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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
March 20 2015 14:58 GMT
#6001
Things that Koshi did since d1

Hard tunnel marv
hard tunnel prplhz
hard defend onegu

sit in the game wanting to lynch people he thinks are town
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
March 20 2015 14:58 GMT
#6002
Kind of glad you're not good more often than you are because you're an absolute pain in the ass when you're proven right.
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 20 2015 15:00 GMT
#6003
On March 20 2015 23:54 marvellosity wrote:
or let's put it another way

you have 3 players

2 are going nuts proposing and doing all kinds of weird shit
1 isn't

which is mafia?

etc

I am not sure if you are calling me mafia here or what?
What am i supposed to say? I am not going to make up some shit like Palmar (his towncase on himself is explaining why he has called townies mafia?!?!?! -- like who cares?). I have done what i have done in this game, iknow one of Palmar / Eden HAS to be scum. There is nothing i need to say.
table for two on a tv tray
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 15:00 GMT
#6004
Hey guys. Focus. Koshi ain't changin don't waste your time.

If both of you feel in your hearts that it's ray why not just vote for him?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 20 2015 15:01 GMT
#6005
okay then?

##Vote raynpelikoneet
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 20 2015 15:04 GMT
#6006
On March 21 2015 00:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 23:54 marvellosity wrote:
or let's put it another way

you have 3 players

2 are going nuts proposing and doing all kinds of weird shit
1 isn't

which is mafia?

etc

I am not sure if you are calling me mafia here or what?
What am i supposed to say? I am not going to make up some shit like Palmar (his towncase on himself is explaining why he has called townies mafia?!?!?! -- like who cares?). I have done what i have done in this game, iknow one of Palmar / Eden HAS to be scum. There is nothing i need to say.

DONT USE LOGIC.

PLEASE RAYN

CALL PRPLHZ MAFIA
CALL KOSHI MAFIA
CALL MARV MAFIA


You might get lynched.
I had a good night of sleep.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 15:05 GMT
#6007
Why I think ray could be mafia:
On March 20 2015 03:55 Eden1892 wrote:
(2) ...man, (2) is hard too. I can see the necessity of ray busing JAT. That's not terribly difficult to figure out. ray was on the chopping block for all of d1 and then JAT started getting on the block late, so it makes some sense for ray to bus JAT; whichever one isn't lynched looks better for the push (either ray looks better for pushing mafia or JAT looks better for being the target of lynched mafia's final gambit at survival). But it seems like he wouldn't want to switch off me and onto Onegu. I probably need to look at when he moved to Onegu to figure it out, because my recollection was that Fecalfeast moved first, marv moved second, then ray. It's still weird, because I don't know why ray would feel the necessity of lynching Onegu there. Maybe he figured Onegu was going down soon and wanted the credit for endgame? It makes sense to make a final bus move at MYLO-1 instead of at MYLO, because people don't expect a bus at MYLO-1, whereas they'll believe anything about MYLO.

I don't feel like I can make a hella convincing case about (2), but it seems like the best shot based on what I said. I don't believe that marv would be the framer or that there would be two godfathers; if I'm entertaining a setup like that then it's prplhz for sure over marv. And Palmar's town case is really fucking convincing. I think he's town.

##UNVOTE
##VOTE: raynpelikoneet


Why ray's push on Onegu seems like a bus to me:
On March 20 2015 04:33 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 04:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 20 2015 04:24 Eden1892 wrote:
Why did you sheep marv onto someone you had made a strong town case for???

because i can be wrong and he can be right.

This is a really bad reason and I don't think I believe it. This is worse than my reason and my reason was pretty bad. I can at least excuse my reason with a bout of irrational frustration. You're treating it like a calculated decision, which makes no sense for someone with a strong townread to do without any engagement with marv about the issue.

I want everyone to go through ray's filter and ctrl-f "onegu" for me. This is roughly what you'll find:

- A lot of unexplained flip-flops early on Onegu. ray starts off townreading Onegu early, then completely retracts his townread, claiming that if Onegu were mafia, Onegu would want to avoid townreading ray but also avoid scumreading him either. Onegu responds by claiming ray is 100% town, which apparently does not affect ray's read on Onegu.
- ray briefly acknowledges that Onegu's vote "looks good" for him, but then throughout d2 is talking about Onegu being a good lynch and ritoky being town.
- Despite the above, ray sheeps marv onto the guy he had a strong townread on without debating the issue with marv first. He also never votes for Onegu, despite now trying to claim credit for pushing Onegu. Additionally, he never makes a concerted push on Onegu d2.
- He comes out voting for Onegu immediately on d3. Given the above, this looks like a bus he planned in the night. He ends up flipping onto me when he thinks he can get me lynched, but then moves back as soon as the tide shifts toward Onegu at the end.

This to me looks like someone who didn't know what to do with his partner early, then looked for an out to not lynch his partner, then decided to commit to the bus on his partner. The evolution of this read is more than a little sketchy.

ray, you're going to need to explain how your read evolved on Onegu like Palmar explained how his d1 reads evolved.


+ night actions

=

vote ray please
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
March 20 2015 15:05 GMT
#6008
rayn I have to indulge my paranoia, it's a must
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 20 2015 15:05 GMT
#6009
Yeah lynch me because other people are more scummy.
FUCKING LOGIC!

Like i fucking hate playing mafia right now. I might need a break.
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 20 2015 15:05 GMT
#6010
Really. The solution to win this game is to discard everything that happened. Discard a blue cop claim in a game which obviously has a cop.

And then start calling the greenchecks and the cop mafia for a couple of posts.

Then when the cop says you are a retard emo out.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
March 20 2015 15:06 GMT
#6011
On March 20 2015 23:52 marvellosity wrote:
Like, I have to say the things that bug me, because otherwise I will feel bad after the game.

1. The day 1 wagons (rayn counterwagon thing)
2. rayn wasn't NK after claiming doctor and leading lynch on mafia (??)
3. rayn called Damdred mafia and then said "he had no idea why people think Damdred is mafia"
4. rayn's certainty on the mafia vs how he dealt with other people.

4 is actually a new point. It kinda relates to Onegu/prplhz.

rayn was ALWAYS hard on Onegu (d3). And I am a nervous nelly, so I brought things up that made me scared. Onegu joking around. Onegu not caring about his life (apparently). But rayn did not even give pause to these things. rayn did not give pause to anything Koshi said. And Koshi was certain town and made some quite convincing points on Onegu, but no doubts, no wavering.

But with prplhz, prplhz was red too. But so much umming and ahing about him. Actually looking at the other side. Seeing what he did that was town, and what was mafia. Doubts.

Of coure all this might just be excellent play. But it may be... ... yeah.

^

like it's impossible to answer this, it's just something i have to reconcile myself
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 20 2015 15:06 GMT
#6012
##unvote
##vote raynpelikoneet

i am done. do it then fuckers.
i hope mafia wins.
table for two on a tv tray
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
March 20 2015 15:07 GMT
#6013
i'm not even voting for you...
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 20 2015 15:07 GMT
#6014
jsut that you know marv i am going to call you so bad, so bad.
table for two on a tv tray
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
March 20 2015 15:07 GMT
#6015
it is absolutely not bad to explore every single avenue left open to me at this time.

not a single bit
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 15:07 GMT
#6016
On March 21 2015 00:05 Koshi wrote:
Really. The solution to win this game is to discard everything that happened. Discard a blue cop claim in a game which obviously has a cop.

And then start calling the greenchecks and the cop mafia for a couple of posts.

Then when the cop says you are a retard emo out.

I never called cop or greenchecks mafia ._.

I raised them as possibilities then quickly discarded and went to ray who btw isn't a cop check
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 20 2015 15:08 GMT
#6017
just for even ENTERTAINING the idea.
And i am going to policy lynch the best player in the game every game so people don't need to be paranoid.
table for two on a tv tray
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
March 20 2015 15:09 GMT
#6018
lol, it's the magical selfvote!

Why can't more people be like me and at least try to entertain while under the pressure of being lynched?

Do you even know how easy it would be for me just rage out because people don't townread me right now?
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
March 20 2015 15:09 GMT
#6019
it's not bad for entertaining it

the reasons i laid out are not bad. they are worth thinking about, at least.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 20 2015 15:09 GMT
#6020
On March 20 2015 05:30 Eden1892 wrote:
Do not ever lynch Palmar until someone rebuts his big townie case.
Do not ever lynch marv because if there's a framer it's prplhz.
Do not ever lynch Koshi because he never fakeclaims cop there.
Probably do not ever lynch prplhz because it's doubtful there is a framer. If ray is town then lynch him but only if ray is town.

Eden wants to lynch prplhz before Palmar.
I had a good night of sleep.
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