EPTTL Mafia LXX: Guardians of the Galaxy - Page 393
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ritoky
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Artanis[Xp]
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Also, what's your feeling on Superbia right now after my exchange with him? | ||
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ritoky
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On March 30 2015 04:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Well, what did you think about my explanations regarding the orb, and why did you ask Vivax in particular? Also, what's your feeling on Superbia right now after my exchange with him? I read the orb stuff, and I think I kinda understand your point now. I still think that since the play wasn't made it indicates that your PoE is wrong somewhere. You said something like I could be mafia sowing doubts, or mafia could be waiting for someone to make this point. I know I am town, so I am just taking the simple answer: there is likely something wrong with the PoE. Regarding vivax, I re-read it. I still dunno why particularly, but my general sense is that I felt at the time everyone was pidgeon holing into the same beliefs which included me as mafia and vivax was the only one considering alternatives, so that is probably why I prompted him. superbia.....him and breshke are kinda at the same place where I just don't have a real solid grasp on their alignment. I think Onegu + damdred are together, and I find FF's dumbtells to be forced and fake (along with his utter uselessness); so I would put all 3 of them ahead of superbia/breshke for now | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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ritoky
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someone actively not solving the game is always going to read more scum to me than someone passively not solving the game | ||
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ritoky
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Artanis[Xp]
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ritoky
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Vivax
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On March 30 2015 04:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote: What I mean is. Ritoky and Superbia talked a bunch yesterday. Did you see anything interesting in there that changed your opinion on either of them? Dunno what's the point of asking if you didn't see anything? Feels like an empty question since you don't have an own answer. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On March 30 2015 04:53 Vivax wrote: Dunno what's the point of asking if you didn't see anything? Feels like an empty question since you don't have an own answer. I did. I think Superbia looks scummy for the argumentation I've given. I also think Ritoky's answers have made sense, but I want to know what YOU think of them so that I have a second opinion. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On March 30 2015 04:51 ritoky wrote: there's no way it's going to shift on onegu or ff? I would vastly prefer those :/ If you want to shift people to another lynch why aren't you doing something about it? It's 2 hours to lynch and you're just being passive. | ||
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ritoky
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FF - what has he done? supposedly he did some stuff that was "really townie" according to himself early on. after that he has done absolutely jack shit other than make excuses and talk about how he is certainly going to be in LYLO. his excuses have been fake, forced, and not funny. he has voted on a shitload of town, promised to do filter dives and not delivered, and has made 0 effort to push the game in any direction this phase. effort isn't always an indicator of alignment but his time in thread vs scum hunting ratio is utter crap. onegu - we should lynch onegu because he fake claimed, backed out of it, re-upped it, got rebuffed, then rescinded. that should not go unpunished and is scum as fuck. I also think if he is mafia he is 100% with damdred, so flipping him will give damdred's alignment too. there are also people in the game (can't recall names atm) who's scum read on rayn is cuz of a fake claim, but they TR onegu, which makes no sense to me. it would give perspective on people's alignments from that pov. but the most important point is that damdred is mafia, and if he is mafia he is 100% with onegu because they completely ignored eachother until I entered the game and prompted interaction. I will vote either of these 2 over super/breshke atm. I would prefer onegu first. | ||
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ritoky
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Vivax
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Now actually reading what super wrote like 20 minutes before ritoky replied. I'ma just do this: Ritoky, I don't even know where he's at, to be honest. His opinion seems uninformed, and I don't think a town would be comfortable lynching someone who they have been unable to form a proper opinion about. Moreover, the rayn slot seems incredibly fishy. I scum-read rayn before the claim (iirc), and I don't understand the rescind off the PR, nor why scum seemingly did not put an RB or a KP on him (more on this later). I can see why rayn would fake claim in that scenario as town, as he had been tired of people not listening to him in previous games, and he may be uninterested in defending himself, but it's so bad as town, because it can bait out a CC. Furthermore, I don't think he used his position of temporary confirmed town to push anything (again, iirc). The fact that this fake-claim has (seemingly, and iirc, I haven't actually read the majority of d2, tbh) not been fully explored yet is alarming to say the least. So yeah this is a pretty bad read from super. I colored the nullish, the scummish and the townish stuff he says. He effectively invalidates the only reasoning he uses is the tracker claim and no mention of what made him scumread rayn before the claim. Next post is also weird: This world only makes sense if Vivax is actually mafia, and scum were looking to confirm Vivax by foregoing the roleblock and claiming it on Vivax OR if Onegu was carrying the KP that was going on rayn. This is still rather speculative, but I think this is a good reason to lynch Ritoky (ex-rayn) today. Why is it a good reason to lynch ritoky if super thinks that Onegu was carrying KP and that I'm not mafia? He might as well just conclude that Onegu is mafia, so meh, can't get behind his logic as a reason to scumread ritoky. | ||
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Half the Sky
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Superbia (4): Toadesstern, Artanis[Xp], Onegu, Trfel Breshke (2): Vivax, Damdred Onegu (1): sicklucker, ritoky (1): Superbia Not Voting (3): Breshke, Fecalfeast, ritoky Currently, no one is set to be executed. Day 4 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00). Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone. Voting is mandatory and in this thread. You may NOT abstain. Posting after the deadline and prior to flip is subject to a modkill. | ||
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Vivax
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ritoky
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Vivax
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On March 30 2015 05:15 ritoky wrote: I am wrong and damdred is like 93% town would be my conclusion. You got no reasons for a standalone damdred scumread? | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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My preference is Superbia>Breshke>Onegu>FF... I think. I need to check Onegu again. I wish he was posting here too instead of [REDACTED]. | ||
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ritoky
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On March 30 2015 05:17 Vivax wrote: You got no reasons for a standalone damdred scumread? I am trying to think in terms of teams at this point. The onegu + damdred scum read actually comes almost entirely from damdred's play. The only really excessively scum thing from onegu is his claim stuff. I just think them ignoring eachother links them super hard. So I guess my answer is yes, a lot of standalone damdred reasons, and I am associatively reading Onegu scum for it; but I kinda think they have to be a team. | ||
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