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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 24 2015 17:25 GMT
#5976
On March 25 2015 02:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 02:22 Vivax wrote:
On March 25 2015 02:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 25 2015 02:16 Vivax wrote:
On March 25 2015 02:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 25 2015 02:13 Vivax wrote:
Artanis, who of the following people would you lynch tomorrow?

Palmar
FF
Slam

I'd need to read their filters first. I've been mostly busy trying to make sure my townreads are solid and that everyone's on one line on them. I haven't gone into the filters of Palmar and Slam properly yet, but by PoE I'm fine with them. I've still got a townread on FF but it's the weakest of the 9 as I have mentioned.


So if I start a wagon on Palmar or Slam you would be willing to join it or are you going to do your own thing?

I'd be fine with either at this point. I think I can narrow down my PoE list to 6 after Onegu claims and I make up my mind on FF, so carpet bombing into the rest would secure a victory either way.


Fine with either isn't enough. I'm trying to get you committed as I will quote your answer before the night ends to not let you slip away from this.

Will.You.Push.Palmar.Or.Slam?

I'm not going to commit to any push when I haven't read their filters. Stop being dumb Vivax.


Sick excuse son
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 24 2015 17:26 GMT
#5978
So Artanis pretends he'd scumread Palmar or Slam based on his PoE but watch how he starts doing other stuff during the day.

My prediction is that if Onegu finally hard claims he's going hard on superbia, keeps pushing the notion that Trfel hard bussed LS, or is going to keep picking on ritoky.

Mark my words.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 24 2015 17:27 GMT
#5979
And don't listen to Toad in any regard as that guy shot VE over Slam and should be excluded from any decision making for not knowing how to play proper vig.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 24 2015 18:16 GMT
#5982
On March 25 2015 03:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
If you guys are serious I can do filter diving or whatever and actually play.

How is me making a case a scumtell, though?


Why did you put all that gimmick on the LS case (youtub vid, strikethrough on his posts) but not on your rsolt case later in the day?

Where are your TRs on D1? You pretty much stayed on the sidelines during the Toad/me stuff without giving a hard opinion on who you think is town, just half assed questions to other people why they believed one guy over the other etc.

You said like you go for believing the CCer (Toad) and leave your vote on LS for the entire duration.

You just look artificial son.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 24 2015 18:51 GMT
#5984
On March 25 2015 03:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 03:16 Vivax wrote:
On March 25 2015 03:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
If you guys are serious I can do filter diving or whatever and actually play.

How is me making a case a scumtell, though?


Why did you put all that gimmick on the LS case (youtub vid, strikethrough on his posts) but not on your rsolt case later in the day?

Where are your TRs on D1? You pretty much stayed on the sidelines during the Toad/me stuff without giving a hard opinion on who you think is town, just half assed questions to other people why they believed one guy over the other etc.

You said like you go for believing the CCer (Toad) and leave your vote on LS for the entire duration.

You just look artificial son.

idk

if they aren't in my filter I'm not sure I can help you

I left my vote on LS because I honestly wasn't reading at that point and made the general statement that I'm more likely to side with the counter-claimer in this situation


In short for: "I didn't care who was getting lynched but keeping my vote on my scumbuddy made me feel safe anyway"
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 24 2015 19:12 GMT
#5986
You couldn't possibly be more apathetic than that
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 24 2015 19:28 GMT
#5990
On March 19 2015 22:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 22:54 Vivax wrote:
On March 19 2015 22:52 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back and saw a answer from Toad on my question regarding him and Palmar in Hammertime when they both were town:
On March 19 2015 12:20 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 19 2015 12:10 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 19 2015 12:00 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 19 2015 11:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 19 2015 11:50 Toadesstern wrote:
Like everyone's talking about how I'm playing different than I used to last games... no shit I got killed on first cycle like 4 times in a row and lost 4 games in a row now. Last game in particular I feel like I lost because I was trolling too much and didn't get enough out in time which ended in people not lynching Sandroba when he was 100% mafia on my sheet.

I needed to be a lot more serious in that game early on and we could have won

Ya you kinda got lynched because Palmars tunneling you that's the thing in Hammertime. Also I can understand a little bit on why you thought you need to be more serious after JOAT but still it just odd playing with a already serious you.

I mean if I get mafiaread for being different or more serious than I played in my last couple games there's nothing I can and will say about that other than my occasional banter about how that's not alignment indicative at all unless someone points out how different means scummy... because there's nothing I can say about it. I am playing differently (probably)

With that being said, if that's what it's like I'll just ignore everything in that direction from now on and just focus on getting my reads out a little bit earlier than last game and making sure I get them out properly explained. Got angry about Palmar pulling the same shit he did in Hammertime when he should know better and talked myself into a wolf... won't happen again and this is the last post about it.

Ya true about Palmar should know better on that but you seemed to taken it more personally o.o Are you still offended by Palmar's thing on you in Hammertime when you both were town?


from JoaT:
On March 03 2015 08:08 Toadesstern wrote:
Fear not guyses for I have yet again rolled neither mafia nor Ninja. Thus I will proceed to kill all those mafias and not be mislynched d1 despite being called fucking confirmed town 24-36hours into the game.

Let me check real quick if Palmar is in the game

not really offended but annoyed. I thought he was town early on doing it on purpose to start some discussion or get some read from me based on how I'd react if he misreads me again like that, so yeah I got annoyed at the possible idea of having to deal with that again because he might make someone else agree with it... Right know I'm pretty sure he's mafia for keeping at it and knowing that it annoys me.

Can some of the guys who think my tone is so awful and completly different this game please go ahead and at least compare that post above with my first post in here instead of just believing all this about how my tone is completly different?

Props for nailing it on my seriousness though LS. Because yeah, that did change, just not the thing Palmar and HF mentioned.

I don't a see a big tone difference on your entrance to this game compared to JOAT regarding Palmar and I wouldn't blame on you on that because as a Cohost in Hammertime I kinda felt bad and I shoulda warned him on his Kill Toad spam and I didn't if I recalled.
Also rsoultin not wanting to give her read on me this early to Eden but I don't blame her because I rolled Mafia in JOAT when she was town and called me Town by meta and will have to bleed green this game.
So I saw Palmar and Rayn going at each other and saw Artanis trying to stop it but I remember Artanis so townie in Imperial yet when he lynched Town!Palmar he basically looked pure Mafia (Scum if you prefer to use that term) so I might need to wait on reading him esp because he just rolled Mafia in Student VI which I was coaching the Cop and the Vet and the Cop caught him with a Cop check so ya I going to be careful reading him. Also he got a decent point about a chance that Palmar or Rayn are Mafia and the other town due to their interactions esp Palmar stuff early on about Toad and I not going to make the same mistake I did in Titanic and give a easy townread on Palmar Day 1. I also have yet to play with Mafia!Rayn so I might be a bit bias on him being town compared to Palmar so meh.
@Artanis who is more likely to be Mafia between Palmar and Rayn and Why?
@ExO Where you at on reads considering our past history with each other?


Oh god this post is so mafia

Have you played with LS before? This is how LS plays.


On March 19 2015 23:01 Damdred wrote:
Honestly the initial give I got from ls post was he was town. But yea I want his reads


On March 19 2015 23:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Hm I just went through LS' filter on JOAT and actually he did post a few consecutive posts. I guess what stuck to me was how he mentioned in the scumqt how hard it was to post and how the rest of the team had to really encourage him to post.


I think the reactions to me calling him mafia holds some interesting reactions.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 24 2015 19:29 GMT
#5991
On March 19 2015 22:58 Palmar wrote:
LS are you blue?


And this.

Artanis and Palmar stick out the most to me of the reactions. Damdred's answer is probably the most townie, not the way Artanis goes against my read and then double checks himself as a safety measure.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 24 2015 19:30 GMT
#5992
But maybe I'm biased about Damdred, I'm still somewhat paranoid on him.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 24 2015 19:36 GMT
#5996
On March 25 2015 04:33 rsoultin wrote:
like i think i buy the Artanis is just killing it as scum theory over FF making a case on a townie and pushing that case lol if it was just the LS case i could see it, but...


FF making a case on a townie? What are you talking about?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 24 2015 19:41 GMT
#6001
On March 25 2015 04:39 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 04:36 Vivax wrote:
On March 25 2015 04:33 rsoultin wrote:
like i think i buy the Artanis is just killing it as scum theory over FF making a case on a townie and pushing that case lol if it was just the LS case i could see it, but...


FF making a case on a townie? What are you talking about?


me xP


Tbh people should be scumreading him just for the fact he makes cases.
But I didn't mention that. Yet. Anyway FF is mafia, so is Artanis. If I'm alive tomorrow I'll keep trying to hammer this into your heads.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 24 2015 20:25 GMT
#6015
On March 25 2015 05:16 Eden1892 wrote:
Vivax, why are you locking in on Fecalfeast as mafia here for his push on LightningStrike and not giving the same level of attention to Superbia's push? I think Superbia's push is clearly more suspicious out of the two. I understand you TR'd Superbia earlier for his off-topic posting when he returned to the thread, but I don't feel like it's terribly difficult to find similar examples for Fecalfeast, and so I'm not sure why you seem to be disregarding Superbia's push here...


Expand on superbias push being suspicious? And what makes you TR FF at all? I don't understand why you get the feeling of having to side with FF here unless you got a damn good reason to TR him. Your whole argument is "why you scumreading FF but not superbia", it just sounds like whining.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 24 2015 20:27 GMT
#6016
On March 25 2015 04:52 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 04:44 rsoultin wrote:
On March 25 2015 04:40 ritoky wrote:
On March 25 2015 04:30 Vivax wrote:
But maybe I'm biased about Damdred, I'm still somewhat paranoid on him.


i think you're justified in your paranoia. he pushed some meta about rayn to try and insta-plynch me when i subbed in. which if i was another person would have been meh. but the fact that he has a 99% accuracy read on me and still pushed it is absolutely bizarre to me.


considering how many of us are actually aware of the game he's talking about...

eh, nvm lol i wasn't gonna talk. evil people being too interesting xP


if you're 4realz JK, which i don't have any reason to believe you're not. could you start playing like i did in mspaint instead of "letting other's solve the game for you"?


It's called asking to be spoonfed the game.
L2 be a dick.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 24 2015 20:39 GMT
#6023
On March 25 2015 05:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 05:33 Damdred wrote:
Honestly, I want to say one thing. I find it unsettling a bit the lack of paranoia towards rayns slot by vivax for almost a cycle and a half. Even as ritoky has replaced in his lack of paranoia towards it but his sudden paranoia towards me just rubs me the wrong way in this situation.

Ff been really aggressive and puts cases out as town now. He's playing like he's town.

Vivax isn't scum tho. He might be playing like scum and probably will side with scum but he can't be scum simply for his activity, that and the fact that he's playing standard town crazy conspiracy theory against the grain Vivax.


Grain is and will always be dumb.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 24 2015 20:41 GMT
#6027
Artanis repertoire of strategies:

- Called scum -> Proceed to try your best to discredit the pursuers reads by calling him insane.
- Called whatever -> Post how Trfel bussed LS, how ExO might not be Dt etc. etc.

Objectively, the conspiracy theorist isn't me.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 24 2015 20:41 GMT
#6028
On March 25 2015 05:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
And you're not getting lynched Dammy boy, don't worry. I will have none of it.


The buddying is real
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 24 2015 20:42 GMT
#6030
On March 25 2015 05:41 Damdred wrote:
I know it might sound stupid but I am a probable mislynch at this point and my filter is much shorter th as n some.


List me everyone who suggested lynching you tomorrow? THis is just nonsense.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 24 2015 20:49 GMT
#6043
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/472628-tl-mafia-lxix-carol-of-the-bells?user=Fecalfeast&view=all

Read this filter and tell me if it looks like the FF in this game.

NOT AT ALL. The style, the tone, the posts are all completely different, which is what I refer to when I say that the town FF I know doesn't make cases. This is my most memorable example of a town FF cause I hated his style and was scumreading him for a while in that game, whereas in this game I get the feeling he's trying to play to a more popular standard to not get caught.

On March 25 2015 05:45 Damdred wrote:
These are just people casually sayinf why aren't we not looking at damdred, or I dislike damdred or ! candlelIght be Scum. Its just a observation at this point though


It would help if you weren't the guy who made the case on the wagon scum was keen on joining on D1, including Artanis obv.
At the very least I can call you baaaaaad, and bad players get the paranoia card, you have to deal with it. And anyway Artanis,FF, Slam are all higher on my list.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 24 2015 20:58 GMT
#6058
On March 25 2015 05:53 Damdred wrote:
Vivax you weren't playing as town. You didn't act town until you got pinged put. It's why I hate people who play differently when they wore blue it's frustrating.


I play like the town me especially when my jimmies get rustled, not based on my role. What did I do before you made your case? I openly claimed that I didn't want to bother with Slam's alignment on D1 (which you used against me in your awful case), I pinged LS as mafia, I called super mafia. Then suddenly, your case on me. LS, SL and Artanis, 3 votes each, vote me. And Artanis was scumreading you just moments before that happened.

Speaking of SL, I need Eden to tell me why he's town. So far I was rather chill about him but I figure he's still possible mafia, in stead of 1 of Slam/Palmar who are the guys I'm most unsure of.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 24 2015 21:09 GMT
#6071
Slam give me your soul or I will have to lynch you.
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