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On February 16 2015 09:14 Blazinghand wrote:
Like, this is why I don't trust anyone's meta reads. Here's a lesson for you new kids about meta: you need to look at the counterexample. For example, say we say "Blazinghand is always spammy as scum". Well, guess what, that's true, but I'm also spammy as town. Or, "Blazinghand makes claims as scum" well, sure, I've fakeclaimed as scum, but that doesn't mean that every time I claim I'm scum. In fact, 90% of the time that I claim, I'm town.
ALSO, look at it this way. This is a 17player setup with 5 scum-- town obviously has a good number of PRs. Town has only 4 types of PR, and JK is like the only active saver, so town DEFINITELY has a JK. If I'm scum, why would I claim JK? If I'm scum, I KNOW there's a JK somewhere out there, and I KNOW I'm gonna get CCed. I was under some pressure, sure, but if I were really scum I'd wait until later with the claim when tehre wasn't time for a CC. Jesus christ people, think about it for a moment. Just because I claimed first doesn't make me scum; as scum I'd be anticipating a CC.
The second paragraph is really convincing. The only reason i can give is to bait out the JK but that has the same problem as eden's claim in that I don't think mafia go for a 1 for 1 trade there and obviously there's your point that you would do it later so there wasn't as much time.
I've got to afk for 2 hours be back then
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Blazinghand
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Thanks Breshke.
What is it with a bunch of shady people showing up, voting me, then leaving when I defend myself? What's wrong with you people?
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****I WANT TO MAKE THIS VERY CLEAR SO I'M TYPING IT IN CAPS LOCK AND SURROUNDED BY ASTERISKS*****
IF BOTH BH AND EDEN ARE TOWN, LIAN IS SCUM FOR HOW HE IS PLAYING THIS WHOLE FLIPPY FLOPPY SHIT
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so if i were scum and a jk claimed i wouldn't cc and just let them live to create wifom on d2. The discussion won't go anywhere so long as BH is alive, but since there is no cc town has no choice but to believe BH is JK. So letting BH go unCC'd wouldn't be a primal action so you'd just shoot him n1. But then why would tp CC if scum can just shoot him n1? The only logical explanation would be because he is the real JK, but then why would he cc to commit himself to certain death during night? I dont understand why he would so he must be the goon cc thats taking one for the team because he wanted to have a 1 on 1 battle with BH to see who could win in a battle WIFOM...JUST FOR FUN.
Princess Bride ppl.
Well there you have it TP is scum and just doing this for shits and giggles. I hope he has fun. God speed.
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On February 16 2015 09:41 IAmRobik wrote:
****I WANT TO MAKE THIS VERY CLEAR SO I'M TYPING IT IN CAPS LOCK AND SURROUNDED BY ASTERISKS*****
IF BOTH BH AND EDEN ARE TOWN, LIAN IS SCUM FOR HOW HE IS PLAYING THIS WHOLE FLIPPY FLOPPY SHIT
I <3 you too babe :D no homo
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Canada11355 Posts
I'm conflicted and hungover.
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
On February 16 2015 09:41 IAmRobik wrote:
****I WANT TO MAKE THIS VERY CLEAR SO I'M TYPING IT IN CAPS LOCK AND SURROUNDED BY ASTERISKS*****
IF BOTH BH AND EDEN ARE TOWN, LIAN IS SCUM FOR HOW HE IS PLAYING THIS WHOLE FLIPPY FLOPPY SHIT
This is very smart and a good thought. It's one I had, but I'd have saved it for like, probably right before the flip in case other people tried to get on board.
That being said I think it's pretty unlikely town has double JK. That would be way too strong.
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its scum favored already with that SK anyway, why not 2 JKs lol
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
On February 16 2015 09:49 liancourt wrote:
its scum favored already with that SK anyway, why not 2 JKs lol
SK is slightly scum-favored but is also anti-swing. 2 JKs is really really strong though compared to 1 JK. If you're scum and shooting into a town of 13 players, 1 JK means that your 1 KP goes through like 94% of the tiime. If there are 2 JKs, though, your KP goes through only like 86% of the time or something, assuming they don't overlap. However, since JKs have a certain chance to also RB the KP deliverer, or the vigi if you're delivering a vigi shot as scum, they're even more dangerous.
Also from a balance perspective beyond just who wins, you want scum to feel that their KP is fairly reliable as a tool for removing townies. 2 JKs unlikely.
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Blazinghand
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btw anti-swing means "helps the losing team" becasue eventually sk may shoot into scum if they start winning
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Okay Lian is flipflopping a lot already and just making thing weird. Also I getting a feeling Slam is Mafia this game as well my last one that just finished with a town victory  . Slam is posting a ton of fluff and posting pointless crap which he normally does as Mafia. I think we got 2 Mafia found
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So quiet. I don't like how quiet it is. I think i'd rather lynch eden over BH 
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On February 16 2015 10:14 LightningStrike wrote:Okay Lian is flipflopping a lot already and just making thing weird. Also I getting a feeling Slam is Mafia this game as well my last one that just finished with a town victory . Slam is posting a ton of fluff and posting pointless crap which he normally does as Mafia. I think we got 2 Mafia found
He literally does this every game. He doesn't play mafia. He plays post on a forum
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If anyone want me to make a meta case on Slam being Mafia I can for Day 2/3
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On February 16 2015 10:14 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 10:14 LightningStrike wrote:Okay Lian is flipflopping a lot already and just making thing weird. Also I getting a feeling Slam is Mafia this game as well my last one that just finished with a town victory . Slam is posting a ton of fluff and posting pointless crap which he normally does as Mafia. I think we got 2 Mafia found He literally does this every game. He doesn't play mafia. He plays post on a forum
I played with town Slam and he wasn't very fluffy as far as I remember in Carol of the Bells.
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On February 16 2015 10:15 LightningStrike wrote:
If anyone want me to make a meta case on Slam being Mafia I can for Day 2/3
If you think slam is mafia for meta reasons why do you need thread approval to make a case?
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the current issue is tp and bh like...lol
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On February 16 2015 10:17 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 10:15 LightningStrike wrote:
If anyone want me to make a meta case on Slam being Mafia I can for Day 2/3 If you think slam is mafia for meta reasons why do you need thread approval to make a case?
Because I sometimes I'm wrong on my meta cases like you saw in our last game that just finished rolf. Although I 50-50 on meta cases with being right on JAT in Horns but wrong with how sicklucker busses his partners on Day 1/2 and did it on LM in our game that just finished.
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looks like 4 ppl havent oted yet. I think it's 7-4 in favor of BH. It's definitely flippable.
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I think I'd rather just lynch lian today
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EPT
