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Superbia
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February 12 2015 17:35 GMT
#76
/in
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Superbia
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February 14 2015 09:03 GMT
#361
What's up boys.
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Superbia
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February 14 2015 09:05 GMT
#364
On February 14 2015 18:03 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On February 14 2015 18:03 Superbia wrote:
What's up boys.

You're in this?


Yeah. Made me double check, bitch. >:|
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Superbia
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February 14 2015 09:22 GMT
#365
I'm just going to go ahead and call someone mafia:

raynpelikoneet
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Superbia
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February 14 2015 09:24 GMT
#367
It's fun and there's a decent chance I might be right. :D
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Superbia
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February 14 2015 09:26 GMT
#369
It's not RNG.
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Superbia
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February 14 2015 09:29 GMT
#371
Yo BH.

Did you have your target ready before your posted your RNG post?
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Superbia
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February 14 2015 09:38 GMT
#373
The fact that I'm asking underlines my shock at you being able to follow up your RNG explanation post with:

- Generating a random number.
- Moduling this number.
- Translating the number to a name on your list.
- Making a follow up post.

In a minute.
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Superbia
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Netherlands8889 Posts
February 14 2015 09:43 GMT
#376
I'm not doubting your math. I'm doubting the genuineness behind the RNG.
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Superbia
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February 14 2015 09:44 GMT
#377
Why did you feel the need to split up the explanation post and the post with the actual RNG?
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Superbia
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February 14 2015 09:47 GMT
#381
Oh nvm, rofl.
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Superbia
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February 14 2015 09:48 GMT
#382
I thought he used an online RNG or some shit.
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Superbia
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February 14 2015 09:49 GMT
#383
On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit.


You think HtS is scum?
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Superbia
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February 14 2015 09:50 GMT
#385
On February 14 2015 18:49 Blazinghand wrote:
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On February 14 2015 18:43 Superbia wrote:
I'm not doubting your math. I'm doubting the genuineness behind the RNG.

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On February 14 2015 18:44 Superbia wrote:
Why did you feel the need to split up the explanation post and the post with the actual RNG?

ಠ_ಠ


Yeah, I know. It's early for me. Fuck off. :D
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Superbia
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February 14 2015 09:55 GMT
#387
On February 14 2015 18:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:
On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit.


You think HtS is scum?

No i don't i am obviously just talking shit....


What? It was all a joke or some shit?
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Superbia
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Netherlands8889 Posts
February 14 2015 23:04 GMT
#683
I'm here boys.
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Superbia
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February 14 2015 23:10 GMT
#687
So my read on rayn was somewhat serious. I read HtS town for the miller claim. Why? Because it was claimed literally a minute into the game. HtS is fairly new to TL mafia (iirc), and not a veteran. Is a non-veteran player going to claim miller without consulting his or her team mates first? Doubtful. It seems like a solo initiative. Is a non-vet SK going to put a spotlight on himself early on? Also doubtful.

Ryan's read was lazy and added nothing (iirc/imo). Probable scum.
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Superbia
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February 14 2015 23:12 GMT
#688
On February 15 2015 08:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On February 15 2015 08:04 Superbia wrote:
I'm here boys.

Be more town.
Thx


I'm already town. On a lack of sleep so lacking reading comprehension. What you up to FF?
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Superbia
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February 14 2015 23:13 GMT
#691
Someone talk to me because I don't really have the energies to read deep into these posts atm. I'll give team of 4 (>= 2) mafai tomorrow, promise.
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Superbia
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February 14 2015 23:15 GMT
#695
On February 15 2015 08:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On February 15 2015 08:12 Superbia wrote:
On February 15 2015 08:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 15 2015 08:04 Superbia wrote:
I'm here boys.

Be more town.
Thx


I'm already town. On a lack of sleep so lacking reading comprehension. What you up to FF?

I agree rayn could be scum but I also think you might be scum. Mind giving me something juicy to chew on? I'm off to work soon.


I had a gut-read on you earlier but I don't really want to follow up on it right now. I'll revisit it later. Puppy guy read me town way too easily for an absolute shit reason. Feels like pocket. Feels like mafia.
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Superbia
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February 14 2015 23:16 GMT
#697
On February 15 2015 08:14 LightningStrike wrote:
Why so lazy?


4 1/2 hours of sleep and bz day. Also might do some doto inhouses later / work on my d&d campaign.
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Superbia
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February 14 2015 23:19 GMT
#698
Puppy how comfortable are you calling me town? Were you in the Imperial Game? Or whichever one you referred to.
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Superbia
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February 14 2015 23:20 GMT
#702
On February 15 2015 08:20 Town Puppy wrote:
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On February 15 2015 08:19 Superbia wrote:
Puppy how comfortable are you calling me town? Were you in the Imperial Game? Or whichever one you referred to.

no

You can be town though


Then why are you using that game for reference?
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Superbia
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February 14 2015 23:22 GMT
#706
Like I literally did nothing that game. Way better games to look at.
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Superbia
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February 14 2015 23:24 GMT
#708
Slammerino, how you feel about your alignment this game? Any answer barring chupazi will do.
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Superbia
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February 14 2015 23:26 GMT
#711
On February 15 2015 08:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Slam drink water not Lemonade. Superbia I called you mafia based on your opening style being similar to how you opened in Campus what you want to say about that?


I don't really care about my alignment.
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Superbia
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February 14 2015 23:27 GMT
#713
Also I had that campus line set up regardless of alignment. So yeah.
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Superbia
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February 15 2015 01:34 GMT
#756
I'm around now for a little bit. What's up breshke?
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Superbia
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February 15 2015 01:39 GMT
#759
On February 15 2015 10:36 Breshke wrote:
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On February 15 2015 10:34 Superbia wrote:
I'm around now for a little bit. What's up breshke?


Why did you not expand on your rayn read straight away instead of just dropping it in the thread and leaving. Did it not feel important to you?


Honestly I was kind of tired and about to go away when rayn entered the field.
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Superbia
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February 15 2015 01:43 GMT
#761
I don't really like elaborating on reads until necessary.
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Superbia
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February 15 2015 01:49 GMT
#762
Gonna bail soon. D/w, I'll go ham after I get some decent sleep.
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Superbia
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February 16 2015 03:06 GMT
#1307
Excuse my tardiness. I'm here.
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Superbia
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February 16 2015 03:10 GMT
#1311
On February 16 2015 12:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Who you think is Mafia Eden aka TP or BH Superbia?


I skimmed the thread to find out what has happened. I'm still catching up with actual reading.

I had a scum-lean on puppy before, so that will have to suffice as an answer for the moment. Why are you asking this question?
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Superbia
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February 16 2015 03:14 GMT
#1315
I realize they both claimed JK. That doesn't answer my question.
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Superbia
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February 16 2015 03:17 GMT
#1320
Are PMs received by targets of Jailkeepers and Roleblockers the same?

In what order do actions resolve? Specifically, in what order does JK resolve versus RB?
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Superbia
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February 16 2015 03:18 GMT
#1321
On February 16 2015 12:17 LightningStrike wrote:
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On February 16 2015 12:14 Superbia wrote:
I realize they both claimed JK. That doesn't answer my question.

Well because those two are the ones up for lynch today that's why I had asked my question.


Why the fuck does it matter to you?
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Superbia
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February 16 2015 03:18 GMT
#1322
On February 16 2015 12:17 Superbia wrote:
Are PMs received by targets of Jailkeepers and Roleblockers the same?

In what order do actions resolve? Specifically, in what order does JK resolve versus RB?


For next page.
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Superbia
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February 16 2015 03:21 GMT
#1325
On February 16 2015 12:21 LightningStrike wrote:
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On February 16 2015 12:18 Superbia wrote:
On February 16 2015 12:17 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 16 2015 12:14 Superbia wrote:
I realize they both claimed JK. That doesn't answer my question.

Well because those two are the ones up for lynch today that's why I had asked my question.


Why the fuck does it matter to you?

Because we got two blue claims already and I wanted other people opinions on the situation.


You are leaning scum on me. How does this progress your read?
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Superbia
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February 16 2015 03:34 GMT
#1332
I'm on p52 and I feel like I have this game 90% solved. What's up sons.
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Superbia
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February 16 2015 03:36 GMT
#1337
On February 16 2015 12:34 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
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On February 16 2015 12:23 Town Puppy wrote:
On February 16 2015 12:17 Breshke wrote:
TP why do you just shutdown BH's post about there being a possible 2 JK's. If you arn't up to date with the game why is it impossible for you to think if you are town BH could also be town.

I could understand this if you had been scum reading him beforehand but you haven't in fact you seemed to be happy to go along with his RNG lynch for a while so you couldn't have thought he was that scummy.

If BH had never claimed or had claimed a different role would you be scum reading him right now?

Because

(1) Two jailers is really weird from a design standpoint IMO. I've never seen or heard of it.
(2) Two jailers with the same name borders on bastard game. Read the flavor in the OP. the PRs are clearly individual characters. Why would there be flavor indicating the PRs are unique persons... In a game with multiple copies of one role?

This being a Blackadder game is significant in relation to that dynamic.

That's all I can say.


Holy shit. Sent can you answer my questions btw?
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Superbia
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February 16 2015 03:36 GMT
#1338
Scratch that.
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Superbia
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February 16 2015 03:37 GMT
#1339
On February 16 2015 12:36 Town Puppy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 12:34 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On February 16 2015 12:23 Town Puppy wrote:
On February 16 2015 12:17 Breshke wrote:
TP why do you just shutdown BH's post about there being a possible 2 JK's. If you arn't up to date with the game why is it impossible for you to think if you are town BH could also be town.

I could understand this if you had been scum reading him beforehand but you haven't in fact you seemed to be happy to go along with his RNG lynch for a while so you couldn't have thought he was that scummy.

If BH had never claimed or had claimed a different role would you be scum reading him right now?

Because

(1) Two jailers is really weird from a design standpoint IMO. I've never seen or heard of it.
(2) Two jailers with the same name borders on bastard game. Read the flavor in the OP. the PRs are clearly individual characters. Why would there be flavor indicating the PRs are unique persons... In a game with multiple copies of one role?

This being a Blackadder game is significant in relation to that dynamic.

That's all I can say.

...um.

Someone help. I'm out if my element with flavor and this sounds big


Lord Percy Percy (Tim McInnerny) is the name given to a pair of related characters. (wiki)

Yup.
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Superbia
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Netherlands8889 Posts
February 16 2015 03:37 GMT
#1340
Rofl. Both are prob real.
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Superbia
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February 16 2015 03:38 GMT
#1342
What fucking mafia(/player) would ever claim medicrole halfway through d1 anyway? Jesus christ BH.
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Superbia
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February 16 2015 03:40 GMT
#1343
Nono. We're lynching LS. Look at his filter and then tell me he is actually doing anything this game with a straight face. Reads me mafia which diminished into thin air for no reason. Asks baseless questions and does nothing with them. Easiest mafia ever. Or third PR. :D:D
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Superbia
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February 16 2015 03:40 GMT
#1345
##vote: LightningStrike
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Superbia
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February 16 2015 03:41 GMT
#1347
Breshke does your alignment differ from mine?
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Superbia
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February 16 2015 03:42 GMT
#1348
People still voting on either BH or puppy in 5m are claiming mafia. Don't even give a shit about timezones, 5am here.
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Superbia
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February 16 2015 03:43 GMT
#1349
Btw, I love you sent, but that was a big no-no.
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Superbia
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February 16 2015 03:46 GMT
#1355
I'm still reading a little. I'll have my mafia team on paper before EoD.
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Superbia
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February 16 2015 03:47 GMT
#1357
Can anyone point me to the liancourt thing? I feel like I might've read over it.
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February 16 2015 03:48 GMT
#1362
On February 16 2015 12:47 Blazinghand wrote:
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On February 16 2015 12:46 Superbia wrote:
I'm still reading a little. I'll have my mafia team on paper before EoD.


OK. are you willing to consolidate to avoid lynching me or TP? There are AFK people who aren't gonna move their vote, and scum pretending to be AFK on my wagon.


I'm willing to lynch mafia. We can talk about consolidation in an hour.
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Superbia
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February 16 2015 03:50 GMT
#1368
On February 16 2015 12:48 LightningStrike wrote:
But I still got a slight meta scum read on you it just people were calling you town instead other than Breshke and Rayn who agreed with me.


I dislike Rayn and I kind of dislike Breshke atm. Trenderino?
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Superbia
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February 16 2015 03:57 GMT
#1380
On February 16 2015 12:55 Town Puppy wrote:
Also pre-noming BH for Best Play if he flips mafia


Honestly this would be on Sent. I'm sure the mafia QT is quite livid right now. I also disagree with the intervention, but will save that for post-game.
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Superbia
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February 16 2015 03:59 GMT
#1385
It was sent who saved town. Not me. I simply investigated his out-of-nowhere post. I'm town for being town and providing you with the list of mafia (coming soon, promise!). Not for googling "Lord Percy Percy".

Oh, who am I kidding. I'm a fucking hero.
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Superbia
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February 16 2015 04:11 GMT
#1399
Mafia:

-LS
-Kelsier
-rayn
-lian (why the fuck not)

Lean mafia:
- FF
- HtS
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Superbia
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February 16 2015 04:11 GMT
#1401
Like the list is kind of YOLO. Haven't really had any time for analysis.
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Superbia
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February 16 2015 04:13 GMT
#1405
On February 16 2015 13:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
FITE ME SUPERBIA WHAT YOU GOT


Lmfao. My first instinct said you were mafai. I kind of flipped on you? But my instinct reads have usually been correct. I'll save you for final 3, though I doubt I'll live to see the day. :D
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Superbia
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February 16 2015 04:15 GMT
#1409
Can everyone read LS' filter and tell me how it looks if you consider a mafia knowing both BH/puppy as being town playing on the situation?
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Superbia
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February 16 2015 04:15 GMT
#1410
On February 16 2015 13:15 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On February 16 2015 13:13 Superbia wrote:
On February 16 2015 13:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
FITE ME SUPERBIA WHAT YOU GOT


Lmfao. My first instinct said you were mafai. I kind of flipped on you? But my instinct reads have usually been correct. I'll save you for final 3, though I doubt I'll live to see the day. :D

Save me for final three with nightkills maybe what're your townreads mr 7scum list


Sort of the rest. Minus Robik. Fuck Robik.
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Superbia
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February 16 2015 04:16 GMT
#1413
Like he's around right now and not doing anything.
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Superbia
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February 16 2015 04:16 GMT
#1414
Actually he changed his vote right away. I'm dumb as shit. Add Robik to town.
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Superbia
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February 16 2015 04:17 GMT
#1415
Sorry Robik. I half-ass apologize.
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February 16 2015 04:18 GMT
#1416
On February 16 2015 13:15 Superbia wrote:
Can everyone read LS' filter and tell me how it looks if you consider a mafia knowing both BH/puppy as being town playing on the situation?

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Superbia
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February 16 2015 04:18 GMT
#1419
At this point I'd be okay with lynching lian. But he wasn't on my original mafia list. So kind of meh.
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Superbia
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February 16 2015 04:20 GMT
#1423
On February 16 2015 13:12 Town Puppy wrote:
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On February 16 2015 13:06 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 16 2015 13:01 Town Puppy wrote:
On February 16 2015 12:57 Blazinghand wrote:
TP/Eden, you're talking about this series of posts?

On February 16 2015 07:50 rsoultin wrote:
On February 16 2015 07:29 Alakaslam wrote:
What I see is BH could be anything; he is not dizzy now, he is the CHUPAZITRON himself and has bombed us with deep wifom

Deeeeeeeeeeeep bunkerbusting wifom

I would say losing an experienced JK in BH is worse than having scum BH one more day.


I agree with this. Also, way too many people just going oh, okay, when TP/Eden's play has been questionable all game, lol.

##unvote
##vote: TownPuppy

On February 16 2015 10:58 rsoultin wrote:
On February 16 2015 10:51 Town Puppy wrote:
My play is fine as town. If y'all weren't idiots we would be a lock to lynch scum today.

And I don't throw games as mafia. You saw me give up when I was caught. This isn't the same at all. After how detail-oriented you were about the hts miller thing I know you know this is different than Linux.


I can definitely see a difference, just as I can see a difference between your play this game and your town play from Horn. (Granted, I think you're trying to be less spammy, but it's like night and day.) What I don't understand is why you CCd immediately if you're actually the JK. If you know that you know that you know that BH is lying because you're the JK, then why not reserve that so that you can still use your abilities later? It's not a good play as town and I'm struggling to understand why you would do it now ><

Like, if it were me, I'd target him as JK and see if that effected the night kills, lol.
On February 16 2015 11:08 rsoultin wrote:
Nah, lian's right, if mafia's going to CC (or claim in the first place) it's probably the goon doing it. Bugger -_- I still think it's the wrong play by TP, but I can see him thinking it's right.

##unvote
##vote: Blazinghand



Yeah that's pretty much it, specifically the last two.


This to me looks suspicious in a vaguely similar way that liancourt's would. Again, scum would KNOW we're both JKs, right? So scum would want to seem hesitant and like, "oh, I'm voting BH but I could easily see that it's really TP" as a setup to vote you tomorrow. However, I consider that to be less of a scumtell than liancourt's maneuvering, which is "I think neither of thes epeople make sense as scum but I'll vote one of them anyways" which sets him up to look REALLY good after the double JK flip. like, REALLY good if he hadn't been caught.

I buy, however, rsoultin's confusion about your CC of me, just because s/he may not understand the POV of a blue. Worth looking into and pressuring, but I think the liancourt case is stronger.

I mean, flip side here, scum wouldn't know we're both JKs. They wouldn't know WHAT the fuck to do. NO ONE should know wtf to do. Given that, we have two different reactions:

(1) One person ostensibly tried to see both sides of the argument and ended up siding with both players at some point before settling in on me.
(2) The other person defaulted to the previous suspicion that person had on one of the two players and then abruptly switched to the other player after it became clear the initially-suspected player probably wasn't being lynched.

I think it's more likely that the mafia is (2) here. You don't actually get town credit from being right about both people being JK if you let them both get lynched. In fact, nothing about this situation gets you town credit unless you're the guy to figure out that both people are JK. (SHOUTS TO SUPERFRIEND, ALSO GET DUNKED I KNEW YOU WERE TOWN) What you do end up getting is a huge pile of shit during the day after the first flip, because you waffled on both and ended up on the guy who flipped JK. It's far better for mafia to just ride the wave toward whichever JK is getting lynched, then when they flip town riding the other one - and especially if, as in (2)'s case, the other one who ends up being "confirmed scum" is conveniently the one you already suspected.

No, rso is far more likely to be mafia out of the two in my view. As previously noted I will gladly vote either to save you, but our wagon should be rso.


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I thought you were mafia before the claim though ;p
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#1424
On February 16 2015 13:18 Breshke wrote:
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On February 16 2015 12:50 Superbia wrote:
On February 16 2015 12:48 LightningStrike wrote:
But I still got a slight meta scum read on you it just people were calling you town instead other than Breshke and Rayn who agreed with me.


I dislike Rayn and I kind of dislike Breshke atm. Trenderino?


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On February 16 2015 13:11 Superbia wrote:
Mafia:

-LS
-Kelsier
-rayn
-lian (why the fuck not)

Lean mafia:
- FF
- HtS


Why did i not make your list?


You flipped your read on me. I'm weak to that sort of shit. Also I would kind of look like a garbage player if my mafia circle was too big. You're not really that town though.
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February 16 2015 04:23 GMT
#1431
On February 16 2015 13:21 Breshke wrote:
Also i don't see the thing about LS playing on the situation is there any specific posts you were referring to? I'm historically bad at reading this guy


Felt that way. May be biased since I was kind of reading him mafia before then.
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February 16 2015 04:23 GMT
#1434
##Unvote
##Vote: Liancourt
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February 16 2015 04:24 GMT
#1435
I'm having fun boys, if we hit mafia I'll go to bed extra happy.
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February 16 2015 04:26 GMT
#1438
On February 16 2015 13:25 Fecalfeast wrote:
super why'd you have to roll mafia?


Because I ... Damn, almost got me, sson. ;p
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February 16 2015 04:26 GMT
#1441
Can someone link me to rso's scum game?
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February 16 2015 04:32 GMT
#1454
30s meta-god-read. RSO is town.
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February 16 2015 04:33 GMT
#1455
Filters feel different, etc.
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February 16 2015 04:34 GMT
#1460
On February 16 2015 13:34 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 16 2015 13:30 Town Puppy wrote:
And rso I pegged you as mafia about 20 minutes after I died. I said it in the obs qt of that game and I guessed it to JAT when I PM'd him about it. I got blinded by the marv tunnel in-game but I think I would have come around on you in that game if I weren't shot


Possibly. And knowing how you tunnel the shit out of people lol -shrugs- even though I don't understand how you could think this game looks like my scum game right after Horn of Africa, it's fine. If y'all want to switch to me, that's cool.

I'm not a role, so assuming you both are JK, it won't hurt town. I'll vote me if that means saving BH and TP.


I hate this post though.
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February 16 2015 04:37 GMT
#1464
On February 16 2015 13:36 IAmRobik wrote:
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On February 16 2015 13:15 Superbia wrote:
On February 16 2015 13:15 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 16 2015 13:13 Superbia wrote:
On February 16 2015 13:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
FITE ME SUPERBIA WHAT YOU GOT


Lmfao. My first instinct said you were mafai. I kind of flipped on you? But my instinct reads have usually been correct. I'll save you for final 3, though I doubt I'll live to see the day. :D

Save me for final three with nightkills maybe what're your townreads mr 7scum list


Sort of the rest. Minus Robik. Fuck Robik.

no


Yeah, yeah. Read on. I already retracted it and on top of that, gave a half-assed apology.
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February 16 2015 04:40 GMT
#1471
Lian walk me through your mafia world. Who's mafia besides BH?
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February 16 2015 04:40 GMT
#1474
BH is off the table. Who do you want to lynch, lian?
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February 16 2015 04:41 GMT
#1475
Willing on LS. Welcoming FF to my town circle.
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February 16 2015 04:42 GMT
#1477
On February 16 2015 13:41 rsoultin wrote:
I don't really like an LS lynch ^^;

I can't say for sure that he's town; but he just seems genuine to me. The happy posts and silly questions are what I've come to associate with him as town.


Hate levels increasing. So much martyrdom.
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February 16 2015 04:43 GMT
#1480
On February 16 2015 13:43 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 16 2015 13:42 Superbia wrote:
On February 16 2015 13:41 rsoultin wrote:
I don't really like an LS lynch ^^;

I can't say for sure that he's town; but he just seems genuine to me. The happy posts and silly questions are what I've come to associate with him as town.


Hate levels increasing. So much martyrdom.


<3 you too xP


What's your goal here? Why would you be okay with getting lynched if you were town?
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February 16 2015 04:44 GMT
#1483
On February 16 2015 13:43 liancourt wrote:
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On February 16 2015 13:39 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 16 2015 13:37 Town Puppy wrote:
SWITCH that lian post was townie imo


currently we don't have enough @@willings to do that. note that I'm not @@willing to lynch rsou

liancourt's post is very "emotional" but doesn't really have any good arguments or cases on people like LS or Rsou. He's just doing damage control and trying to get me lynched because I'm the next-biggest wagon, not accepting the truth


Dude. your post on me looked like a desperate scum trying grab at anything and your reasoning was just bad. that's why I immediately unvoted and voted you because you so bad as hell. Get town cred for what? I was asking on the possiblilities of there being 2 JKs and you dismissed it so I voted TP and even defended you as devils advocate.

HOw in the world would i get towh ncred for getting the 2 wagons right???? I get nothing it's null it's a BS reason to call someone scum and you are jsut inflating it with thread presense


STOP.

WHAT ARE YOU READS BESIDES BH.
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February 16 2015 04:44 GMT
#1484
Like if you continuing this bullshit and flip town I'm going to be pissed, lian. Literally wasting time.
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February 16 2015 04:46 GMT
#1490
On February 16 2015 13:45 liancourt wrote:
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On February 16 2015 13:44 Superbia wrote:
On February 16 2015 13:43 liancourt wrote:
On February 16 2015 13:39 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 16 2015 13:37 Town Puppy wrote:
SWITCH that lian post was townie imo


currently we don't have enough @@willings to do that. note that I'm not @@willing to lynch rsou

liancourt's post is very "emotional" but doesn't really have any good arguments or cases on people like LS or Rsou. He's just doing damage control and trying to get me lynched because I'm the next-biggest wagon, not accepting the truth


Dude. your post on me looked like a desperate scum trying grab at anything and your reasoning was just bad. that's why I immediately unvoted and voted you because you so bad as hell. Get town cred for what? I was asking on the possiblilities of there being 2 JKs and you dismissed it so I voted TP and even defended you as devils advocate.

HOw in the world would i get towh ncred for getting the 2 wagons right???? I get nothing it's null it's a BS reason to call someone scum and you are jsut inflating it with thread presense


STOP.

WHAT ARE YOU READS BESIDES BH.


FF is scum but I'm not gonna get enough votes so I'm pusshing BH who is just obvious scum to me.


FF is willing to flip to both other wagons. Are these wagons town as well?
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February 16 2015 04:50 GMT
#1499
CC wouldn't be bad here.
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February 16 2015 04:52 GMT
#1512
Rowan Atkinson is the actor who plays lord Blackadder. Am the only who who knows how the fucking google around here?
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February 16 2015 04:52 GMT
#1515
how to*
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February 16 2015 04:53 GMT
#1520
I'm not sure I believe this claim. I'd be willing to switch to RSO, maybe. =/ CC would be useful.
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February 16 2015 04:56 GMT
#1530
So if lian is scum, RSO is town. Agreed?
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February 16 2015 04:57 GMT
#1538
On February 16 2015 13:56 Town Puppy wrote:
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On February 16 2015 13:56 Superbia wrote:
So if lian is scum, RSO is town. Agreed?

fuck no

why would that be so


RSO is switch target. If both scum, he's proposing we switch to RSO. Hit scum. How does he explain surviving the night, ever?
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February 16 2015 04:58 GMT
#1543
On February 16 2015 13:57 Fecalfeast wrote:
if one of the jks are scum and there is no second jk I'm gonna be really mad at the mods

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February 16 2015 04:58 GMT
#1546
Mafia lurking hard, or what?
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February 16 2015 04:59 GMT
#1549
This doesn't feel like cop. Cop would be more upset. IDK.
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February 16 2015 04:59 GMT
#1558
LYNCH LIAN.
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February 16 2015 05:00 GMT
#1559
On February 16 2015 13:59 liancourt wrote:
i'm miller so there

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February 16 2015 05:05 GMT
#1571
Literally done.
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February 16 2015 05:06 GMT
#1574
How many miller claims today? I recall HtS.
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February 16 2015 05:08 GMT
#1580
Mafia:
-LS
-Kelsier
-rayn

Lean mafia:
-HtS
-RSO
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February 16 2015 05:09 GMT
#1581
Never letting other people influence my list again.
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February 16 2015 05:10 GMT
#1583
Whatever. Save it for post-game. No CC, so it's okay-ish.
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February 16 2015 05:11 GMT
#1586
Actually it's dumb as fuck. But whatever. It didn't do much harm.
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February 16 2015 05:15 GMT
#1587
Also breshke looks pretty fucking bad now. Look at his filter and timestamps.

Perspective of mafia:
Town claiming PR (cop) and getting lynched.

Also RSO looks exceptionally bad. Literally does nothing when cop outs. LITERALLY NOTHING.

Do we have town KP?
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February 16 2015 05:16 GMT
#1588
"I'm okay with dying guys (bc I'm def not mafia, teehee)." -> Cop claims -> -silence-
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February 16 2015 05:34 GMT
#1595
On February 16 2015 14:22 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 16 2015 14:16 Superbia wrote:
"I'm okay with dying guys (bc I'm def not mafia, teehee)." -> Cop claims -> -silence-


-snorts- That would be significant if there was any reason to believe lian's claim.


Where'd you go after asking who Rowan Atkinson is?
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February 16 2015 05:35 GMT
#1596
On February 16 2015 14:33 Alakaslam wrote:
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On February 16 2015 08:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
If anyone actually thinks BH is town, read this game http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/427569-golden-sun-the-broken-seal-mini-mafia

He is old partner and does literally the same exact thing he's done here. Fakes a role and makes up some absurd crumb and he almost gets away with it too here. I remember because we were lol'ing hard in scum QT.

Oh yeah

##Unvote

##Vote: Blazinghand


What?
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February 16 2015 05:41 GMT
#1601
BH why in the world did you claim PR halfway through d1?
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February 16 2015 05:42 GMT
#1602
Whatever. The answer will probably not be alignment indicative. If the mod brain-fucked me on this then so be it.
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February 16 2015 05:43 GMT
#1603
On February 16 2015 14:37 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 16 2015 14:34 Superbia wrote:
On February 16 2015 14:22 rsoultin wrote:
On February 16 2015 14:16 Superbia wrote:
"I'm okay with dying guys (bc I'm def not mafia, teehee)." -> Cop claims -> -silence-


-snorts- That would be significant if there was any reason to believe lian's claim.


Where'd you go after asking who Rowan Atkinson is?


Went to look up what it was? Then just saw the shitfest going on. 2JKs+cop really didn't make sense, so I'm not sure why this is strange to y'all. You think I'm gonna take a dive for someone I don't think is a town PR? lol that's amusing xP


I don't feel like you're interested in anyone's alignment this game.
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February 16 2015 05:45 GMT
#1605
I'm off for now.
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February 16 2015 05:45 GMT
#1606
On February 16 2015 14:44 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 16 2015 14:43 Superbia wrote:
On February 16 2015 14:37 rsoultin wrote:
On February 16 2015 14:34 Superbia wrote:
On February 16 2015 14:22 rsoultin wrote:
On February 16 2015 14:16 Superbia wrote:
"I'm okay with dying guys (bc I'm def not mafia, teehee)." -> Cop claims -> -silence-


-snorts- That would be significant if there was any reason to believe lian's claim.


Where'd you go after asking who Rowan Atkinson is?


Went to look up what it was? Then just saw the shitfest going on. 2JKs+cop really didn't make sense, so I'm not sure why this is strange to y'all. You think I'm gonna take a dive for someone I don't think is a town PR? lol that's amusing xP


I don't feel like you're interested in anyone's alignment this game.


And the point of this post is...?


I think you're mafia. Probably.
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February 16 2015 05:45 GMT
#1607
I'll revisit thoughts tomorrow. Bye.
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February 16 2015 12:47 GMT
#1627
On February 16 2015 21:41 IAmRobik wrote:
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On February 16 2015 14:09 Superbia wrote:
Never letting other people influence my list again.


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On February 16 2015 14:16 Superbia wrote:
"I'm okay with dying guys (bc I'm def not mafia, teehee)." -> Cop claims -> -silence-


These two posts are within a span of 7 minutes. They're quite contrasting. One makes it seem like you TR'd lian and didn't want him lynched. The other is a mockery of his play with the underlying assumption that he's scum.


Second was a mockery of RSO's play, not Lian's.
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February 17 2015 09:54 GMT
#2108
I got hit.
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February 17 2015 09:55 GMT
#2109
But I'm still alive. Mysteries.
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February 17 2015 10:39 GMT
#2111
Eh, maybe I shouldn't have claimed, all things considering. But fuck it. Too late now.

I am the veterinarian!

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February 17 2015 18:57 GMT
#2193
SK shot on JK kind of makes sense, and it's possible that there is a world in which SK and mafia KP stacked on the JK, because mafia would put KP on a JK for sure. But I doubt SK would put KP on me.

So Vig should claim if he shot Kelsier, or we can assume with certainty that SK put KP on Kelsier (ez JK dodge).
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February 17 2015 20:37 GMT
#2205
I was like, Damdred is in this game? What the fuck? Then I noticed Breshke replaced out.
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February 17 2015 20:38 GMT
#2207
Also I'm the supreme judge because I'm the mostest confirmest town.
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February 17 2015 20:38 GMT
#2208
On February 18 2015 05:38 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On February 18 2015 05:37 Superbia wrote:
I was like, Damdred is in this game? What the fuck? Then I noticed Breshke replaced out.

Are you SK? I feel like you're SK for some reason


Well I did eat a bullet.
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February 17 2015 20:39 GMT
#2210
Guess we'll know after I flip tonight. :D
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February 17 2015 20:42 GMT
#2211
FF are you a PR? I had a PR or mafia read on you for most of the game.
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February 17 2015 20:43 GMT
#2216
On February 18 2015 05:42 Fecalfeast wrote:
It just seems weird that your play as vet would be to draw a bullet from town rather than scum is all


What? Town shot me?
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February 17 2015 20:44 GMT
#2218
Might want to elaborate on that.
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#2220
On February 18 2015 05:44 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On February 18 2015 05:42 Superbia wrote:
FF are you a PR? I had a PR or mafia read on you for most of the game.

and blue hunting tho?


Blue is the mafia son. But yeah, I had a PR or mafia read on you N1. Which is why I did not want to elaborate on it. Now that it's clear you're not the cop I don't really care that much tbh.
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February 17 2015 20:46 GMT
#2222
On February 18 2015 05:44 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On February 18 2015 05:43 Superbia wrote:
On February 18 2015 05:42 Fecalfeast wrote:
It just seems weird that your play as vet would be to draw a bullet from town rather than scum is all


What? Town shot me?

Why would mafia shoot you? I'm confused I thought it was established that most likely mafia shot TP and sk shot kelly


Mafia has second KP through their special 3 single-use power's role. How are you so certain that kelsier was shot by SK and not by a vigi?
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February 17 2015 20:47 GMT
#2224
On February 18 2015 05:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
Explain why you were a good mafia shot, please.

Leave out the part where you used google.


I used google. In addition, I was townie as fuck. 95% of the people were reading me town. Also I used google. Twice.
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February 17 2015 20:48 GMT
#2226
I don't even understand why I'm elaborating why I'm a good mafia shot.
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February 17 2015 20:48 GMT
#2227
On February 18 2015 05:48 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On February 18 2015 05:46 Superbia wrote:
On February 18 2015 05:44 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 18 2015 05:43 Superbia wrote:
On February 18 2015 05:42 Fecalfeast wrote:
It just seems weird that your play as vet would be to draw a bullet from town rather than scum is all


What? Town shot me?

Why would mafia shoot you? I'm confused I thought it was established that most likely mafia shot TP and sk shot kelly


Mafia has second KP through their special 3 single-use power's role. How are you so certain that kelsier was shot by SK and not by a vigi?

I'm not, I just don't see what value you had to be shot for is all


Everyone was reading me town.
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February 17 2015 20:49 GMT
#2230
Like get mad, I absorbed KP. I did my PR job.
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February 17 2015 20:49 GMT
#2231
>:|
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#2233
Also I'm always the fucking vet. I love the role, but wtf.
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February 17 2015 20:51 GMT
#2235
Has LS been scum before in a game? If so, someone mind linking me?
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February 17 2015 20:51 GMT
#2236
Like these meta-town-reads on him are throwing me off.
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February 17 2015 20:55 GMT
#2239
Yeah, he's town. Unless he mixed up his mafia play big time.
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#2240
Though it's possible. That game was quite a while ago.
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February 17 2015 20:57 GMT
#2242
Also thanks, Robik. Though you might be mafia.
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#2243
Also the fact that I was targeted last night might mean that my reads are godlike (and they probably are).
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February 17 2015 20:58 GMT
#2244
Except for the Kelsier read, that was less godlike.
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#2245
And the LS one, probably.
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February 17 2015 20:59 GMT
#2246
So in retrospect those reads might've been quite garbage.
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February 17 2015 21:00 GMT
#2247
Slam! What are your thoughts on the game so far?
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February 17 2015 21:04 GMT
#2249
FF are you still here?
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February 17 2015 21:04 GMT
#2250
FF can you compare the two filters of this game and his scum game and then tell me with a straight face he's scum?
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#2252
On February 18 2015 06:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On February 18 2015 06:04 Superbia wrote:
FF can you compare the two filters of this game and his scum game and then tell me with a straight face he's scum?

I dislike meta reads sorry. Unless he has some obvious tell then I'd rather you just pointed it out to me


His mafia filter is 4 pages long for 3 days, including a defense as he was getting lynched. His filter is 8 pages here coming into d2. Those are numbers. Fuck em.

His mafia filter reads very forced and tedious, his filter here not so much. Just fucking look at the post style jesus fuck. :D
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#2254
FF who do you want to kill besides LS?
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#2255
On February 18 2015 06:11 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2015 23:36 Half the Sky wrote:
On February 17 2015 14:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay my last post before going to bed: The SK prob was scum reading KSC and thought he was Mafia so he killed him hoping to kill Mafia but instead KSC was town. Going to bed for reals now.


WIFOM. Most people here are lumping the SK and scum together in one batch. What you said is possible, but unlikely as there are way more town than scum.

Under the assumption that scum took out Eden, my theory FWIW, BH said before that SK is anti-swing, and Kelsier was a mislynch opportunity for scum, given he was being scumread. He kills a townie AND hurts scum at the same time by cutting short an ML candidate.

Kelsier could also have been targetted because he was on the right track as well. Some of his reads were matching my own, on the ones that weren't, could potentially be worth further investigation.

Any of the above are possible plus other things I might not have considered.


it's posts like this. you call someone wifoming, then you proceed to wifom, then justify your reads with wifom of a dead person, then display TMI but qualify it with "under the assumption".


What's TMI in her post?
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#2259
On February 18 2015 06:13 ritoky wrote:
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On February 18 2015 06:12 Superbia wrote:
On February 18 2015 06:11 ritoky wrote:
On February 17 2015 23:36 Half the Sky wrote:
On February 17 2015 14:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay my last post before going to bed: The SK prob was scum reading KSC and thought he was Mafia so he killed him hoping to kill Mafia but instead KSC was town. Going to bed for reals now.


WIFOM. Most people here are lumping the SK and scum together in one batch. What you said is possible, but unlikely as there are way more town than scum.

Under the assumption that scum took out Eden, my theory FWIW, BH said before that SK is anti-swing, and Kelsier was a mislynch opportunity for scum, given he was being scumread. He kills a townie AND hurts scum at the same time by cutting short an ML candidate.

Kelsier could also have been targetted because he was on the right track as well. Some of his reads were matching my own, on the ones that weren't, could potentially be worth further investigation.

Any of the above are possible plus other things I might not have considered.


it's posts like this. you call someone wifoming, then you proceed to wifom, then justify your reads with wifom of a dead person, then display TMI but qualify it with "under the assumption".


What's TMI in her post?


to me it looks like she know who killed who.


There were multiple theories coming from multiple people, including myself. Why are you pinging HtS?
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#2267
FF what are your thoughts on:
- Ritoky
- RSO
- Slam
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#2268
Just color code them, I don't need a post with more than 4 lines of text.
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#2269
If this takes more than 5 minutes I'm lynching you. :D
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#2271
Just in time :D
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#2272
Looking forward to that post.
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#2274
On February 18 2015 06:16 ritoky wrote:
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On February 18 2015 06:14 Superbia wrote:
On February 18 2015 06:13 ritoky wrote:
On February 18 2015 06:12 Superbia wrote:
On February 18 2015 06:11 ritoky wrote:
On February 17 2015 23:36 Half the Sky wrote:
On February 17 2015 14:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay my last post before going to bed: The SK prob was scum reading KSC and thought he was Mafia so he killed him hoping to kill Mafia but instead KSC was town. Going to bed for reals now.


WIFOM. Most people here are lumping the SK and scum together in one batch. What you said is possible, but unlikely as there are way more town than scum.

Under the assumption that scum took out Eden, my theory FWIW, BH said before that SK is anti-swing, and Kelsier was a mislynch opportunity for scum, given he was being scumread. He kills a townie AND hurts scum at the same time by cutting short an ML candidate.

Kelsier could also have been targetted because he was on the right track as well. Some of his reads were matching my own, on the ones that weren't, could potentially be worth further investigation.

Any of the above are possible plus other things I might not have considered.


it's posts like this. you call someone wifoming, then you proceed to wifom, then justify your reads with wifom of a dead person, then display TMI but qualify it with "under the assumption".


What's the point, though?
What's TMI in her post?


to me it looks like she know who killed who.


There were multiple theories coming from multiple people, including myself. Why are you pinging HtS?


here's me doing it to LS

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On February 17 2015 16:13 ritoky wrote:
On February 17 2015 14:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay my last post before going to bed: The SK prob was scum reading KSC and thought he was Mafia so he killed him hoping to kill Mafia but instead KSC was town. Going to bed for reals now.


[image loading]


I do it when I notice it.

I noticed that one, because it had a lot of certainty in it, i.e. grounded in real knowledge not speculation.

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#2275
On February 18 2015 06:29 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2015 06:16 ritoky wrote:
On February 18 2015 06:14 Superbia wrote:
On February 18 2015 06:13 ritoky wrote:
On February 18 2015 06:12 Superbia wrote:
On February 18 2015 06:11 ritoky wrote:
On February 17 2015 23:36 Half the Sky wrote:
On February 17 2015 14:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay my last post before going to bed: The SK prob was scum reading KSC and thought he was Mafia so he killed him hoping to kill Mafia but instead KSC was town. Going to bed for reals now.


WIFOM. Most people here are lumping the SK and scum together in one batch. What you said is possible, but unlikely as there are way more town than scum.

Under the assumption that scum took out Eden, my theory FWIW, BH said before that SK is anti-swing, and Kelsier was a mislynch opportunity for scum, given he was being scumread. He kills a townie AND hurts scum at the same time by cutting short an ML candidate.

Kelsier could also have been targetted because he was on the right track as well. Some of his reads were matching my own, on the ones that weren't, could potentially be worth further investigation.

Any of the above are possible plus other things I might not have considered.


it's posts like this. you call someone wifoming, then you proceed to wifom, then justify your reads with wifom of a dead person, then display TMI but qualify it with "under the assumption".



What's TMI in her post?


to me it looks like she know who killed who.


There were multiple theories coming from multiple people, including myself. Why are you pinging HtS?


here's me doing it to LS

On February 17 2015 16:13 ritoky wrote:
On February 17 2015 14:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay my last post before going to bed: The SK prob was scum reading KSC and thought he was Mafia so he killed him hoping to kill Mafia but instead KSC was town. Going to bed for reals now.


[image loading]


I do it when I notice it.

I noticed that one, because it had a lot of certainty in it, i.e. grounded in real knowledge not speculation.



What's the point, though?

EBWOP
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#2276
Quoting myself like an asshole.
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February 18 2015 21:25 GMT
#2662
He attempted to JK me but was RBed.
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February 18 2015 21:25 GMT
#2663
Also hi.
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February 18 2015 21:26 GMT
#2666
HtS what you think of FF's alignment now?
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#2674
On February 19 2015 06:26 Blazinghand wrote:
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On February 19 2015 06:25 Palmar wrote:
probably me, I was rbd.


I considered you. Also, it's interesting you got RBed. Would mafia have 2x RBer then?


Probably puppy. Someone mentioned puppy should JK palmar during n1 iirc. Might've been Palmar himself.
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#2677
On February 19 2015 06:27 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On February 19 2015 06:26 Superbia wrote:
HtS what you think of FF's alignment now?

She just said I'm still mafia bro.

Do you think I'm mafia? *puppydog eyes*


Eh. Not sure. I've been pretty busy and I'm pretty exhausted every time I can play.
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#2680
I wasn't RB'd, I was shot.
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#2696
On February 19 2015 06:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
or rather, if bh and eden are town, why would mafia roleblock BH and shoot eden?
WHY?


Possibility of one JK yolo-saving the other.
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February 18 2015 22:38 GMT
#2740
FF you here?
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February 18 2015 22:57 GMT
#2744
FF what you think about rayn?
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February 18 2015 23:38 GMT
#2767
Rayn your day makes no sense if you're actually the cop.
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February 19 2015 00:10 GMT
#2797
##Vote: rayn
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February 19 2015 00:11 GMT
#2798
I refuse to live in a world where I didn't get at least 1 mafia on my list.
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February 19 2015 00:12 GMT
#2799
Also that cop claim was garbage.
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February 19 2015 00:21 GMT
#2804
On February 19 2015 09:14 Palmar wrote:
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On February 19 2015 09:12 Superbia wrote:
Also that cop claim was garbage.

I don't think it was a cop claim


A mafia claim?
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#2806
On February 19 2015 09:24 Palmar wrote:
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On February 19 2015 09:21 Superbia wrote:
On February 19 2015 09:14 Palmar wrote:
On February 19 2015 09:12 Superbia wrote:
Also that cop claim was garbage.

I don't think it was a cop claim


A mafia claim?

I'm pretty sure that was rayn's version of claiming mafia and saying fuck it. Maybe hoping that the cop (if we have one) is a moron and ccs to give his team a free shot.


Yeah that's basically where I'm at. Or he's a town doing dumb shit. But I doubt it. I had to play mafia vs his town once and it was quite scary. His presence has been nowhere this game.
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February 19 2015 01:17 GMT
#2833
10/10. Paused house of cards to read.
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February 19 2015 02:24 GMT
#2845
I'm off to bed. Ded game etc. Cruise control on rayn.
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#3034
On February 19 2015 14:40 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 17 2015 09:38 Blazinghand wrote:
To be clear: Superbia being scum would NOT be breakgaming nor woudl it make the game invalid. In fact, if I were scum and I knew how blackadder worked, and I knew that both of the JK claims were real JKs, and the mod CAME IN and said that the fluff was relevant, well, I'd DEFINLTEY do what superbia did. The only reason I'm townreading Superbia is that I think most players aren't as wiley as me and woudl only do this as town.

Superbia is not modconfirmed. He just reacted to the mod dropping a hint in a way that's very townie unless he's super devious.;


TLDR:
scum could do this
but only scum!BH is clever enough
so superbia is town


This is, quite frankly, insulting.
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February 19 2015 13:24 GMT
#3037
On February 19 2015 22:19 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 19 2015 22:17 Superbia wrote:
On February 19 2015 14:40 rsoultin wrote:
On February 17 2015 09:38 Blazinghand wrote:
To be clear: Superbia being scum would NOT be breakgaming nor woudl it make the game invalid. In fact, if I were scum and I knew how blackadder worked, and I knew that both of the JK claims were real JKs, and the mod CAME IN and said that the fluff was relevant, well, I'd DEFINLTEY do what superbia did. The only reason I'm townreading Superbia is that I think most players aren't as wiley as me and woudl only do this as town.

Superbia is not modconfirmed. He just reacted to the mod dropping a hint in a way that's very townie unless he's super devious.;


TLDR:
scum could do this
but only scum!BH is clever enough
so superbia is town


This is, quite frankly, insulting.


This is, quite frankly, what BH said if you actually read what he posted xP


It's still insulting. >:|
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#3049
On February 19 2015 22:29 rsoultin wrote:
Lol, also, I really want to lynch BH. Like my brain says nah, don't be dumb, and it's probably just the smug ass attitude while he trolls around and barely contributes, but I really want to lynch him.

Someone explain why again it would break the game if the mods suggested there could be two JKs, that BH may actually not be one of them?

Also, kinda like Superbia's filter, though I remember you being a ton more helpful the last game I played with you, Super.


Yeah. I haven't been as invested in this game as I wanted to. The fact that all my d1 reads were wrong are kind of of-putting. I'll see if I can leave a legacy tonight (though there's a decent chance I won't die) that accurately encompasses the entire scum-team + SK. All this talk about good players makes me hungry for a bit of spotlight. :D
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#3051
On February 19 2015 22:53 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 19 2015 22:39 Palmar wrote:
On February 19 2015 22:29 rsoultin wrote:
Lol, also, I really want to lynch BH. Like my brain says nah, don't be dumb, and it's probably just the smug ass attitude while he trolls around and barely contributes, but I really want to lynch him.

Someone explain why again it would break the game if the mods suggested there could be two JKs, that BH may actually not be one of them?

Also, kinda like Superbia's filter, though I remember you being a ton more helpful the last game I played with you, Super.

We're not lynching BH.

If BH is scum, the game is invalid because the host interfered with the meta thing. So if he is mafia and the host has any integrity, BH would be modkilled and the host would then commit sudoku.


It's supoku, Palmar xP

Eh, I don't know, is it really acceptable for the mod to confirm anyone in these games? That seems like poor modding and I had a higher opinion of Sent than that.


Either way it's completely fucked up. But BH definitely needs to be town here. The only reason Sent would intervene there is if BH was town JK. The game was about to be ruined because no one (except scum, probably) knew about the double JK thing. As such, town was headed towards lynching 2 PRs in a row. It would've been massively fucked up and people would be mad at Sent. Honestly I think the game needed a reset after the reveal, but again, that's for postgame.
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#3097
On February 19 2015 23:16 Half the Sky wrote:
Superbia, I think I might know who the SK is. But we need that SK for the anti-swing and unless I failed in my alignment tally early this morning I don't want to risk him getting shot.

Or if he gets shot, does that KP resolve simultaneously?


Reveal it at :59 or something, before EoN deadline. I think all KP resolves simultaneously.
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February 20 2015 03:14 GMT
#3240
Just had a EDH game of 3 1/2 hours. Jesus christ.
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#3242
On February 20 2015 12:18 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On February 20 2015 12:14 Superbia wrote:
Just had a EDH game of 3 1/2 hours. Jesus christ.

...........................................................

You play EDH, as in you don't call it commander, and I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT?


You do now. :D
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February 20 2015 03:21 GMT
#3243
You play too?
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#3247
On February 20 2015 12:22 Fecalfeast wrote:
Do you play for fun or do you hear
"Ok turn 1, I'll play a plains, sol ring, lightning greaves, mox opal, tap the mox opal for white and play serra ascendant, attach the greaves and swing for 30" in your nightmares like me?


Nah. Our playgroup is pretty chill and casual. Though we do all run sol ring. Usually the first 5 turns are spend playing lands. We also mostly play multiplayer.
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February 20 2015 03:27 GMT
#3249
3.5 hours for 3 player multiplayer is dumb as fuck though.
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February 20 2015 03:28 GMT
#3250
I was planning to make a huge and funny post, but I'm going to keep it short and sweet. I'm not sure what to think about the possible slip from LS caught by ritoky, it kind of messes up the circles in my head.
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February 20 2015 03:33 GMT
#3252
On February 20 2015 12:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
Make your post anyway. I'm still on the fence about you as the SK


Yeah, no shit. I'm still deciding on my circles atm. D/w, you're on the townie side.
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February 20 2015 03:38 GMT
#3253
Actually a LS/HtS team makes sense since I'm reading a shitload of other people town.

BH asked earlier what I thought about Palmar. He's active and mirroring some/most of my thoughts. That being said, I feel like he's somewhat different from the last I played with him in which we were both town (PYP). Can't really explain it well. He might be mafia playing very well (fear lyncherino).
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February 20 2015 03:46 GMT
#3255
The problem is that I think there's a mafia between HtS and RSO. I had mafia and town tells on either of them. I'm not sure which one it is.
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February 20 2015 03:56 GMT
#3258
Town:
- BH
- ritoky
- Robik
- FF
- VA (literally sheeping this read)

SK:
- Damdred

Which leaves:
- HtS
- rsoultin
- LS
- Palmar
- Slam
- prplhz

So HtS made a case earlier on FF which she then easily abandoned to sheep a case on Rayn. I don't believe a townie would put so much time/energy into a case on someone just to easily abandon it like she did. But on the other hand she has put a lot of time into the game. Mafia pile bc yolo.

RSO has seemed paranoid and active as well. I called her out for afking during the EoD1 crucial time, in which a VT claimed cop and got lynched. This was exceptionally scummy, but her play otherwise has been fine. Town pile because her thought process makes sense, I guess.

LS first seemed like mafia, but people defended him and called him town. His filter seems way different compared to his mafia filter, though it was a long time ago. The slip is idk. I prefer not to base my reads on those, since it can be interpreted in several ways (maybe being dumb since it's 5 am). Town after all I guess. Gotta stick to those god-meta-reads.

Palmar seems town but a bit different for some reason. It seems like he's leading and being loud, but the presence doesn't seem to be completely there for some reason. It may just be my disconnect with the game. Maybe town maybe good mafia.

Slam seems different from PYP game. No interactivity with town. Does his own thing. Slam is mafia.

prplhz is wat. Mafia.
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February 20 2015 04:06 GMT
#3259
So a few things for town:

Ritoky is town because he seems to be genuinely paying attention. Also he seemed town d1.

Robik seems angry and therefore. Honestly I came to EoN to call him scum but I read his filter and it seems townie. Especially compared to PYP, where he was scum. Might be underestimating his scum play. But I don't have a lot of time.

FF I read as PR/Mafia early on. Reread his filter and he seemed town. I kind of have a town soulread on FF which has not come to fruition this game. Gut says he might be mafia, head says he's town. Sticking to head on this one.

VA is called town by people who claim to read him. I read his d1 filter and seemed to agree with almost everything he said, which is why I read him town independently. I'm not sure why he's been very lurky.
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February 20 2015 04:11 GMT
#3262
For tomorrow:

Revisit the following:
- The BH/TP claim debacle. I have wanted to look more into this and see how people interact. Expect scum to be not very loud but willing to join the wagon on BH. They will likely have no new input on the wagon.

- The liancourt lynch. Liancourt claimed cop at the EoD, while he was VT. Look at the people who interacted with this lynch and how.

- The wagon switch from FF to rayn. The ease with which this happened and with which the wagons were formed makes it feel like it went from a town to a town wagon. Look at the people who were happy with sheeping the votes.
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February 20 2015 04:13 GMT
#3264
I honestly have to apologize to town, especially if I die tonight. I have wanted to put more time into this game but constraints and laziness have kept me from doing so. I feel like I could've guided both lynches (especially d2) more, possibly hitting scum. My performance has been severely lackluster and, with some reservation, will promise to lead this game to (town) victory shall I survive the night.
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#3265
On February 20 2015 13:12 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 20 2015 13:06 Superbia wrote:
So a few things for town:

Ritoky is town because he seems to be genuinely paying attention. Also he seemed town d1.

Robik seems angry and therefore. Honestly I came to EoN to call him scum but I read his filter and it seems townie. Especially compared to PYP, where he was scum. Might be underestimating his scum play. But I don't have a lot of time.

FF I read as PR/Mafia early on. Reread his filter and he seemed town. I kind of have a town soulread on FF which has not come to fruition this game. Gut says he might be mafia, head says he's town. Sticking to head on this one.

VA is called town by people who claim to read him. I read his d1 filter and seemed to agree with almost everything he said, which is why I read him town independently. I'm not sure why he's been very lurky.


Looks like probably our biggest disconnect is ritoky. He also seems to be your strongest townread. Why am I wrong on him?


He's not really my strongest town-read per say. I read him town d1 because he seemed different from when I was mafia with him. I feel like he's more salty when he's mafia, he hasn't been this game. The fact that he pinged out LS on the HtS thing makes it feel like he's paying attention to the game. His lack of presence on d2 is not alignment indicative to me.
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February 20 2015 04:16 GMT
#3266
I have also done 0 vote analysis, which is dumb.
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February 20 2015 04:17 GMT
#3269
On February 20 2015 13:17 Half the Sky wrote:
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On February 20 2015 13:12 rsoultin wrote:
Looks like probably our biggest disconnect is ritoky. He also seems to be your strongest townread. Why am I wrong on him?


Good morning. And Rasputin, it's not just you. Why do you think I'm tallying people's scumteams? We're in mylo and the BS I'm seeing from some people here (notably Ritoky and Blazinghand) tonight is borderline hilarious.

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On February 20 2015 00:45 Half the Sky wrote:
Updated
MYLO scumteams by player (number in parenthesis is the page number they called out that given scumteam)

Palmar (154)
FF, Ritoky, VA, prplhz

Rsoultin (153)
prplhz, Ritoky, BH, Super
5th: Slam/HTS/Robik/Damdred

VA (155)
LS, Ritoky, prplhz, Breshke (until rep)
Robik as SK maybe Damdred

HTS (155)
Ritoky, FF, Blazinghand, prphlz
5th: Robik or someone from my tinfoil category

Robik (151, 153)
LS, Blazinghand, Rasputin, TBD

LS (155)
Ritoky, VA, Robik, Alakaslam, prplhz


How many people are scumreading Ritoky again? Quite a few people.

There's a reason for that.


What's your reason?
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February 20 2015 04:19 GMT
#3271
Like the amount of people scum reading Ritoky has nothing to do with his alignment. A lot of people were scum-reading Rayn, a lot of people were scum-reading lian. You can't use that metric as an excuse to read someone scum.
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February 20 2015 04:21 GMT
#3272
In fact, HtS, who on that list-list are you scum-reading?
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February 20 2015 04:38 GMT
#3280
I'll re-read that tomorrow if I'm still alive, and would urge town to do the same if I die. My circles remain the same if I die. I'm awaiting the night flip and then I'll go to sleep (irony).
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February 20 2015 04:39 GMT
#3281
Also the fact that prplhz is at the end of many people's lists is somewhat intriguing.
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February 20 2015 04:40 GMT
#3283
On February 20 2015 13:27 Half the Sky wrote:
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On February 20 2015 13:21 Superbia wrote:
In fact, HtS, who on that list-list are you scum-reading?


"list-list" as in my list or Rasputin's?

We have Ritoky and prplhz in common as scumreads if you mean the latter.


I was asking for your list. Then I realized it was already on the list-list.
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February 20 2015 04:42 GMT
#3288
red = PR this game. FecalNoob.
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February 20 2015 04:42 GMT
#3289
On February 20 2015 13:41 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 20 2015 13:39 Superbia wrote:
Also the fact that prplhz is at the end of many people's lists is somewhat intriguing.


Elaborate?


I feel like there has been no pressure on him whatsoever this game. Easy pressure point for scum. Especially since low post-count would imply likely PR if he's town.
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February 20 2015 04:45 GMT
#3291
On February 20 2015 13:42 Superbia wrote:
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On February 20 2015 13:41 rsoultin wrote:
On February 20 2015 13:39 Superbia wrote:
Also the fact that prplhz is at the end of many people's lists is somewhat intriguing.


Elaborate?


I feel like there has been no pressure on him whatsoever this game. Easy pressure point for scum. Especially since low post-count would imply likely PR if he's town.


Like people mention ritoky (as being mafia) for a lack of presence. What about prplhz then?
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February 20 2015 04:47 GMT
#3292
SK be our vigi.
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February 20 2015 05:03 GMT
#3305
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February 20 2015 05:20 GMT
#3311
Not too bad. :D
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February 20 2015 05:20 GMT
#3312
Guess good old damdred wasn't the SK.
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February 20 2015 05:23 GMT
#3316
Off to bed!
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February 20 2015 21:23 GMT
#3391
For the paranoid people, BH can 100% confirm himself tonight by JKing me.
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February 20 2015 21:23 GMT
#3392
Also what's up people.
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February 20 2015 21:33 GMT
#3393
I think wagons on both prplhz and slam is good start to this day.

##Vote: prplhz
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February 20 2015 21:38 GMT
#3397
On February 21 2015 06:35 ritoky wrote:
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On February 21 2015 06:33 Superbia wrote:
I think wagons on both prplhz and slam is good start to this day.

##Vote: prplhz


1) what is wrong with the LS vote?

2) why the hell would you ever vote on some1 who is en route to be modkilled?


I don't think LS is scum.

What's the status on prplhz? Is he set to be modkilled, replaced or warned?
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February 20 2015 21:39 GMT
#3398
On February 21 2015 06:36 Fecalfeast wrote:
new scum strat, afk until 5 mins before deadline so nobody votes me for being en route to be modkilled


Not entirely unfeasible, but this is not MYLO. Also there's a replacement ready in the player list.
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February 20 2015 21:43 GMT
#3403
On February 21 2015 06:39 ritoky wrote:
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On February 21 2015 06:38 Superbia wrote:
On February 21 2015 06:35 ritoky wrote:
On February 21 2015 06:33 Superbia wrote:
I think wagons on both prplhz and slam is good start to this day.

##Vote: prplhz


1) what is wrong with the LS vote?

2) why the hell would you ever vote on some1 who is en route to be modkilled?


I don't think LS is scum.

What's the status on prplhz? Is he set to be modkilled, replaced or warned?


Why?


It's in my filter. His filter seems very similar to his town game and absolutely dissimilar to his scum game. I would be fine with you starting a wagon on him and seeing how it plays out.
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#3406
On February 21 2015 06:43 ritoky wrote:
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On February 21 2015 06:43 Superbia wrote:
On February 21 2015 06:39 ritoky wrote:
On February 21 2015 06:38 Superbia wrote:
On February 21 2015 06:35 ritoky wrote:
On February 21 2015 06:33 Superbia wrote:
I think wagons on both prplhz and slam is good start to this day.

##Vote: prplhz


1) what is wrong with the LS vote?

2) why the hell would you ever vote on some1 who is en route to be modkilled?


I don't think LS is scum.

What's the status on prplhz? Is he set to be modkilled, replaced or warned?


Why?


It's in my filter. His filter seems very similar to his town game and absolutely dissimilar to his scum game. I would be fine with you starting a wagon on him and seeing how it plays out.


I did over 24 hours ago?

Did you not read pages 158-161? I put NOTICE in caps that everyone needs to read it.


Yeah, I noticed it, and it's what put you on my town circle (after you feel off early d2). Rereading complete context atm and seeing how Damdred's interaction fits in.
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#3407
On February 21 2015 06:45 Blazinghand wrote:
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On February 21 2015 06:23 Superbia wrote:
For the paranoid people, BH can 100% confirm himself tonight by JKing me.


Yeah and I'll be shot, which will make me even MORE confirmed! I don't mind that outcome for tonight


I think this is going to happen a 100% tonight anyway.
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February 20 2015 22:03 GMT
#3410
LS this case better be good.

Breshke EoD1: Willing to move vote to RSO, not LS. Also Breshke had weak-ass reads on you.

Looking at Damd's filter, he does interact with the slip situation, but it is weak, and his line of questioning seem to indicate that he would rather implicate the people doubting the slip than the people involved in the slip.
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#3450
On February 21 2015 09:35 VayneAuthority wrote:
There is no cop in this game, The millers are just for show. I am pretty certain on the setup at this point. Vig should claim ASAP to help solve the game.


I doubt there's a vig at this point in time. I also don't think there is a cop.
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#3510
On February 21 2015 07:08 LightningStrike wrote:
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On February 21 2015 07:03 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 21 2015 06:56 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 21 2015 06:42 Half the Sky wrote:
On February 21 2015 05:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay let's lynch Slam he seems like his mafia meta from Slytherin this game. He doesn't seem to scum hunt or do his own pushes and wouldn't push any of his reads this game. He's Mafia this game and here's his filter from that game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477307-slytherin-mini-mafia?user=Alakaslam
##Vote: Alakaslam


LS, you were town in Horn. I believe one of the points for improvement in your town game that was mentioned to you post game is not to throw links at people if you want to make a case. Go into that filter and draw out the quotes that parallel the points you are trying to make against Slam.

If you are town, I think you can do this. <3

Will try but don't expect the same level of case I did on JAT being Mafia.

Setting yourself up for mediocrity is the first step to achieving it

I just going to quote my case on JAT being Mafia so you can read it:
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On February 10 2015 00:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay guys I'm back and now I bring the case on why JAT is confirmed Mafia. Now lets start with my first piece of evidence his case on HF on page 15 of his filter:
On February 07 2015 23:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, so first of all HF is one of the best if not the best scum player on this site. You won't catch him for being inactive uninteresting or any of this shit and he will bus teammates who are playing badly. He will say towny stuff from time to time and he is also perfectly able to "mindmeld" with you at times. You need to look for the agenda he is pushing.

This is why he is mafia:

This is the start of his rsoultin scumread day1. From now on she is basically his #1 scumread.
On February 05 2015 07:03 Holyflare wrote:
I mean if i'm honest I'm probably more sure about rs than damdy

On February 05 2015 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
yeh rsoul is green when I just gave the best case against her ever

On February 05 2015 09:20 Holyflare wrote:
rs is like the biggest mafia and hardly anyone is mentioning her and goes off making cases on other people instead

On February 05 2015 10:10 Holyflare wrote:
On February 05 2015 10:07 Eden1892 wrote:
And shit you said Damdred got more townie. So even if rsoultin didn't, it's bullshit that you're telling me you still have a scumread and so you're content with being lazy.


it is what it is, rsoul has literally posted nothing all game and it hasn't really changed i don't care what your gut tells you or not

On February 06 2015 02:50 Holyflare wrote:
On February 06 2015 02:45 batsnacks wrote:
On February 06 2015 02:43 Holyflare wrote:
I'm at a crossroads between just not giving a crap about the game and giving a modicum of care towards the game with an emphasis on the former and it's somewhat annoying to me.

Nobody even mentioned me other than eden and i haven't even done anything this game really which is super boring and probably means mafia is the weaker players.


I'd vote you if that makes you feel better.

Breshke though... Really...


I'm more inclined to vote rs tbh


But when the deadline comes nearer and people are not all about lynching rsoultin he completely forgets about the read. He isn't decided on who to lynch and has MULTIPLE different targets suddenly that he keeps pushing really hard:
On February 06 2015 07:52 Holyflare wrote:
let's kill oneguuuuuuuuuu

if i'm wrong you can flame me for wasting your time

On February 06 2015 07:56 Holyflare wrote:
abandon wagon ABANDON WAGON

SHEEP TO DAMDRED OR I LYNCH YOU TOMORROW

On February 06 2015 07:57 Holyflare wrote:
god this breshke is actually 100% mafia or something

Notice how ALL of those are town and he can jump between them as much as he wants if he is mafia. No mention of rsoulting ever during all of this.
So what has rsoultin done to make him forget about her? The answer is absolutely nothing. She disappeared like he will say himself later.

Ok, so mislynch accomplished. Back to scumreading rsoultin immediately:
On February 06 2015 08:24 Holyflare wrote:
it's funny how rsoul just appeared at deadline to vote onegu and then completely disappeared again so probably 100% breshke/jat/rsoul


So, I point this out and this is his reaction:
On February 07 2015 01:15 Holyflare wrote:
How have I treated rs? I've thought she was mafia all game and at deadline onegu was way more convincing mafia but then he wasn't mafia so i went back to talking about rs being mafia?

Then where was this read during eod? He literally went after 3 other people and said nothing about her.
If you want to know how town HF handles his scumreads eod look at void mafia. He scumread HTS and pushed her hard even though noone else really was up for it besides Kelsier. He didn't give a fuck about other targets - he pushed HIS scumread.
Now he claimes he scumread rsoulting all game and then he does nothing about getting her lynched? There is no way town HF does this.
He is INSISTING that he never dropped his rsoultin reads though:
On February 07 2015 01:24 Holyflare wrote:
No it's not he said my read progression is damning because I drop it when I haven't


And then the real gem comes:
On February 07 2015 02:00 Holyflare wrote:
I'm also going to preemptively defend myself from a jat onslaught by saying i wasn't invested in this game at all until deadline so my rs read isn't very concrete compared to reads i was making in real time then. Seeing as I was mostly trolling, apart from the nagging what if on damdred.

Not only can you easily see the guilty conscience - he knows I am town and that I caught him and will push him - but SUDDENLY HIS READ WASN'T VERY CONCRETE?
Read the posts I quoted earlier again and decide for yourself if you want to believe this and keep in mind that he "scumread rsoultin all game" and "never dropped the read".

This guy is mafia. I will show more reasons but this rsoultin read evolution is damning enough on it's own and I don't want the post to get too big.

On February 07 2015 23:51 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 06 2015 08:51 Holyflare wrote:
pretty sure a town jat would have switched to onegu when I was pushing for it

Then we have this reasoning for scumreading me which makes no sense in the first place since I had more reasons to scumread SL than Onegu but even if we ignore this - why would I as scum make myself look bad by not following town marv and HF around (which I have done as scum before) if all lynch targets are town anyways and I could just switch as often as I want?
On February 06 2015 09:33 Holyflare wrote:
yeh mafia is undeniably palmar or jat because they are just the type of people to qq in their scum qt/pms about modkilling

I already commented on this post. It is just another awful reason to push me.
On February 06 2015 13:43 Holyflare wrote:
I'm still 100% lynching jat though he's done a void all over again where he avoids all the wagons and reasoning while still agreeing with it. He did the exact same thing in heavyweight too.

Flat out lying when I clearly WAS on one of the wagons and was also pushing it. Saying I avoided wagons in heavyweight is also a straight lie.

Then his defense against me:
On February 07 2015 01:25 Holyflare wrote:
It's absolutely not irrelevant because do you see him talking about rsoul at deadline? Absolutely not so if he is town then why does his read make sense to him when he did the same thing?

This is absolutely irrelevant. I was not the one pushing rsoulting as my top scumread.
On February 07 2015 01:32 Holyflare wrote:
On February 07 2015 01:26 marvellosity wrote:
his rsoul read came subsequently, pretty obviously, and yours didn't

so.


Rsoul has been in his poe list and someone he could have lynched the entire game and he barely ever commented on her

Like it doesn't matter anyway because his read is totally irrelevant if you read the deadline and if it's his only proper read this game when it should be pretty damn easy to poe the majority of mafia then he doesn't have much hope

Another lie. He said this when I had just poe'ed the mafia team a few posts before this. Still going on about how I read rsoultin which has nothing to do with my argument against him.
On February 07 2015 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
which is a pain because my effort level is low and i know jat is just going to whine and make it difficult to lynch him

He knows I am town and won't let myself be mislynched without putting up a fight.

Now if you looked in Void Mafia he was just as aggressive towards HF at Pages 1,2, and 3 of his filter on these same type of behavior towards a different player named Half the Sky before turned his attention to his scum read Marv in that game. Also note his behavior after HF backed off of JAT , JAT started to like him in Void Mafia at page 4.
From Void Mafia:
On January 21 2015 04:27 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
On January 20 2015 23:12 marvellosity wrote:
On January 20 2015 22:10 marvellosity wrote:
I'm pretty confident on one mafia, but you're gonna have to wait for those pearls of wisdom until tomorrow.

P.S. I thought HF was leaning town already due to how he backed off his Wile push.

^
I liked that too but he would've made himself look pretty awful had he kept pushing.

Now if you look at his behavior regarding the votes on him or prssure on him he just attacked everyone including me and HF in this game. He did similar behavior throughout Void Mafia as scum and here is a convenient quote that JAT also in this game when someone mention him as scum in void Mafia when Koshi was town:
On January 23 2015 08:03 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
On January 23 2015 08:02 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. Tomorrow I sheep HF. Just got to check he isnt as crazy as I was in the previous game. Maybe lynch Wile and then HTS. But hts will have to go soon.

no comment

and now here's some similar type of quotes from this game:
On February 09 2015 03:12 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 09 2015 03:09 Holyflare wrote:
I still think it's jat :p

No comment.

On February 09 2015 02:54 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 09 2015 02:52 batsnacks wrote:
On February 09 2015 02:52 marvellosity wrote:
HF is 100% mafia, don't tell I didn't tell you so Eden.

DO NOT SAY I DID NOT TELL YOU SO.


jat is mafia too?

That's the part where it gets ridiculous.

Notice how he got angry on people wanting to lynch him throughout this game and in void he displayed the same behavior. When I played with him in Metal Mini he didn't seem to get mad as easily as this game and was activly solve the game there too.

Brb making case on Slam.


What happened to this?
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February 22 2015 00:42 GMT
#3579
LS what are your thoughts on slam?
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#3581
On February 22 2015 09:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Slam is Slam you wont figure him out I feel. What you thought of my case on prplhz?


I'm wondering what happened to your case on slam. Why did you switch to prplhz?
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February 22 2015 00:50 GMT
#3582
Like you had him as non-confirmed town yesterday. What happened?
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February 22 2015 00:51 GMT
#3583
Slam too. What the hell?
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February 22 2015 00:53 GMT
#3585
Then what happened to Slam overnight? You had him as town but you wanted to make a case on him. What?
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February 22 2015 00:55 GMT
#3586
Like where's your case on Fecalfeast, Palmar or rsoultin. The people you are calling mafia. Why the fuck are you making a case on prplhz?
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February 22 2015 00:57 GMT
#3589
On February 22 2015 09:56 LightningStrike wrote:
Oh wtf you misread my entire post of my list post. rsoultin Palmar and FF I had a meta read as town.


What does "POE out of META from being Antitown" mean then?
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February 22 2015 00:59 GMT
#3591
Fair enough. Let me read your case.
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February 22 2015 01:39 GMT
#3597
Officially removed from the game.
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February 22 2015 01:42 GMT
#3598
And damdred alive.
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February 22 2015 01:44 GMT
#3603
On February 22 2015 10:43 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 22 2015 10:39 Superbia wrote:
Officially removed from the game.


What?


I'm not on the vote list. I've been replaced by damdred. :D
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February 22 2015 01:56 GMT
#3604
That fucking LS - HtS interaction is still stuck in my head. I really want one of them to flip. z_z
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February 22 2015 02:05 GMT
#3605
I just had the most insane revelation ever.
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February 22 2015 02:05 GMT
#3606
I'm going to laugh my ass off if this is true.
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February 22 2015 02:06 GMT
#3607
Look at Breshke's filter. What if he only mentioned(/interacted with) town?
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February 22 2015 02:08 GMT
#3609
Breshke:

Never mentions: prplhz
Barely mentions: Palmar, VA
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February 22 2015 02:08 GMT
#3610
And by barely I mean the name shows up once in an off-hand remark.
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February 22 2015 02:09 GMT
#3612
LS your case on prplhz is hard to read. Can you give me a TLDR of a sentence? What's the scummiest thing he has done, in your opinion?
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February 22 2015 02:10 GMT
#3613
On February 22 2015 11:06 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Oh I gotchu, was just looking at wrong filter and had a brain fart.

Pretend it says superbia, i'm not editing


Worst mod ever. >:|
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February 22 2015 02:11 GMT
#3614
I say let's lynch prplhz and let SK shoot LS or Palmar. If we don't hit scum with that then town should uninstall mafia.
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February 22 2015 02:15 GMT
#3616
On February 22 2015 11:13 LightningStrike wrote:
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On February 22 2015 11:11 Superbia wrote:
I say let's lynch prplhz and let SK shoot LS or Palmar. If we don't hit scum with that then town should uninstall mafia.

How do we uninstall this game?


Ask to be IPbanned or something.
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February 22 2015 02:18 GMT
#3617
Town people not voting on prplhz should provide an elaborate and detailed step-by-step on how they plan on uninstalling mafia.
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February 22 2015 02:21 GMT
#3620
On February 22 2015 11:20 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 22 2015 11:08 Superbia wrote:
Breshke:

Never mentions: prplhz
Barely mentions: Palmar, VA


Did this revelation come from my earlier post detailing just that? xP Which is why I'm considering LS hard right now as a player Breshke townread but didn't interact with?


This revelation is fresh as fuck (at least to me). Prplhz is never mentioned by breshke.
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February 22 2015 02:25 GMT
#3623
I don't think Breshke's filter implicates LS at all, tbh.
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February 22 2015 02:28 GMT
#3626
On February 22 2015 11:25 rsoultin wrote:
Oh, btw, there's an interesting gem I noticed in reading LS' filter where ritoky mentioned that he "can" tunnel as either alignment.

Which put me in mind of reading the scum QT after Carol where ritoky justified tunnel bussing HF by saying that he always tunnels as town.

Something that makes me think that ritoky may be our third party if this is a departure from both his town and scum games.


I really like this conclusion. I had not considered it before, but I kind of like Ritoky as SK.
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February 22 2015 02:31 GMT
#3627
On February 22 2015 11:27 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 22 2015 11:21 Superbia wrote:
On February 22 2015 11:20 rsoultin wrote:
On February 22 2015 11:08 Superbia wrote:
Breshke:

Never mentions: prplhz
Barely mentions: Palmar, VA


Did this revelation come from my earlier post detailing just that? xP Which is why I'm considering LS hard right now as a player Breshke townread but didn't interact with?


This revelation is fresh as fuck (at least to me). Prplhz is never mentioned by breshke.


;o; not reading my posts. meanie

Okay, well, what about VA's point? I do get that scum can buss...hell I bussed the shit out of JAT when hardly anyone else was to get the cop to claim. A clever play but lol ultimately not the best one. The point is, usually doesn't bussing occur either when the main wagon is so strong it's low risk, or when scum is the main wagon and there's little-to-no hope of saving a scummate?

I don't think prplhz's vote qualifies as either. I'd definitely vote him over LS right now, though, pending a closer read of ritoky's case.


VA's point made me read him town, he has a good point, but I want to see some pressure on prplhz.

I have so many town-reads right now it's not even funny.
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#3631
On February 22 2015 07:50 Palmar wrote:
please no shenanigans. I know there is not a single vote on me but I just feel the shennies lurking around the corner.

I WILL defend myself if put under pressure as town. It's objectively bad play to not give myself a chance to do so.


This post annoys the shit out me.
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February 22 2015 02:48 GMT
#3640
On February 22 2015 11:41 Fecalfeast wrote:
super did you comment on my palmar stuff?


I just read it. I actually really like the interaction between Palmar and Damdred part. I hate the last post in Palmar's filter because I wanted to propose a lynch on him. Feels like he's softing PR.
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#3643
On February 22 2015 11:48 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On February 22 2015 11:47 rsoultin wrote:
On February 18 2015 05:39 Fecalfeast wrote:
SK can eat bullets


???????

SK can eat bullets in the same way superbia ate a bullet you didn't look at that in context


SK can pick between being immune to cop-reads or being one-shot bulletproof.
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#3644
The fact that there is no cop in this game would mean the SK is bulletproof.
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February 22 2015 02:52 GMT
#3650
On February 22 2015 11:50 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 22 2015 11:49 Superbia wrote:
The fact that there is no cop in this game would mean the SK is bulletproof.


And he would know that at the beginning of the game, how?


I agree that it seems rather TMI. It's just a added note for now. The SK is bulletproof for sure.

Would SK!Palmar flip-flop his reads on Damdred to leave no trail for his shot?
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February 22 2015 02:53 GMT
#3653
On February 22 2015 11:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On February 22 2015 11:49 Superbia wrote:
The fact that there is no cop in this game would mean the SK is bulletproof.

SK wouldn't know that


That's actually true.. Sent would have to balance the PRs after the SK chose his role. It's possible but meh? I guess nothing is excluded.
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February 22 2015 02:55 GMT
#3656
On February 22 2015 11:54 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On February 22 2015 11:52 Superbia wrote:
On February 22 2015 11:50 rsoultin wrote:
On February 22 2015 11:49 Superbia wrote:
The fact that there is no cop in this game would mean the SK is bulletproof.


And he would know that at the beginning of the game, how?


I agree that it seems rather TMI. It's just a added note for now. The SK is bulletproof for sure.

Would SK!Palmar flip-flop his reads on Damdred to leave no trail for his shot?

How do you know the SK is bulletproof mr."I got shot"?


Actually giving the SK the option to be immune to checks in a game with no cop seems mean as fuck.
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February 22 2015 03:00 GMT
#3660
I think Palmar is either scum or SK at this point in time.
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February 22 2015 03:02 GMT
#3663
Actually Palmar is never the SK. He was JKed N1. 3 KP was present.
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February 22 2015 03:04 GMT
#3666
Also SK KP is probably never on me. Palmar got JKed by TP, as was asked at EoN, which makes this the most likely world by 95%:
- mafia RB on BH.
- mafia KP on TP.
- 50% mafia KP on me, who is universally town read.

Or mafia had a PR read on KSC and the 50% KP was put on TP??? Very unlikely.
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February 22 2015 03:04 GMT
#3669
On February 22 2015 12:03 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On February 22 2015 12:02 Superbia wrote:
Actually Palmar is never the SK. He was JKed N1. 3 KP was present.

Which has been discussed two times before this? I think so. I know palmar mentioned it and so did I


Yeah, I forgot. I think I'd be okay with a Palmar lynch, maybe.
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February 22 2015 04:01 GMT
#3703
On February 22 2015 12:57 Blazinghand wrote:
are we really not lynching LS?

also superbia could easily be SK, but we're not lynching him today anyways. universally non-mafia read, not universally townread

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On February 22 2015 12:45 rsoultin wrote:
On February 19 2015 08:36 Fecalfeast wrote:
WIFOM ALERT:

I would be so hype to be SK ritoky so that argument doesn't scare me.


FF has an 18-page filter this game. I repeat, 18-page filter. Usually we have to beg him to play lol ><


words, words, words


I'd propose a JK on me tonight if I was the SK?
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February 22 2015 04:07 GMT
#3710
On February 22 2015 13:06 prplhz wrote:
i mean look at the people caring that i'm suddenly getting lynched over LS. it's really just BH who has the slightest problem with it, everybody else is like "whatevs".


Who are you scum reading?
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February 22 2015 04:11 GMT
#3720
On February 22 2015 13:09 prplhz wrote:
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On February 22 2015 13:07 Superbia wrote:
On February 22 2015 13:06 prplhz wrote:
i mean look at the people caring that i'm suddenly getting lynched over LS. it's really just BH who has the slightest problem with it, everybody else is like "whatevs".


Who are you scum reading?

FF palmar rito rso

yes i know there's one too many


What happened to slam?
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February 22 2015 04:13 GMT
#3723
On February 22 2015 13:11 Blazinghand wrote:
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On February 22 2015 12:59 rsoultin wrote:
On February 22 2015 12:57 Blazinghand wrote:
are we really not lynching LS?

also superbia could easily be SK, but we're not lynching him today anyways. universally non-mafia read, not universally townread

On February 22 2015 12:45 rsoultin wrote:
On February 19 2015 08:36 Fecalfeast wrote:
WIFOM ALERT:

I would be so hype to be SK ritoky so that argument doesn't scare me.


FF has an 18-page filter this game. I repeat, 18-page filter. Usually we have to beg him to play lol ><


words, words, words


I refuted your case on LS, and I trust my toneread (with a 100% success rate, btw) way more than your sniping, anyway. ritoky's case was better.


saying something doesn't make it true

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On February 22 2015 13:01 Superbia wrote:
On February 22 2015 12:57 Blazinghand wrote:
are we really not lynching LS?

also superbia could easily be SK, but we're not lynching him today anyways. universally non-mafia read, not universally townread

On February 22 2015 12:45 rsoultin wrote:
On February 19 2015 08:36 Fecalfeast wrote:
WIFOM ALERT:

I would be so hype to be SK ritoky so that argument doesn't scare me.


FF has an 18-page filter this game. I repeat, 18-page filter. Usually we have to beg him to play lol ><


words, words, words


I'd propose a JK on me tonight if I was the SK?


The fact that you made this statement is pretty awful. Any player on my level wouldn't make this statement. Now that you've said it, me JKing you this night does nothing since the SK would shoot at you (shot gets blocked, you get lynched tomorrow). If you never mentioned this it would have worked, and obviously I as a high level player was going to Jail you tonight. You fool. You utter fool.

Or of course you're SK and now if I JK you there's an excuse for no KP going through.


Uh-uh.
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February 22 2015 04:14 GMT
#3727
Anyone up for a yolo-switch to Palmar?
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February 22 2015 04:16 GMT
#3731
BH, the fact that you put suspicion on me enabled that SK play. Any blame on me is just the same reflected on a lower level. Whatever.
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February 22 2015 04:17 GMT
#3732
On February 22 2015 13:16 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 22 2015 13:14 Superbia wrote:
Anyone up for a yolo-switch to Palmar?


I prefer prplhz to Palmar. Why?


I don't know. Gut. I'm doubting on prplhz, especially after the shit VA brought up.
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February 22 2015 04:20 GMT
#3739
Where's slam?
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February 22 2015 04:27 GMT
#3747
On February 22 2015 13:24 Blazinghand wrote:
Prplhx had e good chance to flip scum. I will shed no tears for him. Nonetheless ls is a better lynch and so is VA

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On February 22 2015 13:16 Superbia wrote:
BH, the fact that you put suspicion on me enabled that SK play. Any blame on me is just the same reflected on a lower level. Whatever.


Nicely deflected. I have no interest in lynching you today, worry not


If SK is confident in taking me into end-game I'll be more than happy. If we reach final 3 or something like that I'll be confirmed due to set up information.
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February 22 2015 04:28 GMT
#3748
BH what are your thoughts on prplhz?
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February 22 2015 04:35 GMT
#3751
What about Palmar and Slam?
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February 22 2015 04:36 GMT
#3752
Like I'm really considering switching to LS but I think he may be town as well. I have no idea what this game is about.
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February 22 2015 04:38 GMT
#3755
On February 22 2015 13:37 Blazinghand wrote:
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On February 22 2015 13:35 Superbia wrote:
What about Palmar and Slam?


Slam town, Palmar scummish but not on the top of my lynch chart.


Who's LS with?
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February 22 2015 04:39 GMT
#3758
On February 22 2015 13:38 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 22 2015 13:36 Superbia wrote:
Like I'm really considering switching to LS but I think he may be town as well. I have no idea what this game is about.


Why do you think prplhz is town? The vote on Breshke earlier? That's like...my only reservation whatsoever right now.


He's sounding town, kind of. Also VA's point was pretty solid. Also no one is fucking doubting this lynch.
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February 22 2015 04:40 GMT
#3759
I want to kill Palmar.
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February 22 2015 04:40 GMT
#3760
Anyone in?
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February 22 2015 04:43 GMT
#3765
This is way too quiet.
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February 22 2015 04:44 GMT
#3767
I think both wagons are probably town. At least I have no idea which one to choose at this point in time. I think Palmar is the target.
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February 22 2015 04:47 GMT
#3771
On February 22 2015 13:45 prplhz wrote:
superbia tell me why fecalfeast isn't scum

just 2 paragraphs my eyes hurt


His points on Palmar were good. His playstyle kind of fits my soul-read on him. But it was doubtful. He said some stuff later that made me townread him, not much has changed. I may be completely wrong here, but I'm not willing to yolo-switch to him.
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February 22 2015 04:49 GMT
#3775
I honestly have no fucking idea where I put my vote here.
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February 22 2015 04:50 GMT
#3778
I may switch as well.
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February 22 2015 04:51 GMT
#3779
This game is so dumb and confusing, it wouldn't actually surprise me if BH was mafia.
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February 22 2015 04:51 GMT
#3780
But I'm never ever seriously considering that world.
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February 22 2015 04:52 GMT
#3782
On February 22 2015 13:51 Half the Sky wrote:
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On February 22 2015 13:50 Superbia wrote:
I may switch as well.


Palmar?

Do we have at least 4 on him?


LS. Maybe.
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February 22 2015 04:52 GMT
#3784
But yes on Palmar if we have 4. Hands, who is willing to switch to Palmar?
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February 22 2015 04:53 GMT
#3791
I don't trust you. I don't really trust anyone but myself. Are you willing to switch to Palmar?
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February 22 2015 04:54 GMT
#3796
On February 22 2015 13:53 Blazinghand wrote:
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On February 22 2015 13:49 prplhz wrote:
every time i read a post by blazinghand i'm becoming more and more convinced he's playing mafia wearing a minnie mouse skirt


I'm shirtless from the waist down

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On February 22 2015 13:51 Superbia wrote:
This game is so dumb and confusing, it wouldn't actually surprise me if BH was mafia.


it would enrage you, though, wouldn't it?


It would impress me. And I would be a little disappointed with Sent.
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February 22 2015 04:54 GMT
#3797
##unvote
##vote Palmar
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February 22 2015 04:54 GMT
#3803
It's not MYLO, I don't think.
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February 22 2015 04:55 GMT
#3806
I voted.
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February 22 2015 04:56 GMT
#3811
Palmar, I think. HAVING DOUBTS NOW TOO. Fuck.
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February 22 2015 04:56 GMT
#3815
Just follow me! I will lead you to victory or oblivion. Probably the last. x:
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February 22 2015 04:57 GMT
#3820
Both SL and prplhz don't want this lynch. Win/win/win?
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February 22 2015 04:59 GMT
#3830
On February 22 2015 13:59 LightningStrike wrote:
If Palmar flips town you know what I will say to you guys.


I hope it's a death-gurgle during the night then. x:
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February 22 2015 05:00 GMT
#3832
CROSS THOSE FINGERS
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February 22 2015 05:10 GMT
#3847
YEAHHHHHHHHHH
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February 22 2015 05:11 GMT
#3848
LEADING THIS BITCH TO VICTORY
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February 22 2015 05:17 GMT
#3860
In his defense BH, he does have many case.
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February 22 2015 05:19 GMT
#3862
That FF case was pretty damn good. But I made you guys switch. Pls credits.
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February 22 2015 05:19 GMT
#3866
:3
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February 22 2015 05:24 GMT
#3872
This flip and the last minute switches made the game this much easier for me.
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February 22 2015 05:35 GMT
#3887
I'm off to bed! See you guys tomorrow. :D GJ team.
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February 22 2015 15:28 GMT
#3900
Yeah. I have some thoughts to put down already, but will wait till 1-2m before EoN.
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February 22 2015 17:45 GMT
#3904
Are you scared of dying LS?
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February 23 2015 04:58 GMT
#3950
So I may very well die tonight, and it does not implicate BH. Scum probably still has the one-shot RB left from the JoaT.

So here are the people that are confirmed not mafia if neither LS or prplhz is the JoaT:
- FF
- RSO
- HtS

The fact that neither prplhz or LS wanted to switch to Palmar implies that at least one of them is scum. I honestly believe it's prplhz, but it may very well be LS (#1 helpful insights). I really hope the SK shoots LS tonight, since a lot of the game revolves around his alignment. I think he probably is town though.

Let's move on to scum.

So 1 between prplhz and LS seems likely.
4th scum is probably slam.

SK is probably ritoky, small possibility of FF.
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February 23 2015 04:59 GMT
#3951
Short but sweet.
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February 23 2015 04:59 GMT
#3952
Wait if BH is reading VA scum take a look at him as well.
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February 23 2015 05:01 GMT
#3955
GG. Good luck town. Well played RSO. ;p
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February 25 2015 11:24 GMT
#4126
Consider the scenarios, though.

1. Don't say anything:
Town basically straight up loses because it is very likely that at least one, if not both the JKs get lynched. Worst case scenario, imo.

2. Say something:
This sucks for mafia because there are basically two mod-confirmed town right off the bat (even though a part of town still doubted this until the very end), on the flip side both the save roles are outed. Town-favored, since it mod confirms two town and prevents mafia from fake claiming their roles at any point.

3. Say something and restart the game:
I think this might have been a decent solution, since it was only day 1. This gives both town and mafia some insight as to what the set up is. However, it is still town-favored since the exact number of roles are now known so a fake claim is slightly harder.


I think the best way to prevent this sort of situation is to tell both JKs that there is another JK in their role PM.
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February 25 2015 11:29 GMT
#4131
On February 25 2015 20:28 Palmar wrote:
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On February 25 2015 20:24 Superbia wrote:
Consider the scenarios, though.

1. Don't say anything:
Town basically straight up loses because it is very likely that at least one, if not both the JKs get lynched. Worst case scenario, imo.

2. Say something:
This sucks for mafia because there are basically two mod-confirmed town right off the bat (even though a part of town still doubted this until the very end), on the flip side both the save roles are outed. Town-favored, since it mod confirms two town and prevents mafia from fake claiming their roles at any point.

3. Say something and restart the game:
I think this might have been a decent solution, since it was only day 1. This gives both town and mafia some insight as to what the set up is. However, it is still town-favored since the exact number of roles are now known so a fake claim is slightly harder.


I think the best way to prevent this sort of situation is to tell both JKs that there is another JK in their role PM.


If town is moronic enough to lynch off setup speculations, that's their problem. Not mine.


They both got the exact same role names. I don't know, maybe town needed a hard wake up call in this regard. But then we'd have townies bringing heat to Sent in post-game.
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February 25 2015 11:34 GMT
#4136
On February 25 2015 20:29 marvellosity wrote:
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On February 25 2015 20:24 Superbia wrote:
Consider the scenarios, though.

1. Don't say anything:
Town basically straight up loses because it is very likely that at least one, if not both the JKs get lynched. Worst case scenario, imo.


2. Say something:
This sucks for mafia because there are basically two mod-confirmed town right off the bat (even though a part of town still doubted this until the very end), on the flip side both the save roles are outed. Town-favored, since it mod confirms two town and prevents mafia from fake claiming their roles at any point.

3. Say something and restart the game:
I think this might have been a decent solution, since it was only day 1. This gives both town and mafia some insight as to what the set up is. However, it is still town-favored since the exact number of roles are now known so a fake claim is slightly harder.


I think the best way to prevent this sort of situation is to tell both JKs that there is another JK in their role PM.

This really is town's problem to deal with. Flavour is always just flavour, and there was nothing in the ruleset preventing there being 2 JKs. The compensation for the difficulty in understanding there are 2 JKs is, well, the fact that town has 2 god-damn JKs.

Town just needs to apply logic + reads. Does scumBH claim JK in that spot? (maybe) Does he have the appropriate crumbs ready?

Does scumEden counterclaim JK in that spot for a bizarro 1 for 1? Does this ever happen, ever? (hint: no)

The setup allows for 7 medics and 3 vigilantes, it's up to town to sort out who is what and why.


The problem for me was that BH's claim came out of nowhere. I'm not sure why town was so eager to jump on a wagon though. In retrospect and in light of Palmar and your arguments respectively, I think it may have been better to have town just suicide in order to learn.

I'd like to imagine I would disassemble the wagons regardless of the mod post. I did not really believe either of the claims were mafia coming into the thread. Maybe too much fantasy, though. :D
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February 25 2015 11:37 GMT
#4139
On February 25 2015 20:36 Palmar wrote:
This is the reasons I create setups with a mason.

A single mason, who can talk to all the other masons. All of who are himself.


Remarkable, no doubt. :D


Also, Sent, the spreadsheet link is broken.
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February 25 2015 11:40 GMT
#4146
On February 25 2015 20:37 rsoultin wrote:
lol

I just called TP stupid for CCing there. Why does doc CC on Day 1 anyway? JK/doc, whatever. I just 100% wouldn't. You're useless doing that even if you believe the other guy is mafia. I never understand this.

Like Slam, he played his role perfectly. Didn't bother with CCing the fake cop claims, just kept plugging along.


1v1 trade with mafia is always favorable for town. I do agree that you should evaluate the claim appropriately, but it might lose you the game and catch you flak during post-game.
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February 25 2015 11:41 GMT
#4147
On February 25 2015 20:39 marvellosity wrote:
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On February 25 2015 20:37 Superbia wrote:
On February 25 2015 20:36 Palmar wrote:
This is the reasons I create setups with a mason.

A single mason, who can talk to all the other masons. All of who are himself.


Remarkable, no doubt. :D


Also, Sent, the spreadsheet link is broken.

I'm marv. and fixed


You're Sent now.
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February 25 2015 11:42 GMT
#4149
Why is my day 1 vote "something". Jesus, no wonder we miss-lynched d1. These mods man.
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February 25 2015 11:50 GMT
#4158
On February 25 2015 20:44 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 25 2015 20:40 Superbia wrote:
On February 25 2015 20:37 rsoultin wrote:
lol

I just called TP stupid for CCing there. Why does doc CC on Day 1 anyway? JK/doc, whatever. I just 100% wouldn't. You're useless doing that even if you believe the other guy is mafia. I never understand this.

Like Slam, he played his role perfectly. Didn't bother with CCing the fake cop claims, just kept plugging along.


1v1 trade with mafia is always favorable for town. I do agree that you should evaluate the claim appropriately, but it might lose you the game and catch you flak during post-game.


no, I agree that a 1v1 trade with mafia is favorable for town

so if you're in mylo, great, but day 1? you still have the chance to gain more lynches due to good doctoring plus you already know a scum so you can learn a lot just watching them

eh, but I guess not everyone agrees with that


If you encounter a good mafia fake claim and you let the claim go unchecked it's very possible you're gonna get rekt if you do that. x:

Like you're literally losing a lynch and missing the opportunity to lynch confirmed mafia.

If your role gets claimed and you think the person claiming is mafia, you CC 100%.
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February 25 2015 11:51 GMT
#4159
May be some exceptional exceptions to that rule, but whatever. Mafia usually claims knowing they will get CCed.
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February 25 2015 12:01 GMT
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I wasn't really townreading prplhz when the wagon was on both him and LS. I felt too many townies were divided between the two wagon and I wasn't sure about either of them.

I paid too much respect to the opinions of people who put a lot of time into the game (including rso), and it really fucked up my d2 play (though my d1 play was quite shit as well). Next time I'm going to be adamant about my own opinion. Also, I'm going to pay more attention to rayn's reads if/after he's confirmed town.
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February 25 2015 12:07 GMT
#4181
On February 25 2015 21:04 marvellosity wrote:
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On February 25 2015 21:01 Superbia wrote:
I wasn't really townreading prplhz when the wagon was on both him and LS. I felt too many townies were divided between the two wagon and I wasn't sure about either of them.

I paid too much respect to the opinions of people who put a lot of time into the game (including rso), and it really fucked up my d2 play (though my d1 play was quite shit as well). Next time I'm going to be adamant about my own opinion. Also, I'm going to pay more attention to rayn's reads if/after he's confirmed town.

I'm not sure this is what you should be taking away really. It's good to listen to other people. Your problem would be (if I go by this paragraph alone) that you were putting faith in someone with a lot of posts and not correctly being suspicious of their motives. Listening to others is dandy, just make sure they're town first


The problem was mostly that I was listening to people because I thought they had put a lot of time into the game, even though I was disagreeing with what they were saying. I agree that listening and cooperating with people is key to the game, but that time put into the game is a wrong metric to follow (it was mostly guilt that I had put less time into the game than others, which led me to pursue my own reads less because I felt it would be unfair).
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February 25 2015 12:08 GMT
#4182
On February 25 2015 21:05 rsoultin wrote:
super, you played well, no worries

i'm looking forward to playing with you when we're both town again ^^


Thanks, but I could have played better. Always looking to improve for next game.
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February 25 2015 12:33 GMT
#4199
Shout out to FF. The curse is officially broken.
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February 25 2015 12:35 GMT
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On February 25 2015 21:18 ritoky wrote:
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On February 25 2015 21:07 Superbia wrote:
On February 25 2015 21:04 marvellosity wrote:
On February 25 2015 21:01 Superbia wrote:
I wasn't really townreading prplhz when the wagon was on both him and LS. I felt too many townies were divided between the two wagon and I wasn't sure about either of them.

I paid too much respect to the opinions of people who put a lot of time into the game (including rso), and it really fucked up my d2 play (though my d1 play was quite shit as well). Next time I'm going to be adamant about my own opinion. Also, I'm going to pay more attention to rayn's reads if/after he's confirmed town.

I'm not sure this is what you should be taking away really. It's good to listen to other people. Your problem would be (if I go by this paragraph alone) that you were putting faith in someone with a lot of posts and not correctly being suspicious of their motives. Listening to others is dandy, just make sure they're town first


The problem was mostly that I was listening to people because I thought they had put a lot of time into the game, even though I was disagreeing with what they were saying. I agree that listening and cooperating with people is key to the game, but that time put into the game is a wrong metric to follow (it was mostly guilt that I had put less time into the game than others, which led me to pursue my own reads less because I felt it would be unfair).


Some people try harder as town, some people try harder as mafia. People's investment in the game should not be alignment indicative unless they have a very distinct meta that someone who has played lots with them can elaborate on and give reasonable evidence for. Also as town, err on the side of suspicion.


Absolutely. I know this as well, but for guilt-reasons I was unwilling to step on toes. Never again.
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