EPTTL Mafia LXX: Guardians of the Galaxy - Page 15
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NEVER! NEVER! NEVER! | ||
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On March 24 2015 01:28 rsoultin wrote: if i treat you as if i believe you're 100% town instead of just possibly town, will you talk to me? I don't care how you treat me if you talk to me in a reasonable manner. Like there is 0% chance i am mafia if LS is scum. LS has a red check on him. Can you now go look at how LS' "read" on me develops and why he calls me mafia? | ||
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LS sheeps Holyflare's read on me. But he is a guy who's about 100% of reads are purely based on meta. He asks Holyflare to proveide my scumgames. Holyflare never does that. Do you think it's LS'y to NOT go check for them by himself? He just keeps calling me scum when there is a wagon on me -- also keep whining about Holyflare not providing those games. Do you think that's what he would do as townie? I said all this on D1. Then he asks me, his scumread (i would assume people read their scumreads posts to better prove their read is correct -- right?) "why did you vote for BM?". Like it's fucking obvious why i did vote for BM. I have had a townread on Vivax all game long and i voted for BM because i did not have a townread on him and Vivax asked me to. Somehow LS "doesn't know this". Like he isn't even trying to be logical, he is just shouting shit all over the place. Good thing is that this confirms me town.  | ||
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On March 24 2015 01:44 Vivax wrote: Anyway I'll make it known I'd lynch Palmar, if anything cause he bored the hell out of me when he showed up. I promise it's not cause he works in a bank. I don't think Palmar is mafia with Toad and Toad is mafia so Palmar is probably town. Seriously, Toad is so scummy. | ||
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On March 24 2015 01:46 Trfel wrote: Raynpelikoneet, why did you track Vivax? I said i would track one of Vivax/Toad and i rng'd it. | ||
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On March 24 2015 01:52 Trfel wrote: From my perspective, tracking one of the claimed vigilantes seems pointless. If they really are vigilante, then they either got roleblocked (went nowhere) or visited their target. If they are mafia, then they either lied (went nowhere) or visited their target. You only gain information if one of the vigilantes visited someone other than the claimed to, which would be extremely stupid for them to do, unless they were framer/roleblocker. So I'm assuming that you were checking to see if Vivax was actually framer or roleblocker? Or am I missing something? You are half right. It doesn't matter which one i track if i tell i track one of them. If mafia has an way out they probably will not roleblock me. That means they will probably roleblock the vigi who is not mafia (yes, and i assume Toad is mafia -- so that would be Vivax here). Most likely the scum that is not a vigi (assuming there is one between them) is not going to do anything or is going to claim they shot mafia night kill. So it really does not matter which one of them i track, but it will give a 100% confirmation what one of the CLAIMED BLUES did. Had i tracked someone else they can just claim vanilla (or rather, i would not have claimed my check at all until later) and if i miss mafia/town PR i get no info at all. | ||
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On March 24 2015 01:53 rsoultin wrote: you know i kinda disagree lol that this confirms you town ^ however i do think that the waffle back and forth about calling you mafia or not based on your tracker claim (town) + your vote switch to BM (scum) is ridiculous like the main two people he was scumreading were you and Palmar for that...(but again it doesn't look like he knew what to do with your tracker claim lolol) and Palmar has absolutely no incentive to switch to the BM lynch (whereas I could actually argue reasons for you) if he's scum, because parking on Toad just makes him look stubborn Like do you think LS makes that sort of arguments on me if we are both mafia? I have to confront him in that case (which i did), i have to push him if he didn't give me reasonable answers (which he didn't). That is just stupid mafia play.... | ||
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On March 24 2015 02:03 Trfel wrote: So what you're saying is, because you weren't roleblocked, that means that mafia wasn't worried about the results of your tracking. And your conclusion is that Vivax is town and Toadesstern is mafia. I'm sorry, I just don't understand. You don't need to explain it again, hopefully enough other people understand it so it's a non-issue. What did toad do? | ||
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On March 24 2015 02:05 rsoultin wrote: I agree it's stupid mafia play, yes, rayn. It's a point in your favor lol ^^ I'm also rethinking my townread on Toad...problem is that's actually not a point in your favor, despite the fact you've been scumreading him  but regardless...i'm not going to be completely forthcoming with all my thoughts right now for strategic reasons ^^ Why is it not? The dude apparently wants to lynch me BEFORE LS, the fucking red check. | ||
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On March 24 2015 02:08 Trfel wrote: I'm confident that Toad shot VisceraEyes. As either the town vigilante or a mafia goon. Did he say so? | ||
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On March 24 2015 02:11 Eden1892 wrote: Excuse me ray I need my q answered. Why did you hard claim to one of your biggest scumreads? I didn't claim "to one of my biggest scumreads". wtf? | ||
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On March 24 2015 02:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote: If Toad is scum he CCed a town vig to almost guarantee a 1 for 1 trade by D2. He also felt really genuine spamming his case, really believed in it and I had a productive session with him solving the game during N1. Hks reads also completely matched mine. No way is he scum. I don't care when he claimed. He has done things that are scummy. - He scumread me when he could not have scumread me (claimed so in his next post). - He wants to lynch me before the red checked guy. Toad would NEVER do that as town. NEVER. | ||
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You just can't do that as town. It is simple. | ||
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On March 24 2015 02:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote: All of these are possible for Toad to do as town because Toad is town. End of story. you can die scum. | ||
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On March 24 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote: >> umm i think you can do that as town? it's just another example of bad play that doesn't necessarily make someone scummy i mean palmar like...regularly never reads as town xP fecalfeast <- same thing course they usually don't do the wall-of-text thing, but again, this doesn't confirm someone scum  secrets and awesomeness for EoN incoming lol JESUS FUCKING CHRIST YOU ARE JUST GIVING OUT FAKE READS?!?!?!!?!? I don't even know why i came back to saying something logical. bye. | ||
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On March 24 2015 02:22 rsoultin wrote: dude i'm saying toad can be scum will you calm down now? you're freaking out too much Except that things like that NECESSARILY MAKE SOMEONE MAFIA! | ||
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WHY ON AERTH WOULD ANYONE EVER DO THAT? | ||
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