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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
1. I thought you weren't capable of that sort of large post as mafia, LS showed you were 2. yesterday Koshi was 100% confirmation biasing jat for large stretches of time and at other points being pretty annoying (i believe i said as much). today he just gives reads and reasons and perspective on the game. tis different. i thought he was town yesterday also, i just *like* his play more today 3. i don't know what to do with jat, and this is very town indicative for me | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/479775-xxx-mini-mafia-a-night-of-debauchery-18?page=38#760 If you want to talk about "conversational arguments" or whatever, this was 1/2 hr after Damdred posted his request. Given the length and time it took for me to see it I would consider that reasonably conversational Part of that argument sucks to respond to because I haven't had a lot of direct conversations. I feel like I haven't needed them so far, and I've been cutting down on the "conversational reads" style to an extent because it turns me into a hyperactive squirrel. This is important for me b/c I'm sick of getting into postgames where I know to myself what my instincts were saying about people and I argue as much, and then people look at me like I'm crazy because I argued the other way in the thread. I want to take that next step and get to the point where people can clearly point to my scumreads, see my logic and lynch the people I want to lynch on a regular basis. We done here? I'm not mafia. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 12 2015 00:17 marvellosity wrote: alright i'll play nice 1. I thought you weren't capable of that sort of large post as mafia, LS showed you were 2. yesterday Koshi was 100% confirmation biasing jat for large stretches of time and at other points being pretty annoying (i believe i said as much). today he just gives reads and reasons and perspective on the game. tis different. i thought he was town yesterday also, i just *like* his play more today 3. i don't know what to do with jat, and this is very town indicative for me Your argument #1 is terrible and a pretty big reason why I think you might be mafia. Look at the post I made in NYE vs the one in here. They're not even close to the same qualitatively. The one in NYE has like 3 reads in it on d3 and they're backed up almost entirely with superficial arguments. This one has nine on d1 with deeper arguments. It's like you didn't even read the actual list posts and check the context in the game... | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On March 12 2015 00:12 Eden1892 wrote: God damn it once again I have a double at work and people are pushing me. I'll do what I can today to defend myself but this is pretty annoying. Damdred you called me town for my big reads post yesterday. What changed? You've said a couple times since that "this isn't my town game" but haven't covered why this is, and you kinda need to since you pretty openly called it my town game not that long ago and nothing has changed about my play since then. marv you upgraded me to town earlier, again nothing I've done since then has changed but now you moved me down to your lowest tier in your list post? Why? Why do you like Koshi's play more today when nothing has really changed about his either? And why do you keep handling JAT with kid gloves all of today, anyway? Koshi what are you doing man? Damdred could be silly and marv could be mafia but I'm pretty sure you aren't. You said I had "failed to show any form of inteligent argument within a conversation." What is that? Did you even read my big reads post man? C'mon. I have no idea how to even defend myself against some of this. I feel like JAT is probably still mafia for not even trying to figure things out (and should absolutely be the lynch today over me even if you suspect both of us), there's a decent chance marv is mafia because he should know better and he's handling JAT all weird. Third one idk yet Red is bad because 2 reasons: 1) Marv already explained why he likes my posting today better. It is in the thread. You have read the thread, yet you lie here. 2) My play is completely different today. It is kinda obvious. Again you lie. To answer the bolded: Yes, I read it and again you know that I read it. But I am referring to you not being interesting/engaged at all with people in 1 on 1 discussions.You spammed a couple times JAT is mafia. But when I was grilling JAT yesterday for multiple hours, what were you doing? Nothing. That is bad. If you want to be read green: Stop whining. Stop panicking. Start playing. tyvm. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
#2, sure some of what he said to JAT wasn't great, but his actual posting style isn't fundamentally different IMO. And maybe I'm biased since I'm under the gun but his arguments don't actually seem better, they seem worse | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 12 2015 00:22 Koshi wrote: Red is bad because 2 reasons: 1) Marv already explained why he likes my posting today better. It is in the thread. You have read the thread, yet you lie here. 2) My play is completely different today. It is kinda obvious. Again you lie. To answer the bolded: Yes, I read it and again you know that I read it. But I am referring to you not being interesting/engaged at all with people in 1 on 1 discussions.You spammed a couple times JAT is mafia. But when I was grilling JAT yesterday for multiple hours, what were you doing? Nothing. That is bad. If you want to be read green: Stop whining. Stop panicking. Start playing. tyvm. This is ridiculous Koshi. If you're gonna call my difference of opinion about your play today a "lie" then I'm just going to ignore you and convince the people who aren't you to lynch JAT. I didn't have to engage JAT because after I said he wasn't doing anything he still did nothing. Nothing changed for me to need to do anything. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
it's like me and koshi saying "1+1=2" and you going "no, it's 3" no, it's just 2. | ||
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marvellosity
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On March 12 2015 00:23 Eden1892 wrote: And what do you mean by #3? Town indicative of who? What you do with JAT is simple. You roast with fire until he does something productive. End of story. of me i always position myself well, that's why when i actually play properly as scum i am difficult to lynch even though my play is shit, i have the right stances on the right players at the right times. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 12 2015 00:26 marvellosity wrote: it's not a difference of opinion though it's like me and koshi saying "1+1=2" and you going "no, it's 3" no, it's just 2. whatever, I don't care to argue about this since Koshi is town you never told me why I moved down 2 tiers when I did nothing different between being put in tier 1 vs tier 3 | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On March 12 2015 00:32 Palmar wrote: http://www.pornhub.com/insights/50-shades-bdsm-searches/ lol. excellent | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On March 12 2015 00:33 Eden1892 wrote: whatever, I don't care to argue about this since Koshi is town you never told me why I moved down 2 tiers when I did nothing different between being put in tier 1 vs tier 3 fuck it yolo | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
lol or someone else who is going to be around theres a happy medium between chipmunk and broken record | ||
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