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On March 22 2015 08:33 Trfel wrote:
Ok, I can't think of anything I can gain from withholding my information
I tracked someone who visited Holyflare.
By my look at the role list in the OP, this person must either be scum or alignment cop.
And for obvious reasons, I don't want to out the alignment cop.
Would you accept it if someone alignment checked Holyflare, or would claiming such be considered claiming scum?
Nah, that person is basically confirmed scum presuming the nk isn't factional.
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Don't tell us who it is until the second half of the day though because otherwise the day turns into an autolynch and everyone goes afk.
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On March 22 2015 08:35 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2015 08:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Don't tell us who it is until the second half of the day though because otherwise the day turns into an autolynch and everyone goes afk. But mafia already knows who it is?
Shouldn't that make the rest of the day quite interesting? Mafia tiptoe around the person that's going to get autolynched whereas town will discuss freely.
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Actually I think you should make the claim as late as possible because this extra information will make it really hard for mafia to appear natural.
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On March 22 2015 08:38 Damdred wrote:
I would claim mafia already know they are caught
Dude, no, this is terrible. Keeping it a secret will be so beneficial because it'll be so hard for mafia to act natural to that person.
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On March 22 2015 08:40 Breshke wrote:
Also it isnt likely because im fairly sure trefel is town but it is POSSIBLE he is scum and used the orb and is just making shit up.
He's basically claiming a red check unless the person we lynch flips as an alignment cop. It'd be a 1 for 1 trade and that's terrible for mafia.
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I just read up that mafia have 2kp on N1/N2 and that people have to carry the KP. Three possibilities:
1) Toad isn't actually vigi and scum just shot hf/ve (plausible but unlikely)
2) Scum doublestacked HF (plausible but probably even less likely since jking stops all kp rather than 1)
3) A Town JK JKed either the target of a mafia hit or a mafia that was delivering KP. (Most likely I feel)
If we have a Town JK that'd make Rayn's claim pretty sketch since we'd have a shitton of blues.
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Oh right, we have a vet too. That's another option.
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No, Trfel withholding the information is great and we need to stop discussing it and actually get on with our reads because the interactions we make now are going to be all the more interesting then.
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On March 22 2015 08:56 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2015 08:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
No, Trfel withholding the information is great and we need to stop discussing it and actually get on with our reads because the interactions we make now are going to be all the more interesting then. "Get on with our reads". After you. I'm not forming my reads on incomplete information. I'm also interested into Toad's argument why I shouldn't have shot Alakaslam cause deadline and shit. Like he's supposed to know when I sent in the shot, and what my decision was. This tunnel is getting too tunnelly for my taste.
If you wanted complete information you should've rolled scum. The idea is obvious and it's certainly town favoured to ignore his claim for now and see how everyone ended up acting with the guy town didn't know was scum but mafia did, plus mafia knowing that that person is going to die which town doesn't know yet.
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Aww, okay.
##Vote LightningStrike
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I'm pretty sure that makes Onegu confirmed town. Seems likely mafia tried to take out both Onegu/HF to get rid of two in their eyes confirmed towns because of the mason claims. More likely than Onegu fakeclaiming mason in any case.
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On March 22 2015 09:01 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2015 08:53 rsoultin wrote:
nah, honestly i think it's best that i just claim right here tbh, cause it helps shed light on the night actions
i JKd Onegu, and the breadcrumb was so damn obvious they'll prob shoot me tonight anyway lol Don't believe. Like why wouldn't you protect HF if you thought we were masons as he was the much better shot...
Oh right, this is actually a good point.
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Meh rso was already confirmed town to me and a mafia ploy that involves fake JKing Onegu is extremely unlikely.
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I don't care if it makes me look extremely bad, I should be confirmed town by now for effort and filter length alone.
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Also if you think all mafia do exactly the same and line up on the same boat I don't know exactly what to say.
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On March 22 2015 09:09 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2015 09:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also if you think all mafia do exactly the same and line up on the same boat I don't know exactly what to say. Well in the context in which it happened it made a lot of sense, since all of you guys who ended up piling on me had exactly three votes per person before you fueled the wagon on me.
Yes, in that specific scenario it is PLAUSIBLE. That doesn't say actually say anything about my alignment other than that there would be scum reasoning for me in that spot in a vacuum.
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Also holy shit I'm an arbiter. I need to see what the other race icons are to see if any are cooler.
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Nah, arbiter is coolest compared to sv/defiler. If I could get an ultralisk I'd pick that tho.
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On March 22 2015 09:15 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2015 09:09 rsoultin wrote:
lolol
viva ^^
-rolls around the thread-
if rayn is scum do i get awesome credit? i should get awesome credit (he's probably scum you know) ^^ if rayn is scum on top of that, that means the d1 votes are all useless because mafia voted whatever they wanted to vote, implying all of BM. Vivax and me are town. I had some 4 or 5 votes at some point as well, including Rayn's vote and he pushed me really hard.... so what's that if we now know there was mafia on Vivax as well as most likely on BM because he already flipped town? We'd probably have to scrap everything at this point and assume we went wrong bigtime somewhere early during d1 with a lot of reads if mafia tried to push all three of Vivax, BM and me.
Or town pushed town all day and mafia just joined random wagons.
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