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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 17 2015 12:24 GMT
#4501
On March 17 2015 21:23 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2015 21:22 marvellosity wrote:
although I think his rayn-read would count as trying to make himself look good.

but i possibly agree with the bit in the post above

No it isn't. He does it as town always. always. It has nothing to do with being mafia.

that would be the reason to do it as mafia, dearest.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 17 2015 12:24 GMT
#4502
at least 3 people in the game have mentioned how Onegu's rayn-read is weird in certain respects koshi
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 17 2015 12:24 GMT
#4503
I have 23 page filter. I am officially a spammer now.
Computer says mafia
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 17 2015 12:25 GMT
#4504
On March 17 2015 21:23 Palmar wrote:
Also marv's townread is kind of why I don't wanna lynch prplhz. While I may have overestimated the strength of that read, there is almost no way I can believe there exists a scenario where prplhz is mafia and marv town, so by definition it's better to kill marv first.

You are a dumbass. Because marv his read on ritoky was 100% as well right?????????????????

marv can be wrong on a townread as town. What? He is only right on fucking townreads and could be wrong on scumreads? Go away.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 17 2015 12:25 GMT
#4505
On March 17 2015 21:24 marvellosity wrote:
at least 3 people in the game have mentioned how Onegu's rayn-read is weird in certain respects koshi

YES IT IS WEIRD. NOW WHY IS IT MAFIA IF HE DOES IT ALL THE TIME AS TOWN??????


WEIRD = MAFIA???????????
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 17 2015 12:26 GMT
#4506
Hey you do this weird thing always as town.


Guess it makes you mafia!!!!
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 17 2015 12:26 GMT
#4507
Hey you claim VT always as town.

I think that is weird.

FUCK

ONEGU IS MAFIA!!!!!
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 17 2015 12:26 GMT
#4508
Game solved
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 17 2015 12:27 GMT
#4509
On March 17 2015 21:25 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2015 21:24 marvellosity wrote:
at least 3 people in the game have mentioned how Onegu's rayn-read is weird in certain respects koshi

YES IT IS WEIRD. NOW WHY IS IT MAFIA IF HE DOES IT ALL THE TIME AS TOWN??????


WEIRD = MAFIA???????????

the argument is that his rayn read does not look like how he normally brings his rayn soul read.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 17 2015 12:28 GMT
#4510
On March 17 2015 21:27 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2015 21:25 Koshi wrote:
On March 17 2015 21:24 marvellosity wrote:
at least 3 people in the game have mentioned how Onegu's rayn-read is weird in certain respects koshi

YES IT IS WEIRD. NOW WHY IS IT MAFIA IF HE DOES IT ALL THE TIME AS TOWN??????


WEIRD = MAFIA???????????

the argument is that his rayn read does not look like how he normally brings his rayn soul read.

Show me
I had a good night of sleep.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 17 2015 12:30 GMT
#4511
On March 17 2015 21:25 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2015 21:23 Palmar wrote:
Also marv's townread is kind of why I don't wanna lynch prplhz. While I may have overestimated the strength of that read, there is almost no way I can believe there exists a scenario where prplhz is mafia and marv town, so by definition it's better to kill marv first.

You are a dumbass. Because marv his read on ritoky was 100% as well right?????????????????

marv can be wrong on a townread as town. What? He is only right on fucking townreads and could be wrong on scumreads? Go away.

Eh it's not that simple.

Here, I'll show you an example:

On March 10 2015 20:20 Palmar wrote:
ok I'm done with today.

option a) lynch prplhz
option b) lynch JAT

I don't particularly care which one. They can find out between themselves.


I wrote this on day 1, and to further clarify the prplhz part, there's this:

On March 10 2015 19:45 Palmar wrote:
Rayn I actually thought was town based on his "everyone who has posted is town". While I thought the JAT thing was uncertain I actually really liked the idea that everyone who had posted at that time was town. Then it turned out to be some weird trap play he hasn't pushed at all since so now I'm not so sure. I don't think I want to lynch him yet, but I'm very much conflicted on his alignment.

I liked marv's entrance, it felt unforced. Aside from that he's been a bit shit, but nothing out of the ordinary. No reason to tunnel right now. Slightly leaning town.

Onegu best player. I honestly have no idea what he is.

prplhz has been mega shit. Like he's actually a really good shot at being mafia because he had literally nothing exciting to say when he entered the game. It wasn't even funny, and generally mafia tend to be far less funny than townies.

rsoultin idk. I think I recall some semi-townie posts from early game. But I'm not gonna make a call one way or the other.

JAT. Leaning mafia, but I always lean mafia on him. he's not a hard read though when the game picks up. If prplhz shows up I'm more than ok with lynching JAT.

LS town. I'm pretty sure LS is so transparent that if he ever rolls mafia he'll just straight up admit to it. I loved his entrance and he is probably my strongest townread atm. His reaction to my scumclaim basically confirms him town to me.

ritoky feels actually sort of townie to me. I think this is mostly a tone read, his jokes feel like he really doesn't give a shit I guess.

Koshi. Got mad that he was being voted. Then after getting mad he did what we wanted him to do anyway which either means he's massively submissive or mafia.

Eden I don't know.

Damdred is probably town. I liked him in the early game so I think we should remain friends.


(somewhere in between I actually voted JAT, I have no idea why I did that because to me it looks like I wanted to kill prplhz more at the time...)

Marv responded to this here:

On March 10 2015 20:22 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 20:20 Palmar wrote:
ok I'm done with today.

option a) lynch prplhz
option b) lynch JAT

I don't particularly care which one. They can find out between themselves.

I don't like your prplhz read very much.


Notice how his response is not "Why do you think prplhz is mafia, can you elaborate" or "actually this is why prplhz is town palmar". It's a simple shut-down answer. The only reason marv would make a shut-down answer is.

a) Because he's certain that I must be mafia and doesn't want to talk to me
b) Because he's certain prplhz is town

Marv has since downplayed the strength of the read, but I feel that throughout the game his townread on prplhz has been very, very strong and beyond both questioning and reassessment. His ritoky read was more of a "well ok here's why he could be mafia, but he could also be town".
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 17 2015 12:32 GMT
#4512
like in either way, marv's answer implies he's certain (and if he's mafia he is of course gonna be certain).
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 17 2015 12:36 GMT
#4513
On March 17 2015 21:28 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2015 21:27 marvellosity wrote:
On March 17 2015 21:25 Koshi wrote:
On March 17 2015 21:24 marvellosity wrote:
at least 3 people in the game have mentioned how Onegu's rayn-read is weird in certain respects koshi

YES IT IS WEIRD. NOW WHY IS IT MAFIA IF HE DOES IT ALL THE TIME AS TOWN??????


WEIRD = MAFIA???????????

the argument is that his rayn read does not look like how he normally brings his rayn soul read.

Show me

that's not MY argument btw. what I said is that his read was planned. Let's take this hypothetical situaion.

1. I announced I'm gonna soul-read marv
2. marv dies (literally)
3. I announce marv is scum/town for dying

... (this got dark fast)

The problem is that he knew he was going to make the soul read, before any of the parameters that he was going to use to make the read were present in the thread.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 17 2015 12:37 GMT
#4514
On March 17 2015 21:28 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2015 21:27 marvellosity wrote:
On March 17 2015 21:25 Koshi wrote:
On March 17 2015 21:24 marvellosity wrote:
at least 3 people in the game have mentioned how Onegu's rayn-read is weird in certain respects koshi

YES IT IS WEIRD. NOW WHY IS IT MAFIA IF HE DOES IT ALL THE TIME AS TOWN??????


WEIRD = MAFIA???????????

the argument is that his rayn read does not look like how he normally brings his rayn soul read.

Show me

Like, in this game he went "rayn is definitely town" ----> reasons much later

Palmar pointed out the reasons he gave later didn't exist in the first place when he said it, also me and rayn pointed out the way he listed things did not make out his town game

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477307-slytherin-mini-mafia?user=Onegu&view=all

ctrl-f "rayn" - Onegu does not immediately go for rayn soul-read with certainty, he actually converses a lot with rayn first, and even questions someone else's townread on rayn: + Show Spoiler +
On February 08 2015 06:10 Onegu wrote:
Also why is Rayn a easy town read this early his first post in fantasy football was slam is town...

Then only later on he calls rayn town (with game-related reason)

tldr: this game, hard townread -> reasons later
that game, says he can read rayn -> interacts with rayn -> interacts with others about rayn -> gives reasons for townread
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 17 2015 12:39 GMT
#4515
I am not going to switch my vote unless something drastic happens.
table for two on a tv tray
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 17 2015 12:44 GMT
#4516
On March 17 2015 21:32 Palmar wrote:
like in either way, marv's answer implies he's certain (and if he's mafia he is of course gonna be certain).

what i actually like most is that i didn't question the jat read.

so if prplhz is town then those were excellent posts i made.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 17 2015 12:49 GMT
#4517
On March 17 2015 21:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not going to switch my vote unless something drastic happens.

can you at least talk to koshi about why he thinks onegu is town?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 17 2015 12:57 GMT
#4518
On March 17 2015 21:37 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2015 21:28 Koshi wrote:
On March 17 2015 21:27 marvellosity wrote:
On March 17 2015 21:25 Koshi wrote:
On March 17 2015 21:24 marvellosity wrote:
at least 3 people in the game have mentioned how Onegu's rayn-read is weird in certain respects koshi

YES IT IS WEIRD. NOW WHY IS IT MAFIA IF HE DOES IT ALL THE TIME AS TOWN??????


WEIRD = MAFIA???????????

the argument is that his rayn read does not look like how he normally brings his rayn soul read.

Show me

Like, in this game he went "rayn is definitely town" ----> reasons much later

Palmar pointed out the reasons he gave later didn't exist in the first place when he said it, also me and rayn pointed out the way he listed things did not make out his town game

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477307-slytherin-mini-mafia?user=Onegu&view=all

ctrl-f "rayn" - Onegu does not immediately go for rayn soul-read with certainty, he actually converses a lot with rayn first, and even questions someone else's townread on rayn: + Show Spoiler +
On February 08 2015 06:10 Onegu wrote:
Also why is Rayn a easy town read this early his first post in fantasy football was slam is town...

Then only later on he calls rayn town (with game-related reason)

tldr: this game, hard townread -> reasons later
that game, says he can read rayn -> interacts with rayn -> interacts with others about rayn -> gives reasons for townread

So this time Onegu made his read like a townie would??

And that's suspicious?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 17 2015 12:58 GMT
#4519
On March 17 2015 21:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not going to switch my vote unless something drastic happens.

Yes, because that will happen if you are wrong.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 17 2015 12:58 GMT
#4520
On March 17 2015 21:49 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2015 21:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not going to switch my vote unless something drastic happens.

can you at least talk to koshi about why he thinks onegu is town?

No. That would actually involve looking at Onegu and prplhz their filters besides D1.
I had a good night of sleep.
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