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On March 01 2015 08:19 Snarfs wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2015 07:56 Tronak wrote:
Nothing more...
Well I lost the focus.
Back to the point...
##vote Artanis[Xp]
Now... may I have reads on FF? (I asked you a couple of times Snarfs, I asked you too Shining). I got family stuff now so I'm gone until tomorrow probably. FF could be scum if artanis is. Otherwise I'd be more inclined to look at Tormented given FF's willingness to drop a lot of info on Tormented but switch off of artanis rather easily.
Would this be considered WIFOM to suspect FF based on snarf's comment and then him dieing after Artanis flipped scum?
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Oh I had actually missed that ^^ dunno, could be indeed.
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Pff, with me reading scum on FF and without Prob & Kelsers/Onegu inputs I miss at least 1 town's opinion since neither you, Yamato or Shining believe in my theory now. I would like to know what Eden and SL gotta say on everything.
Gotta leave now. I'll be back in 2-3 hours.
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Sicklucker who did you scan last night
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Tronak, I can't be bothered to defend myself against you anymore. Continue reading me scum, if you want, but how about we make reads on other people? Just be sure to lynch me before lylo so mafia doesn't keep you and me for a final 3.
Tronak how do you read probulous? Without mentioning me or my alignment if possible.
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Hi FF, you lied to me 3 times in 36 hours, how do you want me to not mention you??.
How come you can't defend your self if you wanna be town? You could start by answering last question I asked you:
On March 02 2015 23:35 Tronak wrote:And just catched another of his lies on page 89: Show nested quote +On March 02 2015 07:07 Fecalfeast wrote:
-I refused to give you a detailed analysis on his filter as you have been really getting on my nerves this game. I even told you to ask me questions which you did not do.
Show nested quote +On March 01 2015 04:36 Tronak wrote:On March 01 2015 04:24 Fecalfeast wrote:On March 01 2015 04:06 Tronak wrote:On March 01 2015 04:03 Fecalfeast wrote:
Oh you want my read on him now? I haven't dived his filter and have only looked at him in relation to artanis. Let me check.
I actually don't know when deadline is, I will also check that since people in this game see laziness as a scum trait. Have you already dived in Artanis filter? Yep, and since you've been so adamant about a detailed analysis I will no longer be posting an analysis. Feel free to ask questions though! been inflexible? sorry then.. I had to push you to do things as the one you just did: your analysis about Tormented. Which I liked a lot gotta say. What happens if we lynch Artanis being the player that has tunneled Tormented whole game? Is this a legit question FF or your "lazyness" made you skip it "unintentionally" too? Guys, common, I want to read Prob too, but this guy is so mafia than he even is a bad player as mafia. Lets lynch him!
Now about Probulous, I didnt want to make this work for you but since are sooooo lazy:
On March 01 2015 09:14 Tronak wrote:
EDIT: At this moment I have to save Snarfs (Artanis' 2nd target) = And I chose 5 KSC/probs/sl/FF/Shining THESE are still somehow in my paranoia, gotta think further though.
On March 02 2015 04:50 Tronak wrote:
SL>Prob>Shining would be my next targets to check, maybe Yamato to help solving tonights dilema.
On March 02 2015 06:33 Tronak wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2015 05:34 Eden1892 wrote:On March 02 2015 04:57 Tronak wrote:
Out for dinner. I'll be back and willing to share thinkings with others.
Where is Prob btw? Good question. I really need to see more production from him. The more time passes without it the more I start to think he should be scanned Well he looked town but Prob actually made 3 big errors in only 2 days: 1) Case on Damdred -> he cancelled later. However if not mistaken Yamato and specially Artanis introduced Tormentors case, while case on Damdred was still open (should check for accurity). Since Artanis turned mafia, I dont think mafia would introduce 2 different false cases at same time (would they?). So Prob should be town at this moment. 2) Pushing up your wrong case/wagon on Wave -> not alignment indicative as long Snarfs remains as town in my eyes. But it was a good place to jump in as mafia in the town-town scenary. 3) Afk vote on FF yesterday 20 minutes later of Artanis "I have flu" post. He left a very good case behind before doing this though (could this have been last bullet to save Mafia Artanis?).
On March 02 2015 09:18 Tronak wrote:
Hi Onegu, catch up as fast as you, I'll be looking forward to get ur reads.
My Scums: FF
My scummy: you, SL, Shining, Prob
My townie: the rest atm
Hitting my pillow now, read you guys tomorrow.
On March 02 2015 21:20 Tronak wrote:
So Prob + FF scenary is totally plausible IF Node played a good mafia, enough to look as towny for us. FF still havent given any reason for me took him as town. Looking forward to get more from him though.
Prob+Kel, Kel+FF, are also valid scenaries. (I could include you Shining easyly in my paranoias too).
Do you need more reads from me on Prob?
This is my scum ranking atm:
FF: *****
Prob + Onegu: ***
Shining/SL: *
Now you may want to defend your self or give us real inputs since you refused to do any real read and just sheep Eden/Yamato and spit lies all around.
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You did ask me a question, I guess I forgot. Oops.
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So I am here. Yamato has proven he is town to me by playing therefore he is steerable, but why VOTE prob over the shining? Now I haven't read prob's filter yet or seen a real case on him other than what Yamato wrote, but I thought the points on shining where better. Will look.over prob in a bit, but for now I prefer a shining lynch. My feels also had something off on her when reading.
The other thing I wanted.to.ask, need to look up who it was, but why ask if that person was RB?
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On March 02 2015 14:08 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2015 12:43 The Shining wrote:On March 02 2015 08:58 Eden1892 wrote:
ugh no time to catch up before I die
if I die:
- lynch yamato
- make Kelsier and Probulous bleed town like they did when they were active later in d1
- figure out Tormented
- don't lynch Snarfs, Shining, Tronak, sicklucker and PROBABLY not Fecalfeast UNLESS you'd otherwise lynch into the no-lynch list OK then Eden. We lynch yamato, I'm pretty onboard with that tbh, have been for a bit. Kels and Prob. Kels is no longer playing, do you intend on judging the slot off of Kelsier's large but fluffed filter or Onegu? Probulous is still MIA, thoughts on what I implied about his case on FF? Tormented - with his few posts at Day Start, any change in read? Pretty much onboard with your don't Lynch list, too, with the exception of FF for reasons I've mentioned before. But he is lower on the list than he was when I voted him. I'm judging the Kelskynegu slot on all 3 players' efforts put together. I'd probably give the bulk of the analysis to Kelsier for pretty obvious reasons, but I'm secretly hoping Onegu will spew glorious townie vibes so I can call the slot town and coast  I don't know what I think about what you said about Probulous's case on FF because I didn't read Probulous's case on FF enough to remember it well enough to evaluate your comment about it. (I remember it happening so I must have read it, but I definitely didn't pay any attention to it.) I will however go back and read it and assess your comments from there. If you're saying his case didn't have to come from town, I'm open to him being mafia, so I'm predisposed to agree Not really any change in read on Tormented. Confession, I was kinda hoping I would die and y'all would figure him out instead. I can't tell if his paranoia about me is genuine or not; if he weren't a newer player I would think it's manufactured, because I think I should be pretty obviously town by now, but he's attacking basically all the lines of argument I would expect from a paranoid newer townie ("you never live to d3 and yet here you are" comes to mind in particular). If I had to change that list I would flip Fecalfeast and sicklucker's spots on it. Actually... sicklucker, were you roleblocked last night?
Yeah here, why ask SL in particular?
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Vote Count
Probulous (4): Fecalfeast, The Shining, Eden1892, _Tormented_
Fecalfeast (1): Tronak
Not Voting (4): sicklucker, Onegu, Probulous, Yamato77
Currently, Probulous is set to be lynched. Day 3 ends in at 00:00 GMT (+00:00).
Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain.
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On March 03 2015 08:01 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2015 14:08 Eden1892 wrote:On March 02 2015 12:43 The Shining wrote:On March 02 2015 08:58 Eden1892 wrote:
ugh no time to catch up before I die
if I die:
- lynch yamato
- make Kelsier and Probulous bleed town like they did when they were active later in d1
- figure out Tormented
- don't lynch Snarfs, Shining, Tronak, sicklucker and PROBABLY not Fecalfeast UNLESS you'd otherwise lynch into the no-lynch list OK then Eden. We lynch yamato, I'm pretty onboard with that tbh, have been for a bit. Kels and Prob. Kels is no longer playing, do you intend on judging the slot off of Kelsier's large but fluffed filter or Onegu? Probulous is still MIA, thoughts on what I implied about his case on FF? Tormented - with his few posts at Day Start, any change in read? Pretty much onboard with your don't Lynch list, too, with the exception of FF for reasons I've mentioned before. But he is lower on the list than he was when I voted him. I'm judging the Kelskynegu slot on all 3 players' efforts put together. I'd probably give the bulk of the analysis to Kelsier for pretty obvious reasons, but I'm secretly hoping Onegu will spew glorious townie vibes so I can call the slot town and coast I don't know what I think about what you said about Probulous's case on FF because I didn't read Probulous's case on FF enough to remember it well enough to evaluate your comment about it. (I remember it happening so I must have read it, but I definitely didn't pay any attention to it.) I will however go back and read it and assess your comments from there. If you're saying his case didn't have to come from town, I'm open to him being mafia, so I'm predisposed to agree Not really any change in read on Tormented. Confession, I was kinda hoping I would die and y'all would figure him out instead. I can't tell if his paranoia about me is genuine or not; if he weren't a newer player I would think it's manufactured, because I think I should be pretty obviously town by now, but he's attacking basically all the lines of argument I would expect from a paranoid newer townie ("you never live to d3 and yet here you are" comes to mind in particular). If I had to change that list I would flip Fecalfeast and sicklucker's spots on it. Actually... sicklucker, were you roleblocked last night? Yeah here, why ask SL in particular?
I often ping people for answering for others but I'm bored.
SL asked who was roleblocked right away, I imagine eden thinks he was fishing for a counterclaim?
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On March 03 2015 08:03 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 08:01 Onegu wrote:On March 02 2015 14:08 Eden1892 wrote:On March 02 2015 12:43 The Shining wrote:On March 02 2015 08:58 Eden1892 wrote:
ugh no time to catch up before I die
if I die:
- lynch yamato
- make Kelsier and Probulous bleed town like they did when they were active later in d1
- figure out Tormented
- don't lynch Snarfs, Shining, Tronak, sicklucker and PROBABLY not Fecalfeast UNLESS you'd otherwise lynch into the no-lynch list OK then Eden. We lynch yamato, I'm pretty onboard with that tbh, have been for a bit. Kels and Prob. Kels is no longer playing, do you intend on judging the slot off of Kelsier's large but fluffed filter or Onegu? Probulous is still MIA, thoughts on what I implied about his case on FF? Tormented - with his few posts at Day Start, any change in read? Pretty much onboard with your don't Lynch list, too, with the exception of FF for reasons I've mentioned before. But he is lower on the list than he was when I voted him. I'm judging the Kelskynegu slot on all 3 players' efforts put together. I'd probably give the bulk of the analysis to Kelsier for pretty obvious reasons, but I'm secretly hoping Onegu will spew glorious townie vibes so I can call the slot town and coast I don't know what I think about what you said about Probulous's case on FF because I didn't read Probulous's case on FF enough to remember it well enough to evaluate your comment about it. (I remember it happening so I must have read it, but I definitely didn't pay any attention to it.) I will however go back and read it and assess your comments from there. If you're saying his case didn't have to come from town, I'm open to him being mafia, so I'm predisposed to agree Not really any change in read on Tormented. Confession, I was kinda hoping I would die and y'all would figure him out instead. I can't tell if his paranoia about me is genuine or not; if he weren't a newer player I would think it's manufactured, because I think I should be pretty obviously town by now, but he's attacking basically all the lines of argument I would expect from a paranoid newer townie ("you never live to d3 and yet here you are" comes to mind in particular). If I had to change that list I would flip Fecalfeast and sicklucker's spots on it. Actually... sicklucker, were you roleblocked last night? Yeah here, why ask SL in particular? I often ping people for answering for others but I'm bored. SL asked who was roleblocked right away, I imagine eden thinks he was fishing for a counterclaim?
That isn't true, SL said at the end of N1 that he had some information to share, he eventually said he was roleblocked. If you believe him, it just means the mafia roleblocked targetted him. Doesn't mean he has a role. I guess Eden was asking if he was roleblocked again, but I believe SL said earlier in the thread that he wasn't. He even asked if anyone was roleblocked.
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On March 03 2015 08:08 _Tormented_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 08:03 Fecalfeast wrote:On March 03 2015 08:01 Onegu wrote:On March 02 2015 14:08 Eden1892 wrote:On March 02 2015 12:43 The Shining wrote:On March 02 2015 08:58 Eden1892 wrote:
ugh no time to catch up before I die
if I die:
- lynch yamato
- make Kelsier and Probulous bleed town like they did when they were active later in d1
- figure out Tormented
- don't lynch Snarfs, Shining, Tronak, sicklucker and PROBABLY not Fecalfeast UNLESS you'd otherwise lynch into the no-lynch list OK then Eden. We lynch yamato, I'm pretty onboard with that tbh, have been for a bit. Kels and Prob. Kels is no longer playing, do you intend on judging the slot off of Kelsier's large but fluffed filter or Onegu? Probulous is still MIA, thoughts on what I implied about his case on FF? Tormented - with his few posts at Day Start, any change in read? Pretty much onboard with your don't Lynch list, too, with the exception of FF for reasons I've mentioned before. But he is lower on the list than he was when I voted him. I'm judging the Kelskynegu slot on all 3 players' efforts put together. I'd probably give the bulk of the analysis to Kelsier for pretty obvious reasons, but I'm secretly hoping Onegu will spew glorious townie vibes so I can call the slot town and coast I don't know what I think about what you said about Probulous's case on FF because I didn't read Probulous's case on FF enough to remember it well enough to evaluate your comment about it. (I remember it happening so I must have read it, but I definitely didn't pay any attention to it.) I will however go back and read it and assess your comments from there. If you're saying his case didn't have to come from town, I'm open to him being mafia, so I'm predisposed to agree Not really any change in read on Tormented. Confession, I was kinda hoping I would die and y'all would figure him out instead. I can't tell if his paranoia about me is genuine or not; if he weren't a newer player I would think it's manufactured, because I think I should be pretty obviously town by now, but he's attacking basically all the lines of argument I would expect from a paranoid newer townie ("you never live to d3 and yet here you are" comes to mind in particular). If I had to change that list I would flip Fecalfeast and sicklucker's spots on it. Actually... sicklucker, were you roleblocked last night? Yeah here, why ask SL in particular? I often ping people for answering for others but I'm bored. SL asked who was roleblocked right away, I imagine eden thinks he was fishing for a counterclaim? That isn't true, SL said at the end of N1 that he had some information to share, he eventually said he was roleblocked. If you believe him, it just means the mafia roleblocked targetted him. Doesn't mean he has a role. I guess Eden was asking if he was roleblocked again, but I believe SL said earlier in the thread that he wasn't. He even asked if anyone was roleblocked.
The bolded is literally what I said.
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On March 03 2015 08:10 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 08:08 _Tormented_ wrote:On March 03 2015 08:03 Fecalfeast wrote:On March 03 2015 08:01 Onegu wrote:On March 02 2015 14:08 Eden1892 wrote:On March 02 2015 12:43 The Shining wrote:On March 02 2015 08:58 Eden1892 wrote:
ugh no time to catch up before I die
if I die:
- lynch yamato
- make Kelsier and Probulous bleed town like they did when they were active later in d1
- figure out Tormented
- don't lynch Snarfs, Shining, Tronak, sicklucker and PROBABLY not Fecalfeast UNLESS you'd otherwise lynch into the no-lynch list OK then Eden. We lynch yamato, I'm pretty onboard with that tbh, have been for a bit. Kels and Prob. Kels is no longer playing, do you intend on judging the slot off of Kelsier's large but fluffed filter or Onegu? Probulous is still MIA, thoughts on what I implied about his case on FF? Tormented - with his few posts at Day Start, any change in read? Pretty much onboard with your don't Lynch list, too, with the exception of FF for reasons I've mentioned before. But he is lower on the list than he was when I voted him. I'm judging the Kelskynegu slot on all 3 players' efforts put together. I'd probably give the bulk of the analysis to Kelsier for pretty obvious reasons, but I'm secretly hoping Onegu will spew glorious townie vibes so I can call the slot town and coast I don't know what I think about what you said about Probulous's case on FF because I didn't read Probulous's case on FF enough to remember it well enough to evaluate your comment about it. (I remember it happening so I must have read it, but I definitely didn't pay any attention to it.) I will however go back and read it and assess your comments from there. If you're saying his case didn't have to come from town, I'm open to him being mafia, so I'm predisposed to agree Not really any change in read on Tormented. Confession, I was kinda hoping I would die and y'all would figure him out instead. I can't tell if his paranoia about me is genuine or not; if he weren't a newer player I would think it's manufactured, because I think I should be pretty obviously town by now, but he's attacking basically all the lines of argument I would expect from a paranoid newer townie ("you never live to d3 and yet here you are" comes to mind in particular). If I had to change that list I would flip Fecalfeast and sicklucker's spots on it. Actually... sicklucker, were you roleblocked last night? Yeah here, why ask SL in particular? I often ping people for answering for others but I'm bored. SL asked who was roleblocked right away, I imagine eden thinks he was fishing for a counterclaim? That isn't true, SL said at the end of N1 that he had some information to share, he eventually said he was roleblocked. If you believe him, it just means the mafia roleblocked targetted him. Doesn't mean he has a role. I guess Eden was asking if he was roleblocked again, but I believe SL said earlier in the thread that he wasn't. He even asked if anyone was roleblocked. The bolded is literally what I said.
And it was literally taken out of context without mentioning the reason Sl asked this. I was just pointing out the context.
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I get you. nvm. I'm reading things from you in a weird tone I guess.
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I think my last question to sicklucker made it pretty obvious, I think he's the cop and I would rather know that he is so I don't have to think about him anymore (and also get his scan). I don't really see any benefit in the blues hiding esp. if they're not among the obvtown, and sicklucker has been pretty obviously fishing for a cop fakeclaim that has no chance of coming at this point given the setup, so I figured he should just go ahead and out.
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isn't blue hunting a pretty scummy thing to do?
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On March 03 2015 08:53 _Tormented_ wrote:
isn't blue hunting a pretty scummy thing to do?
not inherently
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in fact i'd say it's pretty useful to be able to bluehunt as town b/c it increases your ability to evaluate role claims and read people who are "trying to be scummy so they won't be nightkilled"
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