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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 15 2015 22:32 GMT
#1138
BTW, nobody who is voting me has explicitly committed to lynching Town Puppy when I flip JK. What's wrong, guys? If your'e admitting there could be 2x JKs then you need to unvote me, or if you think there's only one why not commit to lynching TP when I flip JK?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 15 2015 22:34 GMT
#1141
On February 16 2015 07:33 KelsierSC wrote:
Yeh I read the thread , I was there I think there was a lot of pressure on you.

If it isn't a super useful time to claim then I'm confused why you do it? Doesn't matter because you are mafia


I always do it as town, that's my meta, that should be good enough for your low level confusion. I see you're STILL avoiding committing to lynching TP if I flip JK. why is that, KSC? Is it because TP is your scumbuddy and you don't want to commit to it yet? Is it because you know I'll flip JK? What are you so afraid of?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 15 2015 22:36 GMT
#1142
Everyone who voted me then buggered off when I asked for commitments about lynching TP after I flip. What's the deal? What are you afraid of?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 15 2015 22:38 GMT
#1144
On February 16 2015 07:37 Breshke wrote:
if you flip JK of course ill be lynching eden it goes without saying. A VT claim from him after you flip would be fucking retarded.

Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 07:28 IAmRobik wrote:
On February 16 2015 07:25 Breshke wrote:
Why would eden go for a 1 for 1 trade there

cause he doesn't like rolling mafia


Are you making this up? I've played mafia with eden and he didn't seem too unhappy about it.



Anyone else man enough to commit explicitly?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 15 2015 22:42 GMT
#1149
On February 16 2015 07:40 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 07:34 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 16 2015 07:33 KelsierSC wrote:
Yeh I read the thread , I was there I think there was a lot of pressure on you.

If it isn't a super useful time to claim then I'm confused why you do it? Doesn't matter because you are mafia


I always do it as town, that's my meta, that should be good enough for your low level confusion. I see you're STILL avoiding committing to lynching TP if I flip JK. why is that, KSC? Is it because TP is your scumbuddy and you don't want to commit to it yet? Is it because you know I'll flip JK? What are you so afraid of?


Obviously tp gets lynched if your town. But you are not town so it is irrelevant.

On February 16 2015 07:41 LightningStrike wrote:
If you flip JK BH I will put the puppy in the pound (Lynching him).
Ritoky why not go for the good lynch today?



2 commitments. I approve. I will respond to questions and provide reads you ask for for the rest of the day

And the rest of you? Are you still too cowardly?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 15 2015 22:43 GMT
#1150
On February 16 2015 07:42 Breshke wrote:
BH you say we are bad because we don't realize this is your town game but wouldn't you push your RNG lynch no matter your alignment. What makes THIS your town game?


I don't RNG as scum.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 15 2015 22:45 GMT
#1151
On February 16 2015 07:43 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 07:42 Breshke wrote:
BH you say we are bad because we don't realize this is your town game but wouldn't you push your RNG lynch no matter your alignment. What makes THIS your town game?


I don't RNG as scum.


Actually, more accurately, I haven't RNGed as scum. I suppose if I were scum and in the right mood I might. But RNG makes people want to lynch me and it's hard to dodge the noose as scum since you're lying about it, see?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 15 2015 22:51 GMT
#1157
On February 16 2015 07:49 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 07:20 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 16 2015 07:20 liancourt wrote:
whats happening


I claimed JK with a crumb. town puppy counterclaimed without a crumb, and now people have come out of the woodworks to vote me. After I flip JK, make sure town puppy gets lynched.


any chance of 2 jks? there can be multiple millers why not 2 jks?


Dude I'm on the balance team and let met ell you: 2 milliers is not NEARLY as useful as 2 JKs lol
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 15 2015 22:59 GMT
#1164
On February 16 2015 07:56 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 07:55 liancourt wrote:
so what made BH claim in the first place?


Some people say pressure, BH says he always claims when he is blue

I mean, technically there was some pressure, but my strategy as blue is to claim when there's 3 or so votes rather than waiting for things to get out of control. This is what I do historically
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 15 2015 23:00 GMT
#1166
On February 16 2015 07:55 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 07:51 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 16 2015 07:49 liancourt wrote:
On February 16 2015 07:20 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 16 2015 07:20 liancourt wrote:
whats happening


I claimed JK with a crumb. town puppy counterclaimed without a crumb, and now people have come out of the woodworks to vote me. After I flip JK, make sure town puppy gets lynched.


any chance of 2 jks? there can be multiple millers why not 2 jks?


Dude I'm on the balance team and let met ell you: 2 milliers is not NEARLY as useful as 2 JKs lol


this kinda assumes a constructed setup vs rng setup. could just be the case where town gets x town roles. rng which roles-> 1 = x, 2=y, 3=z, 4=a, 5=b; and rolled a # multiple times.

setup wifom, the wifomyest kind of wifom


I wouldn't even ALLOW for a setup where you could have 2x JK normally even if it were unlikely RNGed. like if you roll JK, it's removed from the lsit. That being said, I see how another host MIGHT use such a setup, hence the very small chance I alot for the 2x jK theory. But Eden is scum.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 15 2015 23:01 GMT
#1168
On February 16 2015 07:59 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 04:14 Blazinghand wrote:
Here's my crumb: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23757767

R C P = Record Player = LP Player = LPP = Lord Percy Percy the Jailkeeper

note that I say "crumb" in this post


that's a very elaborate crumb there


All my crumbs are elaborate. This is probably one of my least elaborate crumbs, I was worried people would call me on that
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 16 2015 00:08 GMT
#1192
On February 16 2015 08:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
If anyone actually thinks BH is town, read this game http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/427569-golden-sun-the-broken-seal-mini-mafia

He is old partner and does literally the same exact thing he's done here. Fakes a role and makes up some absurd crumb and he almost gets away with it too here. I remember because we were lol'ing hard in scum QT.


oh come on are you kidding me? yeah, I've done this once as scum, but i also do this as town. Look at ANY of my blue games!

On November 14 2012 07:44 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm the Jailkeeper. My crumb is in the post where I talk about my large penis and how it could work as a "pad" (link)-- for pad-lock, lock, locked up, jail, jailkeeper. Admittedly, role crumbs aren't much supporting evidence, but lynching a claimed blue D1 is amazingly bad play. It's possible there's no scum roleblocker which means my power can still be of use to us.

You all have plenty of time to unvote me and vote Z-B before the day ends.


this is just HOW I crumb roles. Yes, it's also how I fake crumb roles as scum, but by jove that's because I'm a good scum player and know how to imitate my town play, not because it's a scumtell!
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 16 2015 00:11 GMT
#1194
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/434275-tl-mafia-lxiii-time-to-die?page=92#1825

On November 17 2013 04:29 Blazinghand wrote:
MYJ is a transposition of MJY. MJY is the initials of the famous bw player savior, so that night I saved Velinath

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=371260&currentpage=58#1150

beggar man is from John le Carre's Tinker Tailor soldier Spy. As the rhyme goes, tinker tailor soldier sailor and so on and the "beggar man" is the code name for a guy who did not turn out to be the mole, hence was innocent, so i'm crumbing a green check

you clearly don't even understand the level i crumb on



SEE YOU GUYS THIS IS JUST HOW I CRUMB. THIS IS HOW I CRUMB AS TOWN. If I crumb this way as scum, it's because I'm a good player as scum too, not because weird crumbs are a scumtell. VA is deliberately misleading or just bad/wrong because I did something ONCE as scum it means I NEVER do it as town? Are you kidding me? ugh.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 16 2015 00:14 GMT
#1195
Like, this is why I don't trust anyone's meta reads. Here's a lesson for you new kids about meta: you need to look at the counterexample. For example, say we say "Blazinghand is always spammy as scum". Well, guess what, that's true, but I'm also spammy as town. Or, "Blazinghand makes claims as scum" well, sure, I've fakeclaimed as scum, but that doesn't mean that every time I claim I'm scum. In fact, 90% of the time that I claim, I'm town.

ALSO, look at it this way. This is a 17player setup with 5 scum-- town obviously has a good number of PRs. Town has only 4 types of PR, and JK is like the only active saver, so town DEFINITELY has a JK. If I'm scum, why would I claim JK? If I'm scum, I KNOW there's a JK somewhere out there, and I KNOW I'm gonna get CCed. I was under some pressure, sure, but if I were really scum I'd wait until later with the claim when tehre wasn't time for a CC. Jesus christ people, think about it for a moment. Just because I claimed first doesn't make me scum; as scum I'd be anticipating a CC.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 16 2015 00:14 GMT
#1196
On February 16 2015 09:09 liancourt wrote:
I still don't understand why the real JK would CC when it means certain death for him.


THEN WHY ARE YOU VOTING ME
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 16 2015 00:15 GMT
#1198
Ugh, I hope Palmar or Rayn gets on soon so I have someone on my level to talk to. You guys will listen to them, right?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 16 2015 00:36 GMT
#1202
Thanks Breshke.

What is it with a bunch of shady people showing up, voting me, then leaving when I defend myself? What's wrong with you people?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 16 2015 00:45 GMT
#1207
On February 16 2015 09:41 IAmRobik wrote:
****I WANT TO MAKE THIS VERY CLEAR SO I'M TYPING IT IN CAPS LOCK AND SURROUNDED BY ASTERISKS*****

IF BOTH BH AND EDEN ARE TOWN, LIAN IS SCUM FOR HOW HE IS PLAYING THIS WHOLE FLIPPY FLOPPY SHIT


This is very smart and a good thought. It's one I had, but I'd have saved it for like, probably right before the flip in case other people tried to get on board.

That being said I think it's pretty unlikely town has double JK. That would be way too strong.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 16 2015 00:53 GMT
#1209
On February 16 2015 09:49 liancourt wrote:
its scum favored already with that SK anyway, why not 2 JKs lol

SK is slightly scum-favored but is also anti-swing. 2 JKs is really really strong though compared to 1 JK. If you're scum and shooting into a town of 13 players, 1 JK means that your 1 KP goes through like 94% of the tiime. If there are 2 JKs, though, your KP goes through only like 86% of the time or something, assuming they don't overlap. However, since JKs have a certain chance to also RB the KP deliverer, or the vigi if you're delivering a vigi shot as scum, they're even more dangerous.

Also from a balance perspective beyond just who wins, you want scum to feel that their KP is fairly reliable as a tool for removing townies. 2 JKs unlikely.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 16 2015 00:53 GMT
#1210
btw anti-swing means "helps the losing team" becasue eventually sk may shoot into scum if they start winning
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