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On March 13 2015 20:01 Koshi wrote:
The only people who would kill rsoultin are:
Onegu who rng'ed it.
ritoky because clearly he was surprised about the commotion.
Palmar because he let either Onegu or ritoky do it.
Marv because he is non committal this entire game.
I do like me some RNG
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Koshi check the differences in his questioning here vs Student VI and tell me you don't see something to it please. All I heard was ritoky and Onegu boohooing it for no real reason.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 13 2015 13:32 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2015 13:22 Damdred wrote:
You are terribad if you are town here Eden seriously.
Damdred doesn't pressure you or rsoultin hrmmmm. Both of you had strange interactions between yourselves, I pinged out rsoultin day before town read rsoultin and obviously if your interactions are weird and I think one mafia has to be between you it has to be YOU!
I've also tried to figure out why you did things, but you decided to go full robik at this point instead of having an actual discussion I asked about the JAT thing and you decided to go full rage mode or full retard idk which.
hard to do anything with oneg when he's literally hundred pages behind at points never in thread with me? That's really a non point honestly
Like this whole case is bullshit and you should feel bad cause I'm never getting lynched You haven't tried to figure out what I'm doing at all. Here is the comprehensive list of questions you've asked me since you started calling my play weird during n1 and before the post you just replied to: Show nested quote +On March 13 2015 08:40 Damdred wrote:On March 13 2015 08:39 Eden1892 wrote:On March 13 2015 08:39 Damdred wrote:
Hmmmm people Eden isn't reading the thread? wtf are you talking about You are ignoring Palmar saying he wasn't actually blue I believe? You are not trying to figure out what I'm doing. Don't even try to act like it. This is what you look like when you have someone you think is suspicious and you're trying to figure out what they're doing: Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 03:08 Damdred wrote:
Well art, what did you think of some of my conclussions and things I drew from my vca? Who do you disagree with most besides yourself or who would you switch yourself with? Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 03:17 Damdred wrote:On February 27 2015 03:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I don't think you're wrong on me, I know you're wrong on me. I've read my role PM.
I think you're wrong on either Tormented or Snarfs, maybe both. I've got you kel yamato eden and tron as town. Do you think i'm right on SL and Node? which is more likely do you think? i'm leaning more towards node probably Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 03:23 Damdred wrote:
Do you not think that snarfs post with all his reads is something mafia probably wouldn't do?
Also why did you vote for snarfs with yamato before deciding yamato was town after you had pushed him most of the day? Also he was the primary push on him I believe in the thread at that point. Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 03:28 Damdred wrote:On February 27 2015 03:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On February 27 2015 03:23 Damdred wrote:
Do you not think that snarfs post with all his reads is something mafia probably wouldn't do?
Also why did you vote for snarfs with yamato before deciding yamato was town after you had pushed him most of the day? Also he was the primary push on him I believe in the thread at that point. I didn't see anything new in his reads list. Rehashing what you've said already in order to get another very viable lynch target lynched seems very easy. Because my problem with Yamato was that he hadn't done anything other than a weak case on Tormented which he backed up on when I started pressuring him and flinging suspicions at me. When I read his filter, I saw him doing a lot of pushing and prodding, plus the mutual wave-yamato townreads helped. It looks like in yoru filter you voted before you looked into yamato? Look at the questions you've asked me since your analysis. Compare them to the questions you've asked Artanis since your analysis. How can you honestly say that you're trying to figure me out with anywhere near the same rigor as you were in that game?
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On March 13 2015 20:02 Eden1892 wrote:Koshi check the differences in his questioning here vs Student VI and tell me you don't see something to it please. All I heard was ritoky and Onegu boohooing it for no real reason. + Show Spoiler +On March 13 2015 13:32 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2015 13:22 Damdred wrote:
You are terribad if you are town here Eden seriously.
Damdred doesn't pressure you or rsoultin hrmmmm. Both of you had strange interactions between yourselves, I pinged out rsoultin day before town read rsoultin and obviously if your interactions are weird and I think one mafia has to be between you it has to be YOU!
I've also tried to figure out why you did things, but you decided to go full robik at this point instead of having an actual discussion I asked about the JAT thing and you decided to go full rage mode or full retard idk which.
hard to do anything with oneg when he's literally hundred pages behind at points never in thread with me? That's really a non point honestly
Like this whole case is bullshit and you should feel bad cause I'm never getting lynched You haven't tried to figure out what I'm doing at all. Here is the comprehensive list of questions you've asked me since you started calling my play weird during n1 and before the post you just replied to: Show nested quote +On March 13 2015 08:40 Damdred wrote:On March 13 2015 08:39 Eden1892 wrote:On March 13 2015 08:39 Damdred wrote:
Hmmmm people Eden isn't reading the thread? wtf are you talking about You are ignoring Palmar saying he wasn't actually blue I believe? You are not trying to figure out what I'm doing. Don't even try to act like it. This is what you look like when you have someone you think is suspicious and you're trying to figure out what they're doing: Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 03:08 Damdred wrote:
Well art, what did you think of some of my conclussions and things I drew from my vca? Who do you disagree with most besides yourself or who would you switch yourself with? Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 03:17 Damdred wrote:On February 27 2015 03:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I don't think you're wrong on me, I know you're wrong on me. I've read my role PM.
I think you're wrong on either Tormented or Snarfs, maybe both. I've got you kel yamato eden and tron as town. Do you think i'm right on SL and Node? which is more likely do you think? i'm leaning more towards node probably Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 03:23 Damdred wrote:
Do you not think that snarfs post with all his reads is something mafia probably wouldn't do?
Also why did you vote for snarfs with yamato before deciding yamato was town after you had pushed him most of the day? Also he was the primary push on him I believe in the thread at that point. Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 03:28 Damdred wrote:On February 27 2015 03:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On February 27 2015 03:23 Damdred wrote:
Do you not think that snarfs post with all his reads is something mafia probably wouldn't do?
Also why did you vote for snarfs with yamato before deciding yamato was town after you had pushed him most of the day? Also he was the primary push on him I believe in the thread at that point. I didn't see anything new in his reads list. Rehashing what you've said already in order to get another very viable lynch target lynched seems very easy. Because my problem with Yamato was that he hadn't done anything other than a weak case on Tormented which he backed up on when I started pressuring him and flinging suspicions at me. When I read his filter, I saw him doing a lot of pushing and prodding, plus the mutual wave-yamato townreads helped. It looks like in yoru filter you voted before you looked into yamato? Look at the questions you've asked me since your analysis. Compare them to the questions you've asked Artanis since your analysis. How can you honestly say that you're trying to figure me out with anywhere near the same rigor as you were in that game?
I said 5 not 6
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On March 13 2015 20:02 Eden1892 wrote:Koshi check the differences in his questioning here vs Student VI and tell me you don't see something to it please. All I heard was ritoky and Onegu boohooing it for no real reason. + Show Spoiler +On March 13 2015 13:32 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2015 13:22 Damdred wrote:
You are terribad if you are town here Eden seriously.
Damdred doesn't pressure you or rsoultin hrmmmm. Both of you had strange interactions between yourselves, I pinged out rsoultin day before town read rsoultin and obviously if your interactions are weird and I think one mafia has to be between you it has to be YOU!
I've also tried to figure out why you did things, but you decided to go full robik at this point instead of having an actual discussion I asked about the JAT thing and you decided to go full rage mode or full retard idk which.
hard to do anything with oneg when he's literally hundred pages behind at points never in thread with me? That's really a non point honestly
Like this whole case is bullshit and you should feel bad cause I'm never getting lynched You haven't tried to figure out what I'm doing at all. Here is the comprehensive list of questions you've asked me since you started calling my play weird during n1 and before the post you just replied to: Show nested quote +On March 13 2015 08:40 Damdred wrote:On March 13 2015 08:39 Eden1892 wrote:On March 13 2015 08:39 Damdred wrote:
Hmmmm people Eden isn't reading the thread? wtf are you talking about You are ignoring Palmar saying he wasn't actually blue I believe? You are not trying to figure out what I'm doing. Don't even try to act like it. This is what you look like when you have someone you think is suspicious and you're trying to figure out what they're doing: Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 03:08 Damdred wrote:
Well art, what did you think of some of my conclussions and things I drew from my vca? Who do you disagree with most besides yourself or who would you switch yourself with? Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 03:17 Damdred wrote:On February 27 2015 03:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I don't think you're wrong on me, I know you're wrong on me. I've read my role PM.
I think you're wrong on either Tormented or Snarfs, maybe both. I've got you kel yamato eden and tron as town. Do you think i'm right on SL and Node? which is more likely do you think? i'm leaning more towards node probably Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 03:23 Damdred wrote:
Do you not think that snarfs post with all his reads is something mafia probably wouldn't do?
Also why did you vote for snarfs with yamato before deciding yamato was town after you had pushed him most of the day? Also he was the primary push on him I believe in the thread at that point. Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 03:28 Damdred wrote:On February 27 2015 03:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On February 27 2015 03:23 Damdred wrote:
Do you not think that snarfs post with all his reads is something mafia probably wouldn't do?
Also why did you vote for snarfs with yamato before deciding yamato was town after you had pushed him most of the day? Also he was the primary push on him I believe in the thread at that point. I didn't see anything new in his reads list. Rehashing what you've said already in order to get another very viable lynch target lynched seems very easy. Because my problem with Yamato was that he hadn't done anything other than a weak case on Tormented which he backed up on when I started pressuring him and flinging suspicions at me. When I read his filter, I saw him doing a lot of pushing and prodding, plus the mutual wave-yamato townreads helped. It looks like in yoru filter you voted before you looked into yamato? Look at the questions you've asked me since your analysis. Compare them to the questions you've asked Artanis since your analysis. How can you honestly say that you're trying to figure me out with anywhere near the same rigor as you were in that game?
hmm yeah. He is more asking advice and values other people their opinion.
While he looks angry at you. Might be atmosphere.
I will not vote Damdred ever.
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On March 13 2015 20:03 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2015 20:02 Eden1892 wrote:Koshi check the differences in his questioning here vs Student VI and tell me you don't see something to it please. All I heard was ritoky and Onegu boohooing it for no real reason. + Show Spoiler +On March 13 2015 13:32 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2015 13:22 Damdred wrote:
You are terribad if you are town here Eden seriously.
Damdred doesn't pressure you or rsoultin hrmmmm. Both of you had strange interactions between yourselves, I pinged out rsoultin day before town read rsoultin and obviously if your interactions are weird and I think one mafia has to be between you it has to be YOU!
I've also tried to figure out why you did things, but you decided to go full robik at this point instead of having an actual discussion I asked about the JAT thing and you decided to go full rage mode or full retard idk which.
hard to do anything with oneg when he's literally hundred pages behind at points never in thread with me? That's really a non point honestly
Like this whole case is bullshit and you should feel bad cause I'm never getting lynched You haven't tried to figure out what I'm doing at all. Here is the comprehensive list of questions you've asked me since you started calling my play weird during n1 and before the post you just replied to: Show nested quote +On March 13 2015 08:40 Damdred wrote:On March 13 2015 08:39 Eden1892 wrote:On March 13 2015 08:39 Damdred wrote:
Hmmmm people Eden isn't reading the thread? wtf are you talking about You are ignoring Palmar saying he wasn't actually blue I believe? You are not trying to figure out what I'm doing. Don't even try to act like it. This is what you look like when you have someone you think is suspicious and you're trying to figure out what they're doing: Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 03:08 Damdred wrote:
Well art, what did you think of some of my conclussions and things I drew from my vca? Who do you disagree with most besides yourself or who would you switch yourself with? Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 03:17 Damdred wrote:On February 27 2015 03:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I don't think you're wrong on me, I know you're wrong on me. I've read my role PM.
I think you're wrong on either Tormented or Snarfs, maybe both. I've got you kel yamato eden and tron as town. Do you think i'm right on SL and Node? which is more likely do you think? i'm leaning more towards node probably Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 03:23 Damdred wrote:
Do you not think that snarfs post with all his reads is something mafia probably wouldn't do?
Also why did you vote for snarfs with yamato before deciding yamato was town after you had pushed him most of the day? Also he was the primary push on him I believe in the thread at that point. Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 03:28 Damdred wrote:On February 27 2015 03:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On February 27 2015 03:23 Damdred wrote:
Do you not think that snarfs post with all his reads is something mafia probably wouldn't do?
Also why did you vote for snarfs with yamato before deciding yamato was town after you had pushed him most of the day? Also he was the primary push on him I believe in the thread at that point. I didn't see anything new in his reads list. Rehashing what you've said already in order to get another very viable lynch target lynched seems very easy. Because my problem with Yamato was that he hadn't done anything other than a weak case on Tormented which he backed up on when I started pressuring him and flinging suspicions at me. When I read his filter, I saw him doing a lot of pushing and prodding, plus the mutual wave-yamato townreads helped. It looks like in yoru filter you voted before you looked into yamato? Look at the questions you've asked me since your analysis. Compare them to the questions you've asked Artanis since your analysis. How can you honestly say that you're trying to figure me out with anywhere near the same rigor as you were in that game? I said 5 not 6
._. i'm not even talking about you saying something about student v
i posted this exact example last night and you were just like "nah man don't see it" without any explanation
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On March 13 2015 20:04 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2015 20:02 Eden1892 wrote:Koshi check the differences in his questioning here vs Student VI and tell me you don't see something to it please. All I heard was ritoky and Onegu boohooing it for no real reason. + Show Spoiler +On March 13 2015 13:32 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2015 13:22 Damdred wrote:
You are terribad if you are town here Eden seriously.
Damdred doesn't pressure you or rsoultin hrmmmm. Both of you had strange interactions between yourselves, I pinged out rsoultin day before town read rsoultin and obviously if your interactions are weird and I think one mafia has to be between you it has to be YOU!
I've also tried to figure out why you did things, but you decided to go full robik at this point instead of having an actual discussion I asked about the JAT thing and you decided to go full rage mode or full retard idk which.
hard to do anything with oneg when he's literally hundred pages behind at points never in thread with me? That's really a non point honestly
Like this whole case is bullshit and you should feel bad cause I'm never getting lynched You haven't tried to figure out what I'm doing at all. Here is the comprehensive list of questions you've asked me since you started calling my play weird during n1 and before the post you just replied to: Show nested quote +On March 13 2015 08:40 Damdred wrote:On March 13 2015 08:39 Eden1892 wrote:On March 13 2015 08:39 Damdred wrote:
Hmmmm people Eden isn't reading the thread? wtf are you talking about You are ignoring Palmar saying he wasn't actually blue I believe? You are not trying to figure out what I'm doing. Don't even try to act like it. This is what you look like when you have someone you think is suspicious and you're trying to figure out what they're doing: Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 03:08 Damdred wrote:
Well art, what did you think of some of my conclussions and things I drew from my vca? Who do you disagree with most besides yourself or who would you switch yourself with? Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 03:17 Damdred wrote:On February 27 2015 03:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I don't think you're wrong on me, I know you're wrong on me. I've read my role PM.
I think you're wrong on either Tormented or Snarfs, maybe both. I've got you kel yamato eden and tron as town. Do you think i'm right on SL and Node? which is more likely do you think? i'm leaning more towards node probably Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 03:23 Damdred wrote:
Do you not think that snarfs post with all his reads is something mafia probably wouldn't do?
Also why did you vote for snarfs with yamato before deciding yamato was town after you had pushed him most of the day? Also he was the primary push on him I believe in the thread at that point. Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 03:28 Damdred wrote:On February 27 2015 03:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On February 27 2015 03:23 Damdred wrote:
Do you not think that snarfs post with all his reads is something mafia probably wouldn't do?
Also why did you vote for snarfs with yamato before deciding yamato was town after you had pushed him most of the day? Also he was the primary push on him I believe in the thread at that point. I didn't see anything new in his reads list. Rehashing what you've said already in order to get another very viable lynch target lynched seems very easy. Because my problem with Yamato was that he hadn't done anything other than a weak case on Tormented which he backed up on when I started pressuring him and flinging suspicions at me. When I read his filter, I saw him doing a lot of pushing and prodding, plus the mutual wave-yamato townreads helped. It looks like in yoru filter you voted before you looked into yamato? Look at the questions you've asked me since your analysis. Compare them to the questions you've asked Artanis since your analysis. How can you honestly say that you're trying to figure me out with anywhere near the same rigor as you were in that game? hmm yeah. He is more asking advice and values other people their opinion. While he looks angry at you. Might be atmosphere.
sweet so could i maybe convince you t--
I will not vote Damdred ever.
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man that was the best* case i ever made on a townie
*[citation needed]
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like i hate to be rolefishing koshi but if you and damdred are masons it would be awesome if you could just say that so i could get off mr. bones wild ride
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" hesitance and indecision"
"It almost seems like marv was leaving his options open "
"Then during the night marv passed the baton to me"
"Another thing that might implicate marv is the nightkill."
"You can see that marv starts to suspect Koshi as momentum shifts decidedly toward Koshi getting shot. This is pretty natural reaction for mafia here"
"No, it appears that marv decided Koshi was mafia because I was persistent enough that Koshi was mafia? This is a bad reason to think Koshi is mafia,"
"So as marv awkwardly gives up mafia!Koshi for dead"
"And now, here we are today, with an incredibly heavy decision to make between JAT and HF. Both of them have, in my mind, been pretty convincing at times. I've flip-flopped twice I think between which one I want to kill. Where is marv in all of this?"
"but thus far I've found him to seem incredibly uninterested in actually deciding between JAT and HF, given the gravity of the decision. It seems, once again, as though he's waiting for a consensus to form before he steps in, where I expect marv as town to be the one trying to drive that consensus instead."
"marv's game has just been too passive. His filter is massive once again"
"His only concerted push all game was on Damdred, and he got an incredible case of cold feet about it during deadline"
I mean it really is a cracker. They're all there for you Koshi, to hang me with. Look!
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marv is just being extremely non committal this game because I am onto him. He is pretending to be non committal because I set the bar this high. He is pretending to look like his town meta because he is mafia. He is overdoing it.
Lynch marv with fire.
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On March 13 2015 20:07 Eden1892 wrote:
like i hate to be rolefishing koshi but if you and damdred are masons it would be awesome if you could just say that so i could get off mr. bones wild ride
We are not.
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On March 13 2015 20:04 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2015 20:03 Onegu wrote:On March 13 2015 20:02 Eden1892 wrote:Koshi check the differences in his questioning here vs Student VI and tell me you don't see something to it please. All I heard was ritoky and Onegu boohooing it for no real reason. + Show Spoiler +On March 13 2015 13:32 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2015 13:22 Damdred wrote:
You are terribad if you are town here Eden seriously.
Damdred doesn't pressure you or rsoultin hrmmmm. Both of you had strange interactions between yourselves, I pinged out rsoultin day before town read rsoultin and obviously if your interactions are weird and I think one mafia has to be between you it has to be YOU!
I've also tried to figure out why you did things, but you decided to go full robik at this point instead of having an actual discussion I asked about the JAT thing and you decided to go full rage mode or full retard idk which.
hard to do anything with oneg when he's literally hundred pages behind at points never in thread with me? That's really a non point honestly
Like this whole case is bullshit and you should feel bad cause I'm never getting lynched You haven't tried to figure out what I'm doing at all. Here is the comprehensive list of questions you've asked me since you started calling my play weird during n1 and before the post you just replied to: Show nested quote +On March 13 2015 08:40 Damdred wrote:On March 13 2015 08:39 Eden1892 wrote:On March 13 2015 08:39 Damdred wrote:
Hmmmm people Eden isn't reading the thread? wtf are you talking about You are ignoring Palmar saying he wasn't actually blue I believe? You are not trying to figure out what I'm doing. Don't even try to act like it. This is what you look like when you have someone you think is suspicious and you're trying to figure out what they're doing: Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 03:08 Damdred wrote:
Well art, what did you think of some of my conclussions and things I drew from my vca? Who do you disagree with most besides yourself or who would you switch yourself with? Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 03:17 Damdred wrote:On February 27 2015 03:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I don't think you're wrong on me, I know you're wrong on me. I've read my role PM.
I think you're wrong on either Tormented or Snarfs, maybe both. I've got you kel yamato eden and tron as town. Do you think i'm right on SL and Node? which is more likely do you think? i'm leaning more towards node probably Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 03:23 Damdred wrote:
Do you not think that snarfs post with all his reads is something mafia probably wouldn't do?
Also why did you vote for snarfs with yamato before deciding yamato was town after you had pushed him most of the day? Also he was the primary push on him I believe in the thread at that point. Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 03:28 Damdred wrote:On February 27 2015 03:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On February 27 2015 03:23 Damdred wrote:
Do you not think that snarfs post with all his reads is something mafia probably wouldn't do?
Also why did you vote for snarfs with yamato before deciding yamato was town after you had pushed him most of the day? Also he was the primary push on him I believe in the thread at that point. I didn't see anything new in his reads list. Rehashing what you've said already in order to get another very viable lynch target lynched seems very easy. Because my problem with Yamato was that he hadn't done anything other than a weak case on Tormented which he backed up on when I started pressuring him and flinging suspicions at me. When I read his filter, I saw him doing a lot of pushing and prodding, plus the mutual wave-yamato townreads helped. It looks like in yoru filter you voted before you looked into yamato? Look at the questions you've asked me since your analysis. Compare them to the questions you've asked Artanis since your analysis. How can you honestly say that you're trying to figure me out with anywhere near the same rigor as you were in that game? I said 5 not 6 ._. i'm not even talking about you saying something about student v i posted this exact example last night and you were just like "nah man don't see it" without any explanation
No you said he doesn't follow up as scum and always does as town, and I went and looked at his recent town games and while most of them he followed up his reads he didn't really do that in a 5. That's what I was talking about.
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On March 13 2015 20:08 Koshi wrote:
marv is just being extremely non committal this game because I am onto him. He is pretending to be non committal because I set the bar this high. He is pretending to look like his town meta because he is mafia. He is overdoing it.
Lynch marv with fire.
so bad
You literally fell headlong into the BH-trap
you did it!
you are ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE
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Look at marv. He started this "BH trap" nonsense in the start of the game just because he knew that he was going to play extra not-commital this game and people would call him out on it.
Marv is pretty good at scum and saw it coming.
Lynch with fire.
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On March 13 2015 20:09 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2015 20:07 Eden1892 wrote:
like i hate to be rolefishing koshi but if you and damdred are masons it would be awesome if you could just say that so i could get off mr. bones wild ride We are not.
ok awesome
why did it seem like you mostly agreed with me that damdred's questioning this game is noticeably different / less effective / less existent than student vi but then say you never lynch damdred 
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On March 13 2015 20:12 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2015 20:09 Koshi wrote:On March 13 2015 20:07 Eden1892 wrote:
like i hate to be rolefishing koshi but if you and damdred are masons it would be awesome if you could just say that so i could get off mr. bones wild ride We are not. ok awesome why did it seem like you mostly agreed with me that damdred's questioning this game is noticeably different / less effective / less existent than student vi but then say you never lynch damdred
I won't. I believe it is Palmar/Onegu/ritoky. But never Damdred.
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Eden: here's a clue, there are 9 other people in the game you could talk to Damdred about and who to persuade.
Here is a list of people you should not bother with:
Koshi
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Members of BH-trap club: 1. BH 2. Koshi
lmao
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EPT
