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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 25 2015 19:13 GMT
#32
/in
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 26 2015 11:41 GMT
#57
Hey guys let's fill this up.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 07:33 GMT
#163
Voting Trfel.
Townread on kelsier.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 09:08 GMT
#171
On February 27 2015 16:55 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 16:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Voting Trfel.
Townread on kelsier.



Town read for pointing out trfels bad post? That's loose for a town read even by your standards Rayn.

No.

Oats is weird.
Rsoultin is town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 13:25 GMT
#176
The thing is Trfel's read isn't a read at all.
It's like that one dude writing a 1000 word post in the first cell mafia game, the post said "i don't know who is mafia in thiss cell"..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 13:36 GMT
#178
Banks.. .yes it was Banks.

Yay purplehaze can be town too.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 14:39 GMT
#182
Onegu could be mafia too.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 16:26 GMT
#185
Trfel is there a game on TL you have played as mafia and if there is where can i find it?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 16:47 GMT
#187
The problem Trfel is, as town you have reads, as mafia you don't.

Like here, now, you have said the same thing two times and both of the times the post says "i did something to poke rsoultin to get an alignment indicative reaction form her, but i don't know if what she said is scummy or not".

You point out a lot stuff that in your opinion is scummy, but they do not end up in a scumread, in fact they don't end up in any kind of read and tbh this part of your post:
While the points that rsoultin makes are all true, rsoultin knows how I play better than this, so I don't think that town!rsoultin would respond in this manner. Yes, it's a meta read, but rsoultin has played in almost all, if not all, of the games that I have played in.

.. is what mafia says when they are caught. You are literally saying "i did a scummy thing and noone should call me scum for it because it was intentional".
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 17:03 GMT
#192
Trfel (and everyone else) i am trying to thin what you did and why you did what you did assuming you are town which would mean your explanation is legit and not bullshit. So here is what you said you did:
1) You intentionally worded one of your posts poorly to get a reaction from rsoultin
2) rsoultin gives a reaction
3) you seem to be having no idea what this reaction means

This, to me, sound unbelievable because when you do a reaction test you are supposed to have a clue of what whichever answer the target gives means. There is literally no point in doing such things if you can't get anything out of it (as you now claim). Which leads me to believe you actually did this:
1) you made a terrible opening
2) rsoultin caught you
3) you are now in damage control mode and changing your story

which means mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 17:26 GMT
#195
I do not understand why everyone seems to expect 100% confidence in my reads.

Nobody is expecting 100% confidence but your job as town is to lynch mafia and you are not even voting foryour only scumread in the game. You have said you think she is scummy but your posting doesn't really follow that thought because every other sentence is basically "she could be town aswell". You are not pressuring her into giving more info on her alignment. You apparently have no other scumreads.

So if you are not confident that rsoultin is mafia to even vote for her why are you not trying to pressure her and/or why are you not trying to find other mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 17:27 GMT
#196
And btw your "consistent" points are obvious, everyone should know those things. Lurking is bad, wasting posts is bad, bla bla who cares? Everyone knows this shit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 18:38 GMT
#204
On February 28 2015 02:33 rsoultin wrote:
@rayn

I like where your head's at this game. I understand you were miffed from last game and may not want to give reasons for your reads, but where did the Onegu scum-lean come from? I have him as null right now.

He makes a really bad comment about me on Kelsier read. Then he doesn't even comment on the original post. tbh by that post alone (which i made) he should read me as town.

On February 28 2015 03:13 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 18:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats is weird.

There is no statement more true in the history of mafia. I hate when people say "weird" because it's not a real read, but oats post basically saying "wtf va...vote robik" was just so mindblowingly dumb that I don't know if he's mafia or if he's the cop.

I mean the fact he started game unnecessarily angry. Oats is angry but you and Vayne were fucking around and he came in with just yelling dumb shit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 18:43 GMT
#207
On February 28 2015 03:40 IAmRobik wrote:
I mean, I started off by fucking around, but I am being genuine about wanting to lynch VA. How do you feel about him./

Unsure, which means he is probably mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 19:24 GMT
#211
On February 28 2015 03:58 KelsierSC wrote:
Prpl you have to explain how you can like what oats,rayn and I were thinking because oats didn't talk about trefl , rayn had basically said no explanation

not right.
guess people can't read even two liners now...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 20:48 GMT
#215
robik confirmed town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 21:24 GMT
#221
no robik you want Aquanim.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 21:26 GMT
#222
wow ritoky is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 21:33 GMT
#227
ritoky why are you doing this:
1) commenting on something x hours ago
2) commenting on y hours ago (when x is kinda resolved)
3) come in just now and comment on X again?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 21:47 GMT
#231
he is town what do you think?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 21:59 GMT
#235
okay. make a case.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 22:10 GMT
#238
On February 28 2015 07:04 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 06:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
okay. make a case.


did you even glance at the filters I linked?

no. make a case if you have one. you called him scum. now prove it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 22:22 GMT
#241
where is the scum meta comparison ritoky?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 22:31 GMT
#243
can you fucking point out how Kelsier's play this game is similar to his mafia play if you are gonna make a meta case?
and not just say "oh he plays differently than he did this game"?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 22:34 GMT
#244
i am playing very differently from Slytherin mafia. Am i mafia?
read filters here_
slytherin:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477307-slytherin-mini-mafia?user=raynpelikoneet
this game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/478805-mini-mafia-down-under?user=raynpelikoneet

now this is your case on Kelsier.
am i mafia too?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 22:37 GMT
#245
On February 28 2015 07:26 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 07:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
where is the scum meta comparison ritoky?


I have been patient with you just being a dickbag until now, but if you're not going to read anything or respond; then there's no real point in talking to you. If you're town then you're cancer, if you're mafia then die plz.

you are probably town because of this post, you fucking dickbag.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 22:55 GMT
#247
On February 28 2015 07:26 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 07:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
where is the scum meta comparison ritoky?


I have been patient with you just being a dickbag until now, but if you're not going to read anything or respond; then there's no real point in talking to you. If you're town then you're cancer, if you're mafia then die plz.

i'm just a dickbag baby so hey, get back to me when you feel the need to.
go sleep (while it's day for you duh), workout, eat, whatever. idgaf.

just don't forget this because if you do, when i bring it up again noone will remember the original shit anyways. and now you look quite bad because you should have had an easy task in explaining yourself.

kthxbye i am off to bed in 10min.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 23:02 GMT
#249
##unvote
##vote ritoky
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 23:04 GMT
#251
y u so mad
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 23:07 GMT
#252
for the record i asked a legit question.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 23:15 GMT
#257
On February 28 2015 08:13 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 08:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
for the record i asked a legit question.


let me summarize your play for you thus far:

this guy is town with no explanation!
this guy is mafia with no explanation!
this guy is weird!
this guy is town with no explanation!
obvious town is mafia!
you're mafia for commenting on something that was already commented on!
oh you proved me wrong....time to find a new reason!
you didn't explain your reads just like me!
look I am being a bag of dicks!
I didn't read anything you typed!
you asked me questions and responded to things but I am ignoring them!
well you're town!
no wait, mafia!
I'M MAD THAT YOU'RE IGNORING ME RAWWWWWWRRR I AM RAYN RAWWWWRRRR!
notice me senpai!

I think it is a pretty accurate account.

no.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 23:20 GMT
#258
On February 28 2015 07:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
where is the scum meta comparison ritoky?

If you can't explain this i ensure you are getting lynched because your case is full of shit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 23:27 GMT
#261
oh i wish english was my mother tongue so i could write insulting words just to insult the people i want to.
meh.. well at least i am am a man and get bans for what i say when i am truly angry (and not a pussy) as honestly i have no idea what's ritoky's beef in this game. he should just probably get some sleep.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 23:45 GMT
#268
On February 28 2015 08:41 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 08:34 KelsierSC wrote:
On February 28 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he is town what do you think?


the opposite as of now, I really liked his opening comment about making a read for the sake of making a read; but then I compared it to his previous game. he is less open with his opinions, doing less to actively solve the game, and his posts are shorter in length. I feel like he would care more about the lack of activity of most players if he were town.


I guess I can respond to this as well.

This is a post limit game what that means is that naturally.people will be more timid with their posting. This is not alignment indicative. Therefore the lack of activity is not surprising. I did comment on the first post of value.i saw, trefls long post. When I saw prplhz post about trefl that was a red flag and I'm asking him questions now to read him.

I think your case is pretty terrible.


When I was mafia with you in imperial, you did a similar thing to what you're doing now. Your style of posting is much different from last game, but the thing that stands out to me most is your scope. In the previous game when you were town you cast a very wide net on day 1 and really were invested in multiple people, determining their alignments, and figuring out the game. In Imperial, you cast a shallow net focusing on 3-4 people as your reads day 1. You have a similar narrow focus this game, and I think the differentiation of play is because you are not town.

Why couldn't you just say this in the first place instead of acting like a massive dick?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 23:46 GMT
#269
On February 28 2015 08:43 KelsierSC wrote:
I was town in imperial

oh now i know
roflskates.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 23:50 GMT
#272
In Imperial, you cast a shallow net focusing on 3-4 people as your reads day 1.

Kelsier is this true? Ignore the wording, just the concept.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 23:53 GMT
#277
On February 28 2015 08:50 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 08:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:41 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:34 KelsierSC wrote:
On February 28 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he is town what do you think?


the opposite as of now, I really liked his opening comment about making a read for the sake of making a read; but then I compared it to his previous game. he is less open with his opinions, doing less to actively solve the game, and his posts are shorter in length. I feel like he would care more about the lack of activity of most players if he were town.


I guess I can respond to this as well.

This is a post limit game what that means is that naturally.people will be more timid with their posting. This is not alignment indicative. Therefore the lack of activity is not surprising. I did comment on the first post of value.i saw, trefls long post. When I saw prplhz post about trefl that was a red flag and I'm asking him questions now to read him.

I think your case is pretty terrible.


When I was mafia with you in imperial, you did a similar thing to what you're doing now. Your style of posting is much different from last game, but the thing that stands out to me most is your scope. In the previous game when you were town you cast a very wide net on day 1 and really were invested in multiple people, determining their alignments, and figuring out the game. In Imperial, you cast a shallow net focusing on 3-4 people as your reads day 1. You have a similar narrow focus this game, and I think the differentiation of play is because you are not town.

Why couldn't you just say this in the first place instead of acting like a massive dick?


Because I gave a read, you openly stated you didn't read it, then I asked you questions and you refused to respond to any of them. So I decided to not respond to you. You were actually the one being the bag of dicks good sir.

if you do not understand why i didn't read your case's justification further you are an idiot. srsly, you are.
again, why didn't you provide full proof from the beginning?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 23:56 GMT
#280
On February 28 2015 08:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
scum team is onegu, palmar, superbia prove me wrong some one, im bored.

Palmar is probably not mafia but neither are you so thank you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2015 23:58 GMT
#284
On February 28 2015 08:55 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 08:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:50 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:41 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:34 KelsierSC wrote:
On February 28 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he is town what do you think?


the opposite as of now, I really liked his opening comment about making a read for the sake of making a read; but then I compared it to his previous game. he is less open with his opinions, doing less to actively solve the game, and his posts are shorter in length. I feel like he would care more about the lack of activity of most players if he were town.


I guess I can respond to this as well.

This is a post limit game what that means is that naturally.people will be more timid with their posting. This is not alignment indicative. Therefore the lack of activity is not surprising. I did comment on the first post of value.i saw, trefls long post. When I saw prplhz post about trefl that was a red flag and I'm asking him questions now to read him.

I think your case is pretty terrible.


When I was mafia with you in imperial, you did a similar thing to what you're doing now. Your style of posting is much different from last game, but the thing that stands out to me most is your scope. In the previous game when you were town you cast a very wide net on day 1 and really were invested in multiple people, determining their alignments, and figuring out the game. In Imperial, you cast a shallow net focusing on 3-4 people as your reads day 1. You have a similar narrow focus this game, and I think the differentiation of play is because you are not town.

Why couldn't you just say this in the first place instead of acting like a massive dick?


Because I gave a read, you openly stated you didn't read it, then I asked you questions and you refused to respond to any of them. So I decided to not respond to you. You were actually the one being the bag of dicks good sir.

if you do not understand why i didn't read your case's justification further you are an idiot. srsly, you are.
again, why didn't you provide full proof from the beginning?


Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 08:50 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:41 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:34 KelsierSC wrote:
On February 28 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he is town what do you think?


the opposite as of now, I really liked his opening comment about making a read for the sake of making a read; but then I compared it to his previous game. he is less open with his opinions, doing less to actively solve the game, and his posts are shorter in length. I feel like he would care more about the lack of activity of most players if he were town.


I guess I can respond to this as well.

This is a post limit game what that means is that naturally.people will be more timid with their posting. This is not alignment indicative. Therefore the lack of activity is not surprising. I did comment on the first post of value.i saw, trefls long post. When I saw prplhz post about trefl that was a red flag and I'm asking him questions now to read him.

I think your case is pretty terrible.


When I was mafia with you in imperial, you did a similar thing to what you're doing now. Your style of posting is much different from last game, but the thing that stands out to me most is your scope. In the previous game when you were town you cast a very wide net on day 1 and really were invested in multiple people, determining their alignments, and figuring out the game. In Imperial, you cast a shallow net focusing on 3-4 people as your reads day 1. You have a similar narrow focus this game, and I think the differentiation of play is because you are not town.

Why couldn't you just say this in the first place instead of acting like a massive dick?


Because I gave a read, you openly stated you didn't read it, then I asked you questions and you refused to respond to any of them. So I decided to not respond to you. You were actually the one being the bag of dicks good sir.

Like what the fuck is so hard with you?
You gave a meta read which said "here is this game, it's different than this town game but i have no scum game to compare". I asked you to give out a scumgame of his to compare, you called me dickbags.

So fuck you fuckface. What the fuck are you even arguing for you idiot?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 28 2015 00:03 GMT
#290
On February 28 2015 09:01 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 08:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:55 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:50 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:41 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:34 KelsierSC wrote:
On February 28 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he is town what do you think?


the opposite as of now, I really liked his opening comment about making a read for the sake of making a read; but then I compared it to his previous game. he is less open with his opinions, doing less to actively solve the game, and his posts are shorter in length. I feel like he would care more about the lack of activity of most players if he were town.


I guess I can respond to this as well.

This is a post limit game what that means is that naturally.people will be more timid with their posting. This is not alignment indicative. Therefore the lack of activity is not surprising. I did comment on the first post of value.i saw, trefls long post. When I saw prplhz post about trefl that was a red flag and I'm asking him questions now to read him.

I think your case is pretty terrible.


When I was mafia with you in imperial, you did a similar thing to what you're doing now. Your style of posting is much different from last game, but the thing that stands out to me most is your scope. In the previous game when you were town you cast a very wide net on day 1 and really were invested in multiple people, determining their alignments, and figuring out the game. In Imperial, you cast a shallow net focusing on 3-4 people as your reads day 1. You have a similar narrow focus this game, and I think the differentiation of play is because you are not town.

Why couldn't you just say this in the first place instead of acting like a massive dick?


Because I gave a read, you openly stated you didn't read it, then I asked you questions and you refused to respond to any of them. So I decided to not respond to you. You were actually the one being the bag of dicks good sir.

if you do not understand why i didn't read your case's justification further you are an idiot. srsly, you are.
again, why didn't you provide full proof from the beginning?


On February 28 2015 08:50 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:41 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:34 KelsierSC wrote:
On February 28 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he is town what do you think?


the opposite as of now, I really liked his opening comment about making a read for the sake of making a read; but then I compared it to his previous game. he is less open with his opinions, doing less to actively solve the game, and his posts are shorter in length. I feel like he would care more about the lack of activity of most players if he were town.


I guess I can respond to this as well.

This is a post limit game what that means is that naturally.people will be more timid with their posting. This is not alignment indicative. Therefore the lack of activity is not surprising. I did comment on the first post of value.i saw, trefls long post. When I saw prplhz post about trefl that was a red flag and I'm asking him questions now to read him.

I think your case is pretty terrible.


When I was mafia with you in imperial, you did a similar thing to what you're doing now. Your style of posting is much different from last game, but the thing that stands out to me most is your scope. In the previous game when you were town you cast a very wide net on day 1 and really were invested in multiple people, determining their alignments, and figuring out the game. In Imperial, you cast a shallow net focusing on 3-4 people as your reads day 1. You have a similar narrow focus this game, and I think the differentiation of play is because you are not town.

Why couldn't you just say this in the first place instead of acting like a massive dick?


Because I gave a read, you openly stated you didn't read it, then I asked you questions and you refused to respond to any of them. So I decided to not respond to you. You were actually the one being the bag of dicks good sir.

Like what the fuck is so hard with you?
You gave a meta read which said "here is this game, it's different than this town game but i have no scum game to compare". I asked you to give out a scumgame of his to compare, you called me dickbags.

So fuck you fuckface. What the fuck are you even arguing for you idiot?


You asked badgering and leading questions, made no comment on a refuted accusation, attempted a new accusation, did not read the responses, did not respond to questions on why you disagreed, and then flipped out. So I trolled you, deal with it.

quote my fucking posts where your post here stands any fucking ground.
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February 28 2015 00:06 GMT
#292
no i n fact go ahead and quote the whole interaction between me and you so i can just fucking lynch you after it, and you made it to yourself.
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February 28 2015 00:09 GMT
#296
On February 28 2015 09:07 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 08:23 KelsierSC wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:00 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 07:54 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm waiting for prplhz to respond to my question.



That's cool, talk about something else in the game.


Hmm i can give you some initial thoughts i had.

Trefels post was where the game started. It looked like a lot of waffle sort of trying to make a read on rsoultin based on very little. Especially considering the size of the post. I don't really buy the"making a play to read her." I dont know how trefl plays but someone mentioned he.likes to make.giant posts

I think rayns pressure and follow up has been excellent, he is by far the towniest person in the thread and my only town read.

Prplhz entry seemed opportunistic and his reason to scum read trefl was very poor. He has also said he liked the thoughts of myself, rayn and oats. At the time he said this oats hadn't mentioned trefl , i had made some.one liner that wasn't brilliantly.incisive and rayn had only.just made his point. I think prplhz has been scummy.

Robik are you still on the Lync Va life or you got something

I'm somewhere between you/rayn/va today

then you're scum because we are all town and you can't have such bad reads. right robert?
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February 28 2015 00:13 GMT
#300
On February 28 2015 09:09 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 09:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 28 2015 09:01 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:55 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:50 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:41 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:34 KelsierSC wrote:
[quote]

I guess I can respond to this as well.

This is a post limit game what that means is that naturally.people will be more timid with their posting. This is not alignment indicative. Therefore the lack of activity is not surprising. I did comment on the first post of value.i saw, trefls long post. When I saw prplhz post about trefl that was a red flag and I'm asking him questions now to read him.

I think your case is pretty terrible.


When I was mafia with you in imperial, you did a similar thing to what you're doing now. Your style of posting is much different from last game, but the thing that stands out to me most is your scope. In the previous game when you were town you cast a very wide net on day 1 and really were invested in multiple people, determining their alignments, and figuring out the game. In Imperial, you cast a shallow net focusing on 3-4 people as your reads day 1. You have a similar narrow focus this game, and I think the differentiation of play is because you are not town.

Why couldn't you just say this in the first place instead of acting like a massive dick?


Because I gave a read, you openly stated you didn't read it, then I asked you questions and you refused to respond to any of them. So I decided to not respond to you. You were actually the one being the bag of dicks good sir.

if you do not understand why i didn't read your case's justification further you are an idiot. srsly, you are.
again, why didn't you provide full proof from the beginning?


On February 28 2015 08:50 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:41 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:34 KelsierSC wrote:
On February 28 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote:
[quote]

the opposite as of now, I really liked his opening comment about making a read for the sake of making a read; but then I compared it to his previous game. he is less open with his opinions, doing less to actively solve the game, and his posts are shorter in length. I feel like he would care more about the lack of activity of most players if he were town.


I guess I can respond to this as well.

This is a post limit game what that means is that naturally.people will be more timid with their posting. This is not alignment indicative. Therefore the lack of activity is not surprising. I did comment on the first post of value.i saw, trefls long post. When I saw prplhz post about trefl that was a red flag and I'm asking him questions now to read him.

I think your case is pretty terrible.


When I was mafia with you in imperial, you did a similar thing to what you're doing now. Your style of posting is much different from last game, but the thing that stands out to me most is your scope. In the previous game when you were town you cast a very wide net on day 1 and really were invested in multiple people, determining their alignments, and figuring out the game. In Imperial, you cast a shallow net focusing on 3-4 people as your reads day 1. You have a similar narrow focus this game, and I think the differentiation of play is because you are not town.

Why couldn't you just say this in the first place instead of acting like a massive dick?


Because I gave a read, you openly stated you didn't read it, then I asked you questions and you refused to respond to any of them. So I decided to not respond to you. You were actually the one being the bag of dicks good sir.

Like what the fuck is so hard with you?
You gave a meta read which said "here is this game, it's different than this town game but i have no scum game to compare". I asked you to give out a scumgame of his to compare, you called me dickbags.

So fuck you fuckface. What the fuck are you even arguing for you idiot?


You asked badgering and leading questions, made no comment on a refuted accusation, attempted a new accusation, did not read the responses, did not respond to questions on why you disagreed, and then flipped out. So I trolled you, deal with it.

quote my fucking posts where your post here stands any fucking ground.


Here is your accusation:

Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 06:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ritoky why are you doing this:
1) commenting on something x hours ago
2) commenting on y hours ago (when x is kinda resolved)
3) come in just now and comment on X again?


Here is my response:

Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 06:37 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 06:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ritoky why are you doing this:
1) commenting on something x hours ago
2) commenting on y hours ago (when x is kinda resolved)
3) come in just now and comment on X again?


last night I read part of the thread on painkillers, I woke up and realized I had no fucking memory of what I read. so I read it again, commented on something I didn't like, who gives a shit if someone else commented on it already?


Here is your response:

oh wait it doesn't exist. instead you move toward forcing your way into me asking a question to robik.

Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 06:43 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 06:39 IAmRobik wrote:
He just got married and he's already in pain lawl


lol, ain't dat the truth.

also what do you think of kelsier?

I submit to you this:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=KelsierSC

and this

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/478805-mini-mafia-down-under?user=KelsierSC


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On February 28 2015 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he is town what do you think?


do I need to display the rest for you? you clearly lack self-awareness and we are both running out of posts.

BWHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!H!H!H!H!H!H!!!!!!
^^^^A^^SA^SÂÂÂ^^^^^^
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February 28 2015 00:15 GMT
#302
On February 28 2015 09:13 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 09:10 KelsierSC wrote:
On February 28 2015 09:07 prplhz wrote:
7

On February 28 2015 09:04 KelsierSC wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:57 prplhz wrote:
On February 28 2015 07:54 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm waiting for prplhz to respond to my question.


6

There's really not much to it.

"I think I see where you and Oatsmaster and raynpelikoneet are coming from"

What I mean is. I think I see why you are voting him, I think I see the reason he is scum. You had made a one liner and I thought it was "alright", not good but it had the gist of "that's a weirdly serious first post" which I agreed with. Oatsmaster and raynpelikoneet hadn't explained their reads but that doesn't mean I cannot see they would think Trfel is scum.


Hmm I guess that makes sense.

Oats did actually vote him I didn't see that

And you just saw that just now? I didn't mention in my post that Oatsmaster had voted.


...bolded

How else would you know oats thought trefl was scum as he didn't mention him in the thread...

That was my whole point

9

I don't get it. I'm scum because I think Oatsmaster thinks Trfel is scum even though Oatsmaster hasn't said so in the thread? How does that make me scum?

He means why did you "get Oats" as you said?
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Finland43268 Posts
February 28 2015 00:20 GMT
#305
purplehaze what did you mean when you said you "get Oats"?
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February 28 2015 00:24 GMT
#308
On February 27 2015 22:28 prplhz wrote:
I think I see where you and Oatsmaster and raynpelikoneet are coming from[...]

?????????????
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February 28 2015 00:28 GMT
#311
If i have to waste one more post on this you are dead prplhz.
Why Oatsmaster? You literally said you "think you see where Oatsmaster is coming from".

so explain, what was the point?
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Finland43268 Posts
February 28 2015 00:33 GMT
#315
On February 28 2015 09:31 prplhz wrote:
16

Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 09:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If i have to waste one more post on this you are dead prplhz.
Why Oatsmaster? You literally said you "think you see where Oatsmaster is coming from".

so explain, what was the point?

I could just as well have said "I agree with you guys that Trfel is scummy". That would mean the exact same thing I meant in my post.

Can you quote Oats' post(s) from which you get this?
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February 28 2015 00:36 GMT
#320
On February 28 2015 09:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 09:31 prplhz wrote:
16

On February 28 2015 09:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If i have to waste one more post on this you are dead prplhz.
Why Oatsmaster? You literally said you "think you see where Oatsmaster is coming from".

so explain, what was the point?

I could just as well have said "I agree with you guys that Trfel is scummy". That would mean the exact same thing I meant in my post.

Can you quote Oats' post(s) from which you get this?

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Finland43268 Posts
February 28 2015 13:34 GMT
#415
Onegu
rsoultin
prplhz
Palmar
Oatsmaster
Alakaslam
IAmRobik
ritoky
VayneAuthority
Trfel
Superbia
KelsierSC
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February 28 2015 13:59 GMT
#418
Like all my townreads are clearly town. Robert is confirmed town because whenever a mod steps in with an irrelevant comment about someone's post that person is always town as people ARE going to make a read on it anyways. If Robert was mafia the co-host would not have said what he did because there is a possibility that someone makes a scumread on Robik out of the out-game comment of them, and mods do not wanna out who is mafia. That is ALWAYS it.

Trfel is mafia, it is quite clear at this point. He isn't doing anything, he hasn't got any reads.

Onego goes to the same boat, and he should have a townread on me by now. I dislike every post of his.

Oats focuses on irrelevant stuff and is not pushing anything for real. He is too passive and doesn't talk about the stuff i would expect him to. His ritoky comment was good but meh.. that's a fucking obvious conclusion about ritoky's terrible case. I am not sure if it makes ritoky mafia and i am torn on these two because i can't get a decent read on either of them. I'd say it's like 60/40 in favor of ritoky being scum, ritoky's latest posts were a bit better.

Palmar is clearly doing nothing and unfortunately that is not alignment indicative because he is Palmar. If he continues doing nothing and we can't find the last mafia just lynch the fuck outta him.

Slam's posting looks like town but because of the low quantity of his posts i can't tell for 100% sure. I actually read a lot of Slam game filters from past games yesterday because the second last game i misread him on D1 and that is something that should not happen. I kinda got it back again, i mean what makes him scum and what makes him town but i don't wanna out that yet. Leaning town on him anyways.

I got about 10 posts left and i am going to save them for tonight closer to the lynch, but this is where i stand at the moment.
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February 28 2015 14:58 GMT
#421
Palmar i'll look into your case more closely after sauna.

On the first glance it looks good and now, reading Superbia's filter again, i honestly didn't even realize how nonsensical that looks. That being said i wanna do some research on that. One thing to note though, you saying him linking rsoultin & Trfel alignments together is not necessarily scummy. I mean, that's how i caught austin in the first place in Titanic III (when he made a conclusion of one of me & Coagulation having to be mafia from our argument at the start of the game). But surprise surprise, he did the same thing in the very next game... as town. I don't think that necessarily makes anyone mafia. But in the end, the conclusion and the way Superbia ends up on it in this game looks fake. Not necessarily for the reasons you presented but for the fact that rsoultin is like the towniest townie in this town and his meta comparison on Trfel is really bad because i myself did the same thing (looked at Trfel's past games) and ended up in the opposite conclusion.
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Finland43268 Posts
February 28 2015 15:15 GMT
#424
One thing before i go though:
On February 28 2015 23:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
What do you expect me to talk about?

BTW Palmar is town and Super is totes scum.

This post is bullshit just because there is no fucking way Oats read and understood the case from Palmar in max 2 minutes.

No, fucking, way...
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Finland43268 Posts
February 28 2015 15:51 GMT
#427
Superbia when you meta'd Trfel which games did you read?
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Finland43268 Posts
February 28 2015 18:40 GMT
#442
lol
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February 28 2015 18:40 GMT
#443
On March 01 2015 03:40 KelsierSC wrote:
Seriously just delete this game and start a new one or just replace me out the game. Its fucking stupid.

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Finland43268 Posts
February 28 2015 19:14 GMT
#467
On March 01 2015 03:58 KelsierSC wrote:
Trefl,oats ,superbia scumteam inb4 reroll.

Oats is not scum. Onegu is.
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February 28 2015 19:15 GMT
#470
On March 01 2015 04:04 KelsierSC wrote:
Fine I'm mafia alongside Va and onegu.

Endgame now

lol srsly?
I kinda thought Trfel is not scum for a moment but never got to that point yet.
Onegu was scum because if he was town why would no scum push him (aside from other reasons)?
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Finland43268 Posts
February 28 2015 19:42 GMT
#495
/confirm

who was scum?
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Finland43268 Posts
February 28 2015 19:44 GMT
#498
yeah saw it.
gj Palmar.
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February 28 2015 19:47 GMT
#500
he didn't scumread you. he had no read on you...
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February 28 2015 19:48 GMT
#503
for the record this is really an annoying concept because i can't interact with people like i usually do.
so i am a bit lost. and it annoys me. maybe never gonna play a game like this again (post restrictions). It's just dumb because you prvent town using one of it's weapons -- which is figuring out shit.
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February 28 2015 19:49 GMT
#507
On March 01 2015 04:47 KelsierSC wrote:
Yeh i think rsol,palmar and rayn were all clear town and you would have probably figured the game out.

you were quite town aswell.
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Finland43268 Posts
February 28 2015 19:53 GMT
#516
On March 01 2015 04:50 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2015 04:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 01 2015 04:47 KelsierSC wrote:
Yeh i think rsol,palmar and rayn were all clear town and you would have probably figured the game out.

you were quite town aswell.
What about me?

Your latest post was townie. you gotta have clearer stances though.

@Kelsier: prplhz was really townie aswell, his answer to you fit his narrative and he was doing shit which he doesn't do in his scumgames. ^^
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February 28 2015 19:54 GMT
#520
On March 01 2015 04:52 rsoultin wrote:
we'll never know if super would have been lynched today...the possibility is good though I think ^^

I already made a post in the voting thread to change my vote. Then i just held it off to later.
I am pretty sure he would have gotten lynched as Trfel made a townie post.
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February 28 2015 20:21 GMT
#536
On March 01 2015 05:03 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2015 04:58 rsoultin wrote:
why no push case palmar o.0 it wasn't all like SUPER WONDERFUL AMAZING

but it was more than good enough for a day 1 read ^^

actually it was super wonderful amazing.

Yes it was. I could not find any meta-reference in a way or another so i decided you are right and i am gonna sheep you.
My last question in thread was just to find out more evidence.

One of the best cases i have ever read on D1, gratz man.
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March 01 2015 01:44 GMT
#560
On March 01 2015 07:22 Half the Sky wrote:
We have two more that haven't confirmed for tonight (if we start in 40 mins) besides yourself, and Oats is unlikely to be up for a few more hours.
May need to push it back one more day, but by then there will either be a replacement or it gets started Sunday night in a new thread.

rofl
ROFL
R. O. F. L.

hahabvavavavavvabd.sakjaolrf
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#561
/out
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