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Yeah. Made me double check, bitch. >:| | ||
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Did you have your target ready before your posted your RNG post? | ||
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- Generating a random number. - Moduling this number. - Translating the number to a name on your list. - Making a follow up post. In a minute. | ||
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On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit. You think HtS is scum? | ||
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Yeah, I know. It's early for me. Fuck off. :D | ||
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On February 14 2015 18:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: No i don't i am obviously just talking shit.... What? It was all a joke or some shit? | ||
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Ryan's read was lazy and added nothing (iirc/imo). Probable scum. | ||
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I'm already town. On a lack of sleep so lacking reading comprehension. What you up to FF? | ||
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On February 15 2015 08:13 Fecalfeast wrote: I agree rayn could be scum but I also think you might be scum. Mind giving me something juicy to chew on? I'm off to work soon. I had a gut-read on you earlier but I don't really want to follow up on it right now. I'll revisit it later. Puppy guy read me town way too easily for an absolute shit reason. Feels like pocket. Feels like mafia. | ||
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On February 15 2015 08:14 LightningStrike wrote: Why so lazy? 4 1/2 hours of sleep and bz day. Also might do some doto inhouses later / work on my d&d campaign. | ||
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Then why are you using that game for reference? | ||
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On February 15 2015 08:25 LightningStrike wrote: Slam drink water not Lemonade. Superbia I called you mafia based on your opening style being similar to how you opened in Campus what you want to say about that? I don't really care about my alignment. | ||
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On February 15 2015 10:36 Breshke wrote: Why did you not expand on your rayn read straight away instead of just dropping it in the thread and leaving. Did it not feel important to you? Honestly I was kind of tired and about to go away when rayn entered the field. | ||
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On February 16 2015 12:07 LightningStrike wrote: Who you think is Mafia Eden aka TP or BH Superbia? I skimmed the thread to find out what has happened. I'm still catching up with actual reading. I had a scum-lean on puppy before, so that will have to suffice as an answer for the moment. Why are you asking this question? | ||
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In what order do actions resolve? Specifically, in what order does JK resolve versus RB? | ||
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On February 16 2015 12:17 LightningStrike wrote: Well because those two are the ones up for lynch today that's why I had asked my question. Why the fuck does it matter to you? | ||
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On February 16 2015 12:17 Superbia wrote: Are PMs received by targets of Jailkeepers and Roleblockers the same? In what order do actions resolve? Specifically, in what order does JK resolve versus RB? For next page. | ||
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On February 16 2015 12:21 LightningStrike wrote: Because we got two blue claims already and I wanted other people opinions on the situation. You are leaning scum on me. How does this progress your read? | ||
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On February 16 2015 12:34 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: This being a Blackadder game is significant in relation to that dynamic. That's all I can say. Holy shit. Sent can you answer my questions btw? | ||
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On February 16 2015 12:36 Town Puppy wrote: ...um. Someone help. I'm out if my element with flavor and this sounds big Lord Percy Percy (Tim McInnerny) is the name given to a pair of related characters. (wiki) Yup. | ||
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On February 16 2015 12:47 Blazinghand wrote: OK. are you willing to consolidate to avoid lynching me or TP? There are AFK people who aren't gonna move their vote, and scum pretending to be AFK on my wagon. I'm willing to lynch mafia. We can talk about consolidation in an hour. | ||
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On February 16 2015 12:48 LightningStrike wrote: But I still got a slight meta scum read on you it just people were calling you town instead other than Breshke and Rayn who agreed with me. I dislike Rayn and I kind of dislike Breshke atm. Trenderino? | ||
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On February 16 2015 12:55 Town Puppy wrote: Also pre-noming BH for Best Play if he flips mafia Honestly this would be on Sent. I'm sure the mafia QT is quite livid right now. I also disagree with the intervention, but will save that for post-game. | ||
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Oh, who am I kidding. I'm a fucking hero. | ||
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-LS -Kelsier -rayn -lian (why the fuck not) Lean mafia: - FF - HtS | ||
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On February 16 2015 13:11 Fecalfeast wrote: FITE ME SUPERBIA WHAT YOU GOT Lmfao. My first instinct said you were mafai. I kind of flipped on you? But my instinct reads have usually been correct. I'll save you for final 3, though I doubt I'll live to see the day. :D | ||
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On February 16 2015 13:15 Fecalfeast wrote: Save me for final three with nightkills maybe what're your townreads mr 7scum list Sort of the rest. Minus Robik. Fuck Robik. | ||
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On February 16 2015 13:15 Superbia wrote: Can everyone read LS' filter and tell me how it looks if you consider a mafia knowing both BH/puppy as being town playing on the situation? | ||
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On February 16 2015 13:12 Town Puppy wrote: I mean, flip side here, scum wouldn't know we're both JKs. They wouldn't know WHAT the fuck to do. NO ONE should know wtf to do. Given that, we have two different reactions: (1) One person ostensibly tried to see both sides of the argument and ended up siding with both players at some point before settling in on me. (2) The other person defaulted to the previous suspicion that person had on one of the two players and then abruptly switched to the other player after it became clear the initially-suspected player probably wasn't being lynched. I think it's more likely that the mafia is (2) here. You don't actually get town credit from being right about both people being JK if you let them both get lynched. In fact, nothing about this situation gets you town credit unless you're the guy to figure out that both people are JK. (SHOUTS TO SUPERFRIEND, ALSO GET DUNKED I KNEW YOU WERE TOWN) What you do end up getting is a huge pile of shit during the day after the first flip, because you waffled on both and ended up on the guy who flipped JK. It's far better for mafia to just ride the wave toward whichever JK is getting lynched, then when they flip town riding the other one - and especially if, as in (2)'s case, the other one who ends up being "confirmed scum" is conveniently the one you already suspected. No, rso is far more likely to be mafia out of the two in my view. As previously noted I will gladly vote either to save you, but our wagon should be rso. + Show Spoiler + I thought you were mafia before the claim though ;p | ||
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On February 16 2015 13:18 Breshke wrote: Why did i not make your list? You flipped your read on me. I'm weak to that sort of shit. Also I would kind of look like a garbage player if my mafia circle was too big. You're not really that town though. | ||
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On February 16 2015 13:21 Breshke wrote: Also i don't see the thing about LS playing on the situation is there any specific posts you were referring to? I'm historically bad at reading this guy Felt that way. May be biased since I was kind of reading him mafia before then. | ||
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On February 16 2015 13:25 Fecalfeast wrote: super why'd you have to roll mafia? Because I ... Damn, almost got me, sson. ;p | ||
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On February 16 2015 13:34 rsoultin wrote: Possibly. And knowing how you tunnel the shit out of people lol -shrugs- even though I don't understand how you could think this game looks like my scum game right after Horn of Africa, it's fine. If y'all want to switch to me, that's cool. I'm not a role, so assuming you both are JK, it won't hurt town. I'll vote me if that means saving BH and TP. I hate this post though. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. Read on. I already retracted it and on top of that, gave a half-assed apology. | ||
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On February 16 2015 13:41 rsoultin wrote: I don't really like an LS lynch ^^; I can't say for sure that he's town; but he just seems genuine to me. The happy posts and silly questions are what I've come to associate with him as town. Hate levels increasing. So much martyrdom. | ||
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What's your goal here? Why would you be okay with getting lynched if you were town? | ||
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On February 16 2015 13:43 liancourt wrote: Dude. your post on me looked like a desperate scum trying grab at anything and your reasoning was just bad. that's why I immediately unvoted and voted you because you so bad as hell. Get town cred for what? I was asking on the possiblilities of there being 2 JKs and you dismissed it so I voted TP and even defended you as devils advocate. HOw in the world would i get towh ncred for getting the 2 wagons right???? I get nothing it's null it's a BS reason to call someone scum and you are jsut inflating it with thread presense STOP. WHAT ARE YOU READS BESIDES BH. | ||
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On February 16 2015 13:45 liancourt wrote: FF is scum but I'm not gonna get enough votes so I'm pusshing BH who is just obvious scum to me. FF is willing to flip to both other wagons. Are these wagons town as well? | ||
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RSO is switch target. If both scum, he's proposing we switch to RSO. Hit scum. How does he explain surviving the night, ever? | ||
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On February 16 2015 13:57 Fecalfeast wrote: if one of the jks are scum and there is no second jk I'm gonna be really mad at the mods | ||
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On February 16 2015 13:59 liancourt wrote: i'm miller so there | ||
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-LS -Kelsier -rayn Lean mafia: -HtS -RSO | ||
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Perspective of mafia: Town claiming PR (cop) and getting lynched. Also RSO looks exceptionally bad. Literally does nothing when cop outs. LITERALLY NOTHING. Do we have town KP? | ||
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On February 16 2015 14:22 rsoultin wrote: -snorts- That would be significant if there was any reason to believe lian's claim. Where'd you go after asking who Rowan Atkinson is? | ||
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On February 16 2015 14:37 rsoultin wrote: Went to look up what it was? Then just saw the shitfest going on. 2JKs+cop really didn't make sense, so I'm not sure why this is strange to y'all. You think I'm gonna take a dive for someone I don't think is a town PR? lol that's amusing xP I don't feel like you're interested in anyone's alignment this game. | ||
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I think you're mafia. Probably. | ||
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On February 16 2015 21:41 IAmRobik wrote: These two posts are within a span of 7 minutes. They're quite contrasting. One makes it seem like you TR'd lian and didn't want him lynched. The other is a mockery of his play with the underlying assumption that he's scum. Second was a mockery of RSO's play, not Lian's. | ||
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I am the veterinarian! | ||
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So Vig should claim if he shot Kelsier, or we can assume with certainty that SK put KP on Kelsier (ez JK dodge). | ||
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On February 18 2015 05:38 Fecalfeast wrote: Are you SK? I feel like you're SK for some reason Well I did eat a bullet. | ||
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On February 18 2015 05:42 Fecalfeast wrote: It just seems weird that your play as vet would be to draw a bullet from town rather than scum is all What? Town shot me? | ||
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Blue is the mafia son. But yeah, I had a PR or mafia read on you N1. Which is why I did not want to elaborate on it. Now that it's clear you're not the cop I don't really care that much tbh. | ||
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On February 18 2015 05:44 Fecalfeast wrote: Why would mafia shoot you? I'm confused I thought it was established that most likely mafia shot TP and sk shot kelly Mafia has second KP through their special 3 single-use power's role. How are you so certain that kelsier was shot by SK and not by a vigi? | ||
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On February 18 2015 05:45 Fecalfeast wrote: Explain why you were a good mafia shot, please. Leave out the part where you used google. I used google. In addition, I was townie as fuck. 95% of the people were reading me town. Also I used google. Twice. | ||
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On February 18 2015 05:48 Fecalfeast wrote: I'm not, I just don't see what value you had to be shot for is all Everyone was reading me town. | ||
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On February 18 2015 06:06 Fecalfeast wrote: I dislike meta reads sorry. Unless he has some obvious tell then I'd rather you just pointed it out to me His mafia filter is 4 pages long for 3 days, including a defense as he was getting lynched. His filter is 8 pages here coming into d2. Those are numbers. Fuck em. His mafia filter reads very forced and tedious, his filter here not so much. Just fucking look at the post style jesus fuck. :D | ||
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On February 18 2015 06:11 ritoky wrote: it's posts like this. you call someone wifoming, then you proceed to wifom, then justify your reads with wifom of a dead person, then display TMI but qualify it with "under the assumption". What's TMI in her post? | ||
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On February 18 2015 06:13 ritoky wrote: to me it looks like she know who killed who. There were multiple theories coming from multiple people, including myself. Why are you pinging HtS? | ||
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- Ritoky - RSO - Slam | ||
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On February 18 2015 06:16 ritoky wrote: here's me doing it to LS I do it when I notice it. I noticed that one, because it had a lot of certainty in it, i.e. grounded in real knowledge not speculation. | ||
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What's the point, though? EBWOP | ||
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On February 19 2015 06:26 Blazinghand wrote: I considered you. Also, it's interesting you got RBed. Would mafia have 2x RBer then? Probably puppy. Someone mentioned puppy should JK palmar during n1 iirc. Might've been Palmar himself. | ||
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On February 19 2015 06:27 Fecalfeast wrote: She just said I'm still mafia bro. Do you think I'm mafia? *puppydog eyes* Eh. Not sure. I've been pretty busy and I'm pretty exhausted every time I can play. | ||
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On February 19 2015 06:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: or rather, if bh and eden are town, why would mafia roleblock BH and shoot eden? WHY? Possibility of one JK yolo-saving the other. | ||
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On February 19 2015 09:24 Palmar wrote: I'm pretty sure that was rayn's version of claiming mafia and saying fuck it. Maybe hoping that the cop (if we have one) is a moron and ccs to give his team a free shot. Yeah that's basically where I'm at. Or he's a town doing dumb shit. But I doubt it. I had to play mafia vs his town once and it was quite scary. His presence has been nowhere this game. | ||
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On February 19 2015 14:40 rsoultin wrote: TLDR: scum could do this but only scum!BH is clever enough so superbia is town This is, quite frankly, insulting. | ||
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On February 19 2015 22:19 rsoultin wrote: This is, quite frankly, what BH said if you actually read what he posted xP It's still insulting. >:| | ||
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On February 19 2015 22:29 rsoultin wrote: Lol, also, I really want to lynch BH. Like my brain says nah, don't be dumb, and it's probably just the smug ass attitude while he trolls around and barely contributes, but I really want to lynch him. Someone explain why again it would break the game if the mods suggested there could be two JKs, that BH may actually not be one of them? Also, kinda like Superbia's filter, though I remember you being a ton more helpful the last game I played with you, Super. Yeah. I haven't been as invested in this game as I wanted to. The fact that all my d1 reads were wrong are kind of of-putting. I'll see if I can leave a legacy tonight (though there's a decent chance I won't die) that accurately encompasses the entire scum-team + SK. All this talk about good players makes me hungry for a bit of spotlight. :D | ||
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On February 19 2015 22:53 rsoultin wrote: It's supoku, Palmar xP Eh, I don't know, is it really acceptable for the mod to confirm anyone in these games? That seems like poor modding and I had a higher opinion of Sent than that. Either way it's completely fucked up. But BH definitely needs to be town here. The only reason Sent would intervene there is if BH was town JK. The game was about to be ruined because no one (except scum, probably) knew about the double JK thing. As such, town was headed towards lynching 2 PRs in a row. It would've been massively fucked up and people would be mad at Sent. Honestly I think the game needed a reset after the reveal, but again, that's for postgame. | ||
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On February 19 2015 23:16 Half the Sky wrote: Superbia, I think I might know who the SK is. But we need that SK for the anti-swing and unless I failed in my alignment tally early this morning I don't want to risk him getting shot. Or if he gets shot, does that KP resolve simultaneously? Reveal it at :59 or something, before EoN deadline. I think all KP resolves simultaneously. | ||
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On February 20 2015 12:18 Fecalfeast wrote: ........................................................... You play EDH, as in you don't call it commander, and I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT? You do now. :D | ||
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On February 20 2015 12:22 Fecalfeast wrote: Do you play for fun or do you hear "Ok turn 1, I'll play a plains, sol ring, lightning greaves, mox opal, tap the mox opal for white and play serra ascendant, attach the greaves and swing for 30" in your nightmares like me? Nah. Our playgroup is pretty chill and casual. Though we do all run sol ring. Usually the first 5 turns are spend playing lands. We also mostly play multiplayer. | ||
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On February 20 2015 12:31 Fecalfeast wrote: Make your post anyway. I'm still on the fence about you as the SK Yeah, no shit. I'm still deciding on my circles atm. D/w, you're on the townie side. | ||
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BH asked earlier what I thought about Palmar. He's active and mirroring some/most of my thoughts. That being said, I feel like he's somewhat different from the last I played with him in which we were both town (PYP). Can't really explain it well. He might be mafia playing very well (fear lyncherino). | ||
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- BH - ritoky - Robik - FF - VA (literally sheeping this read) SK: - Damdred Which leaves: - HtS - rsoultin - LS - Palmar - Slam - prplhz So HtS made a case earlier on FF which she then easily abandoned to sheep a case on Rayn. I don't believe a townie would put so much time/energy into a case on someone just to easily abandon it like she did. But on the other hand she has put a lot of time into the game. Mafia pile bc yolo. RSO has seemed paranoid and active as well. I called her out for afking during the EoD1 crucial time, in which a VT claimed cop and got lynched. This was exceptionally scummy, but her play otherwise has been fine. Town pile because her thought process makes sense, I guess. LS first seemed like mafia, but people defended him and called him town. His filter seems way different compared to his mafia filter, though it was a long time ago. The slip is idk. I prefer not to base my reads on those, since it can be interpreted in several ways (maybe being dumb since it's 5 am). Town after all I guess. Gotta stick to those god-meta-reads. Palmar seems town but a bit different for some reason. It seems like he's leading and being loud, but the presence doesn't seem to be completely there for some reason. It may just be my disconnect with the game. Maybe town maybe good mafia. Slam seems different from PYP game. No interactivity with town. Does his own thing. Slam is mafia. prplhz is wat. Mafia. | ||
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Ritoky is town because he seems to be genuinely paying attention. Also he seemed town d1. Robik seems angry and therefore. Honestly I came to EoN to call him scum but I read his filter and it seems townie. Especially compared to PYP, where he was scum. Might be underestimating his scum play. But I don't have a lot of time. FF I read as PR/Mafia early on. Reread his filter and he seemed town. I kind of have a town soulread on FF which has not come to fruition this game. Gut says he might be mafia, head says he's town. Sticking to head on this one. VA is called town by people who claim to read him. I read his d1 filter and seemed to agree with almost everything he said, which is why I read him town independently. I'm not sure why he's been very lurky. | ||
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Revisit the following: - The BH/TP claim debacle. I have wanted to look more into this and see how people interact. Expect scum to be not very loud but willing to join the wagon on BH. They will likely have no new input on the wagon. - The liancourt lynch. Liancourt claimed cop at the EoD, while he was VT. Look at the people who interacted with this lynch and how. - The wagon switch from FF to rayn. The ease with which this happened and with which the wagons were formed makes it feel like it went from a town to a town wagon. Look at the people who were happy with sheeping the votes. | ||
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On February 20 2015 13:12 rsoultin wrote: Looks like probably our biggest disconnect is ritoky. He also seems to be your strongest townread. Why am I wrong on him? He's not really my strongest town-read per say. I read him town d1 because he seemed different from when I was mafia with him. I feel like he's more salty when he's mafia, he hasn't been this game. The fact that he pinged out LS on the HtS thing makes it feel like he's paying attention to the game. His lack of presence on d2 is not alignment indicative to me. | ||
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On February 20 2015 13:17 Half the Sky wrote: Good morning. And Rasputin, it's not just you. Why do you think I'm tallying people's scumteams? We're in mylo and the BS I'm seeing from some people here (notably Ritoky and Blazinghand) tonight is borderline hilarious. How many people are scumreading Ritoky again? Quite a few people. There's a reason for that. What's your reason? | ||
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On February 20 2015 13:27 Half the Sky wrote: "list-list" as in my list or Rasputin's? We have Ritoky and prplhz in common as scumreads if you mean the latter. I was asking for your list. Then I realized it was already on the list-list. | ||
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I feel like there has been no pressure on him whatsoever this game. Easy pressure point for scum. Especially since low post-count would imply likely PR if he's town. | ||
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On February 20 2015 13:42 Superbia wrote: I feel like there has been no pressure on him whatsoever this game. Easy pressure point for scum. Especially since low post-count would imply likely PR if he's town. Like people mention ritoky (as being mafia) for a lack of presence. What about prplhz then? | ||
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On February 21 2015 06:35 ritoky wrote: 1) what is wrong with the LS vote? 2) why the hell would you ever vote on some1 who is en route to be modkilled? I don't think LS is scum. What's the status on prplhz? Is he set to be modkilled, replaced or warned? | ||
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On February 21 2015 06:36 Fecalfeast wrote: new scum strat, afk until 5 mins before deadline so nobody votes me for being en route to be modkilled Not entirely unfeasible, but this is not MYLO. Also there's a replacement ready in the player list. | ||
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It's in my filter. His filter seems very similar to his town game and absolutely dissimilar to his scum game. I would be fine with you starting a wagon on him and seeing how it plays out. | ||
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On February 21 2015 06:43 ritoky wrote: I did over 24 hours ago? Did you not read pages 158-161? I put NOTICE in caps that everyone needs to read it. Yeah, I noticed it, and it's what put you on my town circle (after you feel off early d2). Rereading complete context atm and seeing how Damdred's interaction fits in. | ||
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On February 21 2015 06:45 Blazinghand wrote: Yeah and I'll be shot, which will make me even MORE confirmed! I don't mind that outcome for tonight I think this is going to happen a 100% tonight anyway. | ||
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Breshke EoD1: Willing to move vote to RSO, not LS. Also Breshke had weak-ass reads on you. Looking at Damd's filter, he does interact with the slip situation, but it is weak, and his line of questioning seem to indicate that he would rather implicate the people doubting the slip than the people involved in the slip. | ||
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On February 21 2015 09:35 VayneAuthority wrote: There is no cop in this game, The millers are just for show. I am pretty certain on the setup at this point. Vig should claim ASAP to help solve the game. I doubt there's a vig at this point in time. I also don't think there is a cop. | ||
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On February 21 2015 07:08 LightningStrike wrote: I just going to quote my case on JAT being Mafia so you can read it: Brb making case on Slam. What happened to this? | ||
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On February 22 2015 09:43 LightningStrike wrote: Slam is Slam you wont figure him out I feel. What you thought of my case on prplhz? I'm wondering what happened to your case on slam. Why did you switch to prplhz? | ||
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On February 22 2015 09:56 LightningStrike wrote: Oh wtf you misread my entire post of my list post. rsoultin Palmar and FF I had a meta read as town. What does "POE out of META from being Antitown" mean then? | ||
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I'm not on the vote list. I've been replaced by damdred. :D | ||
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Never mentions: prplhz Barely mentions: Palmar, VA | ||
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On February 22 2015 11:06 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Oh I gotchu, was just looking at wrong filter and had a brain fart. Pretend it says superbia, i'm not editing Worst mod ever. >:| | ||
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Ask to be IPbanned or something. | ||
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On February 22 2015 11:20 rsoultin wrote: Did this revelation come from my earlier post detailing just that? xP Which is why I'm considering LS hard right now as a player Breshke townread but didn't interact with? This revelation is fresh as fuck (at least to me). Prplhz is never mentioned by breshke. | ||
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On February 22 2015 11:25 rsoultin wrote: Oh, btw, there's an interesting gem I noticed in reading LS' filter where ritoky mentioned that he "can" tunnel as either alignment. Which put me in mind of reading the scum QT after Carol where ritoky justified tunnel bussing HF by saying that he always tunnels as town. Something that makes me think that ritoky may be our third party if this is a departure from both his town and scum games. I really like this conclusion. I had not considered it before, but I kind of like Ritoky as SK. | ||
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On February 22 2015 11:27 rsoultin wrote: ;o; not reading my posts. meanie Okay, well, what about VA's point? I do get that scum can buss...hell I bussed the shit out of JAT when hardly anyone else was to get the cop to claim. A clever play but lol ultimately not the best one. The point is, usually doesn't bussing occur either when the main wagon is so strong it's low risk, or when scum is the main wagon and there's little-to-no hope of saving a scummate? I don't think prplhz's vote qualifies as either. I'd definitely vote him over LS right now, though, pending a closer read of ritoky's case. VA's point made me read him town, he has a good point, but I want to see some pressure on prplhz. I have so many town-reads right now it's not even funny. | ||
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On February 22 2015 07:50 Palmar wrote: please no shenanigans. I know there is not a single vote on me but I just feel the shennies lurking around the corner. I WILL defend myself if put under pressure as town. It's objectively bad play to not give myself a chance to do so. This post annoys the shit out me. | ||
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On February 22 2015 11:41 Fecalfeast wrote: super did you comment on my palmar stuff? I just read it. I actually really like the interaction between Palmar and Damdred part. I hate the last post in Palmar's filter because I wanted to propose a lynch on him. Feels like he's softing PR. | ||
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On February 22 2015 11:48 Fecalfeast wrote: SK can eat bullets in the same way superbia ate a bullet you didn't look at that in context SK can pick between being immune to cop-reads or being one-shot bulletproof. | ||
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On February 22 2015 11:50 rsoultin wrote: And he would know that at the beginning of the game, how? I agree that it seems rather TMI. It's just a added note for now. The SK is bulletproof for sure. Would SK!Palmar flip-flop his reads on Damdred to leave no trail for his shot? | ||
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That's actually true.. Sent would have to balance the PRs after the SK chose his role. It's possible but meh? I guess nothing is excluded. | ||
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On February 22 2015 11:54 Fecalfeast wrote: How do you know the SK is bulletproof mr."I got shot"? Actually giving the SK the option to be immune to checks in a game with no cop seems mean as fuck. | ||
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- mafia RB on BH. - mafia KP on TP. - 50% mafia KP on me, who is universally town read. Or mafia had a PR read on KSC and the 50% KP was put on TP??? Very unlikely. | ||
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On February 22 2015 12:03 Fecalfeast wrote: Which has been discussed two times before this? I think so. I know palmar mentioned it and so did I Yeah, I forgot. I think I'd be okay with a Palmar lynch, maybe. | ||
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On February 22 2015 12:57 Blazinghand wrote: are we really not lynching LS? also superbia could easily be SK, but we're not lynching him today anyways. universally non-mafia read, not universally townread words, words, words I'd propose a JK on me tonight if I was the SK? | ||
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On February 22 2015 13:06 prplhz wrote: i mean look at the people caring that i'm suddenly getting lynched over LS. it's really just BH who has the slightest problem with it, everybody else is like "whatevs". Who are you scum reading? | ||
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On February 22 2015 13:09 prplhz wrote: FF palmar rito rso yes i know there's one too many What happened to slam? | ||
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On February 22 2015 13:11 Blazinghand wrote: saying something doesn't make it true The fact that you made this statement is pretty awful. Any player on my level wouldn't make this statement. Now that you've said it, me JKing you this night does nothing since the SK would shoot at you (shot gets blocked, you get lynched tomorrow). If you never mentioned this it would have worked, and obviously I as a high level player was going to Jail you tonight. You fool. You utter fool. Or of course you're SK and now if I JK you there's an excuse for no KP going through. Uh-uh. | ||
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I don't know. Gut. I'm doubting on prplhz, especially after the shit VA brought up. | ||
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On February 22 2015 13:24 Blazinghand wrote: Prplhx had e good chance to flip scum. I will shed no tears for him. Nonetheless ls is a better lynch and so is VA Nicely deflected. I have no interest in lynching you today, worry not If SK is confident in taking me into end-game I'll be more than happy. If we reach final 3 or something like that I'll be confirmed due to set up information. | ||
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On February 22 2015 13:37 Blazinghand wrote: Slam town, Palmar scummish but not on the top of my lynch chart. Who's LS with? | ||
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On February 22 2015 13:38 rsoultin wrote: Why do you think prplhz is town? The vote on Breshke earlier? That's like...my only reservation whatsoever right now. He's sounding town, kind of. Also VA's point was pretty solid. Also no one is fucking doubting this lynch. | ||
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On February 22 2015 13:45 prplhz wrote: superbia tell me why fecalfeast isn't scum just 2 paragraphs my eyes hurt His points on Palmar were good. His playstyle kind of fits my soul-read on him. But it was doubtful. He said some stuff later that made me townread him, not much has changed. I may be completely wrong here, but I'm not willing to yolo-switch to him. | ||
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On February 22 2015 13:51 Half the Sky wrote: Palmar? Do we have at least 4 on him? LS. Maybe. | ||
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On February 22 2015 13:53 Blazinghand wrote: I'm shirtless from the waist down it would enrage you, though, wouldn't it? It would impress me. And I would be a little disappointed with Sent. | ||
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On February 22 2015 13:59 LightningStrike wrote: If Palmar flips town you know what I will say to you guys. I hope it's a death-gurgle during the night then. x: | ||
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So here are the people that are confirmed not mafia if neither LS or prplhz is the JoaT: - FF - RSO - HtS The fact that neither prplhz or LS wanted to switch to Palmar implies that at least one of them is scum. I honestly believe it's prplhz, but it may very well be LS (#1 helpful insights). I really hope the SK shoots LS tonight, since a lot of the game revolves around his alignment. I think he probably is town though. Let's move on to scum. So 1 between prplhz and LS seems likely. 4th scum is probably slam. SK is probably ritoky, small possibility of FF. | ||
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1. Don't say anything: Town basically straight up loses because it is very likely that at least one, if not both the JKs get lynched. Worst case scenario, imo. 2. Say something: This sucks for mafia because there are basically two mod-confirmed town right off the bat (even though a part of town still doubted this until the very end), on the flip side both the save roles are outed. Town-favored, since it mod confirms two town and prevents mafia from fake claiming their roles at any point. 3. Say something and restart the game: I think this might have been a decent solution, since it was only day 1. This gives both town and mafia some insight as to what the set up is. However, it is still town-favored since the exact number of roles are now known so a fake claim is slightly harder. I think the best way to prevent this sort of situation is to tell both JKs that there is another JK in their role PM. | ||
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On February 25 2015 20:28 Palmar wrote: If town is moronic enough to lynch off setup speculations, that's their problem. Not mine. They both got the exact same role names. I don't know, maybe town needed a hard wake up call in this regard. But then we'd have townies bringing heat to Sent in post-game. | ||
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On February 25 2015 20:29 marvellosity wrote: This really is town's problem to deal with. Flavour is always just flavour, and there was nothing in the ruleset preventing there being 2 JKs. The compensation for the difficulty in understanding there are 2 JKs is, well, the fact that town has 2 god-damn JKs. Town just needs to apply logic + reads. Does scumBH claim JK in that spot? (maybe) Does he have the appropriate crumbs ready? Does scumEden counterclaim JK in that spot for a bizarro 1 for 1? Does this ever happen, ever? (hint: no) The setup allows for 7 medics and 3 vigilantes, it's up to town to sort out who is what and why. The problem for me was that BH's claim came out of nowhere. I'm not sure why town was so eager to jump on a wagon though. In retrospect and in light of Palmar and your arguments respectively, I think it may have been better to have town just suicide in order to learn. I'd like to imagine I would disassemble the wagons regardless of the mod post. I did not really believe either of the claims were mafia coming into the thread. Maybe too much fantasy, though. :D | ||
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On February 25 2015 20:36 Palmar wrote: This is the reasons I create setups with a mason. A single mason, who can talk to all the other masons. All of who are himself. Remarkable, no doubt. :D Also, Sent, the spreadsheet link is broken. | ||
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On February 25 2015 20:37 rsoultin wrote: lol I just called TP stupid for CCing there. Why does doc CC on Day 1 anyway? JK/doc, whatever. I just 100% wouldn't. You're useless doing that even if you believe the other guy is mafia. I never understand this. Like Slam, he played his role perfectly. Didn't bother with CCing the fake cop claims, just kept plugging along. 1v1 trade with mafia is always favorable for town. I do agree that you should evaluate the claim appropriately, but it might lose you the game and catch you flak during post-game. | ||
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On February 25 2015 20:44 rsoultin wrote: no, I agree that a 1v1 trade with mafia is favorable for town so if you're in mylo, great, but day 1? you still have the chance to gain more lynches due to good doctoring plus you already know a scum so you can learn a lot just watching them eh, but I guess not everyone agrees with that If you encounter a good mafia fake claim and you let the claim go unchecked it's very possible you're gonna get rekt if you do that. x: Like you're literally losing a lynch and missing the opportunity to lynch confirmed mafia. If your role gets claimed and you think the person claiming is mafia, you CC 100%. | ||
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I paid too much respect to the opinions of people who put a lot of time into the game (including rso), and it really fucked up my d2 play (though my d1 play was quite shit as well). Next time I'm going to be adamant about my own opinion. Also, I'm going to pay more attention to rayn's reads if/after he's confirmed town. | ||
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On February 25 2015 21:04 marvellosity wrote: I'm not sure this is what you should be taking away really. It's good to listen to other people. Your problem would be (if I go by this paragraph alone) that you were putting faith in someone with a lot of posts and not correctly being suspicious of their motives. Listening to others is dandy, just make sure they're town first The problem was mostly that I was listening to people because I thought they had put a lot of time into the game, even though I was disagreeing with what they were saying. I agree that listening and cooperating with people is key to the game, but that time put into the game is a wrong metric to follow (it was mostly guilt that I had put less time into the game than others, which led me to pursue my own reads less because I felt it would be unfair). | ||
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On February 25 2015 21:05 rsoultin wrote: super, you played well, no worries i'm looking forward to playing with you when we're both town again ^^ Thanks, but I could have played better. Always looking to improve for next game. | ||
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On February 25 2015 21:18 ritoky wrote: Some people try harder as town, some people try harder as mafia. People's investment in the game should not be alignment indicative unless they have a very distinct meta that someone who has played lots with them can elaborate on and give reasonable evidence for. Also as town, err on the side of suspicion. Absolutely. I know this as well, but for guilt-reasons I was unwilling to step on toes. Never again. | ||
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