TL Mafia LXX: Guardians of the Galaxy - Page 169
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Vivax
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rsoultin
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On March 21 2015 06:29 rsoultin wrote: headache headache headache -_- i don't see toad as scum and i don't know about vivax i'm fine with another wagon, but not lightningstrike you guys are killing me here lol >< On March 21 2015 07:34 rsoultin wrote: well, honestly, i don't think it's quite as simple as hf or bresh paint it but it really just comes down to not at all sure on vivax plus vig claim vs not at all sure on bm lol >< so whatever...kinda just going with my prior hf townread here and the minimal losses strategy... like i wouldn't have been talking to vivax in the first place trying to get him to respond to me if i didn't think there was a possibility he could be town. he's not still trying to get toad lynched...i dunnae On March 21 2015 07:50 rsoultin wrote: nah i don't think truffle is scum lol...kinda surprised you do vivax actually cause he's being very truffle-like the problem is we don't know the scum setup or what else this town may have, and it's possible, however unlikely, that we may actually no more day 2...if i was flatout scumreading vivax then sure lynch him to hell but i dunnae...i think he could be town >< there, filter-dove myself for you -_- less for you and more for anyone else interested but for some reason unable to read a filter on a phone, which amazingly i've managed to accomplish with my low IQ xP | ||
rsoultin
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On March 21 2015 08:44 rsoultin wrote: ... how am i supposed to solve this chaotic mess, ExO_? like i understand. i get it. i waffled, too. problem is vivax wasn't solidly scum for me. more to the point, these open set-ups have had multiple roles in the past. they've had 1 mason in the past. it's an open set-up regardless, that wasn't my point...there is no town RB role oh and the last one that was actually a response to you ^^ and yet you somehow missed | ||
rsoultin
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On March 21 2015 10:22 ExO_ wrote: Im asking you to give me your reasoning. You outright refuse to do so. Im lhrasing like your scum because I think you're scum. You don't seem to want to convince me otherwise -yawn- give me your reasons for your scumread or get out of my face. i'm not making a "town case" on myself based on an unarticulated scumread | ||
ExO_
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The only reasons I see for switching are sheeping HF and you think vivax might be town ( though I dont know why you think that). Is that all? | ||
rsoultin
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On March 21 2015 10:29 ExO_ wrote: I did miss that reply to me. But what I don't understand is the complaint about the chaotic mess. You choose this mess (intentionally perhaps?) when you could've choosen to eliminate the chaos a little bit. The only reasons I see for switching are sheeping HF and you think vivax might be town ( though I dont know why you think that). Is that all? lol is that not enough? is thinking that both toad and vivax may be town not enough? my last scum game there were two jailkeepers (what superbia was referring to) my second town game there was exactly one mason open set-ups allow for things like this, and night actions usually help resolve some of the claiming issues you were the one talking about the chaotic mess -_- so don't you dare bring semantics into this when i was only using your wording | ||
LightningStrike
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@Holyflare: Why you thought BM was Mafia? @rayn: Why you swap to BM when I thought you were scumreading Vivax? @Palmar: Why you swap to BM too when you didn't really say much about him in your filter? | ||
Damdred
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rsoultin
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the claim came late in the day but early enough for everyone to see it, react, and find another good lynch without running around like chickens with their heads cut off (the CC caused that last part) and secondly, the way he started treating toad toward the end and getting frustrated when his reads posts were getting buried. making reads as you're being lynched could be wifom...i've seen it before from mafia but most often from town...however the frustration itself seemed real and he wasn't bothering with screaming to get toad lynched in return why are you scumreading vivax? purely setup speculation or is there anything else? | ||
rsoultin
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On March 21 2015 10:38 Damdred wrote: Tommorow when I start analyzing these wagons how frustrated will I be RS? lol i don't know >< it's certainly not the cleanest lynch damdy so i'm not sure how you'll manage in-depth voting analysis, but i'll try some of my own ^^ i find it especially hard to make heads or tails of voting around claims | ||
Vivax
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On March 21 2015 10:38 LightningStrike wrote: I'm back just got my Dad from the Airport and had Dinner with him and saw that BM was lynched instead of Vivax or Toad since they are the ones who claimed Vig and counterclaimed each other. Also Holyflare looks a little bad for lynching BM and rayn and Palmar's switches seemed scummy after the flip of BM. Perhaps rayn is Mafia alongside Holyflare and Palmar? I don't know tbh but I think 1 of the 3 of them is Mafia at least. @Holyflare: Why you thought BM was Mafia? @rayn: Why you swap to BM when I thought you were scumreading Vivax? @Palmar: Why you swap to BM too when you didn't really say much about him in your filter? ... 1. He pointed out why. 2. He scumreads Toad. 3. He scumreads Toad. Some for you: Do you think HF is fakeclaiming being masoned with ONegu? Where have you been around deadline? Are your only possible scummers these three guys cause BM got lynched and over the course of the game you never found anyone else to suspect? | ||
LightningStrike
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On March 21 2015 10:40 rsoultin wrote: my opinion on vivax didn't change much, but i think he may be town regarding the claim for two reasons the claim came late in the day but early enough for everyone to see it, react, and find another good lynch without running around like chickens with their heads cut off (the CC caused that last part) and secondly, the way he started treating toad toward the end and getting frustrated when his reads posts were getting buried. making reads as you're being lynched could be wifom...i've seen it before from mafia but most often from town...however the frustration itself seemed real and he wasn't bothering with screaming to get toad lynched in return why are you scumreading vivax? purely setup speculation or is there anything else? Was that aimed at me? If so it was because of Toad's counterclaimed so quickly to Vivax's Vig claim which I don't think Mafia would ever take a trade of 1 for 1 at all in any scenario because that trade favors Town due to the fact that there is less Mafia members than Town. | ||
rsoultin
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On March 21 2015 10:44 LightningStrike wrote: Was that aimed at me? If so it was because of Toad's counterclaimed so quickly to Vivax's Vig claim which I don't think Mafia would ever take a trade of 1 for 1 at all in any scenario because that trade favors Town due to the fact that there is less Mafia members than Town. no that was at ExO_, please answer viva's questions, and then tell me why there can't possibly be two town vigis while you're at it | ||
LightningStrike
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On March 21 2015 10:44 Vivax wrote: ... 1. He pointed out why. 2. He scumreads Toad. 3. He scumreads Toad. Some for you: Do you think HF is fakeclaiming being masoned with ONegu? Where have you been around deadline? Are your only possible scummers these three guys cause BM got lynched and over the course of the game you never found anyone else to suspect? I don't think HF is fakeclaiming being Masoned with Onegu because HF normally doesn't fake claim a role as Town. I was at the airport picking up with my Dad at deadline and was taking him out to eat dinner. Those 3 were the biggest ones I thought of after checking out EoD stuff. There could others I just need to check voting patterns on that. | ||
Vivax
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On March 21 2015 10:46 LightningStrike wrote: I don't think HF is fakeclaiming being Masoned with Onegu because HF normally doesn't fake claim a role as Town. I was at the airport picking up with my Dad at deadline and was taking him out to eat dinner. Those 3 were the biggest ones I thought of after checking out EoD stuff. There could others I just need to check voting patterns on that. I can buy your deadline explanation but what I don't buy is why you ask HF those questions before reading the reasons and not thinking that his claim is fake anyway. | ||
Damdred
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On March 21 2015 10:46 LightningStrike wrote: I don't think HF is fakeclaiming being Masoned with Onegu because HF normally doesn't fake claim a role as Town. I was at the airport picking up with my Dad at deadline and was taking him out to eat dinner. Those 3 were the biggest ones I thought of after checking out EoD stuff. There could others I just need to check voting patterns on that. Hf literally claims a role every game he's not generally.. | ||
LightningStrike
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rsoultin
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the wonderfully irritating onegu >< | ||
rsoultin
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On March 21 2015 10:49 LightningStrike wrote: Also the reason I don't think we would have 2 Town Vigs because that would stupid to have 2 Town Vigs esp with a Tracker claim from Rayn although he looks bad at the End of Day voting for his switch to BM seemed to have little reason. Also we had 2 masons claimed in Onegu and Holyflare so if we really had 5 blues it would to over powered I think for Town even in such a large game (We got 18 people signed up for this game). that jives... my thing is i'm more skeptical about the other claims than i am about the vig claims lol >< funny as that sounds | ||
LightningStrike
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On March 21 2015 10:48 Damdred wrote: Hf literally claims a role every game he's not generally.. He didn't claim at Titanic and he only fake counterlclaimed Eden's cop claim when he was Mafia but I don't think he claimed VT in Horns or Void. | ||
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