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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On March 09 2015 04:30 GlowingBear wrote: I forget things Refresh my mind Funny thing that you are so sure of Damdred being Mafia but ignoring my point on Soren Read this. Learn to play and go away. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On March 09 2015 07:54 Holyflare wrote: Gb just stfu i asked the cop to check me too. You're conveniently ignoring that fact too. Don't force me into writing the biggest case in my whole life. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On March 09 2015 07:54 GlowingBear wrote: Mechanics usually randomise Mafia kp when there is no action taken from scum. Which is another argument that implies scum deliberately skipped night kill. So you can get Yamato and Mocsta dead. Never have i EVER in 30 games of mafia seen a nk randomised when not submitted. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On March 09 2015 07:56 GlowingBear wrote: Don't force me into writing the biggest case in my whole life. Do it I'm happy with you just afk writing nonsense rather than actually typing here instead. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On March 09 2015 07:54 your mom wrote: Anyway I'm challenging you on this HF. I bet yamato isn't scum. Yeh he might not be i had the same qualms with mocsta too. | ||
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your mom
262 Posts
On March 07 2015 23:44 Mocsta wrote: yeah, potentially scummy. Hasnt gone out of his way to offer information to the thread i dont know where he stands on items. like.. i cant remember the thread convo, but the comment below about soren seems out of place in a filter dive. tl;dr if i had to make a point against tormented, it is that his filter feigns real contribution. draws superficial points, and then asks questions back to the thread for others to fill the gap. as evidenced below i suppose its interesting why tormented wants to know about robik as well given: GB is leaning town & Robik has done "nothing" what will GB reasoning illuminate? On March 08 2015 00:45 Mocsta wrote: lol... i had to type it out and then realied. he saysing mafia dont want spotlight, hence, you shouldnt be mafia. yeah, aftger rereading his reponse about hf being town or not... its valid. trying to appease rayn and give out as little as possible. i can swing this way. happy to vote between kelsier or soren. Here, one of the reasons Moc is mafia, he doesn't consider Torm for lynch. Plus the awful entrance. Plus he tries really hard to mimic town opinion in order to survive. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
First of all there is no way mafia intentionally no-killed. It was 8-2 at the start of the night. Anyone with any brain and experience sends in a pre-emptive kill just because if they do not and something goes wrong IRL it is not guaranteed they get a kill at all. No kill gives town one more mislynch considering Torment was quite likely to be shot. You are already one down, another one goes too most likely. Then you what? Give town a free mislynch and a cop check? lol. Torment obviously was not here on N1. That leaves me yamato and Mocsta for other people who were not here, and therefore could be mafia for the no-kill. I am more sure of Mocsta being town on them, while they both voted for mafia (lol) yamato would only be soft-bussing. Mocsta has to know when i am pushing my lynch there is a quite high chance of it getting through. yamato was also one of the Robik voters. Other people who could possibly be mafia are MM1 and Soren. Just because there was a confusion about the deadline and i do not think any other people than those two would hold on to the last minute in case Torment comes back to discuss their kill (srsly, would you wait for Torment if you were mafia with him? right ^^). Out of those two i think Soren is town for the reasons i have outlined. So MM1 is possible scum here. I'd say yamato or MM1 is 90% likely mafia. If they both flip town lynch Mocsta. If the game still does not end lynch Soren. Funny thing is we can do this all because we have 3 mislynches.  Just for caution, i'd still check Holyflare haha ^^ | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On March 09 2015 07:56 Holyflare wrote: Never have i EVER in 30 games of mafia seen a nk randomised when not submitted. I've never seen a scum not submitting a night kill either But I have seen OP's stating they are randomised Of course hosts will not clarify this for us now since this is game changing information. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On March 09 2015 07:58 your mom wrote: Here, one of the reasons Moc is mafia, he doesn't consider Torm for lynch. Plus the awful entrance. Plus he tries really hard to mimic town opinion in order to survive. Am i mafia too because i didn't consider Torment for lynch? Mocsta voted Kelsier with me.... | ||
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your mom
262 Posts
On March 09 2015 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Am i mafia too because i didn't consider Torment for lynch? Mocsta voted Kelsier with me.... Moc generally buddied the fuck out of you, be careful for what reason you give him a pass. You two are like Sandro and Syllo so just think about this: If he wanted to survive, would he better be off going against you or with you? | ||
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your mom
262 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
If there is anything that makes him mafia it's his absence on N1 and a no-kill happening. | ||
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Soren333
164 Posts
On March 09 2015 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: As to answer to both GB and YM: First of all there is no way mafia intentionally no-killed. It was 8-2 at the start of the night. Anyone with any brain and experience sends in a pre-emptive kill just because if they do not and something goes wrong IRL it is not guaranteed they get a kill at all. No kill gives town one more mislynch considering Torment was quite likely to be shot. You are already one down, another one goes too most likely. Then you what? Give town a free mislynch and a cop check? lol. Torment obviously was not here on N1. That leaves me yamato and Mocsta for other people who were not here, and therefore could be mafia for the no-kill. I am more sure of Mocsta being town on them, while they both voted for mafia (lol) yamato would only be soft-bussing. Mocsta has to know when i am pushing my lynch there is a quite high chance of it getting through. yamato was also one of the Robik voters. Other people who could possibly be mafia are MM1 and Soren. Just because there was a confusion about the deadline and i do not think any other people than those two would hold on to the last minute in case Torment comes back to discuss their kill (srsly, would you wait for Torment if you were mafia with him? right ^^). Out of those two i think Soren is town for the reasons i have outlined. So MM1 is possible scum here. I'd say yamato or MM1 is 90% likely mafia. If they both flip town lynch Mocsta. If the game still does not end lynch Soren. Funny thing is we can do this all because we have 3 mislynches. Just for caution, i'd still check Holyflare haha ^^ For the record. If I was mafia I would be able to make my own decision on who to kill, rather than to wait for torment to come online to discuss. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
As Mocsta voted for Kelsier, I'd rather believe Yamato could be Mafia. You are right, though. Lynching Yamato and checking HF is the best option. Let's do this today. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Like throw the whole fucking team under the bus at the same time? Do you think Mocsta is this dumb? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On March 09 2015 08:04 Soren333 wrote: For the record. If I was mafia I would be able to make my own decision on who to kill, rather than to wait for torment to come online to discuss. I do not doubt that more than just a little, i just don't have enough experience with you to make a 100% claim. | ||
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your mom
262 Posts
On March 09 2015 08:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like i don't get why he calls Tormented mafia if he doesn't wanna bus him but his other partner? Like throw the whole fucking team under the bus at the same time? Do you think Mocsta is this dumb? Not dumb but possibly frustrated with the "matchmaking". | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On March 09 2015 08:04 GlowingBear wrote: MM1 was active. Only inactives were Yamato and Mocsta. I was saying i could see MM1 trying to wait Torment to come back at the last hour of the phase before making a decision, then the deadline just fucked up on him . | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
I'll write a case on HF and let you think what you want. We have very good information to work out a Mafia team. Bye bye. I'll see you soon. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On March 09 2015 08:07 your mom wrote: Not dumb but possibly frustrated with the "matchmaking". Or then he is just town and has decent reads? | ||
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