EPTSorry, instead of time alive, it's number of pages at time of death.
So amend my example to say that there were 100 pages of filter. 20 pgs of filter for me, I die n1, 20 players in game. 20 / 20 / 100 * 1000 = 10.0, which is still extreme lol
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Sorry, instead of time alive, it's number of pages at time of death. So amend my example to say that there were 100 pages of filter. 20 pgs of filter for me, I die n1, 20 players in game. 20 / 20 / 100 * 1000 = 10.0, which is still extreme lol | ||
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BUT "HE TALKS 2ME LIKE IM CONFIRMD TOWN SO I MUST B TOWN" - tlmafia.net | ||
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i think right now my pile of lynches is: - fecalfeast - superbia - breshke - onegu - ritoky probably in that order, too. definitely never lynch vigs, me, trfel, sl almost definitely never lynch arty, damd i keep waffling on slam but hopefully the orb sorts that out although honestly we have 6 lynches... so unless there's a fakeclaimed vig i'm pretty sure we just lynch that whole list and call it a day | ||
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basically unless arty or damd is playing a hell of a scum game we have the POE list right there | ||
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Onegu if your vote is locked in why aren't you voting? | ||
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will be deciding my vote in the next hourish. apparently i have work from 4-10 tonight | ||
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Vivax you're drunk go home | ||
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On March 27 2015 04:33 Toadesstern wrote: Eden, do you think posts like this:show good intent and the idea that Onegu was fakeclaiming to draw hits as well as help town or does it look like he abused it for something else? I can't figure out what that something else would be. Looks completely within his town range and mafia range, also looks pointless | ||
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(1) SCIENCE BITCH (2) The fact that he seemed to just be arguing points with Artanis instead of actually trying to figure anything out or get anywherre and say we lynch Superbia today. (1) is pretty self-evident, of the people who I bothered to do my Advanced AnalysisTM on Superbia's data clearly fit scum profile rather than town. (2), when I read that argument (and I'm gonna reread to find examples or reevaluate if I'm wrong), it seemed more like Superbia was interested in arguing the individual points Artanis was raising instead of demonstrating why he was town instead of scum. I got the impression that it was debate without a conclusion. I'm not really sure why Artanis was satisfied with it, but I don't think it means anything for his alignment, so idgaf. | ||
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On March 26 2015 22:36 Superbia wrote: Your reads haven't been "fluid". They've been chaotic. I've demonstrated that your "reads" do not influence your progression whatsoever. You move top scum to hard town in a split second. You are town-read your previous top scum after he does exactly what you predicted he would do if he were scum (partial thanks to FF for pointing that out). So this is a good example. This doesn't actually prove that Artanis is mafia. Superbia is interested in demonstrating that Artanis's reads were chaotic instead of fluid. Sweet argument, who the fuck cares, is he town or mafia for this? He almost gets to the point of arguing that something might be mafia-indicative (disconnect between stated reads and apparent progression of those reads), but he uses one example (Vivax read) that is actually pretty reasonable to flip like that on (since Vivax really dialed his game up around n1). Later on is more damning to me: On March 26 2015 22:54 Superbia wrote: I bussed in Imperial? Hardly. I threw some scum on Ritoky (iirc), my team mate. That's about it. You can't half-ass this shit. Expand all the quotes and read it. I snipped some of the older stuff that's not relevant, you can read that on your own if you wish. You'll notice that Superbia doesn't bother to rebut the arguments Artanis made about his play in this game, only instead demanding that Artanis also make a meta argument against him. When Artanis says he hasn't meta-read Superbia, Superbia rebuts by saying that one of Artanis's points was based on meta. He doesn't actually try to rebut the point being made based on meta, notice; he just corrects Artanis on the fact that one point was meta-based. Artanis rightfully tells him that he's arguing points instead of reads and demands his case be addressed again; Superbia responds by halfway-arguing that in one game in the past he didn't bus. This doesn't even rebut the substantive part of the one point being made (that Superbia buses as mafia), it's just semantics about one example. The rest of the case goes unaddressed. This guy is just arguing to argue. | ||
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(1) Him starting to show doubt on his read on you doesn't mean anything. He could be backing off as scum because he doesn't want to argue with you further because he can't, which is entirely consistent with him dodging your case and nitpicking semantics. (2) He didn't bother to try to force something by comparing to Imperial because fuck going through 30+ pages of your filter in a 500+ pg game just to maybe throw some doubt on you that won't get you lynched. Much better to pacify you by trying to tr you while still not addressing your case. I'm okay enough with the Breshke one for now. FF one might be legit, I forgot about that. I would rather lynch Superbia anyway so yeah. Meh. I'd rather orb Slam and I don't know about the Onegu one. | ||
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On March 27 2015 04:55 Vivax wrote: Fuck it I'm rescinding the convincing promise 2 h pre-lynch. Y'all too bad while I called out scum D1 and N2. Don't even wanna bother against jubjubs. Wat | ||
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Oh yeah. You swayed to vote Superbia Vivaxbro? | ||
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On March 27 2015 05:03 ritoky wrote: eden, how strong is that read on superbia? cuz i kinda had the same no traction, and backing out of a read feelz that you did. Strong enough that I'm lynching him over it Thinking back a bit, I remember a comment he made toward me where he basically insinuated that I was likely to be biased against him due to my earlier read. This came while I was questioning him on something. In hindsight it kinda reeks of this debate club, point-out-fallacies-without-forming-useful-conclusions "style" that I feel like comes from mafia mindset more than town mindset. Townies argue as a means to the end of finding mafia. Mafia argue as a means to the end of looking engaged. For townies, argument is strictly a tool through which reads are formed, so they're less likely to just argue aimlessly about the minutia of particular points - they might get into stupid arguments but it's always for the purpose of trying to develop reads on other players. Mafia otoh can and do easily fall into the trap of engaging points about players without trying to make a read on them. It makes them look like they're helping and being useful without committing them to a read. I don't really feel like Superbia's arguing this game has been the townie kind of arguing, with the exception of his case on Artanis, which he's promptly walked back anyway. | ||
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On March 27 2015 05:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Drops a big case on me and is "anxious to see me reply", then goes afk for 33 hours in which time I had replied, happens to come back right as I case him and barely seems interested in anything but nitpicking. Bingo. He sorta revisited his case once with the Vivax point, but that quickly devolved into aimless arguing, and he just kinda drops the rest without engaging you on it at all | ||
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On March 27 2015 05:13 Damdred wrote: Who all's on super now arty, me, ff | ||
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On March 27 2015 05:15 ritoky wrote: get sold by art and eden, vote in vote thread. return to thread, hit f5. read this ![[image loading]](http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i473/Cinematicssheehan/uneasy.gif) lmao | ||
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