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Town Puppy
Profile Joined February 2015
United States167 Posts
February 16 2015 02:03 GMT
#1241
On February 16 2015 10:58 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 10:51 Town Puppy wrote:
My play is fine as town. If y'all weren't idiots we would be a lock to lynch scum today.

And I don't throw games as mafia. You saw me give up when I was caught. This isn't the same at all. After how detail-oriented you were about the hts miller thing I know you know this is different than Linux.


I can definitely see a difference, just as I can see a difference between your play this game and your town play from Horn. (Granted, I think you're trying to be less spammy, but it's like night and day.) What I don't understand is why you CCd immediately if you're actually the JK. If you know that you know that you know that BH is lying because you're the JK, then why not reserve that so that you can still use your abilities later? It's not a good play as town and I'm struggling to understand why you would do it now ><

Like, if it were me, I'd target him as JK and see if that effected the night kills, lol.

Trading 1 for 1 is a win for town. I gave it time unintentionally due to work. Think of it as like having a cop check guilty except even more reliable bc miller and framer can't mess with it
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
February 16 2015 02:04 GMT
#1242
tp's the goon so it'd be pointless jking him. Why would the RB/jan/GF CC, that is absurd

Town Puppy
Profile Joined February 2015
United States167 Posts
February 16 2015 02:04 GMT
#1243
Tbh rob you're probs mafia bc you should know I never claim here as scum. So idk why I'm even answering you. Hijole
Town Puppy
Profile Joined February 2015
United States167 Posts
February 16 2015 02:06 GMT
#1244
On February 16 2015 11:04 liancourt wrote:
tp's the goon so it'd be pointless jking him. Why would the RB/jan/GF CC, that is absurd


Do you actually believe what you're saying? I'm contemplating posting my role PM and blacklisting you forever. You are intolerably bad.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
February 16 2015 02:06 GMT
#1245
On February 16 2015 11:04 liancourt wrote:
tp's the goon so it'd be pointless jking him. Why would the RB/jan/GF CC, that is absurd


Can't tell if sarcasm or not.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
February 16 2015 02:07 GMT
#1246
On February 16 2015 11:06 Town Puppy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 11:04 liancourt wrote:
tp's the goon so it'd be pointless jking him. Why would the RB/jan/GF CC, that is absurd


Do you actually believe what you're saying? I'm contemplating posting my role PM and blacklisting you forever. You are intolerably bad.

Don't post your role pm.....
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 16 2015 02:08 GMT
#1247
Nah, lian's right, if mafia's going to CC (or claim in the first place) it's probably the goon doing it. Bugger -_- I still think it's the wrong play by TP, but I can see him thinking it's right.

##unvote
##vote: Blazinghand
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 16 2015 02:09 GMT
#1248
anyone else got that "where in the world is rayn san diego" song stuck in their head?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 16 2015 02:12 GMT
#1249
On February 16 2015 11:04 Town Puppy wrote:
Tbh rob you're probs mafia bc you should know I never claim here as scum. So idk why I'm even answering you. Hijole


tbh you should know that robik is town, and all of this jazz is a bunch of wifom carpet bombing drop by F-22 Suboptimal Play-Copters or as we call them F-22SPCs
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
February 16 2015 02:13 GMT
#1250
I've been paying attention to TP's play.

To an extent, I've been trying ot understand his claim. Why would he do that? It makes almost as little sense as me claiming JK as scum would. For me to claim and get put on the block like this as scum would be an error since I'm a skilled player and probably MVP of any scumteam I'm on. TP isn't as good so it might be more worth it, especially in a trade for me, but... why not just shoot me, as he said? No, the more I think about it, the more I realize that TP would have to be even more not-on-my-level to claim as he did.

But then I realized: TP is so obviously below my level, there's no way he's scum. His scum-team-mates wouldn't let him do this, and he wouldn't even try. A 1-for-1 would only count in a situation that's not where he would get lynched first (and that's where things are going; I'm a much better arguer than him). He and his scummates would KNOW that he's not on my level. They wouldn't try this.

The only explanation that makes sense is that... we must have 2 JKs. It's stupid and our hosts are awful for doing this, but even TP and his scummates must be aware how weak TP is comapred to me in terms of knowledge, skill, and convincing power. As a sacrificial lamb he's not cut out for this strat.

We're both town. We're both JKs. By admitting this, I am basically conceding that I'm going to get lynched, since I won't push him further and will unvote him. I won't succeed in convincing the 2 JK setup, because the only explanaiton for doulble JK is that the HOSTS aren't on my level. They don't know how to balance.

By stopping pushing TP, I am probably letting myself die.

But when I die and flip JK, don't lynch TP. He's also a JK.

When I flip, don't lynch him.

Liancourt knows we're both town. How? Well, he must be scum, and trying to profit after the 2nd one of us flips JK.

Liancourt is the scum. He knows too much. His knowledge doesn't make sense.

After I die, DO NOT lynch TP. lynch Liancourt.

TP is a JK.

Sigh.

##unvote
##vote Liancourt


Palmar, where are you?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 16 2015 02:16 GMT
#1251
I am kinda about that lian/rayn/hts/breshke lyf.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
February 16 2015 02:18 GMT
#1252
I like to play devil's advocate.

When everyone says yes, there has to be that 1 person that says no and analyze everything in favor of it being no. It's a coin flip really. Total wifom. I can uderstand tp claiming and yet i don't understand why he would put himself to his death. 1 for 1 is good for town? Why not survive and use your superior analysis and help town in later days and lynch scum. You know BH is scum them you can see who he is defending and see who he is pushing and who he is out right ignoring. When you die later town will automatically know BH is scum so why CC? You could have been more useful being alive and having that JK power and your power of analysis, why would you give all that up and just die n1? i really just don't understand.
Town Puppy
Profile Joined February 2015
United States167 Posts
February 16 2015 02:19 GMT
#1253
On February 16 2015 11:13 Blazinghand wrote:
I've been paying attention to TP's play.

To an extent, I've been trying ot understand his claim. Why would he do that? It makes almost as little sense as me claiming JK as scum would. For me to claim and get put on the block like this as scum would be an error since I'm a skilled player and probably MVP of any scumteam I'm on. TP isn't as good so it might be more worth it, especially in a trade for me, but... why not just shoot me, as he said? No, the more I think about it, the more I realize that TP would have to be even more not-on-my-level to claim as he did.

But then I realized: TP is so obviously below my level, there's no way he's scum. His scum-team-mates wouldn't let him do this, and he wouldn't even try. A 1-for-1 would only count in a situation that's not where he would get lynched first (and that's where things are going; I'm a much better arguer than him). He and his scummates would KNOW that he's not on my level. They wouldn't try this.

The only explanation that makes sense is that... we must have 2 JKs. It's stupid and our hosts are awful for doing this, but even TP and his scummates must be aware how weak TP is comapred to me in terms of knowledge, skill, and convincing power. As a sacrificial lamb he's not cut out for this strat.

We're both town. We're both JKs. By admitting this, I am basically conceding that I'm going to get lynched, since I won't push him further and will unvote him. I won't succeed in convincing the 2 JK setup, because the only explanaiton for doulble JK is that the HOSTS aren't on my level. They don't know how to balance.

By stopping pushing TP, I am probably letting myself die.

But when I die and flip JK, don't lynch TP. He's also a JK.

When I flip, don't lynch him.

Liancourt knows we're both town. How? Well, he must be scum, and trying to profit after the 2nd one of us flips JK.

Liancourt is the scum. He knows too much. His knowledge doesn't make sense.

After I die, DO NOT lynch TP. lynch Liancourt.

TP is a JK.

Sigh.

##unvote
##vote Liancourt


Palmar, where are you?

L

o

l

Get lynched mafia
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
February 16 2015 02:19 GMT
#1254
On February 16 2015 11:13 Blazinghand wrote:
I've been paying attention to TP's play.

To an extent, I've been trying ot understand his claim. Why would he do that? It makes almost as little sense as me claiming JK as scum would. For me to claim and get put on the block like this as scum would be an error since I'm a skilled player and probably MVP of any scumteam I'm on. TP isn't as good so it might be more worth it, especially in a trade for me, but... why not just shoot me, as he said? No, the more I think about it, the more I realize that TP would have to be even more not-on-my-level to claim as he did.

But then I realized: TP is so obviously below my level, there's no way he's scum. His scum-team-mates wouldn't let him do this, and he wouldn't even try. A 1-for-1 would only count in a situation that's not where he would get lynched first (and that's where things are going; I'm a much better arguer than him). He and his scummates would KNOW that he's not on my level. They wouldn't try this.

The only explanation that makes sense is that... we must have 2 JKs. It's stupid and our hosts are awful for doing this, but even TP and his scummates must be aware how weak TP is comapred to me in terms of knowledge, skill, and convincing power. As a sacrificial lamb he's not cut out for this strat.

We're both town. We're both JKs. By admitting this, I am basically conceding that I'm going to get lynched, since I won't push him further and will unvote him. I won't succeed in convincing the 2 JK setup, because the only explanaiton for doulble JK is that the HOSTS aren't on my level. They don't know how to balance.

By stopping pushing TP, I am probably letting myself die.

But when I die and flip JK, don't lynch TP. He's also a JK.

When I flip, don't lynch him.

Liancourt knows we're both town. How? Well, he must be scum, and trying to profit after the 2nd one of us flips JK.

Liancourt is the scum. He knows too much. His knowledge doesn't make sense.

After I die, DO NOT lynch TP. lynch Liancourt.

TP is a JK.

Sigh.

##unvote
##vote Liancourt


Palmar, where are you?


?
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
February 16 2015 02:21 GMT
#1255
you know BH if you didn't make that post i would have continued to fight your battles. That post just looked desperate.

Desperate scum.

##unvote
##vote BH
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
February 16 2015 02:22 GMT
#1256
TP, you'll thank me after I flip for my foresight-- whether gleefully as scum or sadly as town. You're not even close to on my level, either because you're so bad you CCed as scum when it made no sense, or you can't see the truth of this matter.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
February 16 2015 02:22 GMT
#1257
On February 16 2015 11:21 liancourt wrote:
you know BH if you didn't make that post i would have continued to fight your battles. That post just looked desperate.

Desperate scum.

##unvote
##vote BH


Everyone was is voting for TP is going to vote me. I know what's going to happen. I concede my death. All I ask is this: until I flip, treat me like conftown (still vote me, though) and discuss things with me. Fair?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
February 16 2015 02:24 GMT
#1258
Is anyone around who wants to talk? I'm in the middle of eating but am glad to discuss things. I should try to leave behind a corpus (pun intended) of knowledge so you guys can sheep me after the flip
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Town Puppy
Profile Joined February 2015
United States167 Posts
February 16 2015 02:27 GMT
#1259
On February 16 2015 11:18 liancourt wrote:
I like to play devil's advocate.

When everyone says yes, there has to be that 1 person that says no and analyze everything in favor of it being no. It's a coin flip really. Total wifom. I can uderstand tp claiming and yet i don't understand why he would put himself to his death. 1 for 1 is good for town? Why not survive and use your superior analysis and help town in later days and lynch scum. You know BH is scum them you can see who he is defending and see who he is pushing and who he is out right ignoring. When you die later town will automatically know BH is scum so why CC? You could have been more useful being alive and having that JK power and your power of analysis, why would you give all that up and just die n1? i really just don't understand.

That... Actually makes sense in a way. Ok. I apologize for being mean to you.

There's something else at play, true. It's Mardi Gras week. That means everyone is off of school all week. That means UTTER HELL for the restaurant I work at. I'm working something like 50 hrs this week. I'm already a lot of pages back. I doubt my capacity to catch up and be useful. I see a chance to trade 1-for-1 with mafia and maybe contribute during the night, and given my time available, that's pretty good.

And before anyone says it: yes, this means that ceteris paribus I would be somewhat more likely to trade 1-for-1 as mafia. However, it doesn't affect the decision calculus enough to make that worthwhile when BH could still be guaranteed shot tonight.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 16 2015 02:28 GMT
#1260
what do you wanna talk about BH?
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