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On March 21 2015 08:44 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 08:38 ExO_ wrote:On March 21 2015 08:32 rsoultin wrote:On March 21 2015 08:30 ExO_ wrote:
RB should block vivax. toad can shoot him then, and if by some inconceivable miracle he flips town we kill toad. pssst are you talking to a possible scum RB here? o.0 No? why don't you go lynch some random BM instead of solving this chaotic mess? Was such a horrible idea. And now HF wants both to live, causing more chaos. playing Russian roulette would be better than listening to him ... how am i supposed to solve this chaotic mess, ExO_? like i understand. i get it. i waffled, too. problem is vivax wasn't solidly scum for me. more to the point, these open set-ups have had multiple roles in the past. they've had 1 mason in the past. it's an open set-up regardless, that wasn't my point...there is no town RB role
oh and the last one that was actually a response to you ^^ and yet you somehow missed
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On March 21 2015 10:22 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 10:19 rsoultin wrote:On March 21 2015 10:18 ExO_ wrote:On March 21 2015 10:14 rsoultin wrote:On March 21 2015 10:10 ExO_ wrote:On March 21 2015 09:42 rsoultin wrote:
ExO_
accept that they weren't lynched
and move on
seriously, the complaining isn't getting anyone anywhere, and i'm fed up now
i like hf/ve's suggestion as well, honestly, settling on two shots for toad and vivax ^^ I could care less how fed up you are. Why did you switch off vivax to BM? I cant see why you switched. Same question to Palmar really but im not expecting anything from mr.yolo if you're not seeing anything you're not looking ^^ and i can't be assed to deal with your idiocy right now 1. it's not important 2. the reason is very obvious in my filter 3. you definitely haven't read my filter with how you've been talking about me all game 4. focus on what's relevant here, please you switching vote from vivax to BM is EXTREMELY relevant to the game. What could be more relevant right now? Reading through filters is hard on my phone, which is why Im asking you to tell me right here right now why the switch from Vivax to BM. Can you do that for me, or are you dead set on brushing past day 1 as quickly as you can? i'm not being responsive to you because you're phrasing everything like you've already decided i'm scum and frankly i don't give a shit if that's the case ^^ if you want a discussion, act like it Im asking you to give me your reasoning. You outright refuse to do so. Im lhrasing like your scum because I think you're scum. You don't seem to want to convince me otherwise
-yawn-
give me your reasons for your scumread or get out of my face. i'm not making a "town case" on myself based on an unarticulated scumread
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On March 21 2015 10:29 ExO_ wrote:
I did miss that reply to me. But what I don't understand is the complaint about the chaotic mess. You choose this mess (intentionally perhaps?) when you could've choosen to eliminate the chaos a little bit.
The only reasons I see for switching are sheeping HF and you think vivax might be town ( though I dont know why you think that). Is that all?
lol is that not enough?
is thinking that both toad and vivax may be town not enough?
my last scum game there were two jailkeepers (what superbia was referring to)
my second town game there was exactly one mason
open set-ups allow for things like this, and night actions usually help resolve some of the claiming issues
you were the one talking about the chaotic mess -_- so don't you dare bring semantics into this when i was only using your wording
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my opinion on vivax didn't change much, but i think he may be town regarding the claim for two reasons
the claim came late in the day but early enough for everyone to see it, react, and find another good lynch without running around like chickens with their heads cut off (the CC caused that last part)
and secondly, the way he started treating toad toward the end and getting frustrated when his reads posts were getting buried. making reads as you're being lynched could be wifom...i've seen it before from mafia but most often from town...however the frustration itself seemed real and he wasn't bothering with screaming to get toad lynched in return
why are you scumreading vivax? purely setup speculation or is there anything else?
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On March 21 2015 10:38 Damdred wrote:
Tommorow when I start analyzing these wagons how frustrated will I be RS?
lol i don't know >< it's certainly not the cleanest lynch damdy so i'm not sure how you'll manage in-depth voting analysis, but i'll try some of my own ^^
i find it especially hard to make heads or tails of voting around claims
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On March 21 2015 10:44 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 10:40 rsoultin wrote:
my opinion on vivax didn't change much, but i think he may be town regarding the claim for two reasons
the claim came late in the day but early enough for everyone to see it, react, and find another good lynch without running around like chickens with their heads cut off (the CC caused that last part)
and secondly, the way he started treating toad toward the end and getting frustrated when his reads posts were getting buried. making reads as you're being lynched could be wifom...i've seen it before from mafia but most often from town...however the frustration itself seemed real and he wasn't bothering with screaming to get toad lynched in return
why are you scumreading vivax? purely setup speculation or is there anything else? Was that aimed at me? If so it was because of Toad's counterclaimed so quickly to Vivax's Vig claim which I don't think Mafia would ever take a trade of 1 for 1 at all in any scenario because that trade favors Town due to the fact that there is less Mafia members than Town.
no that was at ExO_, please answer viva's questions, and then tell me why there can't possibly be two town vigis while you're at it
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oh lol another for the list of people i keep forgetting about...
the wonderfully irritating onegu ><
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On March 21 2015 10:49 LightningStrike wrote:
Also the reason I don't think we would have 2 Town Vigs because that would stupid to have 2 Town Vigs esp with a Tracker claim from Rayn although he looks bad at the End of Day voting for his switch to BM seemed to have little reason. Also we had 2 masons claimed in Onegu and Holyflare so if we really had 5 blues it would to over powered I think for Town even in such a large game (We got 18 people signed up for this game).
that jives...
my thing is i'm more skeptical about the other claims than i am about the vig claims lol >< funny as that sounds
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dude ls most people don't claim VT that's not a normal thing >< not the way you and onegu do anyway
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you already said vigilantes are swingy - can hit scum or town
mafia has at least 2 kp the first two nights assuming no mafia vig
according to the OP
i don't think it's as huge a stretch as people are saying
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eh i'm not sure how much i believe onegu and rayn anyway
though i have to admit that maybe rayn does play differently as a blue...i don't see why good players would play differently as blues since that's kind of a dead giveaway, but i suppose it's possible
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On March 21 2015 11:57 sicklucker wrote:
Ask your brother im a really great lynch for you!
lol xP
my brother and i don't make reads the same way
when you're caught up, thoughts, please ^^
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rayn was my push actually -shrugs-
then it went wild 
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people keep saying onegu and hf but i'm not 100% where that comes from?
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meh hf isn't playing like he was in carol, ls, sorry
ExO_ is way too salty. apart from attacking me (which lol yeah usually riles me i'll admit, but you don't see me holding it against viva even though he threatened to shoot me if he was still alive ) all he's doing is sitting there complaining, which is not constructive at all
i don't really think trfel is scum, vivax
i know this isn't a popular opinion with you at all, but i can completely understand players wanting to resolve your alignment just so it is resolved, regardless of what that alignment actually is lol
i just don't agree when both vigis start looking townie that it's the best play. drunken wagon orchestrated by hf or not xP if you're both town, better to keep you -shrugs-
regardless, i'm done explaining my thought process, and i might start whipping eden for continuously insisting i'm town >> sweet of you eden but i don't need the cheerleader
meh
okay, if anyone wants to talk to me about reads, please do, but i'm actually gonna do some solo work without you hoodlums for a bit xP
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oh, i lied
slam is bugging me...does his reaction make sense to anyone? cause it doesn't to me -_-
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bm isn't like his best buddy from another mother or something that i don't know about? lol
cause it crossed my mind he could just be looking forward to playing with the guy after a long hiatus, but if so it doesn't seem like he was enjoying him in the thread or anything
i keep reminding myself slam already said he may be pretty inactive this game, but i'm at the point where his reaction to you hf is not enough to keep him as a townread
this get townread for something vaguely townie he did early day 1 then fall off thing reminds me of joat xP
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dude viva i get that it seems contradictory
a lot of my read on truffle is completely tone...we've played a lot of games together. i can of course be wrong about him, but he is like the epitome of a cautious player, and the cautious, safe approach to what happened yesterday is to simply get rid of the question mark and move on
i'll reread his thought progression though while doing my analysis. not married to a particular alignment for anyone right now...but generally my tonereads are better than my other reads lol ><
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holyflare lol how angry would you be if i tried to lynch onegu tomorrow? xP
>< his not doing a damn thing is annoying the shit out of me
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