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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 13 2015 03:53 GMT
#2861
On March 13 2015 01:54 Koshi wrote:
Onegu his vote didn't look good at all. He asked you what to do and didn't just do what he should do and that is vote with you.



This isn't even true...
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 13 2015 04:04 GMT
#2862
Speaking of, I went back and read it. Here's the recap:

  • raynpelikoneet, prplhz, LightningStrike, Koshi confirmed/virtually-confirmed town
  • rsoultin, Eden, Palmar second-tier town (Eden most suspicious among them)
  • Onegu, ritoky, marvellosity are where the last 2 mafia are


He says he'd like to kill me but he can't really justify it because he thinks I would have bused JAT. Says he's in "a weird spot" because he had townreads on ritoky and marv.

Then what does he do after this admittedly pretty good post?

  • Calls my interaction with JAT "weird." Asks no questions to discern whether it was town or mafia.
  • Reaffirms his townread on ritoky.
  • Argues with ray a bit about rsoultin, taking the stance that she was thinking about the game and implications about in-game events, which is townie.
  • Acknowledges that he would be a good vig shot and that he hasn't played well.
  • Affirms again that he thinks rsoultin is town.
  • Asks marv for his scumreads. Questioning ultimately doesn't go anywhere, Damdred decides marv is town though.
  • Says that Onegu or I would be Palmar's or marv's partner were one to flip scum. I post a big reads list right afterward, Damdred proceeds never to ask me anything about it or engage it at all.
  • Flip-flops on rsoultin without explanation, now saying he thinks one of us is mafia. This is after he called us both probably town in his big reads list and with no interaction with either of us, nor indeed any substantial discussion of either of us at all.
  • Argues a little more with ray.
  • Says at EON that rsoultin and I were weird and needed to be pressured. Odd how he never actually takes the initiative to do this himself, isn't it?


Not bothering to finish this but the gist of the rest is that he talks a bit with ritoky once ritoky starts to play, he briefly does setup spec that isn't alignment-indicative and then he gets into it with me, entirely of my initiative mind.

You'll notice the following things are absent from the list:
[1] Doing anything to figure out Onegu.
[2] Doing anything to pressure his other scum suspects, instead just ignoring his VCA and deciding to townread them anyway.
[3] Doing anything to pressure the people he decides are probably mafia instead (rsoultin and me). Also, giving any explanation as to why he decided to throw away the point about JAT townreading rsoultin and me.

So Damdred, where's the pressure on me? You said I needed to be pressured because my play was weird. Why haven't you made a single bit of effort to take the initiative in questioning me? If I'm the bad guy and you're town then why am I the one constantly having to take the fight to you?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 13 2015 04:08 GMT
#2863
i have no idea what that post is even about by eden, but based on the list at the top it looks like a bunch of nonsense.

the fact that onegu was at the same place as me on page 100some + the fact he claimed VT reinforces my belief that he is VT like me.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 13 2015 04:11 GMT
#2864
oh it's a summary of damdred doing vote analysis and then you just quoting his shit and whining. okay.

go look at down under 2 where he literally did the exact same post as town. at the exact same point. congratz.

your read on damdred is bad, i already told you why he would be mafia if he is.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 13 2015 04:22 GMT
#2865
You are terribad if you are town here Eden seriously.

Damdred doesn't pressure you or rsoultin hrmmmm. Both of you had strange interactions between yourselves, I pinged out rsoultin day before town read rsoultin and obviously if your interactions are weird and I think one mafia has to be between you it has to be YOU!

I've also tried to figure out why you did things, but you decided to go full robik at this point instead of having an actual discussion I asked about the JAT thing and you decided to go full rage mode or full retard idk which.

hard to do anything with oneg when he's literally hundred pages behind at points never in thread with me? That's really a non point honestly

Like this whole case is bullshit and you should feel bad cause I'm never getting lynched
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 13 2015 04:24 GMT
#2866
Like literally I even comment and tell Marv he's a dick for ignoring me but he town tells so hard when I'm asleep in that mess during n1 he has to be town.

Good god your dense
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 13 2015 04:24 GMT
#2867
On March 13 2015 13:11 ritoky wrote:
oh it's a summary of damdred doing vote analysis and then you just quoting his shit and whining. okay.

go look at down under 2 where he literally did the exact same post as town. at the exact same point. congratz.

your read on damdred is bad, i already told you why he would be mafia if he is.

It's not about the post, it's the complete lack of followup to any of the conclusions within it. He says you, Onegu and marv are the final mafia pool, then he pulls you and marv out and calls you town while never doing anything about Onegu. He says rsoultin and I were weird and needed to be pressured, he never does any of that.

I said the analysis post itself was fine. And I know he makes those posts as either alignment. I saw it in Student VI as well. The problem is that there's no followup. That's what makes him suspicious.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 13 2015 04:27 GMT
#2868
Udvdjdbgajdifbshsonfhddbsuisicf

I've never done. vca as scum never ever ever ever ever ever

Lynch all ljars

##vote eden

Lyn,h all liars and lynch people that play like robik
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 13 2015 04:30 GMT
#2869
Lynch all liars, this just in damdred never scum read Eden first. Damdred never was proactive in this game. Lynch all liars, this in folks damdred never called out anything in the thread or tried to do anything.

gsbsjdkspdmdnakdoaojfhdkakdl

Lynch Eden
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 13 2015 04:31 GMT
#2870
I'm leaving now and sleeping there better be tin of votes on Eden when I get back. Lynch liars
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 13 2015 04:32 GMT
#2871
On March 13 2015 13:22 Damdred wrote:
You are terribad if you are town here Eden seriously.

Damdred doesn't pressure you or rsoultin hrmmmm. Both of you had strange interactions between yourselves, I pinged out rsoultin day before town read rsoultin and obviously if your interactions are weird and I think one mafia has to be between you it has to be YOU!

I've also tried to figure out why you did things, but you decided to go full robik at this point instead of having an actual discussion I asked about the JAT thing and you decided to go full rage mode or full retard idk which.

hard to do anything with oneg when he's literally hundred pages behind at points never in thread with me? That's really a non point honestly

Like this whole case is bullshit and you should feel bad cause I'm never getting lynched

You haven't tried to figure out what I'm doing at all. Here is the comprehensive list of questions you've asked me since you started calling my play weird during n1 and before the post you just replied to:

On March 13 2015 08:40 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 08:39 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 13 2015 08:39 Damdred wrote:
Hmmmm people Eden isn't reading the thread?

wtf are you talking about


You are ignoring Palmar saying he wasn't actually blue I believe?

You are not trying to figure out what I'm doing. Don't even try to act like it. This is what you look like when you have someone you think is suspicious and you're trying to figure out what they're doing:
On February 27 2015 03:08 Damdred wrote:
Well art, what did you think of some of my conclussions and things I drew from my vca? Who do you disagree with most besides yourself or who would you switch yourself with?

On February 27 2015 03:17 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 03:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I don't think you're wrong on me, I know you're wrong on me. I've read my role PM.

I think you're wrong on either Tormented or Snarfs, maybe both. I've got you kel yamato eden and tron as town.


Do you think i'm right on SL and Node? which is more likely do you think? i'm leaning more towards node probably

On February 27 2015 03:23 Damdred wrote:
Do you not think that snarfs post with all his reads is something mafia probably wouldn't do?

Also why did you vote for snarfs with yamato before deciding yamato was town after you had pushed him most of the day? Also he was the primary push on him I believe in the thread at that point.

On February 27 2015 03:28 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 03:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 27 2015 03:23 Damdred wrote:
Do you not think that snarfs post with all his reads is something mafia probably wouldn't do?

Also why did you vote for snarfs with yamato before deciding yamato was town after you had pushed him most of the day? Also he was the primary push on him I believe in the thread at that point.

I didn't see anything new in his reads list. Rehashing what you've said already in order to get another very viable lynch target lynched seems very easy.

Because my problem with Yamato was that he hadn't done anything other than a weak case on Tormented which he backed up on when I started pressuring him and flinging suspicions at me. When I read his filter, I saw him doing a lot of pushing and prodding, plus the mutual wave-yamato townreads helped.


It looks like in yoru filter you voted before you looked into yamato?


Look at the questions you've asked me since your analysis. Compare them to the questions you've asked Artanis since your analysis. How can you honestly say that you're trying to figure me out with anywhere near the same rigor as you were in that game?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 13 2015 04:33 GMT
#2872
On March 13 2015 13:27 Damdred wrote:
Udvdjdbgajdifbshsonfhddbsuisicf

I've never done. vca as scum never ever ever ever ever ever

Lynch all ljars

##vote eden

Lyn,h all liars and lynch people that play like robik

OK, so change "he does this as both alignments" to "he does this as town" or "he's capable of doing this as either alignment." The thrust of my argument is the same and you know this.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 13 2015 04:33 GMT
#2873
basically i think the following:

i am confirmed VT, onegu is like 90% VT, LS is uncc'd PR, rayn claimed PR

there's your town.

koochi is probably town unless he lives too long, then he did the strat he did with slam that i mentioned earlier. someone should remember that post if i am not around.

so the lynches should be between eden, damdred, marv, prp, and palmar

there's 2 mafia in that group.

i am reading damdred town for now...dunno he faded over the night phase for me, but not enough to be called scum.

last time i saw palmar troll like this he was town, imagine he can do it as either alignment, so meh; w/e pass for today.

lynch for today eden, marv, or prp.

voila solved the day phase.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 13 2015 04:34 GMT
#2874
Ok I have skimmed everything. The way Eden reacted to Palmars claim was really weird. Then the way he reacted to LS making his blue claim was really weird. I also don't really see Damdred as scum here. His case on Damdred isn't very strong its basicly Damdred isnt solving the game.

Eden is shoveling shit on everyone. He has in just day two gone with as mafia:

Palmar
Rayn
Me
Ritoky
Damdred
LS

That's over half the player list. He isn't trying to figure the game out just yelling whenever something comes up. I know he changes his reads often, but this game he doesn't change his reads he just drops them to pick them up later, there is a big difference.

##Vote: Eden1892
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 13 2015 04:35 GMT
#2875
On March 13 2015 13:30 Damdred wrote:
Lynch all liars, this just in damdred never scum read Eden first. Damdred never was proactive in this game. Lynch all liars, this in folks damdred never called out anything in the thread or tried to do anything.

gsbsjdkspdmdnakdoaojfhdkakdl

Lynch Eden

What are you even doing right now? I am providing you with a detailed citation of your own play and inviting you to show me how the record points to you being town. This after you complained about me "playing like Robik" and not being willing to play like you want. Now I'm playing ball with you and giving you plenty of opportunity to have a civil discussion and this is the best you can come up with? Insulting my mistake in not pushing JAT harder, clear distortions of what I'm saying and incoherent babbling?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 13 2015 04:36 GMT
#2876
This place is a fucking mad house. Someone come in here and save me already.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 13 2015 04:37 GMT
#2877
On March 13 2015 13:33 ritoky wrote:
basically i think the following:

i am confirmed VT, onegu is like 90% VT, LS is uncc'd PR, rayn claimed PR

there's your town.

koochi is probably town unless he lives too long, then he did the strat he did with slam that i mentioned earlier. someone should remember that post if i am not around.

so the lynches should be between eden, damdred, marv, prp, and palmar

there's 2 mafia in that group.

i am reading damdred town for now...dunno he faded over the night phase for me, but not enough to be called scum.

last time i saw palmar troll like this he was town, imagine he can do it as either alignment, so meh; w/e pass for today.

lynch for today eden, marv, or prp.

voila solved the day phase.



This is really close to my reads, I'd put Koshi higher and I am fairly sure marv is town. I could see Damdred being scum but meh.
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 13 2015 04:39 GMT
#2878
On March 13 2015 13:34 Onegu wrote:
Ok I have skimmed everything. The way Eden reacted to Palmars claim was really weird. Then the way he reacted to LS making his blue claim was really weird. I also don't really see Damdred as scum here. His case on Damdred isn't very strong its basicly Damdred isnt solving the game.

Eden is shoveling shit on everyone. He has in just day two gone with as mafia:

Palmar
Rayn
Me
Ritoky
Damdred
LS

That's over half the player list. He isn't trying to figure the game out just yelling whenever something comes up. I know he changes his reads often, but this game he doesn't change his reads he just drops them to pick them up later, there is a big difference.

##Vote: Eden1892

This guy is very likely mafia too fwiw. I am very clearly trying to figure the game out and I'm being incredibly detailed by my own standards in laying out my arguments.

What was weird about my reaction to either claim? Be specific.
Why don't you see Damdred as mafia? What's weak about my case on Damdred? Do you disagree that Damdred isn't trying to solve the game, and if so, why do you disagree? If you agree, why do you think that isn't alignment-indicative? Again, specifics.

What reads did I drop to pick up later, and what is suspicious about doing so?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 13 2015 04:39 GMT
#2879
Going to filter prplhz now as I basicly don't remember him except someone saying he was mason and him denying it...
Try TL Mafia!!!
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 13 2015 04:39 GMT
#2880
On March 13 2015 13:34 Onegu wrote:
Ok I have skimmed everything. The way Eden reacted to Palmars claim was really weird. Then the way he reacted to LS making his blue claim was really weird. I also don't really see Damdred as scum here. His case on Damdred isn't very strong its basicly Damdred isnt solving the game.

Eden is shoveling shit on everyone. He has in just day two gone with as mafia:

Palmar
Rayn
Me
Ritoky
Damdred
LS

That's over half the player list. He isn't trying to figure the game out just yelling whenever something comes up. I know he changes his reads often, but this game he doesn't change his reads he just drops them to pick them up later, there is a big difference.

##Vote: Eden1892


On March 13 2015 13:37 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 13:33 ritoky wrote:
basically i think the following:

i am confirmed VT, onegu is like 90% VT, LS is uncc'd PR, rayn claimed PR

there's your town.

koochi is probably town unless he lives too long, then he did the strat he did with slam that i mentioned earlier. someone should remember that post if i am not around.

so the lynches should be between eden, damdred, marv, prp, and palmar

there's 2 mafia in that group.

i am reading damdred town for now...dunno he faded over the night phase for me, but not enough to be called scum.

last time i saw palmar troll like this he was town, imagine he can do it as either alignment, so meh; w/e pass for today.

lynch for today eden, marv, or prp.

voila solved the day phase.



This is really close to my reads, I'd put Koshi higher and I am fairly sure marv is town. I could see Damdred being scum but meh.


Boy bye
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
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