EPTTL Mafia LXX: Guardians of the Galaxy - Page 34
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On March 26 2015 09:50 Damdred wrote: I dont understand, this just seems like something that is impossible being spewed Yes but it's the kind of thing I can't fathom scum coming up with. Also the first thing holds true. | ||
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On March 26 2015 09:51 Alakaslam wrote: If i remove myself from bias and look at my position I recognize that scumreading me is only a little aggressive. Null reading should be natural. Vivax and Eden are objectively townie, although, I strongly believe I have privelidge to believe Vivax is scum. They agree on FF, I want to hear from FF and for now am voting him. I have been nullreading you since pretty much the start. Why did you put me in a scumteam? | ||
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On March 26 2015 09:55 Damdred wrote: Honestly disagree. Why wpud scum lie in this situation when all they have to say is I haven't interacted with tons of people. The fact remains after pinging ls out at an odd juncture ls barely interacted any and palmar totally ignored bresh. Tthe problems lie both ways not just one It's the tone that's important here. He didn't look for excuses, he just straight up said it, then moved on to the rest of his post. When did he ping out LS exactly? Haven't looked into that yet. Also Palmar didn't really interact with a lot of people since he spent most of the game talking about non-game related things or Toad/Rayn. | ||
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On March 26 2015 09:57 Alakaslam wrote: Why is Vivax claim assumed to be true? Why is a blue heavy setup assumed? Because Vivax has played way beyond his scum capacity in terms of both posting frequency and tin foil hat theories to be scum. | ||
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On March 26 2015 09:59 Alakaslam wrote: And I have posted way less c word and h word to be town. No, this meta bullshit isn't going to fly. You can call it meta bullshit if you wish. It's 99.99% likely to be true. | ||
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On March 26 2015 10:04 Alakaslam wrote: Because being pissed is generally better than this cold unreasonable sudden sadness, not going there, and I have a lot of reason to be pissed anyway But I have done nothing to antagonize you. I simply believe my reason for townreading Vivax is highly likely to be correct. What are you looking for from me exactly? | ||
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On March 26 2015 10:07 Alakaslam wrote: Oh I am equal opportunity pissed, you should see the blue fire i hissed at Vivax and eden That doesn't really answer my question. What do you want me to say so that this conversation can actually become productive? | ||
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On March 26 2015 10:11 Alakaslam wrote: It doesn't actually need to continue. You can be any alignment and find Vivax town because it makes general sense. I know that TL scumteam are smart enough to be unconventional. How do we have two vigilante just strikes me as less likely than one got away with a fakeclaim somehow and has been running with it since. I think you highly overestimate Vivax' capabilities as mafia if you believe he can be mafia this game. I find that much less likely than us having two vigis. | ||
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Gotta look into him a bit more I guess | ||
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On March 26 2015 10:30 Trfel wrote: Artanis, why do you think that Onegu is town? While this post failed to account for Onegu's read on rsoultin and the fact that Onegu has a soul read on raynpelikoneet, I think it is correct in that there is no real downside for mafia fake-claiming vigilante, and there is incentive to do so. I did some meta reading. On March 25 2015 23:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Okay there's something in Onegu's tone I noticed in Neat & Tidy (mafia) that struck my eye because it felt very un-Oneguish. There's something that feels very defeatist about this, and it's formulated in a way very differently to how Onegu said he's fine with getting lynched this game. It feels more... theatrical, like he has to put on a show. Onegu this game has not felt like he's putting on a show at all. I think I'm going to go with town onegu for now. Also Palmar seemingly committing on Onegu if he doesn't claim (which, if Onegu is mafia, Palmar already knows Onegu can't/won't do) is also an argument in his favour. | ||
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On March 25 2015 02:26 Vivax wrote: So Artanis pretends he'd scumread Palmar or Slam based on his PoE but watch how he starts doing other stuff during the day. My prediction is that if Onegu finally hard claims he's going hard on superbia, keeps pushing the notion that Trfel hard bussed LS, or is going to keep picking on ritoky. Mark my words. 0/3 | ||
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On March 26 2015 10:56 Trfel wrote: Artanis, I've heard from a very experienced and capable mafia player that process of elimination is not advisable when there are lots of players still alive in the game. Thoughts? It makes sense. With 13 people there are 10 that are town and 3 mafia, meaning any slot has 77% chance of being town. It's much harder to go from 77% town to 95%+ town on 10 slots than it is to go to ~50% mafia on one slot. However, with the way the game has gone and all the blueclaims and orbs, I feel it's landed us much closer to a situation where PoE is possible. SL and you are confirmed through orb usage, Toad/Vivax through how the claim went down, and Eden through general gameplay. Taking out myself, that knocks it down to 7 slots in which 3 are mafia. Suddenly, PoE becomes a lot stronger. | ||
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On March 26 2015 11:01 Trfel wrote: Hm, I disagree with the Onegu town read. Maybe there's something you're seeing in his tone that I'm not. Artanis, why are you townreading raynpelikoneet/ritoky again? Palmar went after him quite hard throughout D1 and Palmar generally doesn't bus. Ritoky in general has played pretty well since subbing in too. He's kinda falling off again though. | ||
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On March 26 2015 11:13 Trfel wrote: Does Palmar really never bus? I find that hard to believe. And unreliable, since eventually he's going to bus someone. I'm sure he busses sometimes, but I find it doubtful he'd start out with a shitfight on Rayn of all people as scum on scum. | ||
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