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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On March 17 2015 21:23 Koshi wrote: No it isn't. He does it as town always. always. It has nothing to do with being mafia. that would be the reason to do it as mafia, dearest. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On March 17 2015 21:23 Palmar wrote: Also marv's townread is kind of why I don't wanna lynch prplhz. While I may have overestimated the strength of that read, there is almost no way I can believe there exists a scenario where prplhz is mafia and marv town, so by definition it's better to kill marv first. You are a dumbass. Because marv his read on ritoky was 100% as well right????????????????? marv can be wrong on a townread as town. What? He is only right on fucking townreads and could be wrong on scumreads? Go away. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On March 17 2015 21:24 marvellosity wrote: at least 3 people in the game have mentioned how Onegu's rayn-read is weird in certain respects koshi YES IT IS WEIRD. NOW WHY IS IT MAFIA IF HE DOES IT ALL THE TIME AS TOWN?????? WEIRD = MAFIA??????????? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Guess it makes you mafia!!!! | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
I think that is weird. FUCK ONEGU IS MAFIA!!!!! | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On March 17 2015 21:25 Koshi wrote: YES IT IS WEIRD. NOW WHY IS IT MAFIA IF HE DOES IT ALL THE TIME AS TOWN?????? WEIRD = MAFIA??????????? the argument is that his rayn read does not look like how he normally brings his rayn soul read. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On March 17 2015 21:27 marvellosity wrote: the argument is that his rayn read does not look like how he normally brings his rayn soul read. Show me | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
On March 17 2015 21:25 Koshi wrote: You are a dumbass. Because marv his read on ritoky was 100% as well right????????????????? marv can be wrong on a townread as town. What? He is only right on fucking townreads and could be wrong on scumreads? Go away. Eh it's not that simple. Here, I'll show you an example: On March 10 2015 20:20 Palmar wrote: ok I'm done with today. option a) lynch prplhz option b) lynch JAT I don't particularly care which one. They can find out between themselves. I wrote this on day 1, and to further clarify the prplhz part, there's this: On March 10 2015 19:45 Palmar wrote: Rayn I actually thought was town based on his "everyone who has posted is town". While I thought the JAT thing was uncertain I actually really liked the idea that everyone who had posted at that time was town. Then it turned out to be some weird trap play he hasn't pushed at all since so now I'm not so sure. I don't think I want to lynch him yet, but I'm very much conflicted on his alignment. I liked marv's entrance, it felt unforced. Aside from that he's been a bit shit, but nothing out of the ordinary. No reason to tunnel right now. Slightly leaning town. Onegu best player. I honestly have no idea what he is. prplhz has been mega shit. Like he's actually a really good shot at being mafia because he had literally nothing exciting to say when he entered the game. It wasn't even funny, and generally mafia tend to be far less funny than townies. rsoultin idk. I think I recall some semi-townie posts from early game. But I'm not gonna make a call one way or the other. JAT. Leaning mafia, but I always lean mafia on him. he's not a hard read though when the game picks up. If prplhz shows up I'm more than ok with lynching JAT. LS town. I'm pretty sure LS is so transparent that if he ever rolls mafia he'll just straight up admit to it. I loved his entrance and he is probably my strongest townread atm. His reaction to my scumclaim basically confirms him town to me. ritoky feels actually sort of townie to me. I think this is mostly a tone read, his jokes feel like he really doesn't give a shit I guess. Koshi. Got mad that he was being voted. Then after getting mad he did what we wanted him to do anyway which either means he's massively submissive or mafia. Eden I don't know. Damdred is probably town. I liked him in the early game so I think we should remain friends. (somewhere in between I actually voted JAT, I have no idea why I did that because to me it looks like I wanted to kill prplhz more at the time...) Marv responded to this here: On March 10 2015 20:22 marvellosity wrote: I don't like your prplhz read very much. Notice how his response is not "Why do you think prplhz is mafia, can you elaborate" or "actually this is why prplhz is town palmar". It's a simple shut-down answer. The only reason marv would make a shut-down answer is. a) Because he's certain that I must be mafia and doesn't want to talk to me b) Because he's certain prplhz is town Marv has since downplayed the strength of the read, but I feel that throughout the game his townread on prplhz has been very, very strong and beyond both questioning and reassessment. His ritoky read was more of a "well ok here's why he could be mafia, but he could also be town". | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
that's not MY argument btw. what I said is that his read was planned. Let's take this hypothetical situaion. 1. I announced I'm gonna soul-read marv 2. marv dies (literally) 3. I announce marv is scum/town for dying ... (this got dark fast) The problem is that he knew he was going to make the soul read, before any of the parameters that he was going to use to make the read were present in the thread. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Like, in this game he went "rayn is definitely town" ----> reasons much later Palmar pointed out the reasons he gave later didn't exist in the first place when he said it, also me and rayn pointed out the way he listed things did not make out his town game http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477307-slytherin-mini-mafia?user=Onegu&view=all ctrl-f "rayn" - Onegu does not immediately go for rayn soul-read with certainty, he actually converses a lot with rayn first, and even questions someone else's townread on rayn: + Show Spoiler + On February 08 2015 06:10 Onegu wrote: Also why is Rayn a easy town read this early his first post in fantasy football was slam is town... tldr: this game, hard townread -> reasons later that game, says he can read rayn -> interacts with rayn -> interacts with others about rayn -> gives reasons for townread | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On March 17 2015 21:32 Palmar wrote: like in either way, marv's answer implies he's certain (and if he's mafia he is of course gonna be certain). what i actually like most is that i didn't question the jat read. so if prplhz is town then those were excellent posts i made. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On March 17 2015 21:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not going to switch my vote unless something drastic happens. can you at least talk to koshi about why he thinks onegu is town? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On March 17 2015 21:37 marvellosity wrote: Like, in this game he went "rayn is definitely town" ----> reasons much later Palmar pointed out the reasons he gave later didn't exist in the first place when he said it, also me and rayn pointed out the way he listed things did not make out his town game http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477307-slytherin-mini-mafia?user=Onegu&view=all ctrl-f "rayn" - Onegu does not immediately go for rayn soul-read with certainty, he actually converses a lot with rayn first, and even questions someone else's townread on rayn: + Show Spoiler + On February 08 2015 06:10 Onegu wrote: Also why is Rayn a easy town read this early his first post in fantasy football was slam is town... tldr: this game, hard townread -> reasons later that game, says he can read rayn -> interacts with rayn -> interacts with others about rayn -> gives reasons for townread So this time Onegu made his read like a townie would?? And that's suspicious? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On March 17 2015 21:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not going to switch my vote unless something drastic happens. Yes, because that will happen if you are wrong. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On March 17 2015 21:49 marvellosity wrote: can you at least talk to koshi about why he thinks onegu is town? No. That would actually involve looking at Onegu and prplhz their filters besides D1. | ||
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