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On March 19 2015 09:34 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 09:32 Alakaslam wrote:On March 19 2015 09:28 Holyflare wrote:On March 19 2015 09:25 Alakaslam wrote:On March 19 2015 09:23 Holyflare wrote:On March 19 2015 09:22 Alakaslam wrote:On March 19 2015 09:16 Holyflare wrote:On March 19 2015 09:08 Alakaslam wrote:On March 19 2015 09:03 Holyflare wrote:On March 19 2015 09:01 Alakaslam wrote:
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Holyflare is scum. He knows this is not why I am scumreading him.
I actually wasn't sure earlier now I am. On March 19 2015 08:23 Alakaslam wrote:
So I point out that Holyflare is using wifom, based on my own actions in the past, and I am scum for it?
Scum need to find mislynches, and wifom is their tool. This is why I like wifom so much and will expose it every chance I get.
FITE me palmar, what, are you scum? liar Actually, you lie very descreetly here. You bolded my defense instead of my offense. I do not think you are scum because you used wifom. I do not think you are scum because you claimed confirmation early. I think you are scum because you voted on a very weak premise. This is why o hate RVS on smashboards No. Let's break this down instead of you being an obtuse lying asshole. I post once that you are mafia, highlighting the post that made you look mafia to me based on previous meta and meta that is generally used in finding mafia and townies that I use successfully in almost every game I ever play. I then post again highlighting a post of toad's that looked like a mafia post. THEN you vote me. Highlighting my post of my list of 2 people (you and toad) saying i'm not this bad. I actually misread your post about wifom because I thought you were applying that to me using wifom about yourself instead. So really you misread the entire situation and called me mafia because you thought I was voting you for wifom reasons. I clarify these reasons are because it is about your TONE of seriousness, your over defensiveness and seriousness again. You then update DO NOT UPDATE YOUR SCUM READ TO RECTIFY YOUR ERROR and instead continue on like I initially voted you because of some wifom which is not the case. You can clearly see my error in misreading the highlighted because my post explains that my case is based on your meta and disregarding that is based on seriousness, hence why I agree with artanis post. YOU DO NOT UPDATE ANYTHING EVER. WHy is this slam? Why are you trying to derail any attempt I had at pushing anything and instead fling shit in my direction when I was being the most productive asset here. You don't even comment on the toad thing which is actually very good indeed. Apparently it is still going. Like politics. Repeat that I only am doing what in fact you are doing and hope it sticks. Not going to fly; who voted first? This answers absolutely nothing. If you are trying something new and trying to be productive (what I assume your ramble at me was trying to be) then you should absolutely be up front with me. Why did you not update your first vote when you saw the actual reasons that I was voting for you? Because there was no need. You are mafia; you are using fallacy and wifom to an excess. Please outline this to absolutely everyone. Where is my wifom? I thought your post was too serious for slam meta which is a useful heuristic and even if it's not anymore it's a valid general heuristic at the start of the game. I vote you. You vote me for a misunderstanding, thinking I'm voting you for you talking about what you do as mafia. When I clarify it you try and shovel more shit on me instead of admitting flat out you were mistaken. You are still trying to do that. Why. Because I am NOT mistaken about the fallacies and attempts at deceit that followed, versus statements to that end. And the stubborn holding to your vote, which essentially spurred mine. You seem to conveniently leave that out of your projections of my reasoning. i'm just going to ignore you then because you are just stubborn and will continue to act like this the rest of the game
Or you are lynched. If you are town, let it be a little annoying gnat that bites any time you use fallacy as town, because it opens probability for Mislynch. There is always a logical reason to scumread scum, so stick with the logical whenever you can.
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##Vote: Trfel
I'll do it. I'll rise to the bait. He claims mafia theatrically. I THINK HE DOES IT AS MAFIA.
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On March 19 2015 09:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Vote: Trfel
I'll do it. I'll rise to the bait. He claims mafia theatrically. I THINK HE DOES IT AS MAFIA. Aw, shucks. He caught me. I thought I could get away with it.
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i actually agree with damdy that truffle may be mafia this game :/ but hardly for that post that was probably made before he even knew his role xP
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On March 19 2015 09:36 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 09:33 Holyflare wrote:On March 19 2015 09:31 Toadesstern wrote:On March 19 2015 09:02 Palmar wrote:
I actually kinda sorta maybe believe my reasons for voting Toad. Both of the things I said are true.
#1 "guyses" is not a word any viable human being utters in a normal sentence.
#2 He is half-assedly copying what was a much cooler play when he was town http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=guyses&t=c&f=-1&u=Toadesstern&gb=date&d=so we know the first thing is a lie from you because you didn't even bother to check a simple TL search for me, despite knowing that you did exactly the same bullshit the last game we played together in which you lynched me when we both were town. I'm starting to believe you're doing this on purpose and not just to start some discussion. The second thing is the same bullshit you did without explaining anything just "kill toad" you did last game as well and again, I'd think you'd not repeat that especially after last game and having ragequitted there. So why are you doing this Palmar? 24. Toadesstern As Queen Zeal, Was Lynched Cycle 5! as mafia gg did you even bother going through the list? You see I'm using it in my towngames as well: first game is this, second game is JoaT that has Toadesstern in the OP. There are posts in there from outside of mafiagames, yet you only mention one where I was mafia and Palmar didn't even bother to check it at all? Why not come to the conclusion that I'm just using that word a lot no matter what? Even in irc when not playing mafia...
no i didn't bother because it was far too much effort and I don't really care enough to click past one game (+ i still thought joat was ongoing for some reason)
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On March 19 2015 09:36 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 09:34 Holyflare wrote:On March 19 2015 09:32 Alakaslam wrote:On March 19 2015 09:28 Holyflare wrote:On March 19 2015 09:25 Alakaslam wrote:On March 19 2015 09:23 Holyflare wrote:On March 19 2015 09:22 Alakaslam wrote:On March 19 2015 09:16 Holyflare wrote:On March 19 2015 09:08 Alakaslam wrote:On March 19 2015 09:03 Holyflare wrote:
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liar Actually, you lie very descreetly here. You bolded my defense instead of my offense. I do not think you are scum because you used wifom. I do not think you are scum because you claimed confirmation early. I think you are scum because you voted on a very weak premise. This is why o hate RVS on smashboards No. Let's break this down instead of you being an obtuse lying asshole. I post once that you are mafia, highlighting the post that made you look mafia to me based on previous meta and meta that is generally used in finding mafia and townies that I use successfully in almost every game I ever play. I then post again highlighting a post of toad's that looked like a mafia post. THEN you vote me. Highlighting my post of my list of 2 people (you and toad) saying i'm not this bad. I actually misread your post about wifom because I thought you were applying that to me using wifom about yourself instead. So really you misread the entire situation and called me mafia because you thought I was voting you for wifom reasons. I clarify these reasons are because it is about your TONE of seriousness, your over defensiveness and seriousness again. You then update DO NOT UPDATE YOUR SCUM READ TO RECTIFY YOUR ERROR and instead continue on like I initially voted you because of some wifom which is not the case. You can clearly see my error in misreading the highlighted because my post explains that my case is based on your meta and disregarding that is based on seriousness, hence why I agree with artanis post. YOU DO NOT UPDATE ANYTHING EVER. WHy is this slam? Why are you trying to derail any attempt I had at pushing anything and instead fling shit in my direction when I was being the most productive asset here. You don't even comment on the toad thing which is actually very good indeed. Apparently it is still going. Like politics. Repeat that I only am doing what in fact you are doing and hope it sticks. Not going to fly; who voted first? This answers absolutely nothing. If you are trying something new and trying to be productive (what I assume your ramble at me was trying to be) then you should absolutely be up front with me. Why did you not update your first vote when you saw the actual reasons that I was voting for you? Because there was no need. You are mafia; you are using fallacy and wifom to an excess. Please outline this to absolutely everyone. Where is my wifom? I thought your post was too serious for slam meta which is a useful heuristic and even if it's not anymore it's a valid general heuristic at the start of the game. I vote you. You vote me for a misunderstanding, thinking I'm voting you for you talking about what you do as mafia. When I clarify it you try and shovel more shit on me instead of admitting flat out you were mistaken. You are still trying to do that. Why. Because I am NOT mistaken about the fallacies and attempts at deceit that followed, versus statements to that end. And the stubborn holding to your vote, which essentially spurred mine. You seem to conveniently leave that out of your projections of my reasoning. i'm just going to ignore you then because you are just stubborn and will continue to act like this the rest of the game Or you are lynched. If you are town, let it be a little annoying gnat that bites any time you use fallacy as town, because it opens probability for Mislynch. There is always a logical reason to scumread scum, so stick with the logical whenever you can.
please slam, when my mafia lynch % drops below 80%+ then i'll listen to you
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On March 19 2015 09:38 rsoultin wrote:
i actually agree with damdy that truffle may be mafia this game :/ but hardly for that post that was probably made before he even knew his role xP Nope, I made it after I knew my role. Not like the geript vote.
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On March 19 2015 09:39 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 09:38 rsoultin wrote:
i actually agree with damdy that truffle may be mafia this game :/ but hardly for that post that was probably made before he even knew his role xP Nope, I made it after I knew my role. Not like the geript vote.
i really don't want to read into this too far and abuse pm timings so i'm going to ignore it
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On March 19 2015 09:39 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 09:38 rsoultin wrote:
i actually agree with damdy that truffle may be mafia this game :/ but hardly for that post that was probably made before he even knew his role xP Nope, I made it after I knew my role. Not like the geript vote.
...truuuufffllleee ;o; please tell me you're not scum this game. you know how i like to bounce ideas off you
tell me the two reasons i'm thinking you're possibly scum (hint: one i've already alluded to and the other has to do with the post I just quoted)
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On March 19 2015 09:39 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 09:36 Toadesstern wrote:On March 19 2015 09:33 Holyflare wrote:On March 19 2015 09:31 Toadesstern wrote:On March 19 2015 09:02 Palmar wrote:
I actually kinda sorta maybe believe my reasons for voting Toad. Both of the things I said are true.
#1 "guyses" is not a word any viable human being utters in a normal sentence.
#2 He is half-assedly copying what was a much cooler play when he was town http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=guyses&t=c&f=-1&u=Toadesstern&gb=date&d=so we know the first thing is a lie from you because you didn't even bother to check a simple TL search for me, despite knowing that you did exactly the same bullshit the last game we played together in which you lynched me when we both were town. I'm starting to believe you're doing this on purpose and not just to start some discussion. The second thing is the same bullshit you did without explaining anything just "kill toad" you did last game as well and again, I'd think you'd not repeat that especially after last game and having ragequitted there. So why are you doing this Palmar? 24. Toadesstern As Queen Zeal, Was Lynched Cycle 5! as mafia gg did you even bother going through the list? You see I'm using it in my towngames as well: first game is this, second game is JoaT that has Toadesstern in the OP. There are posts in there from outside of mafiagames, yet you only mention one where I was mafia and Palmar didn't even bother to check it at all? Why not come to the conclusion that I'm just using that word a lot no matter what? Even in irc when not playing mafia... no i didn't bother because it was far too much effort and I don't really care enough to click past one game (+ i still thought joat was ongoing for some reason)
but this doesn't matter because what palmar said is true because it's exactly how I felt
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On March 19 2015 09:38 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 09:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Vote: Trfel
I'll do it. I'll rise to the bait. He claims mafia theatrically. I THINK HE DOES IT AS MAFIA. Aw, shucks. He caught me. I thought I could get away with it.
I actually think he might be right though. The fact that you're so jumpy about anyone referring to it in any serious manner whilst mostly abstaining from other discussions worries me.
Re: Slam willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now. If he's trying to change his meta I'm all for it.
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Artanis[XP], Why did you leave and why HF over me. Do you feel nothing I have said has any credence?
If HF is town, you are incredibly implicated by it.
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I thought people would comment for instance that I left arts is off my list.
Also I can read people differently than what my other reads suggest I should that is just inane palmar.
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On March 19 2015 09:41 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 09:39 Trfel wrote:On March 19 2015 09:38 rsoultin wrote:
i actually agree with damdy that truffle may be mafia this game :/ but hardly for that post that was probably made before he even knew his role xP Nope, I made it after I knew my role. Not like the geript vote. ...truuuufffllleee ;o; please tell me you're not scum this game. you know how i like to bounce ideas off you tell me the two reasons i'm thinking you're possibly scum (hint: one i've already alluded to and the other has to do with the post I just quoted) You probably think I'm scum because:
1. I'm ignoring the entire thread, and instead being useless and distracting the people who are playing the game properly. This is valid.
2. If you have a reason to scumread me other than that, I think it's terrible? Are you thinking of meta based on my opening in Student Mafia V?
For the record, I've only skimmed the game so far, I haven't read it in detail at all.
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On March 19 2015 09:43 Alakaslam wrote:
Artanis[XP], Why did you leave and why HF over me. Do you feel nothing I have said has any credence?
If HF is town, you are incredibly implicated by it.
I 'left' because you've been adamant about changing your meta. I remember you playing a game with me where you replaced in as scum and someone pointed out that your meta as scum is to be serious. Rather than oppose it like you did this game, you agreed and said that it does make it more likely you were scum. You were scum that game. The fact that you're responding very differently this game makes me pause.
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toad why are you so hyper focused on irrelevant crap like how many times you use the word guyses and how lazy palmar is being despite him being always lazy?
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well that leaves me with only SL to ask
SL
SL is just wifom to me. He needs to die a few times as town and come around to knowledge of the game before I can really do much with him.
I had a policy of lynching him. If no one is going for HF (really hard d1 with good reason, but I reiterate he is 80% Mafia in my eyes) I am not agianst SL lynch.
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why on earth do you want to lynch sl if you can't read him at all slam???
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On March 19 2015 09:43 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 09:41 rsoultin wrote:On March 19 2015 09:39 Trfel wrote:On March 19 2015 09:38 rsoultin wrote:
i actually agree with damdy that truffle may be mafia this game :/ but hardly for that post that was probably made before he even knew his role xP Nope, I made it after I knew my role. Not like the geript vote. ...truuuufffllleee ;o; please tell me you're not scum this game. you know how i like to bounce ideas off you tell me the two reasons i'm thinking you're possibly scum (hint: one i've already alluded to and the other has to do with the post I just quoted) You probably think I'm scum because: 1. I'm ignoring the entire thread, and instead being useless and distracting the people who are playing the game properly. This is valid. 2. If you have a reason to scumread me other than that, I think it's terrible? Are you thinking of meta based on my opening in Student Mafia V? For the record, I've only skimmed the game so far, I haven't read it in detail at all.
Pretty close. You're pursuing an opener that as town would be to generate discussion. Yet clearly the game is well underway, but instead of including your own input you just refer back to your opener.
The second isn't meta. In fact, I never once suggested that your opener being made before or after your role PM has a thing to do with your alignment o.0 So your response came back as overly defensive...in fact I specifically said that your opening post was not why I thought you might be scum.
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