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again with vivax missing the main point of the damdred case
is this on purpose or what? xP
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On March 21 2015 00:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 00:32 Vivax wrote:On March 21 2015 00:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 21 2015 00:28 Vivax wrote:
Artanis did town Koshi post less in the last game you hosted?
Was town Koshi scum? In the last game I hosted town Koshi modkilled himself for very silly reasons. He posted less in the start, but I believe he mentioned pregame he was going to try to post less. Town Koshi felt offended by the same argument you and Dam follow which is purely activity based, so he modkilled himself cause everyone was on his ass cause "omg you post less than usual". And that you're not aware of this when he was in the very same game you hosted is alarming, not to mention you townread a suspect for posting one wordy case? Your argument is "People always post less as mafia than as town", and what's your sample? The last two games you hosted? Lol We're talking about JOAT here I thought, where Koshi modkilled himself not because of activity but because of a perceived imbalance in the game from a position of incomplete information which he got super mad about for no reason.
After we were both dead I talked with Koshi about it and while it's true that a lot of his rge came from the perceived imbalance it's also true that people falsely scumread him for not being post-y enough.
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On March 21 2015 00:36 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 00:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 21 2015 00:32 Vivax wrote:On March 21 2015 00:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 21 2015 00:28 Vivax wrote:
Artanis did town Koshi post less in the last game you hosted?
Was town Koshi scum? In the last game I hosted town Koshi modkilled himself for very silly reasons. He posted less in the start, but I believe he mentioned pregame he was going to try to post less. Town Koshi felt offended by the same argument you and Dam follow which is purely activity based, so he modkilled himself cause everyone was on his ass cause "omg you post less than usual". And that you're not aware of this when he was in the very same game you hosted is alarming, not to mention you townread a suspect for posting one wordy case? Your argument is "People always post less as mafia than as town", and what's your sample? The last two games you hosted? Lol We're talking about JOAT here I thought, where Koshi modkilled himself not because of activity but because of a perceived imbalance in the game from a position of incomplete information which he got super mad about for no reason. After we were both dead I talked with Koshi about it and while it's true that a lot of his rge came from the perceived imbalance it's also true that people falsely scumread him for not being post-y enough.
It's possible, but having the information that you smurfed especially BECAUSE you were worried about not being able to spend enough time as town makes me weary of a low post count Vivax. I'd like to see you and Damdred engage in conversation though.
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Now I can't tell for sure who is honest about the scumread and who's just hopping on a wagon fueled by jubjubs who use bad heuristics, but I can tell it's a bad heuristic and I provide examples for it, while your argumentation is based on a few games.
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I challenge you to make a case that shows me pursuing a mafia agenda and is not based on me being "peripheral" and other subjective shit and the claim that my LS scumread isn't genuine which is ludicrous in itself.
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On March 21 2015 00:35 Vivax wrote:
My mafia game is characterized by activity falling off after D1, provided I managed to establish myself as town. I'm not getting lynched D1.
And SL why should I vote Damdred like you suggested, for the third time?
I already said hes the only one I really wanna vote over you...
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On March 21 2015 00:41 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 00:35 Vivax wrote:
My mafia game is characterized by activity falling off after D1, provided I managed to establish myself as town. I'm not getting lynched D1.
And SL why should I vote Damdred like you suggested, for the third time? I already said hes the only one I really wanna vote over you...
Still waiting for you to tell me why LS is innocent child.
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oh ok dont do that lol. Let me quote it
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On March 20 2015 06:23 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 22:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 19 2015 22:58 Vivax wrote:On March 19 2015 22:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 19 2015 22:54 Vivax wrote:On March 19 2015 22:52 LightningStrike wrote:I'm back and saw a answer from Toad on my question regarding him and Palmar in Hammertime when they both were town: On March 19 2015 12:20 Toadesstern wrote:On March 19 2015 12:10 LightningStrike wrote:On March 19 2015 12:00 Toadesstern wrote:On March 19 2015 11:52 LightningStrike wrote:
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Ya you kinda got lynched because Palmars tunneling you that's the thing in Hammertime. Also I can understand a little bit on why you thought you need to be more serious after JOAT but still it just odd playing with a already serious you. I mean if I get mafiaread for being different or more serious than I played in my last couple games there's nothing I can and will say about that other than my occasional banter about how that's not alignment indicative at all unless someone points out how different means scummy... because there's nothing I can say about it. I am playing differently (probably) With that being said, if that's what it's like I'll just ignore everything in that direction from now on and just focus on getting my reads out a little bit earlier than last game and making sure I get them out properly explained. Got angry about Palmar pulling the same shit he did in Hammertime when he should know better and talked myself into a wolf... won't happen again and this is the last post about it. Ya true about Palmar should know better on that but you seemed to taken it more personally o.o Are you still offended by Palmar's thing on you in Hammertime when you both were town? from JoaT: On March 03 2015 08:08 Toadesstern wrote:
Fear not guyses for I have yet again rolled neither mafia nor Ninja. Thus I will proceed to kill all those mafias and not be mislynched d1 despite being called fucking confirmed town 24-36hours into the game.
Let me check real quick if Palmar is in the game not really offended but annoyed. I thought he was town early on doing it on purpose to start some discussion or get some read from me based on how I'd react if he misreads me again like that, so yeah I got annoyed at the possible idea of having to deal with that again because he might make someone else agree with it... Right know I'm pretty sure he's mafia for keeping at it and knowing that it annoys me. Can some of the guys who think my tone is so awful and completly different this game please go ahead and at least compare that post above with my first post in here instead of just believing all this about how my tone is completly different? Props for nailing it on my seriousness though LS. Because yeah, that did change, just not the thing Palmar and HF mentioned. I don't a see a big tone difference on your entrance to this game compared to JOAT regarding Palmar and I wouldn't blame on you on that because as a Cohost in Hammertime I kinda felt bad and I shoulda warned him on his Kill Toad spam and I didn't if I recalled. Also rsoultin not wanting to give her read on me this early to Eden but I don't blame her because I rolled Mafia in JOAT when she was town and called me Town by meta and will have to bleed green this game. So I saw Palmar and Rayn going at each other and saw Artanis trying to stop it but I remember Artanis so townie in Imperial yet when he lynched Town!Palmar he basically looked pure Mafia (Scum if you prefer to use that term) so I might need to wait on reading him esp because he just rolled Mafia in Student VI which I was coaching the Cop and the Vet and the Cop caught him with a Cop check so ya I going to be careful reading him. Also he got a decent point about a chance that Palmar or Rayn are Mafia and the other town due to their interactions esp Palmar stuff early on about Toad and I not going to make the same mistake I did in Titanic and give a easy townread on Palmar Day 1. I also have yet to play with Mafia!Rayn so I might be a bit bias on him being town compared to Palmar so meh. @Artanis who is more likely to be Mafia between Palmar and Rayn and Why? @ExO Where you at on reads considering our past history with each other? Oh god this post is so mafia Have you played with LS before? This is how LS plays. And he's not straight to the point and logorrhoic as town as well? There's so many parts in that post that make me wonder "why would you post this as town". LS reasons almost purely from meta, patterns and all that. I've observed him play mafia in JOAT and he had massive problems posting there. The fact that he posted a lot in a row yesterday night almost confirms him as town alone. I really like this popular ls read. In hindsight he did post reluctantly that game I think Ls is inno child for life
On March 20 2015 06:26 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 23:41 Vivax wrote:
How is that list town. It's void of scumreads, it's like a big "DONT HURT ME PLS". Ive suspected him of being mafia for not having scum reads before. I was soo wrong....
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On March 21 2015 00:43 sicklucker wrote:
Read my list post
I read it and there's no reasoning for LS being town, on the contrary you are ignoring your other previous scumreads to sheep your own scumread or lynch him. It's an odd dichotomy.
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Well that's shit reasoning and doesn't even consider the reasoning other people posted for him being mafia.
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-rolls around the thread-
ls is town
ls is town
ls is town
rayn is mafia
rayn is mafia
rayn is mafia
i could be wrong
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BUT I'M NOT!
lynch rayn!
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I will vote SL out of spite if it gets him lynched.
Don't even bother reading his filter to find out if he's scum, but for sanity preservation I will lynch him if possible.
Might read him later and see if he's scum or just dumb, can#t guarantee it.
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On March 21 2015 00:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 23:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah Artanis in fact looks terrible too. What is this? I should be perma confirmed town to you for the way I handled the suspicion on you initially by HF. There was no reason for me to say that I think you're suspicious but I don't want to vote you unless we're both scum, which if you're town you know isn't the case, because it makes me look a lot worse than if I just voted for you.
Damdred's case was not good. Yes it is a fact it probably (amongst some other things) makes him more townie than scum, that's where you are right on, but the case does NOT make Vivax mafia. Never.
You know, i originally townread you because usually when you are scum you go ham on me for no apparent reason (like Holyflare in this game -- if you did that you would be confirmed scum). But Vivax, Holyflare and Eden actually do have a point.
You look at stuff you should not look at. Like you haven't read nor you have tried to understand what i say about Superbia & LightningStrike. Apparently you think i am scum but you are not sure. It doesn't make any sense to me that YOU, of all the people in this game do not even CONSIDER what i say, if it's good or bad. You like to interact with me, yet here you don't. Instead you sheep a bad case on Vivax. I just don't think you are this bad. Because the stuff i say about my scumreads is in fact really good.
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Ls gives so little original content that ill never feel comfortable lynching him day1 . So vice versa if I get a townie read from him it lasts longer then most people because theres not enough to go on.
Also hes always lynchbait and I pretty much always defend him. I often just figure out his alignment by what people flip read him as.
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Two wagons, SL and LS. Suddenly a lot of people start switching to me based on a wall of text with no follow up from the creator, among which we have.... SL and LS. Then Artanis.
Smells like scum counterwagon.
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Day 1: Current Vote Count
LightningStrike (4): Bill Murray, Toadesstern, FecalFeast, raynpelikoneet, Vivax
Vivax (4): Holyflare, Artanis[Xp], Damdred, LightningStrike, sicklucker
sicklucker (3): Eden1892, Holyflare, rsoultin, Alakaslam, Superbia, Alakaslam, Eden1892, Breshke
Artanis[Xp] (3): Toadesstern, Eden1892, VisceraEyes, Eden1892
raynpelikoneet (2): Holyflare, Damdred, rsoultin
Eden1892 (1): Fecalfeast, Onegu, Bill Murray, ExO
Toadesstern (1): Palmar, Artanis[Xp]
Damdred (0): raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, Artanis[Xp]
Superbia (0): Eden1892
VisceraEyes (0): Artanis[Xp]
Alakaslam (0): Holyflare, Artanis, sicklucker, Eden1892
ExO_ (0): Eden1892
Palmar (0): Toadesstern, Toadesstern, Bill Murray
Trfel (0): Artanis, Superbia, Eden1892
Holyflare (0): Alakaslam
Not Voting (2): Trfel, Onegu
Currently, LightningStrike is set to be executed. Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone.
Voting is mandatory and in this thread. You may NOT abstain.
Posting after the deadline and prior to flip is subject to a modkill.
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