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Half the Sky
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
On February 16 2015 03:15 Half the Sky wrote: BH, that's the same thing you've said before. You don't seem to be observing how this game is changing. If I had to vote this very instant, I'd vote Rayn. You don't like his response to the Palmar case, right? Ok, but are you really more than 30% sure he's scum? Town doesn't lynch scum d1 30% of the time, and I'm offering a 30% scumlynch. I think the Rayn case sounds nice in your head but if you thought about it for a whiel you'd realize, yeah, sometimes cases like that happen on townies. only RNg is pure | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On February 16 2015 03:08 IAmRobik wrote: rsoultin, what do you think of my claim that your posts make me want to take a gun to my face. 1) your post about pyp is dumb 2) your post emphasizing "said" to prplhz made me vomit. Legitimately went to the bathroom and puked my brains out because of how fucking dumb it was. Is there a point where you start saying intelligent things that at least give the appearance like you're playing the game or trying to solve or, or if you're mafia, trying to con people into thinking you're doing those two things. Because otherwise I'll just have to ignore your posts as they provide 0 fucking insight other than to piss me off Lol, I don't give a shit? Is there a point to this post at all, especially the last paragraph? xP | ||
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
On February 16 2015 03:13 Half the Sky wrote: Mostly caught up. I'm definitely willing to lynch Rayn at this point, possibly FF depending on his response to my latest post. I'm not particularly impressed with BH right now suggesting to stick to his RNG method. I can understand if he was using PoE in conjunction or some other reason to scumread VA, but you have at least a few people townreading VA, and unless I missed it, BH hasn't given any reads until just recently (Palmar and implying on Rayn), which also bugs me, I mean if he were that married to his RNG vote, he could have gotten reads off people sheeping or not sheeping his vote. I mean he really hasn't tried to do anything with it and now I think we're I think less than 12h from lynch. BH is probably scum. Like, he's not even actively trying to push his RNG method. WIll post a link to a game as an example: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461330-noir-mini-mafia-chapter-2?user=BlazingHand | ||
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
On February 16 2015 03:21 rsoultin wrote: Lol, I don't give a shit? Is there a point to this post at all, especially the last paragraph? xP yes. to fucking get you to stop posting dumb shit and start playing the fucking game | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On February 16 2015 03:27 IAmRobik wrote: yes. to fucking get you to stop posting dumb shit and start playing the fucking game Mhm. Well, that's super helpful there, Robik. Tell me how it's dumb and maybe I can change, but as it stands, I see nothing dumb in saying that a sudden read change based on a post that is demonstrably untrue (and I know Palmar less than the rest of y'all) looks scummy to me. Now, you're entitled to your own opinions, so if you really think BH is the better lynch, show me why. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On February 16 2015 03:17 Blazinghand wrote: You don't like his response to the Palmar case, right? Ok, but are you really more than 30% sure he's scum? Town doesn't lynch scum d1 30% of the time, and I'm offering a 30% scumlynch. I think the Rayn case sounds nice in your head but if you thought about it for a whiel you'd realize, yeah, sometimes cases like that happen on townies. only RNg is pure BH, I was scumreading Rayn before Palmar posted his case, but Palmar's case makes it more likely. I understand why you are arguing in favour of RNG, but do you have anything on top of this? Do you have a substantial (non-RNG) reason to be reading VA scum. What if your RNG vote had landed on a player that everyone was later scumreading for reasons unrelated to RNG? This is what I don't understand. 30% scumlynch also means that there's still a 70% chance we still lynch town. I am not seeing a way for you to narrow the pool to further increase those odds. | ||
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
On February 16 2015 03:32 rsoultin wrote: Mhm. Well, that's super helpful there, Robik. Tell me how it's dumb and maybe I can change, but as it stands, I see nothing dumb in saying that a sudden read change based on a post that is demonstrably untrue (and I know Palmar less than the rest of y'all) looks scummy to me. Now, you're entitled to your own opinions, so if you really think BH is the better lynch, show me why. 1) Prove it's untrue 2) You admit that other people know him better, so why is it SOOOO FUCKING SHOCKING TO YOU that people would change their read, when MULTIPLE PEOPLE HAVE SAID THAT YOUR WRONG | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
His early game felt quite strong he was aggressive, he went after hts because of his idea that miller claim was bad and wanted to policy lynch her , he was forthcoming with a lot his reads quite early on. I liked the interaction he had with palmar aswell when he said "i'm going to treat you as town and try and solve the game with you" that felt townie. As for him dropping his town read later on, I think that is quite a towny thing to do, if someone presents you with information that you put a lot of faith in then I don't see a problem with him changing his towny read. To me the case looks like palmar assumed rayn had a big list of really strong reasons for a town read and then dropped him for no reason, which isn't really the case. rayn admitted it was a "semi yolo read." Right now I need to look at the people who actually think this case against rayn is good and figure out which are mafia. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
On February 16 2015 03:33 Half the Sky wrote: BH, I was scumreading Rayn before Palmar posted his case, but Palmar's case makes it more likely. I understand why you are arguing in favour of RNG, but do you have anything on top of this? Do you have a substantial (non-RNG) reason to be reading VA scum. What if your RNG vote had landed on a player that everyone was later scumreading for reasons unrelated to RNG? This is what I don't understand. 30% scumlynch also means that there's still a 70% chance we still lynch town. I am not seeing a way for you to narrow the pool to further increase those odds. The fact of the matter is that VA has literally posted nothing of value this entire game. What kind of case would I wrote on the dude? I tried to fabricate some kind of fake case but the dude literally isn't posting. He's probably like scum or something and doesn't want to bother fighting an RNG lynch (the normal scum response) Here, take like 150 seconds and read his filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=VayneAuthority his only "read" is a really really vague scumread on me, and then he says this when called out on it: On February 15 2015 09:32 VayneAuthority wrote: im just opening a discussion with a particular person that was in that game on what he thinks about it There's nothing there. Vayneauthority is a shade, a wisp of mist, a shadow. He doesn't exist. You want me to write a case against him? There's no "him" to write a case against! He's nothing, a nobody. Let's MAKE him nothing. If he doesn't want to play the game, we can accommodate him. Lynch him. That's the only case I can write against someone who has opted out of this game's discourse as VA has. And honestly, it's not really better than the RNG case, because the RNG case is glorious and legendary. Read Vayne's filter, and read Rayn's filter. Which of these two has a chance of being maybe helpful? I think we both know that vayne is the better lynch here. Get those Palmar stars out of your eyes and see the truth. VA needs to die. RNG has decreed it. So has it been rolled, so let be done. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
also prp my question still remains unanswered. If my thread entry was so "terrible" why did you let it slide for so long and only come at me when other people started calling me scum. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
On February 16 2015 03:44 KelsierSC wrote: I made a case on prplhz and BH in my big post that I would urge people to go and read and give their thoughts on. Especially my case on prpl. also prp my question still remains unanswered. If my thread entry was so "terrible" why did you let it slide for so long and only come at me when other people started calling me scum. is your "case" on me that I'm pushing RNG? | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On February 16 2015 03:44 Blazinghand wrote: is your "case" on me that I'm pushing RNG? luckily we have a filter system so you can go and look at what I wrote previously | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On February 16 2015 03:44 KelsierSC wrote: I made a case on prplhz and BH in my big post that I would urge people to go and read and give their thoughts on. Especially my case on prpl. also prp my question still remains unanswered. If my thread entry was so "terrible" why did you let it slide for so long and only come at me when other people started calling me scum. i wasn't paying that much attention to you but then someone pointed it out so i went and had a look and they were absolutely right. | ||
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On February 16 2015 03:37 IAmRobik wrote: 1) Prove it's untrue 2) You admit that other people know him better, so why is it SOOOO FUCKING SHOCKING TO YOU that people would change their read, when MULTIPLE PEOPLE HAVE SAID THAT YOUR WRONG Already have ^^ You're boring me. That thread you linked for BH? Clearly not the same situation, as he was scumreading you for things other than just the RNG. Got anything better? | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
On February 16 2015 03:45 KelsierSC wrote: luckily we have a filter system so you can go and look at what I wrote previously I read it. I just want you to definitely say it here for people who are too lazy to read your post (link) which I will note came somewhat after a post attacking VA (link) | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
On February 16 2015 03:46 rsoultin wrote: Already have ^^ You're boring me. That thread you linked for BH? Clearly not the same situation, as he was scumreading you for things other than just the RNG. Got anything better? Robik is literally actually just trying to get me lynched because I banned him about a month ago. He's unbelievably salty about it. if you ask him he'll admit to it too, I'm sure. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On February 15 2015 18:01 KelsierSC wrote: [...] This is how I feel about BH at the moment. He had his RNG fun and pushed maths at us. Then again he pushed mechanics with his "lets consolidate wagons." But his solution is just to go back to his RNG lynch. I don't see any game solving or mind blowing posts despite their long length so I think BH could be scum here. [...] This point against BH I really like, though, KSC. It caught my attention when he first posted about wagon consolidation, too. | ||
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