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Blazinghand
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On February 16 2015 10:28 liancourt wrote:
I'm all for lynching someone besides BH and tp just to see who they claim to rb on day 2, but why me?
Though this plan would be good because it prevents me from being lynched today, what's to stop scum from not shooting me, RBing me and having TP/Eden claim RB also? We'd be in the same spot tomorrow. There's a chance scum would shoot me, but then we'd just autolynch TP/Eden, so not worth it for them, right
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Blazinghand
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On February 16 2015 10:28 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 10:24 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 16 2015 10:21 IAmRobik wrote:
I think I'd rather just lynch lian today I'm in if you do it first The problem is if one of them IS mafia, then lian is probably town for his flip flop
yeah. and if by some chance we're both town lian is scum
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Blazinghand
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I've been paying attention to TP's play.
To an extent, I've been trying ot understand his claim. Why would he do that? It makes almost as little sense as me claiming JK as scum would. For me to claim and get put on the block like this as scum would be an error since I'm a skilled player and probably MVP of any scumteam I'm on. TP isn't as good so it might be more worth it, especially in a trade for me, but... why not just shoot me, as he said? No, the more I think about it, the more I realize that TP would have to be even more not-on-my-level to claim as he did.
But then I realized: TP is so obviously below my level, there's no way he's scum. His scum-team-mates wouldn't let him do this, and he wouldn't even try. A 1-for-1 would only count in a situation that's not where he would get lynched first (and that's where things are going; I'm a much better arguer than him). He and his scummates would KNOW that he's not on my level. They wouldn't try this.
The only explanation that makes sense is that... we must have 2 JKs. It's stupid and our hosts are awful for doing this, but even TP and his scummates must be aware how weak TP is comapred to me in terms of knowledge, skill, and convincing power. As a sacrificial lamb he's not cut out for this strat.
We're both town. We're both JKs. By admitting this, I am basically conceding that I'm going to get lynched, since I won't push him further and will unvote him. I won't succeed in convincing the 2 JK setup, because the only explanaiton for doulble JK is that the HOSTS aren't on my level. They don't know how to balance.
By stopping pushing TP, I am probably letting myself die.
But when I die and flip JK, don't lynch TP. He's also a JK.
When I flip, don't lynch him.
Liancourt knows we're both town. How? Well, he must be scum, and trying to profit after the 2nd one of us flips JK.
Liancourt is the scum. He knows too much. His knowledge doesn't make sense.
After I die, DO NOT lynch TP. lynch Liancourt.
TP is a JK.
Sigh.
##unvote
##vote Liancourt
Palmar, where are you?
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Blazinghand
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TP, you'll thank me after I flip for my foresight-- whether gleefully as scum or sadly as town. You're not even close to on my level, either because you're so bad you CCed as scum when it made no sense, or you can't see the truth of this matter.
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Blazinghand
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On February 16 2015 11:21 liancourt wrote:
you know BH if you didn't make that post i would have continued to fight your battles. That post just looked desperate.
Desperate scum.
##unvote
##vote BH
Everyone was is voting for TP is going to vote me. I know what's going to happen. I concede my death. All I ask is this: until I flip, treat me like conftown (still vote me, though) and discuss things with me. Fair?
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Blazinghand
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Is anyone around who wants to talk? I'm in the middle of eating but am glad to discuss things. I should try to leave behind a corpus (pun intended) of knowledge so you guys can sheep me after the flip
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Blazinghand
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On February 16 2015 11:28 IAmRobik wrote:
what do you wanna talk about BH?
Three big topics loom in my mind as important here.
Palmar/Rayn interaction and what we think of that
Breshke
Liancourt
You know what I think of Liancourt-- he knows too much. Given the double JK situation, he sets himself up "too perfectly" to look good coming out of it. No way he does that without pre-knowledge of the flips.
I think Palmar is town for his case on Rayn, but I don't buy into the case itself. rayn's response isn't great nor is his absenteeism though. I wouldn't trust rayn, I'd consider him lynchable.
What do you think of Breshke?
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Blazinghand
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On February 16 2015 11:30 IAmRobik wrote:
BH, if we lynch Eden today and he flips JK, should we lynch you tomorrow?
We won't, so it's not a valid question. Anyone who pushes a lynch on Eden is the same as pushing a lynch on me. We're both JKs.
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Blazinghand
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On February 16 2015 11:31 Town Puppy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 11:22 Blazinghand wrote:
TP, you'll thank me after I flip for my foresight-- whether gleefully as scum or sadly as town. You're not even close to on my level, either because you're so bad you CCed as scum when it made no sense, or you can't see the truth of this matter. Oh believe me. Call me Marshawn Lynch Im so thankful. Thankful you had the foresight to breadcrumb my role but not the foresight to breadcrumb a role that wasn't in the game. Thanks to your breadcrumb I got to lynch scum d1. I am SO THANKFUL!
Pay attention to my next post. I submit to the will of the town. I will not contest my lynch. In return, I ask that you discuss things respectfully with me until the deadline. Is that fair?
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Blazinghand
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On February 16 2015 11:32 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 11:30 Blazinghand wrote:On February 16 2015 11:28 IAmRobik wrote:
what do you wanna talk about BH? Three big topics loom in my mind as important here. Palmar/Rayn interaction and what we think of that Breshke Liancourt You know what I think of Liancourt-- he knows too much. Given the double JK situation, he sets himself up "too perfectly" to look good coming out of it. No way he does that without pre-knowledge of the flips. I think Palmar is town for his case on Rayn, but I don't buy into the case itself. rayn's response isn't great nor is his absenteeism though. I wouldn't trust rayn, I'd consider him lynchable. What do you think of Breshke? I really don't know what to think of Breshke. I don't think Palmar case on Rayn is good because I don't think his flip flop was scummy, but Rayn's absence is scummy. I was the one who proposed the Lian being scum if both of you are town, so you know my feelings on that. I really don't wanna read breshke right now though.
OK. So you know I'm a limited resource here. I have time for some filter dives or case reviews. Anyone you want me to look at?
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Blazinghand
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On February 16 2015 11:32 Town Puppy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 11:31 Blazinghand wrote:On February 16 2015 11:30 IAmRobik wrote:
BH, if we lynch Eden today and he flips JK, should we lynch you tomorrow? We won't, so it's not a valid question. Anyone who pushes a lynch on Eden is the same as pushing a lynch on me. We're both JKs. You think there are two people named Lord Percy Percy in this game...? Pretty sure that's bastard mod tier
It is. But I'm here to help and drive the discussion, so, bear with me. Pretend I'm town. Don't unvote me; just pretend i'm town and discuss things with me. What do you think of Breshke? Are there any cases you want me to review or people to talk about?
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Blazinghand
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On February 16 2015 11:33 Town Puppy wrote:
BH what is the name of your role?
Not relevant. I'm getting lynched regardless. Ask me questions about reads and cases. For the record though, the name for my role is Lord Percy Percy.
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Blazinghand
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On February 16 2015 11:34 IAmRobik wrote:
Eden sounds so fucking scummy. Every single one of his posts sounds so fucking fake. And his "oh what happened someone claimed? oh, omg bh claimed my role" puke. Also his participation this game has been whack as well. He should be mad that people are doubting him, but he doesn't seem that mad. He's still joking constantly and making sarcastic posts. I really think that he rolled mafia and wants out of the game. I'm sure that IRL circumstances are playing a part in this decision and I really think that he's scum. madofinadsoifnosdinfosidn
He's not getting lynched today, though. This town is awful: If we HAVE to lynch a JK, it should clearly be him and not me, but that's not possible. My lynch is unavoidable now, though. it's still entirely possible he's scum, but honestly I do not think we should lynch him tomorrow.
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Blazinghand
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On February 16 2015 11:36 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 11:34 Blazinghand wrote:On February 16 2015 11:32 Town Puppy wrote:On February 16 2015 11:31 Blazinghand wrote:On February 16 2015 11:30 IAmRobik wrote:
BH, if we lynch Eden today and he flips JK, should we lynch you tomorrow? We won't, so it's not a valid question. Anyone who pushes a lynch on Eden is the same as pushing a lynch on me. We're both JKs. You think there are two people named Lord Percy Percy in this game...? Pretty sure that's bastard mod tier It is. But I'm here to help and drive the discussion, so, bear with me. Pretend I'm town. Don't unvote me; just pretend i'm town and discuss things with me. What do you think of Breshke? Are there any cases you want me to review or people to talk about? Fecal. And do you really think VA is scum or not?
I don't actually have any reason to believe VA is scum. Nothing he's done is alignment-indicative. Still, 30% is not bad; it's about as good as you can possibly get for an RNG lynch.
I'll read Fecal now.
On February 16 2015 11:36 Town Puppy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 11:34 IAmRobik wrote:
Eden sounds so fucking scummy. Every single one of his posts sounds so fucking fake. And his "oh what happened someone claimed? oh, omg bh claimed my role" puke. Also his participation this game has been whack as well. He should be mad that people are doubting him, but he doesn't seem that mad. He's still joking constantly and making sarcastic posts. I really think that he rolled mafia and wants out of the game. I'm sure that IRL circumstances are playing a part in this decision and I really think that he's scum. madofinadsoifnosdinfosidn Lol you're next. You're in the background as always when you're mafia
So, what's the deal here TP? You gonna participate or not? You're making me think you're not town after all by clowning around rather than being productive.
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Blazinghand
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On February 16 2015 11:37 Town Puppy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 11:35 Blazinghand wrote:On February 16 2015 11:33 Town Puppy wrote:
BH what is the name of your role? Not relevant. I'm getting lynched regardless. Ask me questions about reads and cases. For the record though, the name for my role is Lord Percy Percy. Sigh I was vaguely hoping you misread. Oh well. I think rso and Robik are mafia. Lian is probably town. Idk why people think he's mafia.
Tell me about your Liancourt townread. I'll tell you about my scumread. Liancourt has flipflopped on us, see? Now you know YOU are the JK, so you think he's just unsure. But imagine I'm ALSO the JK, see? Now Liancourt looks REALLY good after I die, then with my dying breath ask for YOUR death. He was the one who said "neither of them make sense as fakeclaimers" and he comes out looking town. But how would someone guess that unless they KNEW we were both town? Does that make sense?
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Blazinghand
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Blazinghand
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leave questions for me so I can answer when I'm back
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Blazinghand
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I'm back
On February 16 2015 12:37 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 12:36 Town Puppy wrote:On February 16 2015 12:34 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On February 16 2015 12:23 Town Puppy wrote:On February 16 2015 12:17 Breshke wrote:
TP why do you just shutdown BH's post about there being a possible 2 JK's. If you arn't up to date with the game why is it impossible for you to think if you are town BH could also be town.
I could understand this if you had been scum reading him beforehand but you haven't in fact you seemed to be happy to go along with his RNG lynch for a while so you couldn't have thought he was that scummy.
If BH had never claimed or had claimed a different role would you be scum reading him right now?
Because (1) Two jailers is really weird from a design standpoint IMO. I've never seen or heard of it. (2) Two jailers with the same name borders on bastard game. Read the flavor in the OP. the PRs are clearly individual characters. Why would there be flavor indicating the PRs are unique persons... In a game with multiple copies of one role? This being a Blackadder game is significant in relation to that dynamic. That's all I can say. ...um. Someone help. I'm out if my element with flavor and this sounds big Lord Percy Percy (Tim McInnerny) is the name given to a pair of related characters. (wiki) Yup.
FFOOKIN A OK LET'S STOP LYNCHING ME THEN
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Blazinghand
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Yeah honestly it's unfortunate this took so long to figure out cause I get the feeling I'm fucked. I'm commending the shit out of myself for figuring out we're both JKs without knowing about the Percy Percy thing though. I'm so next-level it's unreal. I know I kinda joke about being way better than your average player, but do any of you think that from my perspective you'd figure out that TP is town? Nah. I'm so damn good it's ridiculous.
So, like I said about liancourt, still think he's a good lynch. In case the VA thing isn't clear I don't want to lynch him today.
Anyone still voting me needs a serious explanation why.
I feel like I can live again.
I feel like I have a chance.
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Blazinghand
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On February 16 2015 12:44 Town Puppy wrote:
Oh bull shit!
I was SO SURE
FUCK
You were only sure because you're not as good as I am. Damn I'm still like, super impressed with myself for figuring out you're also a JK. Everything in the game, including my OWN survival, was telling me to call you scum, but I'm just TOO TALENTED.
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