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On March 19 2015 21:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Leaning Town
Trfel - Questioned # of mafia after Superbia already did and got a nasty response from it. Doesn't seem to be afraid of any backlash, posting carefree.
LightningStrike - See above. Would expect him to have more trouble posting as mafia.
Fecalfeast - Brought up point against SL, didn't try to bury him
ExO_ - Made a stupid question, got called out on it by a lot of people, still responded and came to a reasonable for him conclusion.
Cautiously leaning town
rsoultin - Rayn and HF said so, haven't really looked into her further.
Alakaslam - Genuinely seems to want to change his meta in contrast to last time he rolled scum where he just admitted it was his scum meta.
Holyflare & Damdred - Similar thoughts a few times throughout the game, such as with ExO_ and Alakaslam.
Null
Everyone not on other lists.
Leaning Mafia
Toadesstern - Went after Palmar, then lots of fluff, then went after SL, then suddenly went back to Palmar without Palmar posting in between. Hasn't been as productive as Town!Toad normally is.
##Vote Toadesstern
Art are you around? Can you explain your read on slam here im not really understanding it.
You think he is trying to change his meta from when he rolled scum.But you are reading him as town? I feel like i should understand this but i don't.
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Superbia tell me about FF
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On March 20 2015 13:54 LightningStrike wrote:If you read my filter I had explained it already but since you didn't read it Rayn is likely mafia despite the anger his talk with Palmar seems to be pointless and he didn't seem to get much out of it from what I had read from the thread. Outside of him I still wobbling trying to figure out which of my nulls are Mafia.
What did palmar get out of it that compared to rayn for you not to scumread him?
Also I understand that you are townreading Exo because of meta comparing to his other game. What questions of his have you liked that makes you draw comparisons with another game.
Also have any of your nulls changed at all from your last reads post. Even if you are reading some of them town now i'd like to hear it thankyou.
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On March 20 2015 14:04 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 14:01 Breshke wrote:On March 20 2015 13:54 LightningStrike wrote:On March 20 2015 13:44 Breshke wrote:
LS who is mafia? If you read my filter I had explained it already but since you didn't read it Rayn is likely mafia despite the anger his talk with Palmar seems to be pointless and he didn't seem to get much out of it from what I had read from the thread. Outside of him I still wobbling trying to figure out which of my nulls are Mafia. What did palmar get out of it that compared to rayn for you not to scumread him? Also I understand that you are townreading Exo because of meta comparing to his other game. What questions of his have you liked that makes you draw comparisons with another game. Also have any of your nulls changed at all from your last reads post. Even if you are reading some of them town now i'd like to hear it thankyou. Palmar had basically called Rayn Mafia for it. I reading FF town for him casing me which I don't think he would do as MAfia but he's wrong on my alignment again lol....
Why don't you think ff wouldn't do it as mafia?
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On March 20 2015 14:24 sicklucker wrote:
Breske why are you voting me after reading me right your pretty terrible have you learned nothing... Im playing dota right now but im not letting you gobbers lose another game for town by killing me
Am i terrible or mafia?
Also I still don't really understand how to read LS. I agree with rso? that his list posts thought dump kinda thing is a town tell for him so wouldn't lynch him today but I wouldn't call him town
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On March 21 2015 06:21 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 06:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 21 2015 06:19 Superbia wrote:On March 21 2015 06:16 Fecalfeast wrote:
We should lynch LS I think I'm a 100% on board. I would be okay with Breshke or SL as well. Bad, bad feelings. Why Breshke? I feel like he would've done more and he should've been around. He flipped on SL right after the SL wagon crashed (I feel) and has generally done fuck all. I feel like he's around right now lurking.
Hi i just woke up
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I would not be intrested in lynching Vig claims since that can easily resolve itself in the night
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On March 21 2015 06:25 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 06:24 Breshke wrote:
I would not be intrested in lynching Vig claims since that can easily resolve itself in the night we don't want it to resolve in the night... why would you want a possible mafiaVig to shoot
So both of you can't be roleblocked by mafia. If one of you doesn't shoot the other one then they die in the night.. If one of you shoots the other and they flip town big then they die. I think it is very unlikely we have two town vigi's.
With my plan the town vig gets a chance to shoot still. What will probs happen is that the town vig will get RB (they might not even have one) and the mafia vig wont shoot so that could be even better since the town vig willl still be alive and soak up a RB
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On March 21 2015 06:28 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 06:27 Holyflare wrote:
Just give it a night, we force the vigs to shoot our own targets or they claim mafia. If they don't it's free mafia. I'll shoot who the hell I please, I'm not your puppet.
are you trying to act tough or are you serious here?
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On March 21 2015 06:31 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 06:30 Breshke wrote:On March 21 2015 06:28 Vivax wrote:On March 21 2015 06:27 Holyflare wrote:
Just give it a night, we force the vigs to shoot our own targets or they claim mafia. If they don't it's free mafia. I'll shoot who the hell I please, I'm not your puppet. are you trying to act tough or are you serious here? I'm serious. I'm selfish, and I shoot out of rage.
Why? I'm still groggy but isn't the ebst play here to just shoot your CC. If you are the real vig do you not most likely know they are mafia?
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On March 21 2015 06:32 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 06:28 Breshke wrote:On March 21 2015 06:25 Toadesstern wrote:On March 21 2015 06:24 Breshke wrote:
I would not be intrested in lynching Vig claims since that can easily resolve itself in the night we don't want it to resolve in the night... why would you want a possible mafiaVig to shoot So both of you can't be roleblocked by mafia. If one of you doesn't shoot the other one then they die in the night.. If one of you shoots the other and they flip town big then they die. I think it is very unlikely we have two town vigi's. With my plan the town vig gets a chance to shoot still. What will probs happen is that the town vig will get RB (they might not even have one) and the mafia vig wont shoot so that could be even better since the town vig willl still be alive and soak up a RB except that Mafia still gets +1 KP that way? Vivax could claim d2 "I shot Toad but he's still alive, so I got roleblocked by mafia" while they use Vivax vigshot + 1KP to doublestack someone as well as another KP for someone else making it look like 2 kills happened, I got roleblocked by mafia and there's no way for anyone to figure out what happened besides me. Same shit different day
That isn't plus one kp for mafia that is 2 kp the ssame amount they would have normally. I see the world you are talking about though mafia shoot 2 people and mafia vig shoots another town and then both mafia vigi's still claim RB. So yeah this is true we probably should choose today as if we lynch right we have the most to gain from it.
That being said if we have a tracker couldn't he just track one of the vigi's? (i guess if he is claimed it isn't much use)
Also if anyone could direct me to the pages in which the 2 vigi claims happen that would be really useful
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On March 21 2015 06:34 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 06:33 Breshke wrote:On March 21 2015 06:31 Vivax wrote:On March 21 2015 06:30 Breshke wrote:On March 21 2015 06:28 Vivax wrote:On March 21 2015 06:27 Holyflare wrote:
Just give it a night, we force the vigs to shoot our own targets or they claim mafia. If they don't it's free mafia. I'll shoot who the hell I please, I'm not your puppet. are you trying to act tough or are you serious here? I'm serious. I'm selfish, and I shoot out of rage. Why? I'm still groggy but isn't the ebst play here to just shoot your CC. If you are the real vig do you not most likely know they are mafia? No I'll just shoot whoever pissed me off the most during the day so I can argue in peace without people derailing the thread. See my rage list I posted much earlier, those are the people I considered shooting.
But if you shot your cc you wouldn't have anyone to argue against???
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On March 21 2015 06:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 06:37 Breshke wrote:On March 21 2015 06:32 Toadesstern wrote:On March 21 2015 06:28 Breshke wrote:On March 21 2015 06:25 Toadesstern wrote:On March 21 2015 06:24 Breshke wrote:
I would not be intrested in lynching Vig claims since that can easily resolve itself in the night we don't want it to resolve in the night... why would you want a possible mafiaVig to shoot So both of you can't be roleblocked by mafia. If one of you doesn't shoot the other one then they die in the night.. If one of you shoots the other and they flip town big then they die. I think it is very unlikely we have two town vigi's. With my plan the town vig gets a chance to shoot still. What will probs happen is that the town vig will get RB (they might not even have one) and the mafia vig wont shoot so that could be even better since the town vig willl still be alive and soak up a RB except that Mafia still gets +1 KP that way? Vivax could claim d2 "I shot Toad but he's still alive, so I got roleblocked by mafia" while they use Vivax vigshot + 1KP to doublestack someone as well as another KP for someone else making it look like 2 kills happened, I got roleblocked by mafia and there's no way for anyone to figure out what happened besides me. Same shit different day That isn't plus one kp for mafia that is 2 kp the ssame amount they would have normally. I see the world you are talking about though mafia shoot 2 people and mafia vig shoots another town and then both mafia vigi's still claim RB. So yeah this is true we probably should choose today as if we lynch right we have the most to gain from it. That being said if we have a tracker couldn't he just track one of the vigi's? (i guess if he is claimed it isn't much use) Also if anyone could direct me to the pages in which the 2 vigi claims happen that would be really useful YEAH THEN THE VIGI IS NOT ROLEBLOCKED! USE YOUR BRAIN! IF I AM ROLEBLOCKED THEN VIVIAX ISN'T?!?!?!?!?!? Fuck why are people this obtuse.........................
But then you just get killed? Towns only protective role also roleblocks
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On March 21 2015 06:51 Superbia wrote:
Holy shit that wagon on Vivax looks atrocious. I hate like almost all the people on it.
i agree with this. It has most of the people im scum reading but it also has some of my top towns.
The thing is SL's vote doesn't really count because he said he was just going to park it there and he would 100% do that to a scum mate a town or anyone
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I think masons should probably hardclaim now because its just going to be a headfuck later. I also feel like onegu was never being serious
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On March 21 2015 07:04 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 07:02 Superbia wrote:On March 21 2015 07:00 Palmar wrote:On March 21 2015 06:58 Superbia wrote:
Like you're one of the only people I don't dislike on that wagon atm Palmar.
I like HF's plan of letting Vigi(s) do whatever the fuck they want tonight. Maybe we confirm one, maybe we force mafia's hand in roleblocking a Vigi over a RB. if you think the wagon is bad, you should be voting the other. we're lynching one of them or the other tonight. I don't really care which one. It makes more sense that Vivax is the mafia, but Toad made a bad play if he's town so I'm fine with lynching him too. It's still possible that they're both town. I like HF's play. Let Vigi(s) do what they want, if mafia RB a vigi the tracker gets free reign, otherwise vigi(s) can confirm themselves (probably). Uh, what? First of all, I'm not convinced that raynpelikoneet's claim is truthful. Second, let's imagine it is truthful, and the vigilantes are both still alive, and raynpelikoneet wasn't roleblocked. I don't see how this helps us at all? Please explain.
tracker tracks a vigi. They can see if they shoot someone or if they are roleblocked etc. This plan fails though if the mafia who CC'd is not the mafia vig
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I feel like there is holes in the plan but i'm willing to leave both alive and just lynch SL.
I wish more people had piled on him because I think it is easiest to tell his alignment when he is trying to get out of a lynch. Still with his random no reason townreads especially the one on me makes me think he is scummier than i normally do.
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I'd be willing to lynch LS aswell simply because i don't feel like he is trying to work out these claims
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On March 21 2015 07:22 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 07:20 Breshke wrote:
I'd be willing to lynch LS aswell simply because i don't feel like he is trying to work out these claims
I alreadsy made my conclusion that Vivax is scum and Toad is Town on those claims and Rayn is the unCCed Tracker and we got a pair of masons. Also I going to be gone for EoD as I picking up my dad at the airport but when I come back I will check the results of the lynch and figure out where to go from there on my reads!
That's the thing. You seem so sure of your position yet you arn't trying to convince people that disagree with youthat you are right.
I'm not even against a vivax lynch if I had to choose between the two without letting who is on the wagons give me second doubts it would be vivax. I just think the better play is to leave them both alive and lynch like SL
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