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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
March 21 2015 01:23 GMT
#3361
Exo, you think me and rsoultin are scum together?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2015 01:23 GMT
#3362
On March 21 2015 06:29 rsoultin wrote:
headache headache headache -_-

i don't see toad as scum and i don't know about vivax

i'm fine with another wagon, but not lightningstrike

you guys are killing me here lol ><


On March 21 2015 07:34 rsoultin wrote:
well, honestly, i don't think it's quite as simple as hf or bresh paint it

but it really just comes down to

not at all sure on vivax plus vig claim

vs

not at all sure on bm lol >< so whatever...kinda just going with my prior hf townread here and the minimal losses strategy...

like i wouldn't have been talking to vivax in the first place trying to get him to respond to me if i didn't think there was a possibility he could be town. he's not still trying to get toad lynched...i dunnae


On March 21 2015 07:50 rsoultin wrote:
nah i don't think truffle is scum lol...kinda surprised you do vivax actually cause he's being very truffle-like

the problem is we don't know the scum setup or what else this town may have, and it's possible, however unlikely, that we may actually no more day 2...if i was flatout scumreading vivax then sure lynch him to hell but i dunnae...i think he could be town ><



there, filter-dove myself for you -_- less for you and more for anyone else interested but for some reason unable to read a filter on a phone, which amazingly i've managed to accomplish with my low IQ xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2015 01:24 GMT
#3363
On March 21 2015 08:44 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 08:38 ExO_ wrote:
On March 21 2015 08:32 rsoultin wrote:
On March 21 2015 08:30 ExO_ wrote:
RB should block vivax. toad can shoot him then, and if by some inconceivable miracle he flips town we kill toad.


pssst are you talking to a possible scum RB here? o.0


No? why don't you go lynch some random BM instead of solving this chaotic mess? Was such a horrible idea.

And now HF wants both to live, causing more chaos. playing Russian roulette would be better than listening to him


...

how am i supposed to solve this chaotic mess, ExO_?

like i understand. i get it. i waffled, too. problem is vivax wasn't solidly scum for me. more to the point, these open set-ups have had multiple roles in the past. they've had 1 mason in the past. it's an open set-up

regardless, that wasn't my point...there is no town RB role


oh and the last one that was actually a response to you ^^ and yet you somehow missed
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2015 01:27 GMT
#3364
On March 21 2015 10:22 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 10:19 rsoultin wrote:
On March 21 2015 10:18 ExO_ wrote:
On March 21 2015 10:14 rsoultin wrote:
On March 21 2015 10:10 ExO_ wrote:
On March 21 2015 09:42 rsoultin wrote:
ExO_

accept that they weren't lynched

and move on

seriously, the complaining isn't getting anyone anywhere, and i'm fed up now

i like hf/ve's suggestion as well, honestly, settling on two shots for toad and vivax ^^


I could care less how fed up you are. Why did you switch off vivax to BM? I cant see why you switched. Same question to Palmar really but im not expecting anything from mr.yolo


if you're not seeing anything you're not looking ^^ and i can't be assed to deal with your idiocy right now

1. it's not important
2. the reason is very obvious in my filter
3. you definitely haven't read my filter with how you've been talking about me all game
4. focus on what's relevant here, please



you switching vote from vivax to BM is EXTREMELY relevant to the game. What could be more relevant right now? Reading through filters is hard on my phone, which is why Im asking you to tell me right here right now why the switch from Vivax to BM. Can you do that for me, or are you dead set on brushing past day 1 as quickly as you can?


i'm not being responsive to you because you're phrasing everything like you've already decided i'm scum and frankly i don't give a shit if that's the case ^^ if you want a discussion, act like it


Im asking you to give me your reasoning. You outright refuse to do so. Im lhrasing like your scum because I think you're scum. You don't seem to want to convince me otherwise


-yawn-

give me your reasons for your scumread or get out of my face. i'm not making a "town case" on myself based on an unarticulated scumread
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
March 21 2015 01:29 GMT
#3365
I did miss that reply to me. But what I don't understand is the complaint about the chaotic mess. You choose this mess (intentionally perhaps?) when you could've choosen to eliminate the chaos a little bit.

The only reasons I see for switching are sheeping HF and you think vivax might be town ( though I dont know why you think that). Is that all?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2015 01:32 GMT
#3366
On March 21 2015 10:29 ExO_ wrote:
I did miss that reply to me. But what I don't understand is the complaint about the chaotic mess. You choose this mess (intentionally perhaps?) when you could've choosen to eliminate the chaos a little bit.

The only reasons I see for switching are sheeping HF and you think vivax might be town ( though I dont know why you think that). Is that all?


lol is that not enough?

is thinking that both toad and vivax may be town not enough?

my last scum game there were two jailkeepers (what superbia was referring to)

my second town game there was exactly one mason

open set-ups allow for things like this, and night actions usually help resolve some of the claiming issues

you were the one talking about the chaotic mess -_- so don't you dare bring semantics into this when i was only using your wording
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 21 2015 01:38 GMT
#3367
I'm back just got my Dad from the Airport and had Dinner with him and saw that BM was lynched instead of Vivax or Toad since they are the ones who claimed Vig and counterclaimed each other. Also Holyflare looks a little bad for lynching BM and rayn and Palmar's switches seemed scummy after the flip of BM. Perhaps rayn is Mafia alongside Holyflare and Palmar? I don't know tbh but I think 1 of the 3 of them is Mafia at least.
@Holyflare: Why you thought BM was Mafia?
@rayn: Why you swap to BM when I thought you were scumreading Vivax?
@Palmar: Why you swap to BM too when you didn't really say much about him in your filter?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 21 2015 01:38 GMT
#3368
Tommorow when I start analyzing these wagons how frustrated will I be RS?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2015 01:40 GMT
#3369
my opinion on vivax didn't change much, but i think he may be town regarding the claim for two reasons

the claim came late in the day but early enough for everyone to see it, react, and find another good lynch without running around like chickens with their heads cut off (the CC caused that last part)

and secondly, the way he started treating toad toward the end and getting frustrated when his reads posts were getting buried. making reads as you're being lynched could be wifom...i've seen it before from mafia but most often from town...however the frustration itself seemed real and he wasn't bothering with screaming to get toad lynched in return

why are you scumreading vivax? purely setup speculation or is there anything else?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2015 01:42 GMT
#3370
On March 21 2015 10:38 Damdred wrote:
Tommorow when I start analyzing these wagons how frustrated will I be RS?


lol i don't know >< it's certainly not the cleanest lynch damdy so i'm not sure how you'll manage in-depth voting analysis, but i'll try some of my own ^^

i find it especially hard to make heads or tails of voting around claims
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
March 21 2015 01:44 GMT
#3371
On March 21 2015 10:38 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back just got my Dad from the Airport and had Dinner with him and saw that BM was lynched instead of Vivax or Toad since they are the ones who claimed Vig and counterclaimed each other. Also Holyflare looks a little bad for lynching BM and rayn and Palmar's switches seemed scummy after the flip of BM. Perhaps rayn is Mafia alongside Holyflare and Palmar? I don't know tbh but I think 1 of the 3 of them is Mafia at least.
@Holyflare: Why you thought BM was Mafia?
@rayn: Why you swap to BM when I thought you were scumreading Vivax?
@Palmar: Why you swap to BM too when you didn't really say much about him in your filter?


...

1. He pointed out why.
2. He scumreads Toad.
3. He scumreads Toad.

Some for you:

Do you think HF is fakeclaiming being masoned with ONegu?
Where have you been around deadline?
Are your only possible scummers these three guys cause BM got lynched and over the course of the game you never found anyone else to suspect?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 21 2015 01:44 GMT
#3372
On March 21 2015 10:40 rsoultin wrote:
my opinion on vivax didn't change much, but i think he may be town regarding the claim for two reasons

the claim came late in the day but early enough for everyone to see it, react, and find another good lynch without running around like chickens with their heads cut off (the CC caused that last part)

and secondly, the way he started treating toad toward the end and getting frustrated when his reads posts were getting buried. making reads as you're being lynched could be wifom...i've seen it before from mafia but most often from town...however the frustration itself seemed real and he wasn't bothering with screaming to get toad lynched in return

why are you scumreading vivax? purely setup speculation or is there anything else?

Was that aimed at me? If so it was because of Toad's counterclaimed so quickly to Vivax's Vig claim which I don't think Mafia would ever take a trade of 1 for 1 at all in any scenario because that trade favors Town due to the fact that there is less Mafia members than Town.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2015 01:46 GMT
#3373
On March 21 2015 10:44 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 10:40 rsoultin wrote:
my opinion on vivax didn't change much, but i think he may be town regarding the claim for two reasons

the claim came late in the day but early enough for everyone to see it, react, and find another good lynch without running around like chickens with their heads cut off (the CC caused that last part)

and secondly, the way he started treating toad toward the end and getting frustrated when his reads posts were getting buried. making reads as you're being lynched could be wifom...i've seen it before from mafia but most often from town...however the frustration itself seemed real and he wasn't bothering with screaming to get toad lynched in return

why are you scumreading vivax? purely setup speculation or is there anything else?

Was that aimed at me? If so it was because of Toad's counterclaimed so quickly to Vivax's Vig claim which I don't think Mafia would ever take a trade of 1 for 1 at all in any scenario because that trade favors Town due to the fact that there is less Mafia members than Town.


no that was at ExO_, please answer viva's questions, and then tell me why there can't possibly be two town vigis while you're at it
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 21 2015 01:46 GMT
#3374
On March 21 2015 10:44 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 10:38 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back just got my Dad from the Airport and had Dinner with him and saw that BM was lynched instead of Vivax or Toad since they are the ones who claimed Vig and counterclaimed each other. Also Holyflare looks a little bad for lynching BM and rayn and Palmar's switches seemed scummy after the flip of BM. Perhaps rayn is Mafia alongside Holyflare and Palmar? I don't know tbh but I think 1 of the 3 of them is Mafia at least.
@Holyflare: Why you thought BM was Mafia?
@rayn: Why you swap to BM when I thought you were scumreading Vivax?
@Palmar: Why you swap to BM too when you didn't really say much about him in your filter?


...

1. He pointed out why.
2. He scumreads Toad.
3. He scumreads Toad.

Some for you:

Do you think HF is fakeclaiming being masoned with ONegu?
Where have you been around deadline?
Are your only possible scummers these three guys cause BM got lynched and over the course of the game you never found anyone else to suspect?

I don't think HF is fakeclaiming being Masoned with Onegu because HF normally doesn't fake claim a role as Town.
I was at the airport picking up with my Dad at deadline and was taking him out to eat dinner.
Those 3 were the biggest ones I thought of after checking out EoD stuff. There could others I just need to check voting patterns on that.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
March 21 2015 01:47 GMT
#3375
On March 21 2015 10:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 10:44 Vivax wrote:
On March 21 2015 10:38 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back just got my Dad from the Airport and had Dinner with him and saw that BM was lynched instead of Vivax or Toad since they are the ones who claimed Vig and counterclaimed each other. Also Holyflare looks a little bad for lynching BM and rayn and Palmar's switches seemed scummy after the flip of BM. Perhaps rayn is Mafia alongside Holyflare and Palmar? I don't know tbh but I think 1 of the 3 of them is Mafia at least.
@Holyflare: Why you thought BM was Mafia?
@rayn: Why you swap to BM when I thought you were scumreading Vivax?
@Palmar: Why you swap to BM too when you didn't really say much about him in your filter?


...

1. He pointed out why.
2. He scumreads Toad.
3. He scumreads Toad.

Some for you:

Do you think HF is fakeclaiming being masoned with ONegu?
Where have you been around deadline?
Are your only possible scummers these three guys cause BM got lynched and over the course of the game you never found anyone else to suspect?

I don't think HF is fakeclaiming being Masoned with Onegu because HF normally doesn't fake claim a role as Town.
I was at the airport picking up with my Dad at deadline and was taking him out to eat dinner.
Those 3 were the biggest ones I thought of after checking out EoD stuff. There could others I just need to check voting patterns on that.


I can buy your deadline explanation but what I don't buy is why you ask HF those questions before reading the reasons and not thinking that his claim is fake anyway.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 21 2015 01:48 GMT
#3376
On March 21 2015 10:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 10:44 Vivax wrote:
On March 21 2015 10:38 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back just got my Dad from the Airport and had Dinner with him and saw that BM was lynched instead of Vivax or Toad since they are the ones who claimed Vig and counterclaimed each other. Also Holyflare looks a little bad for lynching BM and rayn and Palmar's switches seemed scummy after the flip of BM. Perhaps rayn is Mafia alongside Holyflare and Palmar? I don't know tbh but I think 1 of the 3 of them is Mafia at least.
@Holyflare: Why you thought BM was Mafia?
@rayn: Why you swap to BM when I thought you were scumreading Vivax?
@Palmar: Why you swap to BM too when you didn't really say much about him in your filter?


...

1. He pointed out why.
2. He scumreads Toad.
3. He scumreads Toad.

Some for you:

Do you think HF is fakeclaiming being masoned with ONegu?
Where have you been around deadline?
Are your only possible scummers these three guys cause BM got lynched and over the course of the game you never found anyone else to suspect?

I don't think HF is fakeclaiming being Masoned with Onegu because HF normally doesn't fake claim a role as Town.
I was at the airport picking up with my Dad at deadline and was taking him out to eat dinner.
Those 3 were the biggest ones I thought of after checking out EoD stuff. There could others I just need to check voting patterns on that.


Hf literally claims a role every game he's not generally..
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 21 2015 01:49 GMT
#3377
Also the reason I don't think we would have 2 Town Vigs because that would stupid to have 2 Town Vigs esp with a Tracker claim from Rayn although he looks bad at the End of Day voting for his switch to BM seemed to have little reason. Also we had 2 masons claimed in Onegu and Holyflare so if we really had 5 blues it would to over powered I think for Town even in such a large game (We got 18 people signed up for this game).
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2015 01:49 GMT
#3378
oh lol another for the list of people i keep forgetting about...

the wonderfully irritating onegu ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2015 01:50 GMT
#3379
On March 21 2015 10:49 LightningStrike wrote:
Also the reason I don't think we would have 2 Town Vigs because that would stupid to have 2 Town Vigs esp with a Tracker claim from Rayn although he looks bad at the End of Day voting for his switch to BM seemed to have little reason. Also we had 2 masons claimed in Onegu and Holyflare so if we really had 5 blues it would to over powered I think for Town even in such a large game (We got 18 people signed up for this game).


that jives...

my thing is i'm more skeptical about the other claims than i am about the vig claims lol >< funny as that sounds
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 21 2015 01:50 GMT
#3380
On March 21 2015 10:48 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 10:46 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 21 2015 10:44 Vivax wrote:
On March 21 2015 10:38 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back just got my Dad from the Airport and had Dinner with him and saw that BM was lynched instead of Vivax or Toad since they are the ones who claimed Vig and counterclaimed each other. Also Holyflare looks a little bad for lynching BM and rayn and Palmar's switches seemed scummy after the flip of BM. Perhaps rayn is Mafia alongside Holyflare and Palmar? I don't know tbh but I think 1 of the 3 of them is Mafia at least.
@Holyflare: Why you thought BM was Mafia?
@rayn: Why you swap to BM when I thought you were scumreading Vivax?
@Palmar: Why you swap to BM too when you didn't really say much about him in your filter?


...

1. He pointed out why.
2. He scumreads Toad.
3. He scumreads Toad.

Some for you:

Do you think HF is fakeclaiming being masoned with ONegu?
Where have you been around deadline?
Are your only possible scummers these three guys cause BM got lynched and over the course of the game you never found anyone else to suspect?

I don't think HF is fakeclaiming being Masoned with Onegu because HF normally doesn't fake claim a role as Town.
I was at the airport picking up with my Dad at deadline and was taking him out to eat dinner.
Those 3 were the biggest ones I thought of after checking out EoD stuff. There could others I just need to check voting patterns on that.


Hf literally claims a role every game he's not generally..

He didn't claim at Titanic and he only fake counterlclaimed Eden's cop claim when he was Mafia but I don't think he claimed VT in Horns or Void.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
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