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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 15 2015 16:35 GMT
#888
Palmar's town for the big play. The case isn't particularly amazing, but rayn's lack of a response tells me more than the case does. Palmar tends to be lazy as any alignment but I get the feeling that he really tried to be a good town today with the case. I still prefer VA but I'll wait to see what Rayn has to say before passing final judgment.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 15 2015 16:36 GMT
#889
Also Rayn isn't a "oh, don't worry he'll get shot" guy in a game that has me and Palmar. If he were on his own, sure. But he's not N1 material
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 15 2015 17:27 GMT
#915
On February 16 2015 02:05 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 01:35 Blazinghand wrote:
Palmar's town for the big play. The case isn't particularly amazing, but rayn's lack of a response tells me more than the case does. Palmar tends to be lazy as any alignment but I get the feeling that he really tried to be a good town today with the case. I still prefer VA but I'll wait to see what Rayn has to say before passing final judgment.


Does your preference for VA have anything to do with his play at all, BH?


no
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 15 2015 18:11 GMT
#955
I'm not sure I actually understand this KSC case. prplhz, breshke: what fascinates you about it?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 15 2015 18:14 GMT
#958
On February 16 2015 03:13 Half the Sky wrote:
Mostly caught up.

I'm definitely willing to lynch Rayn at this point, possibly FF depending on his response to my latest post.

I'm not particularly impressed with BH right now suggesting to stick to his RNG method. I can understand if he was using PoE in conjunction or some other reason to scumread VA, but you have at least a few people townreading VA, and unless I missed it, BH hasn't given any reads until just recently (Palmar and implying on Rayn), which also bugs me, I mean if he were that married to his RNG vote, he could have gotten reads off people sheeping or not sheeping his vote. I mean he really hasn't tried to do anything with it and now I think we're I think less than 12h from lynch.


Yeah let's see if you're singing that tune when VA flips scum. Look, objectively speakign the arguments for it now is as good as they ever were. Do you see a better wagon out there? No? yeah, I thought so.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 15 2015 18:17 GMT
#962
On February 16 2015 03:15 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 03:14 Blazinghand wrote:
Yeah let's see if you're singing that tune when VA flips scum. Look, objectively speakign the arguments for it now is as good as they ever were. Do you see a better wagon out there? No? yeah, I thought so.


BH, that's the same thing you've said before. You don't seem to be observing how this game is changing.
If I had to vote this very instant, I'd vote Rayn.


You don't like his response to the Palmar case, right? Ok, but are you really more than 30% sure he's scum? Town doesn't lynch scum d1 30% of the time, and I'm offering a 30% scumlynch. I think the Rayn case sounds nice in your head but if you thought about it for a whiel you'd realize, yeah, sometimes cases like that happen on townies. only RNg is pure
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 15 2015 18:40 GMT
#970
On February 16 2015 03:33 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 03:17 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 16 2015 03:15 Half the Sky wrote:
On February 16 2015 03:14 Blazinghand wrote:
Yeah let's see if you're singing that tune when VA flips scum. Look, objectively speakign the arguments for it now is as good as they ever were. Do you see a better wagon out there? No? yeah, I thought so.


BH, that's the same thing you've said before. You don't seem to be observing how this game is changing.
If I had to vote this very instant, I'd vote Rayn.


You don't like his response to the Palmar case, right? Ok, but are you really more than 30% sure he's scum? Town doesn't lynch scum d1 30% of the time, and I'm offering a 30% scumlynch. I think the Rayn case sounds nice in your head but if you thought about it for a whiel you'd realize, yeah, sometimes cases like that happen on townies. only RNg is pure


BH, I was scumreading Rayn before Palmar posted his case, but Palmar's case makes it more likely.

I understand why you are arguing in favour of RNG, but do you have anything on top of this? Do you have a substantial (non-RNG) reason to be reading VA scum. What if your RNG vote had landed on a player that everyone was later scumreading for reasons unrelated to RNG?

This is what I don't understand. 30% scumlynch also means that there's still a 70% chance we still lynch town. I am not seeing a way for you to narrow the pool to further increase those odds.


The fact of the matter is that VA has literally posted nothing of value this entire game. What kind of case would I wrote on the dude? I tried to fabricate some kind of fake case but the dude literally isn't posting. He's probably like scum or something and doesn't want to bother fighting an RNG lynch (the normal scum response)

Here, take like 150 seconds and read his filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=VayneAuthority

his only "read" is a really really vague scumread on me, and then he says this when called out on it:
On February 15 2015 09:32 VayneAuthority wrote:
im just opening a discussion with a particular person that was in that game on what he thinks about it


There's nothing there. Vayneauthority is a shade, a wisp of mist, a shadow. He doesn't exist. You want me to write a case against him? There's no "him" to write a case against! He's nothing, a nobody. Let's MAKE him nothing. If he doesn't want to play the game, we can accommodate him. Lynch him.

That's the only case I can write against someone who has opted out of this game's discourse as VA has.

And honestly, it's not really better than the RNG case, because the RNG case is glorious and legendary.

Read Vayne's filter, and read Rayn's filter. Which of these two has a chance of being maybe helpful? I think we both know that vayne is the better lynch here. Get those Palmar stars out of your eyes and see the truth. VA needs to die.

RNG has decreed it. So has it been rolled, so let be done.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 15 2015 18:44 GMT
#973
On February 16 2015 03:44 KelsierSC wrote:
I made a case on prplhz and BH in my big post that I would urge people to go and read and give their thoughts on. Especially my case on prpl.

also prp my question still remains unanswered. If my thread entry was so "terrible" why did you let it slide for so long and only come at me when other people started calling me scum.



is your "case" on me that I'm pushing RNG?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 15 2015 18:46 GMT
#978
On February 16 2015 03:45 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 03:44 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 16 2015 03:44 KelsierSC wrote:
I made a case on prplhz and BH in my big post that I would urge people to go and read and give their thoughts on. Especially my case on prpl.

also prp my question still remains unanswered. If my thread entry was so "terrible" why did you let it slide for so long and only come at me when other people started calling me scum.



is your "case" on me that I'm pushing RNG?


luckily we have a filter system so you can go and look at what I wrote previously


I read it. I just want you to definitely say it here for people who are too lazy to read your post (link) which I will note came somewhat after a post attacking VA (link)
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 15 2015 18:47 GMT
#979
On February 16 2015 03:46 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 03:37 IAmRobik wrote:
On February 16 2015 03:32 rsoultin wrote:
On February 16 2015 03:27 IAmRobik wrote:
On February 16 2015 03:21 rsoultin wrote:
On February 16 2015 03:08 IAmRobik wrote:
rsoultin, what do you think of my claim that your posts make me want to take a gun to my face.

1) your post about pyp is dumb
2) your post emphasizing "said" to prplhz made me vomit. Legitimately went to the bathroom and puked my brains out because of how fucking dumb it was.

Is there a point where you start saying intelligent things that at least give the appearance like you're playing the game or trying to solve or, or if you're mafia, trying to con people into thinking you're doing those two things. Because otherwise I'll just have to ignore your posts as they provide 0 fucking insight other than to piss me off


Lol, I don't give a shit? Is there a point to this post at all, especially the last paragraph? xP

yes. to fucking get you to stop posting dumb shit and start playing the fucking game


Mhm. Well, that's super helpful there, Robik. Tell me how it's dumb and maybe I can change, but as it stands, I see nothing dumb in saying that a sudden read change based on a post that is demonstrably untrue (and I know Palmar less than the rest of y'all) looks scummy to me.

Now, you're entitled to your own opinions, so if you really think BH is the better lynch, show me why.

1) Prove it's untrue
2) You admit that other people know him better, so why is it SOOOO FUCKING SHOCKING TO YOU that people would change their read, when MULTIPLE PEOPLE HAVE SAID THAT YOUR WRONG


Already have ^^ You're boring me.

That thread you linked for BH? Clearly not the same situation, as he was scumreading you for things other than just the RNG. Got anything better?


Robik is literally actually just trying to get me lynched because I banned him about a month ago. He's unbelievably salty about it. if you ask him he'll admit to it too, I'm sure.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 15 2015 18:55 GMT
#982
On February 16 2015 03:51 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 18:01 KelsierSC wrote:
[...]
On February 15 2015 09:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
rayn when you read this tell me how similar you find BH to his persona as Old Partner in golden sun. when I read his posts I feel like he is talking to other people and having a laugh. Reminds me of that game with how forced he is pushing this agenda with these long awful posts


This is how I feel about BH at the moment. He had his RNG fun and pushed maths at us. Then again he pushed mechanics with his "lets consolidate wagons." But his solution is just to go back to his RNG lynch. I don't see any game solving or mind blowing posts despite their long length so I think BH could be scum here.

[...]


This point against BH I really like, though, KSC. It caught my attention when he first posted about wagon consolidation, too.


Of course the solution is RNG lynch, it's the best lynch. Didn't you guys read anything ._.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 15 2015 18:55 GMT
#984
On February 16 2015 03:55 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 03:46 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 16 2015 03:45 KelsierSC wrote:
On February 16 2015 03:44 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 16 2015 03:44 KelsierSC wrote:
I made a case on prplhz and BH in my big post that I would urge people to go and read and give their thoughts on. Especially my case on prpl.

also prp my question still remains unanswered. If my thread entry was so "terrible" why did you let it slide for so long and only come at me when other people started calling me scum.



is your "case" on me that I'm pushing RNG?


luckily we have a filter system so you can go and look at what I wrote previously


I read it. I just want you to definitely say it here for people who are too lazy to read your post (link) which I will note came somewhat after a post attacking VA (link)


The case is you have these long forced posts where you hide behind mechanics. You try and traffic cop this game with posts like "hey guys we need to consolidate" but at no point have you put any effort in to figuring out the game.

you have also now tried to discredit my case on you from saying "oh you mad a case on meafter a case on VA" the case about VA was my first opening read based on his reaction, then basically a day later I made a case on you that is more developed after I read the game thoroughly.

You have now also tried to discredit Robik with his "oh he is salty that I banned him" which seems kind of pathetic from you.



dude ask Robik he's literally salty cause i banned him, he'll tell you
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 15 2015 18:57 GMT
#986
On February 16 2015 03:56 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 03:47 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 16 2015 03:46 rsoultin wrote:
On February 16 2015 03:37 IAmRobik wrote:
On February 16 2015 03:32 rsoultin wrote:
On February 16 2015 03:27 IAmRobik wrote:
On February 16 2015 03:21 rsoultin wrote:
On February 16 2015 03:08 IAmRobik wrote:
rsoultin, what do you think of my claim that your posts make me want to take a gun to my face.

1) your post about pyp is dumb
2) your post emphasizing "said" to prplhz made me vomit. Legitimately went to the bathroom and puked my brains out because of how fucking dumb it was.

Is there a point where you start saying intelligent things that at least give the appearance like you're playing the game or trying to solve or, or if you're mafia, trying to con people into thinking you're doing those two things. Because otherwise I'll just have to ignore your posts as they provide 0 fucking insight other than to piss me off


Lol, I don't give a shit? Is there a point to this post at all, especially the last paragraph? xP

yes. to fucking get you to stop posting dumb shit and start playing the fucking game


Mhm. Well, that's super helpful there, Robik. Tell me how it's dumb and maybe I can change, but as it stands, I see nothing dumb in saying that a sudden read change based on a post that is demonstrably untrue (and I know Palmar less than the rest of y'all) looks scummy to me.

Now, you're entitled to your own opinions, so if you really think BH is the better lynch, show me why.

1) Prove it's untrue
2) You admit that other people know him better, so why is it SOOOO FUCKING SHOCKING TO YOU that people would change their read, when MULTIPLE PEOPLE HAVE SAID THAT YOUR WRONG


Already have ^^ You're boring me.

That thread you linked for BH? Clearly not the same situation, as he was scumreading you for things other than just the RNG. Got anything better?


Robik is literally actually just trying to get me lynched because I banned him about a month ago. He's unbelievably salty about it. if you ask him he'll admit to it too, I'm sure.

you rolled mafia this game. not my fault


then vote me bro. what you scared?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 15 2015 18:58 GMT
#991
On February 16 2015 03:58 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 03:40 Blazinghand wrote:
The fact of the matter is that VA has literally posted nothing of value this entire game. What kind of case would I wrote on the dude? I tried to fabricate some kind of fake case but the dude literally isn't posting. He's probably like scum or something and doesn't want to bother fighting an RNG lynch (the normal scum response)

[...]

Read Vayne's filter, and read Rayn's filter. Which of these two has a chance of being maybe helpful? I think we both know that vayne is the better lynch here. Get those Palmar stars out of your eyes and see the truth. VA needs to die.

RNG has decreed it. So has it been rolled, so let be done.


I see what you're getting at here, but what are your thoughts on the meta read on him? Both of you are relative vets, somewhere along the way you had have to have come across playing him.

D1, he's pretty useless in general. I pushed him for the exact same reasons in NYE, got him lynched, he flipped town. He was also pretty useless in Void until I flipped scum D2. Only when something happens, it appears he'll do something as town. I mean if you want to policy lynch him, that's fine. But this goes back to my point that you aren't going further than RNG here.


I disagree with the meta read because it disagrees with my conclusion
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 15 2015 18:59 GMT
#992
On February 16 2015 03:58 IAmRobik wrote:
I voted you like 40 pages back

##vote: blazinghand


took you long enough
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 15 2015 19:05 GMT
#994
So, just to be clear, nobody here actually thinks Vayne is useful. All you think is that he has a meta of not playing during D1 so he should be allowed to live. Well, there's no argument I can make against that. Follow the RNG for glory, or be left behind in the darkness.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 15 2015 19:08 GMT
#1000
On February 16 2015 04:07 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 03:58 Blazinghand wrote:
I disagree with the meta read because it disagrees with my conclusion


And again, you are telling me jack all about VA besides RNG or even why the meta is wrong.

I'm going to add BH to my lovely list of lynchables.


The meta isn't wrong, it just has the wrong conclusion. You want me to lie and tell you the meta is wrong and make up a reason? I could, but that's not possible. Also, how can I tell you about VA when he's like, not even playing this game? Read his filter. Seriously.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 15 2015 19:09 GMT
#1001
OY STOP LYNCHING ME NOOBS
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 15 2015 19:10 GMT
#1003
Ok don't lynch me, I'm the jailkeeper
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
February 15 2015 19:11 GMT
#1004
yeah what now
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