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This is what Eden PM me before he went to bed:
Original Message From Eden1892: here's where i am on kurumi, feel free to leave your thoughts i have him down basically as a townie who got a good idea, got too excited to spring the idea, botched the execution and scrambled to find any result from it to salvage it. i think he fucked up by springing his qt's thing too soon and made the qt's not able to show a meaningful result (by springing it after only 1 extra view). once that happened, i think he might have gotten too entrenched in defending his idea to make an accurate read, and he scumread geript because it was the only thing that could keep his picture of how his idea was supposed to work intact - not because he's mafia trying to look consistent, but just that he's town that got confirmation biased with his idea [sniped]spectacular enough? 
Any ideas?
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I think that's reasonable although he is concocting a huge narrative for kurumi which could easily be incorrect.
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Sure, but even if it is correct. It has no impact on this game at all in it's current state. It isn't spectacular at all. It's just a possible true story.
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Yeah it doesn't help us lynch scum. I rather lynch sl today though. Rayn pointed out good shit. Imma unvote you. When I get on a computer
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Vote count:
Koshi (0): Oatsmaster
LightningStrike (1): Kurumi
sicklucker (3): raynpelikoneet, Eden1892, VisceraEyes, Oatsmaster
Eden1892 (1): Koshi
Snickers (2): raynpelikoneet, VisceraEyes, Eden1892, liancourt
VisceraEyes (2): sicklucker, Snickers, Snickers, Snickers
Kurumi (1): geript
Not voting (2): LightningStrike, Onegu
sicklucker is set to be lynched. Deadline is in .
Remember to vote in the voting thread.
+ Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] +VOTE: raynpelikoneet voted sicklucker ( post) VOTE: Kurumi voted LightningStrike ( post) VOTE: Oatsmaster voted Koshi ( post) VOTE: raynpelikoneet unvoted sicklucker ( post) VOTE: raynpelikoneet voted Snickers ( post) VOTE: VisceraEyes voted Snickers ( post) VOTE: Eden1892 voted Snickers ( post) VOTE: geript voted Kurumi ( post) VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted Snickers ( post) VOTE: Eden1892 voted sicklucker ( post) VOTE: liancourt voted snickers (Snickers) ( post) VOTE: sicklucker voted VisceraEyes ( post) VOTE: Snickers voted VisceraEyes ( post) VOTE: Snickers unvoted VisceraEyes ( post) VOTE: Snickers voted VisceraEyes ( post) VOTE: Snickers unvoted VisceraEyes ( post) VOTE: Snickers voted VisceraEyes ( post) VOTE: VisceraEyes unvoted Snickers ( post) VOTE: VisceraEyes voted sicklucker ( post) VOTE: Koshi voted Eden (Eden1892) ( post) VOTE: Oatsmaster unvoted Koshi ( post) VOTE: Oatsmaster voted SL (sicklucker) ( post)
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LighteningStrike
On how many devices did you connect to your QT? Are you logged in with an username?
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Snickers can you confirm?
On February 20 2015 19:06 Eden1892 wrote:
- an incident i saw in irc (no logs, gg, but snickers will confirm) where snickers was pushing him to give suspects or show anything indicating he was solving the game. liancourt just deflected pretty much everything and called snickers scum for omgusing
i'm not as confident here, because i've literally seen the second point happen to me when we were town together, but i think the two points in conjunction are good enough to lynch on.
Also when did this happen? Before or after Eden was explaining how scummy Snickers was to Oats using my reasoning?
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Yay! A couple of hours and i am home then.
Oats are you around in 2h?
Irc then if you are.
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On February 20 2015 22:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yay! A couple of hours and i am home then.
Oats are you around in 2h?
Irc then if you are.
probably,
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Umm somebody was saying I was omgusing but I forgot who. Would make sense it was lc cause I mainly talking to him and geript. Prty much I asked lc a question 3x in the thread. Asked him multiple more times in irc about it and he was skirting the question. Then I come to a perfectly valid conclusion and instead of saying anything townie back he just said dumb shit. He was avoiding the question so much haha
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Snickers are you able to get in irc in about 2h?
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On February 20 2015 21:54 Koshi wrote:
LighteningStrike
On how many devices did you connect to your QT? Are you logged in with an username?
Okay just woke up and going to answer this question 1st couple of time I wasn't logged in and my last post in my QT I was logged and I only got 1 device that I can use to connect to the QT and that is my computer.
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Basically in the QT i just read both sicklucker and liancourt were semi-defending ls (for a reason) but then were okay lynching him. Meh...
Yet still both of sl & ls fail to send me their out-thread comms they claim to have.
Fof anyone else, was i not clear enough i want them?
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Also to answer your question about my conversation with Koshi in pms here it is:
Original Message From Koshi: It sucks, he will also be a wagon. Show nested quote +Original Message From LightningStrike: Well sicklucker already made a read on me and called me town your thoughts on sicklucker calling me town on that reads post alone? Original Message From Koshi: I need people to read you. Because I can promise already that you that you will be a wagon this game. Original Message From LightningStrike: I played a ton with sicklucker but I think I been scared for life on trying to read him on Day 1 where he always look bad on Day 1 I think I would rather wait till Day 2 to figure him out where ti would be much clear on his alignment. Original Message From Koshi: Who is good at reading you in this game? With who have you played a lot? Original Message From LightningStrike: I had seen Eden play town and he did that miller thing in Horns of Africa although there isn't any Millers this game and I had played with Geript twice and he seems to be himself this game with some questioning similar tone style to his town play. Snickers really reminds me of a serious version of me and thus since I know myself I reading him town. It could be possible I might be wrong on Eden sure because of the fact that he did something like too although it was a joke vote in that game but he voted for me at the start of NYE Party but he was making a bad pun on my name so meh. He does joke around a good amount as town. Maybe later into the game I will have the game figure out better but for now that where my reads were at the time I went to bed last night. Original Message From Koshi: And you should have told him that nobody could have decent reads at that time but instead you fabricated a bunch of reads. You have to convince me that you were town fabricating reads you knew could change instantly. Because I cannot understand that you were genuinely believing that you figured the game out. On February 19 2015 14:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Town:
Eden: Played with before when he was Mafia and Town but we he seems to be town this game.
Geript: Toneread says town he seems to ask some good questions.
Snickers: Being extremely serious and giving his thoughts freely it kind of reminds me of a more serious me.
Oatsmaster: Trying to get discussions going with pms and stuff but also he just being himself as town this game.
Liancourt: He seems interested this game which is a good sign for him being town although I never him play as Mafia before.
Null:
Koshi: 1 post from him this game and it isn't really alignment indicative.
sicklucker: I can't read him anymore on Day 1 after playing with him when he was Mafia and I was town. Also his Day 1 is bad.
VisceraEyes: 1 post and wasn't alignment indicative need more posts from him.
Look at this bro. Come on. Eden is town based on what? How can you have both Eden, geript and Snickers as town? Well, I guess you can because you have everybody who posted more than once as town. But geript and Eden are both saying snickers is off. But you know snickers is town? How? Because he is serious? Really? I think you have played a lot with Eden btw. Doesn't he normally troll a bit more than this? He claimed miller and then went serious mode against snickers quickly. I think Eden might be scum jumping on town!snickers because snickers was being pretty scummy and Eden saw some easy scumhunting towncred. Yes/No/Possible? Original Message From LightningStrike: I getting you as town now that I had caught up. VE I still finding questionable but I never played with him if I recalled :| I still getting him Null. I know I going ot be wrong on some of my townreads after that point but Snickers wanted my reads at that point. Original Message From Koshi: The problem here is that you are now backtracking on your reads. So I ask you again. How certain are you about your reads? Did any reads change now you are caught up? Original Message From LightningStrike:
Well I shouldn't be so certain ya sure but it just from my experience with most of the players I getting my own tell on them based stuff they did in other games although it sucks that I only got to play with them a few times when they were Mafia: Oats in Carol of the Bells, sicklucker(Linux). Also at the time of my reads you and VE had 1 post since the opening of the game.
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I talked to Palmar he said as long it wasn't a screen shot so here it is.
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LIGHTNINGSTRIKE IS THERE A REASON I DON'T SEE YOUR PM'S WITH SICKLUCKER IN MY INBOX OR IN THREAD?
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It was only 1 pm from sicklucker so here it is since you want to see it:
Original Message From sicklucker:
im pretty positive your town for metaing eden there and your list post. Weve played enough games that I figured you out already I think so let work together
I gave a answer to it through irc and told hey can you defend me still and he told basically that I need to defend myself.
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Seriiusly shaape the fuck up and read what's been asked from yiu in thread.
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Also I sent you a pm on my skype info to you rayn.
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