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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
<< vivax << >> did you just make a toneread? -shot- okay sorry i'll be good now yeah, eden, you're right. i've been doing the same thing with more and more lynch wagons/scumreads to try to solidify where i want my vote and get them to give reads if they do get lynched and flip town lol...but yeah, outing to a scumread just cause they asked doesn't make much sense | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
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Vivax
22407 Posts
On March 23 2015 06:42 Alakaslam wrote: Hello Stop posting, you're dead. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
So he next then I see Then what? I will pop in now and then and try to keep the vote useful anyway | ||
Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
plus the way he pushed me was actually pretty townie imo...i didn't even want to strangle him xP | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On March 21 2015 05:27 Fecalfeast wrote: I'm going to side with the counter claimer on this one. I don't see mafia toad going for the 1 for 1 here On March 21 2015 05:57 Fecalfeast wrote: ls is mafia with toad, the plan is they are going to get vivax lynched and when he flips vig play the "oh no there must be 2 vigs" game I would like to know how you got from the first read thinking toad was town to the second, though, FF. Please explain? | ||
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Damdred
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Trfel
7015 Posts
Everyone be nice, please? Particularly looking at Toadesstern/Vivax here... Again, while it is possible that Toadesstern is mafia, it is unlikely. Everyone else has explained this better than I could... Artanis[Xp] could be mafia here, but I still find that unlikely due to his filter length. I shadowed Artanis[Xp] in Imperial Mafia. He revealed that he really doesn't like playing as scum, and he said that the next time he got scum, he would just not care and let himself get lynched (this happened in Student Mafia VI, fairly recently). I can't argue that Artanis[Xp] isn't possible of playing at this level as mafia, he certainly is. But I don't think that he would in this situation, especially given that before the game began he was talking about the frustrations of playing in large games and how he would only portions of the game. I looked at what Holyflare and VisceraEyes said about Artanis[Xp]. And I have a few problems with just blindly sheeping dead people. The first one is that new information changes reads. Second, Holyflare pushes suspicion at a wide range of people in his games, and I would be pretty surprised to see Holyflare not scumread Artanis[Xp] at some point. Furthermore, Artanis[Xp]'s statements in question don't seem good from a town perspective, but I don't see much motivation from them coming from a mafia perspective, either. The main reasons that Artanis[Xp] could be scum are inconsistency between words and actions, and not providing very many original reads. I'll check this later, but for now, I think that Artanis[Xp] is probably town. Raynpelikoneet and Onegu are going to have to do something impressive to make me not want to lynch them. Of course, the night results should shed a lot of light on this (and the claimfests in general). So I won't discuss this until tomorrow. I suppose I could see Artanis[Xp] and Toadesstern being mafia together. And I could see raynpelikoneet and Onegu being mafia together. At this point, those feel like the most likely possibilities to me (though there is an extremely high chance I am wildly wrong). | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
On March 23 2015 06:58 rsoultin wrote: I would like to know how you got from the first read thinking toad was town to the second, though, FF. Please explain? came up with #2 in my head while smoking. Seemed legit | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On March 23 2015 07:20 Eden1892 wrote: It's probably false.Trfel, what's your view on ray's claim? By this point, I've read the majority of this game. I mostly know what I'm talking about. I have read the first 40 pages of the game, and from a point shortly before the vigilante claims through here. Unfortunately, I missed stuff in between, which includes the reasons why raynpelikoneet was scumread, but I'm assuming those reasons were good. Vivax claimed vigilante, which puts raynpelikoneet as a high suspect for the lynch. I can see town!raynpelikoneet claiming here, if he really is tracker. That makes sense to me. However, I would also expect mafia!raynpelikoneet to claim here. Tracker is a good claim, because as a niche role, it's not likely to get counterclaimed. So, I'm still suspicious of him, because his claim does little to dissuade the initial reasons to scumread him (whatever they may be). Raynpelikoneet tracking his townread, Vivax, makes little sense to me. However, I'm not sure that it says that much about raynpelikoneet's alignment (perhaps someone else can explain this eventually). However, if raynpelikoneet is fake-claiming, tracking Vivax makes a lot of sense, as Vivax was roleblocked, so raynpelikoneet knew he wasn't going anywhere. And Onegu (who I scumread for being roleblocked by rsoultin, while mafia is missing a KP) claimed mason with raynpelikoneet. Which makes me a little more suspicious of raynpelikoneet. Raynpelikoneet's play since his claim has been less than impressive. He's pushed scum on a ton of different people, for very illogical reasons, generally just attacking people who disagree with him. That doesn't help his case, but apparently he's like that when he's mad, so I suppose that can probably come from town!raynpelikoneet as well. | ||
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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
On March 23 2015 06:59 Damdred wrote: Ff what do you think about the Rayn stuff I think I'd like rayn to come back and explain himself. Unless he has and I haven't seen it | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 23 2015 07:30 Fecalfeast wrote: I think I'd like rayn to come back and explain himself. Unless he has and I haven't seen it If he has I haven't seen it either | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 23 2015 07:40 Damdred wrote: Why can't people give opinions or conclussions before he comes back instead of waiting which btw two cop type roles in a game? ? I'm pretty much treating ray's immediate compliance with rsoultin's demand for a hardclaim as ray claiming scum until he explains since there's literally no reason a town tracker responds to one of his main suspect's demands for a hardclaim with immediate compliance | ||
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