So I guess my answer is yes, a lot of standalone damdred reasons, and I am associatively reading Onegu scum for it; but I kinda think they have to be a team.
What makes you want to lynch Onegu first if Damdred is in your opinion scummy on his own? That makes everything sound like bs.
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Like you say lynch Onegu, then Dam is scum, but what makes you think that Onegu is scum comes from Damdred. So you should want to lynch Dam first.
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The only reason I see for you to prefer Onegu first is that it's the easier lynch.
And that's scummy bro.
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On March 30 2015 05:35 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 05:26 ritoky wrote:On March 30 2015 05:17 Vivax wrote:On March 30 2015 05:15 ritoky wrote:
I am wrong and damdred is like 93% town would be my conclusion. You got no reasons for a standalone damdred scumread? I am trying to think in terms of teams at this point. The onegu + damdred scum read actually comes almost entirely from damdred's play. The only really excessively scum thing from onegu is his claim stuff. I just think them ignoring eachother links them super hard. So I guess my answer is yes, a lot of standalone damdred reasons, and I am associatively reading Onegu scum for it; but I kinda think they have to be a team. What makes you want to lynch Onegu first if Damdred is in your opinion scummy on his own? That makes everything sound like bs.
I have been wanting to lynch damdred forever, and even said so like 5 posts ago. The problem is no one will go on damdred with me no matter how hard I try.
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Also how are my claims scum as fuck ritoky?
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Here's where Breshke voted for Onegu:
On March 27 2015 07:09 Breshke wrote:
he argument between artanis and superbia made superbia look worse because i understood what artanis was saying whereas I had no idea wtf superbia was trying to say/do. That being said superbia should still not be lynched today.
Im down for lynching onegu or slam maybe FF but not theres a reason id rather not explain why that is bad this phase.
The people who say slam could be mafia but we shouldnt lynch him and just sort him out with the orb arn't really thinking it through because the orb has a 50% chance to do nothing if slam knows he is going to be orbed and you can literally say the same thing about anyone else you push on.
##Vote Onegu
The single post he made in between:
On March 27 2015 07:12 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2015 07:09 Onegu wrote:On March 27 2015 07:09 Breshke wrote:
he argument between artanis and superbia made superbia look worse because i understood what artanis was saying whereas I had no idea wtf superbia was trying to say/do. That being said superbia should still not be lynched today.
Im down for lynching onegu or slam maybe FF but not theres a reason id rather not explain why that is bad this phase.
The people who say slam could be mafia but we shouldnt lynch him and just sort him out with the orb arn't really thinking it through because the orb has a 50% chance to do nothing if slam knows he is going to be orbed and you can literally say the same thing about anyone else you push on.
##Vote Onegu Sorry you have to change your vote as I cannot self vote urgh i forgot you rng'd me to sheep you asking where i am then voting me makes so much more sense now urgjsdz'gds
Post after which he votes for Slam:
On March 27 2015 07:13 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2015 03:05 Onegu wrote:On March 27 2015 02:59 Alakaslam wrote:
Toad is real vig and deserves more sheep than anyome God I hope breshke votes you. My formula is real. Eden didn't do the math right as it 5+3 as what needs multiplied not just 5 as you use more chupazi, svengali, and hijole in the start and less as the game goes on. But it's still negative which makes you scum. Onegu i forgot you rng to sheep me. This post was weird as fuck because you say you want me to vote slam which makes me think you thought i was town then you vote me. I forgot about the sheep thing. Im switching to slam
It seems Breshke voted for Onegu because Onegu voted for Breshke, which I think he did since he said he'd sheep Breshke and Breshke hadn't voted anyone yet. I still find the whole situation really weird though and I want Breshke to explain wtf was going on and why he switched to Onegu and then to Slam. I also want to know from Onegu if my supposed reason for his Breshke vote is correct.
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On March 30 2015 05:38 Onegu wrote:
Also how are my claims scum as fuck ritoky?
we have been over this twice before lol. the basics are fake claim = town confusion = good for mafia = mafia motivations.
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On March 30 2015 05:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Day 3 votes with most certain townreads filled in as green:
Alakaslam (7): Vivax, Damdred, Breshke, Eden1892, Onegu, Artanis[Xp], Superbia
Onegu (4): Trfel, sicklucker, FecalFeast, ritoky
Superbia (2): Alakaslam, Toadesstern
If Breshke is scum, there's a good chance Superbia is scum as he was the first PoE player to move off Superbia. He moved onto Onegu at first, then onto Slam 5 minutes later, showing little preference between the two. This suggests that in a Breshke scum world, Onegu is probably town.
As the wagons were forming, Fecal went pretty quickly for Onegu and didn't go off anymore until the end. He voted for Onegu when Onegu was at 2 votes and Slam was at 2 votes. If Fecal is mafia, Onegu is probably town.
This means that in a world where Onegu is scum, his most likely partners would be Superbia (didn't choose a side until the end) and Damdred (least confirmed non-PoE player), presuming mafia had no intention of bussing.
TBF I bus the shit out of my scum mates
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This'd be scum mates bussing the shit out of you though rather than the other way around.
I also find it hard to imagine scum would bus when there's an easy mislynch in Slam available.
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On March 30 2015 05:39 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 05:38 Onegu wrote:
Also how are my claims scum as fuck ritoky? we have been over this twice before lol. the basics are fake claim = town confusion = good for mafia = mafia motivations.
Not all fake claims are bad. I mean seriously. It didn't quite accomplish what I wanted but in a world where SL doesn't get the orb he still becomes almost confirmed town with how he reacted to HF being my mason partner. And I don't think it was that confusing plus I drew a mafia shot, how is that not good for town?
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I have to go in 15 minutes, so I need to know if an ff or onegu switch is happening soon. if not, I am willing to believe in artanis' read of superbia over breshke.
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Actually I'm curious, Ritoky, had you introduced the Onegu-Damdred connection yet by the time the D3 EoN lynch was going on? I think you did but it'd be nice to know for sure.
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On March 30 2015 05:43 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 05:39 ritoky wrote:On March 30 2015 05:38 Onegu wrote:
Also how are my claims scum as fuck ritoky? we have been over this twice before lol. the basics are fake claim = town confusion = good for mafia = mafia motivations. Not all fake claims are bad. I mean seriously. It didn't quite accomplish what I wanted but in a world where SL doesn't get the orb he still becomes almost confirmed town with how he reacted to HF being my mason partner. And I don't think it was that confusing plus I drew a mafia shot, how is that not good for town?
or you could have been mafia prevented from delivering a shot? lol jk works both ways.
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On March 30 2015 05:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Here's where Breshke voted for Onegu: Show nested quote +On March 27 2015 07:09 Breshke wrote:
he argument between artanis and superbia made superbia look worse because i understood what artanis was saying whereas I had no idea wtf superbia was trying to say/do. That being said superbia should still not be lynched today.
Im down for lynching onegu or slam maybe FF but not theres a reason id rather not explain why that is bad this phase.
The people who say slam could be mafia but we shouldnt lynch him and just sort him out with the orb arn't really thinking it through because the orb has a 50% chance to do nothing if slam knows he is going to be orbed and you can literally say the same thing about anyone else you push on.
##Vote Onegu The single post he made in between: Show nested quote +On March 27 2015 07:12 Breshke wrote:On March 27 2015 07:09 Onegu wrote:On March 27 2015 07:09 Breshke wrote:
he argument between artanis and superbia made superbia look worse because i understood what artanis was saying whereas I had no idea wtf superbia was trying to say/do. That being said superbia should still not be lynched today.
Im down for lynching onegu or slam maybe FF but not theres a reason id rather not explain why that is bad this phase.
The people who say slam could be mafia but we shouldnt lynch him and just sort him out with the orb arn't really thinking it through because the orb has a 50% chance to do nothing if slam knows he is going to be orbed and you can literally say the same thing about anyone else you push on.
##Vote Onegu Sorry you have to change your vote as I cannot self vote urgh i forgot you rng'd me to sheep you asking where i am then voting me makes so much more sense now urgjsdz'gds Post after which he votes for Slam: Show nested quote +On March 27 2015 07:13 Breshke wrote:On March 27 2015 03:05 Onegu wrote:On March 27 2015 02:59 Alakaslam wrote:
Toad is real vig and deserves more sheep than anyome God I hope breshke votes you. My formula is real. Eden didn't do the math right as it 5+3 as what needs multiplied not just 5 as you use more chupazi, svengali, and hijole in the start and less as the game goes on. But it's still negative which makes you scum. Onegu i forgot you rng to sheep me. This post was weird as fuck because you say you want me to vote slam which makes me think you thought i was town then you vote me. I forgot about the sheep thing. Im switching to slam It seems Breshke voted for Onegu because Onegu voted for Breshke, which I think he did since he said he'd sheep Breshke and Breshke hadn't voted anyone yet. I still find the whole situation really weird though and I want Breshke to explain wtf was going on and why he switched to Onegu and then to Slam. I also want to know from Onegu if my supposed reason for his Breshke vote is correct.
This is correct I was reminded of vote and If something came up I wanted my vote someone and since i rng'd him I put my vote there until he voted.
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On March 25 2015 05:51 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2015 05:39 Damdred wrote:
Also just a observation if I get lynched soon tonight is interesting. Like all of a sudden Palmar says why I'm not up for lynch and stopping it there, ritoky says he doesn't like me but gives a weak read based on conjecture ans besides that and shows nothing from my small filter why he hates me. He has a great way to read me but decides not to.
And now vivax says damdred paranoia. Its interesting to me you're not utilizing your read on me either. hello pot, i am kettle. i wrote down immediately in my notes: mason or mafia next to you. i just don't think the line of play you're taking in regards to me is something you would do if you were playing from an individual pov, it seems more like an approach you would take if you were collaborating. i feel like if you were solo you would be more confident in your read on me versus meta stuff on rayn. my read on you usually takes about 36 hours to really get it down though. so in about 24 hours ask me damdred's alignment and i will give it to you with 100% accuracy.
On March 25 2015 06:24 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2015 06:20 Damdred wrote:
Who is against a ritoky/Rayn lynch and for what reason Are you mason with onegu? Your filter has 0 interaction with him whatsoever. In fact you seem to go out of your way to ignore him.
this was where I introduced it, page 303...dunno where exactly that is in game chronology off the top of my head
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Like here's what I'm thinking presuming Ritoky had introduced it:
The only reason scum would be okay with an Onegu bus over an easy Slam lynch is if a scum Onegu flip would severely incriminate Damdred enough to make him a potential mislynch. Therefore if Onegu is scum, his scum teammates are either Fecal and Ritoky (only two non-confirmeds who voted Onegu) or Damdred and Superbia but probably nothing in between. I don't see a world in which Breshke and Onegu are scum together as Breshke didn't really care which of the two he lynched.
I may be going waaay too deep into unflipped associations though.
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