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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 21 2015 20:56 GMT
#3898
HF didn't you say you thought VE was pretty towny? Can you explain why?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 21 2015 21:01 GMT
#3905
Like I don't think VE has done anything to push town objective and done plenty to push mafia objective. Scumreads Fecal, never chases it yet keeps the read. Votes for me because I didn't include him in a list then never pushes it, claims he doesn't pressure me because I'm "great at conversational play" which is a lousy excuse, and his play was entirely defensive because his "proof" was that I responded to it and cared about it. The great defensive play was also that he challenged me to scumread him, in a sense trying to destroy any credit for scumreading him because he already called it out beforehand. And then there's the Eden thing.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 21 2015 21:01 GMT
#3906
On March 22 2015 05:58 Toadesstern wrote:
yeah exo is actually a good shot. Not my shot because I'm on Onegu but a good shot for sure.

I said VE is town as well @Artanis.

Can you explain why?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 21 2015 21:05 GMT
#3915
On March 22 2015 06:04 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 06:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 22 2015 05:58 Toadesstern wrote:
yeah exo is actually a good shot. Not my shot because I'm on Onegu but a good shot for sure.

I said VE is town as well @Artanis.

Can you explain why?


Have been doing this for the last 5 or so games with VE because I've always been wrong when trying to read him and it's just working:

If you think VE is town he is mafia.
If you think VE is mafia he is town.

Don't bother any further unless you actually have any hard evidence.

So you actually think VE is mafia. You see, this 'defense' of his doesn't really help me much in actually determining his alignment.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 21 2015 21:07 GMT
#3922
On March 22 2015 06:05 Holyflare wrote:
yeh i dunno about ve I just felt he was towny early in the game for unexplainable interactivity reasons but not particularly looked at him in detail

Then go do so because both Eden and I want to shoot him and Toad thinks he's scummy but is using retarded logic.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 21 2015 21:09 GMT
#3925
On March 22 2015 06:08 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 06:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 22 2015 06:04 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 22 2015 06:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 22 2015 05:58 Toadesstern wrote:
yeah exo is actually a good shot. Not my shot because I'm on Onegu but a good shot for sure.

I said VE is town as well @Artanis.

Can you explain why?


Have been doing this for the last 5 or so games with VE because I've always been wrong when trying to read him and it's just working:

If you think VE is town he is mafia.
If you think VE is mafia he is town.

Don't bother any further unless you actually have any hard evidence.

So you actually think VE is mafia. You see, this 'defense' of his doesn't really help me much in actually determining his alignment.


I know. I'm never going to defend or try to lynch him based on that. But it works for me so I'm fine with it. VE does a lot of weird shit that just doesn't makse sense and I'm always stuck on that trying to figure out what's going on otherwise

I've town read him correctly in the past though and I'm not seeing it here. It seems like he just isn't doing anything. He's saying stuff but he's having no effect on the thread.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 21 2015 21:11 GMT
#3929
On March 22 2015 06:09 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 06:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 22 2015 06:05 Holyflare wrote:
yeh i dunno about ve I just felt he was towny early in the game for unexplainable interactivity reasons but not particularly looked at him in detail

Then go do so because both Eden and I want to shoot him and Toad thinks he's scummy but is using retarded logic.


nah we shoot slam and breshke

I need to read Breshke again.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 21 2015 21:12 GMT
#3930
Bresh pretty much hard townread Slam in one of his first posts. Seems unlikely they're scum together.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 21 2015 21:13 GMT
#3933
I mean someone like DP can pull off a hard townread on a scummate but Bresh? From what I've heard his scumgame is awful so I would find that very unlikely.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 21 2015 21:17 GMT
#3936
On March 22 2015 06:15 Holyflare wrote:
artanis you're mad i just quoted his read on slam

Show nested quote +
I also like this from slam. Him and Hf are going at it and slam tries to bring other peoples opinions into it. Feels more townie because if he is town he doesn't have the fear of people analyzing his posts. Can't read slam for shit though so not putting much into this other than I wouldn't vote for him

Rest of the post is pretty much hard townreading slam though. I'd think if it was mafia-mafia townreading one another it'd be hard to come up with reasons to legitimately think so so the reasons would be blown up rather than toned down.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 21 2015 21:19 GMT
#3938
What I find weird about Breshke though is that he posted a list of reads where he had Slam as leaning town, then when he quoted my list of reads he questioned the Slam read on which I also had him as leaning town. He questioned the reason, but still I'd imagine he'd be more interested in the reads that were different.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 21 2015 21:21 GMT
#3941
On March 22 2015 06:19 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 06:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
What I find weird about Breshke though is that he posted a list of reads where he had Slam as leaning town, then when he quoted my list of reads he questioned the Slam read on which I also had him as leaning town. He questioned the reason, but still I'd imagine he'd be more interested in the reads that were different.


he questioned it because you phrased it badly

Yeah I know but I still find it weird that that's the only thing he cared about when he didn't even list me in his list post.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 21 2015 21:23 GMT
#3947
Meh Breshke's filter leaves me inconclusive.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 21 2015 21:25 GMT
#3948
Looking at Superbia now. I forgot we already had him as confirmed mafia
On March 19 2015 08:08 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 08:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:07 Superbia wrote:
Hard claiming town.

Counterclaiming town.


Fuck.

Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 21 2015 21:30 GMT
#3953
Vivax, Rayn, you guys went after Super hard earlier in the day. Can you explain your current read on him?
Inb4 read filters, I'm already doing that enough.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 21 2015 21:32 GMT
#3956
Can I play mario party with you HF?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 21 2015 21:33 GMT
#3958
How about Toad shoots slam and Vivax shoots VE instead? That way Toad can abdicate responsibility for shooting VE.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 21 2015 21:39 GMT
#3963
Superbia can you explain your read evaluation on me? You called me scummy early in the game then never really questioned me again. It's like I fell off your radar despite being prominently present during the day and suspected by a myriad of others.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 21 2015 21:41 GMT
#3965
On March 22 2015 06:40 Holyflare wrote:
Yeh toad is effectively claiming mafia if he shoots anyone that's not who we've been talking about

If he shoots mafia I'd be okay with it.
Also you didn't answer if I can play Mario Party with you
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 21 2015 21:45 GMT
#3969
On March 22 2015 06:42 Holyflare wrote:
It's not online afaik so no :p

And no i have a theory that I'll reveal just at deadline

Well I mean I'd just come fly over obv
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