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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 22 2015 21:33 GMT
#5021
>>

<<

vivax

<<

>>

did you just make a toneread?

-shot-

okay sorry i'll be good now

yeah, eden, you're right. i've been doing the same thing with more and more lynch wagons/scumreads to try to solidify where i want my vote and get them to give reads if they do get lynched and flip town lol...but yeah, outing to a scumread just cause they asked doesn't make much sense
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 22 2015 21:42 GMT
#5022
Hello
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22151 Posts
March 22 2015 21:43 GMT
#5023
On March 23 2015 06:42 Alakaslam wrote:
Hello


Stop posting, you're dead.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 21:45 GMT
#5024
Lol Vivax pls
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 22 2015 21:45 GMT
#5025
I just filtered the host and don't see it Sson.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 22 2015 21:46 GMT
#5026
That's pretty good stuff on rayn

So he next then I see

Then what? I will pop in now and then and try to keep the vote useful anyway
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 22 2015 21:46 GMT
#5027
vivax if you're pushing me on inconsistent reads you're gonna have a bad time
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 22 2015 21:52 GMT
#5028
Anyone can be inconsistent. It's about how one is inconsistent that can be telling.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 22 2015 21:54 GMT
#5029
i've seen hard busses before, but i don't buy it with ff

plus the way he pushed me was actually pretty townie imo...i didn't even want to strangle him xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 21:57 GMT
#5030
FF is town. Trust in The Rock
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 22 2015 21:58 GMT
#5031
On March 21 2015 05:27 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm going to side with the counter claimer on this one. I don't see mafia toad going for the 1 for 1 here


On March 21 2015 05:57 Fecalfeast wrote:
ls is mafia with toad, the plan is they are going to get vivax lynched and when he flips vig play the "oh no there must be 2 vigs" game


I would like to know how you got from the first read thinking toad was town to the second, though, FF. Please explain?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 22 2015 21:59 GMT
#5032
Ff what do you think about the Rayn stuff
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 22 2015 22:09 GMT
#5033
The most important thing...

Everyone be nice, please? Particularly looking at Toadesstern/Vivax here...

Again, while it is possible that Toadesstern is mafia, it is unlikely. Everyone else has explained this better than I could...

Artanis[Xp] could be mafia here, but I still find that unlikely due to his filter length. I shadowed Artanis[Xp] in Imperial Mafia. He revealed that he really doesn't like playing as scum, and he said that the next time he got scum, he would just not care and let himself get lynched (this happened in Student Mafia VI, fairly recently). I can't argue that Artanis[Xp] isn't possible of playing at this level as mafia, he certainly is. But I don't think that he would in this situation, especially given that before the game began he was talking about the frustrations of playing in large games and how he would only portions of the game.

I looked at what Holyflare and VisceraEyes said about Artanis[Xp]. And I have a few problems with just blindly sheeping dead people. The first one is that new information changes reads. Second, Holyflare pushes suspicion at a wide range of people in his games, and I would be pretty surprised to see Holyflare not scumread Artanis[Xp] at some point. Furthermore, Artanis[Xp]'s statements in question don't seem good from a town perspective, but I don't see much motivation from them coming from a mafia perspective, either. The main reasons that Artanis[Xp] could be scum are inconsistency between words and actions, and not providing very many original reads. I'll check this later, but for now, I think that Artanis[Xp] is probably town.

Raynpelikoneet and Onegu are going to have to do something impressive to make me not want to lynch them. Of course, the night results should shed a lot of light on this (and the claimfests in general). So I won't discuss this until tomorrow.

I suppose I could see Artanis[Xp] and Toadesstern being mafia together. And I could see raynpelikoneet and Onegu being mafia together. At this point, those feel like the most likely possibilities to me (though there is an extremely high chance I am wildly wrong).
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 22:20 GMT
#5034
Trfel, what's your view on ray's claim?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 22 2015 22:28 GMT
#5035
On March 23 2015 06:58 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 05:27 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm going to side with the counter claimer on this one. I don't see mafia toad going for the 1 for 1 here


Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 05:57 Fecalfeast wrote:
ls is mafia with toad, the plan is they are going to get vivax lynched and when he flips vig play the "oh no there must be 2 vigs" game


I would like to know how you got from the first read thinking toad was town to the second, though, FF. Please explain?

came up with #2 in my head while smoking. Seemed legit
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 22 2015 22:29 GMT
#5036
On March 23 2015 07:20 Eden1892 wrote:
Trfel, what's your view on ray's claim?
It's probably false.

By this point, I've read the majority of this game. I mostly know what I'm talking about. I have read the first 40 pages of the game, and from a point shortly before the vigilante claims through here. Unfortunately, I missed stuff in between, which includes the reasons why raynpelikoneet was scumread, but I'm assuming those reasons were good.

Vivax claimed vigilante, which puts raynpelikoneet as a high suspect for the lynch. I can see town!raynpelikoneet claiming here, if he really is tracker. That makes sense to me. However, I would also expect mafia!raynpelikoneet to claim here. Tracker is a good claim, because as a niche role, it's not likely to get counterclaimed. So, I'm still suspicious of him, because his claim does little to dissuade the initial reasons to scumread him (whatever they may be).

Raynpelikoneet tracking his townread, Vivax, makes little sense to me. However, I'm not sure that it says that much about raynpelikoneet's alignment (perhaps someone else can explain this eventually). However, if raynpelikoneet is fake-claiming, tracking Vivax makes a lot of sense, as Vivax was roleblocked, so raynpelikoneet knew he wasn't going anywhere.

And Onegu (who I scumread for being roleblocked by rsoultin, while mafia is missing a KP) claimed mason with raynpelikoneet. Which makes me a little more suspicious of raynpelikoneet.

Raynpelikoneet's play since his claim has been less than impressive. He's pushed scum on a ton of different people, for very illogical reasons, generally just attacking people who disagree with him. That doesn't help his case, but apparently he's like that when he's mad, so I suppose that can probably come from town!raynpelikoneet as well.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 22 2015 22:30 GMT
#5037
On March 23 2015 06:59 Damdred wrote:
Ff what do you think about the Rayn stuff

I think I'd like rayn to come back and explain himself. Unless he has and I haven't seen it
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 22:35 GMT
#5038
On March 23 2015 07:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 06:59 Damdred wrote:
Ff what do you think about the Rayn stuff

I think I'd like rayn to come back and explain himself. Unless he has and I haven't seen it

If he has I haven't seen it either
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 22 2015 22:40 GMT
#5039
Why can't people give opinions or conclussions before he comes back instead of waiting which btw two cop type roles in a game?
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 22:42 GMT
#5040
On March 23 2015 07:40 Damdred wrote:
Why can't people give opinions or conclussions before he comes back instead of waiting which btw two cop type roles in a game?

?
I'm pretty much treating ray's immediate compliance with rsoultin's demand for a hardclaim as ray claiming scum until he explains since there's literally no reason a town tracker responds to one of his main suspect's demands for a hardclaim with immediate compliance
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
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