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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 11 2015 07:41 GMT
#1139
On March 11 2015 15:58 prplhz wrote:
why do you think rso wants to replace out?

man, this is not the game to be mixing up your subs
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 11 2015 07:41 GMT
#1140
ohhhh i get it
prp that's genius
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 11 2015 15:12 GMT
#1257
God damn it once again I have a double at work and people are pushing me. I'll do what I can today to defend myself but this is pretty annoying.

Damdred you called me town for my big reads post yesterday. What changed? You've said a couple times since that "this isn't my town game" but haven't covered why this is, and you kinda need to since you pretty openly called it my town game not that long ago and nothing has changed about my play since then.

marv you upgraded me to town earlier, again nothing I've done since then has changed but now you moved me down to your lowest tier in your list post? Why? Why do you like Koshi's play more today when nothing has really changed about his either? And why do you keep handling JAT with kid gloves all of today, anyway?

Koshi what are you doing man? Damdred could be silly and marv could be mafia but I'm pretty sure you aren't. You said I had "failed to show any form of inteligent argument within a conversation." What is that? Did you even read my big reads post man? C'mon.

I have no idea how to even defend myself against some of this. I feel like JAT is probably still mafia for not even trying to figure things out (and should absolutely be the lynch today over me even if you suspect both of us), there's a decent chance marv is mafia because he should know better and he's handling JAT all weird. Third one idk yet
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 11 2015 15:13 GMT
#1258
Like how the fuck am I mafia here. Someone summarize an actual case against me and try to make it make sense
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 11 2015 15:14 GMT
#1260
On March 12 2015 00:13 marvellosity wrote:
there is approx 0% chance i am mafia this game so i have ignored the rest of your post

Don't be a fucking donkey right now, even if you're town you know I can't be mafia either. I'm stunned that there are this many people who have played multiple games with me before and think "yep this is his mafia game"
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 11 2015 15:20 GMT
#1263
Koshi I had this huge reads list in direct response to Damdred:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/479775-xxx-mini-mafia-a-night-of-debauchery-18?page=38#760

If you want to talk about "conversational arguments" or whatever, this was 1/2 hr after Damdred posted his request. Given the length and time it took for me to see it I would consider that reasonably conversational

Part of that argument sucks to respond to because I haven't had a lot of direct conversations. I feel like I haven't needed them so far, and I've been cutting down on the "conversational reads" style to an extent because it turns me into a hyperactive squirrel. This is important for me b/c I'm sick of getting into postgames where I know to myself what my instincts were saying about people and I argue as much, and then people look at me like I'm crazy because I argued the other way in the thread. I want to take that next step and get to the point where people can clearly point to my scumreads, see my logic and lynch the people I want to lynch on a regular basis.

We done here? I'm not mafia.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 11 2015 15:22 GMT
#1264
On March 12 2015 00:17 marvellosity wrote:
alright i'll play nice

1. I thought you weren't capable of that sort of large post as mafia, LS showed you were
2. yesterday Koshi was 100% confirmation biasing jat for large stretches of time and at other points being pretty annoying (i believe i said as much). today he just gives reads and reasons and perspective on the game. tis different. i thought he was town yesterday also, i just *like* his play more today
3. i don't know what to do with jat, and this is very town indicative for me

Your argument #1 is terrible and a pretty big reason why I think you might be mafia. Look at the post I made in NYE vs the one in here. They're not even close to the same qualitatively. The one in NYE has like 3 reads in it on d3 and they're backed up almost entirely with superficial arguments. This one has nine on d1 with deeper arguments. It's like you didn't even read the actual list posts and check the context in the game...
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 11 2015 15:23 GMT
#1267
And what do you mean by #3? Town indicative of who? What you do with JAT is simple. You roast with fire until he does something productive. End of story.

#2, sure some of what he said to JAT wasn't great, but his actual posting style isn't fundamentally different IMO. And maybe I'm biased since I'm under the gun but his arguments don't actually seem better, they seem worse
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 11 2015 15:25 GMT
#1268
On March 12 2015 00:22 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2015 00:12 Eden1892 wrote:
God damn it once again I have a double at work and people are pushing me. I'll do what I can today to defend myself but this is pretty annoying.

Damdred you called me town for my big reads post yesterday. What changed? You've said a couple times since that "this isn't my town game" but haven't covered why this is, and you kinda need to since you pretty openly called it my town game not that long ago and nothing has changed about my play since then.

marv you upgraded me to town earlier, again nothing I've done since then has changed but now you moved me down to your lowest tier in your list post? Why? Why do you like Koshi's play more today when nothing has really changed about his either? And why do you keep handling JAT with kid gloves all of today, anyway?

Koshi what are you doing man? Damdred could be silly and marv could be mafia but I'm pretty sure you aren't. You said I had "failed to show any form of inteligent argument within a conversation." What is that? Did you even read my big reads post man? C'mon.

I have no idea how to even defend myself against some of this. I feel like JAT is probably still mafia for not even trying to figure things out (and should absolutely be the lynch today over me even if you suspect both of us), there's a decent chance marv is mafia because he should know better and he's handling JAT all weird. Third one idk yet

Red is bad because 2 reasons:
1) Marv already explained why he likes my posting today better. It is in the thread. You have read the thread, yet you lie here.
2) My play is completely different today. It is kinda obvious. Again you lie.

To answer the bolded:
Yes, I read it and again you know that I read it. But I am referring to you not being interesting/engaged at all with people in 1 on 1 discussions.You spammed a couple times JAT is mafia. But when I was grilling JAT yesterday for multiple hours, what were you doing? Nothing. That is bad.

If you want to be read green:
Stop whining. Stop panicking. Start playing. tyvm.

This is ridiculous Koshi. If you're gonna call my difference of opinion about your play today a "lie" then I'm just going to ignore you and convince the people who aren't you to lynch JAT.

I didn't have to engage JAT because after I said he wasn't doing anything he still did nothing. Nothing changed for me to need to do anything.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 11 2015 15:33 GMT
#1276
On March 12 2015 00:26 marvellosity wrote:
it's not a difference of opinion though

it's like me and koshi saying "1+1=2"

and you going

"no, it's 3"

no, it's just 2.

whatever, I don't care to argue about this since Koshi is town

you never told me why I moved down 2 tiers when I did nothing different between being put in tier 1 vs tier 3
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 11 2015 15:40 GMT
#1283
On March 12 2015 00:36 rsoultin wrote:
eeeeeden play with me :/

lol or someone else who is going to be around

theres a happy medium between chipmunk and broken record

What do you want to talk about?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 11 2015 15:41 GMT
#1285
On March 12 2015 00:34 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2015 00:33 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 12 2015 00:26 marvellosity wrote:
it's not a difference of opinion though

it's like me and koshi saying "1+1=2"

and you going

"no, it's 3"

no, it's just 2.

whatever, I don't care to argue about this since Koshi is town

you never told me why I moved down 2 tiers when I did nothing different between being put in tier 1 vs tier 3

fuck it yolo

This is absolute trash. You are better than this
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 11 2015 15:49 GMT
#1288
On March 12 2015 00:46 Palmar wrote:
like I haven't even read the arguments against you. It just looks like people want to lynch you.

Repeat what I just said to marv except replace "are" with "can be" - the trolling is getting hella old
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 11 2015 15:57 GMT
#1291
Palmar is marv mafia iyo? The more I think about it the more it makes sense and I rather ignore my flow chart and lynch him
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 11 2015 15:58 GMT
#1293
On March 12 2015 00:55 marvellosity wrote:
tbh i prefer to lynch rayn or maybe jat over eden. eden can move back up a tier

Wtf was that? Now I'm back up to where I initially was???
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 11 2015 16:09 GMT
#1295
Why not? Cause I'm clear town ya dingus
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 11 2015 18:08 GMT
#1344
On March 12 2015 02:35 marvellosity wrote:
For reference: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477225-horn-of-africa-mini-mafia-voting-thread?user=Eden1892

Oh you mean the game that Hapa started a glorified callout thread over and that I keep getting shit for ever since. Yeah I have no incentive whatsoever to try to improve my play from that
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 11 2015 18:12 GMT
#1345
Getting really sick of this shit where I have to be a spastic squirrel on covaine that makes the game unplayable for my team if I want to be town eead
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 11 2015 18:29 GMT
#1351
On March 12 2015 03:15 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2015 03:12 Eden1892 wrote:
Getting really sick of this shit where I have to be a spastic squirrel on covaine that makes the game unplayable for my team if I want to be town eead

nope. You have to actually present reads that go beyond meta.
You have to interact with your scumreads.

JAT enters thread, Eden is nowhere.
JAT leaves thread, Eden is back to complain.

*yawn*

I have work dumbass I already said that. Phone was taken away til break

I already talked about my relative lack of interaction. I was able to scum read JAT for a good reason without interacting with him. If he doesn't do anything to change his behavior then why would I need to interact with him further?

Also wtf is this about meta?
1) if meta works why do I need to do anything else?
2) my top scum read and my ray townread aren't meta based so I'm not doing just meta

Koshi you are making ridiculously unfair arguments that mostly don't even have a basis in reality. Please for the live if god stop
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 11 2015 18:30 GMT
#1353
On March 12 2015 03:26 Koshi wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/479775-xxx-mini-mafia-a-night-of-debauchery-18?user=Eden1892&page=5

This page has way to much defensive and reactive stuff in it and almost nothing proactive and aggressive in it. One does not have to have many pages to show he wants to find his mafia and solve the game. But how many posts of Eden are about finding mafia?

We are approaching deadline and he is whining and not finding mafia. In the PM game he was also whining before we lynched him D1.

LS can you remember a game in which Eden whines and is town? Like constantly boohooing?

You are enraging that's why. This game fucking sucks
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
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