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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 19 2015 23:33 GMT
#3152
Like, people are legit mad at me for saying things that are correct, things like:

- noting that rayn can pretend to be angry as town
- noting that VA has been the best lynch every day and pushing him
---- remember, these are people who aGREE WITH ME THAT VA IS DOING NOTHING
- noting that superbia is not actually mod-confirmed, but is likely town
- noting that I am not actually mod-confirmed, but am fairly close to it

like why would you scumread me for any of this? I've even done other things like townread Alakaslam who is impossible to read anyways
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 20 2015 00:09 GMT
#3157
On February 20 2015 08:59 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 07:13 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:08 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:53 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:36 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:28 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:18 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:15 LightningStrike wrote:
[quote]
The non confirmed players are either Mafia or SK and I finding you as either the SK or Mafia by Process of Elimation from all my reads and the confirmed towns were claimed roles or mod confirmed (BH) and then I decided to go meta reading players and elimated but the 5 in the non confirmed pile so that means that you are either A. Mafia or B. Serial Killer.


I mean, explain how I have "mafia traits" from my meta in depth plz. examples necessary.

Ya when you are Mafia you tend to super tunnel on someone for Example me in Carol of the Bells and Dr.H in Imperial. This game you been tunneled on HTS and now Me and this is the type of trait I associate with you when you are Mafia. Although i remember you Mass Murderer Slip was hilarious in Carol


I mean you're right I tunnel as both alignments. you obviously don't care very much about this read since you weren't willing to actually go find examples like asked.

your read is not only bad, but made up.

I am not tryharding enough to be scum this game, and there has been 0 conviction in any of my reads until this one. so I don't know where you have this "tunnel" shit coming from. in fact last phase I gave a complicated null read on HtS.

Fine show me your town games and I will take a look at them.


so wait, you're meta reading me as mafia when you have no idea about my town play and I am not emulating my mafia play?

WHAT?

Only saw your Mafia games but never your town games and the database isn't up ti date yet.


I mean, regardless of your alignment. If you don't have an understanding of someone's play as both alignments, why in the hell would you ever try to meta read them?

Beyond that, it's your only stated reason for scum reading me and you just openly invalidated it.

I only invalidated it through POE but that was main source you getting being Antitown (SK or Mafia) and also HTS told me pretty much that you started to tunnel her but you didn't seen as agressive you were towards Me or Dr.H in the 2 previous games you were Mafia so you might as well show me your knife.


still kinda interested in this. she told you this where?

cuz I just went through her filter and the only thing that even comes close to her saying what you said was directed at palmar. in fact she has rarely directly spoken to you at all in the thread. so where did she tell you?

cuz if it was a private thing, it was either against the rules or in a qt.


if this actually pans out I nominate this for biggest play 2015
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 20 2015 00:10 GMT
#3158
if that pans out I'll have to admit I'm not even on ritoky's level
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 20 2015 00:26 GMT
#3161
so we're trying to figure out when HTS mentions ritoky to LS, right?

here are aall mentions of ritoky by HTS:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23757501 laugh
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23757555 query
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23757569 about BH
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23757590 asks robik about ritoky read
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23757604 ask ritoky about read
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23757610 ritoky null read
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23757684 asks ritoky about read
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23757770 considers ritoky's advice
implies ritoky is town http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23757826
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23757836 says ritoky has point re FF
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23757848 same
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23757863 same
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23759937 same
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23760192 mention suggestion of waiting
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23767701 "i have no idea why ritoky si scumreading me"
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23771535 scumreads ritoky
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23771576 talks about ritoky passivity as town vs scum, and his engagmeent with scumreads, with lightningstrike, sepcifically asking about meta
calls out ritoky http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23771590
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23771683 same
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23772322 scumreads ritoky
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23773827 same
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23773869 case on ritoky for "ritoky's bs case" basically
defense vs ritoky http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23773990
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23773994 notes ritoky scumread
mentions ritoky as scummy http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23774100
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23775355 same
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23777101 same
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23778295 passing
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23780377 scumread on ritoky
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23780629 same
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23780643 passing
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23780646 scumread on ritoky
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23780659 same
same http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23781853 calls for bullet on ritoky


NO MENTION OF CONVO WITH LS

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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 20 2015 00:30 GMT
#3162
Truncated quote:

On February 20 2015 08:59 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 07:13 LightningStrike wrote:
I only invalidated it through POE but that was main source you getting being Antitown (SK or Mafia) and also HTS told me pretty much that you started to tunnel her but you didn't seen as agressive you were towards Me or Dr.H in the 2 previous games you were Mafia so you might as well show me your knife.


still kinda interested in this. she told you this where?

cuz I just went through her filter and the only thing that even comes close to her saying what you said was directed at palmar. in fact she has rarely directly spoken to you at all in the thread. so where did she tell you?

cuz if it was a private thing, it was either against the rules or in a qt.



So basically, there's only one time in the ENTIRE thread where HtS replies to lightningstrike about ritoky, and that's this:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23771576 talks about ritoky passivity as town vs scum, and his engagmeent with scumreads, with lightningstrike, sepcifically asking about meta

and it does not line up because there's no mention DrH or the fact that ritoky is less aggressive. She's asking questions:

On February 17 2015 06:11 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2015 06:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I think ritoky is town this game since he not fighting anyone at all like he did in his two games when I saw him play as Mafia.


You're saying he's more passive as town than scum? He's talking a lot about his scumreads, but I don't know if he's not engaging his scumreads because he's unable to.

Last I recall his four scumreads were Lian, Breshke, myself and Rayn and none of us are in the US.



I think this is a fine reason to lynch both LS and HtS
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 20 2015 00:31 GMT
#3164
On February 20 2015 09:31 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 08:28 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 20 2015 08:26 Half the Sky wrote:
On February 20 2015 08:23 Blazinghand wrote:
good point rayn was the paragon of reason and usefulness this game oh no wait the opposite of that


I'll be blunt, you aren't categorically much better.


Do you disagree with my case on VA? Ah, there we go, looks like I'm right, so I must be someone reasonable. Also, unlike rayn, I haven't been mislynched, so I'm already more useful than him.

YES. YOUR CASE ON VA SUCKS MASSIVE DICK! YOU HAPPY? I SAID IT. RAYN SAID IT. ALL YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT IS TRYING TO LYNCH A LOLOBV TOWN. YOU'RE PLAYING LIKE SHIT OR YOU'RE MAFIA. IT'S REALLY REALLY ANNOYING


oi read my posts right above this, ritoky is right
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 20 2015 00:33 GMT
#3165
Yes that's right in just 20 minutes I skimmed a 13 page filter for all mentnions of LS or Ritoky and interactions between them and made a collated post, I'm just that baller.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 20 2015 00:43 GMT
#3168
@FF Yeah.

I gotta admit, I am not on ritoky's level. Damn ritoky good catch. You have my bow. It's also worth noting that if, by some insane stretch, you are mafia (or actually plausibly, SK), you are still above my level because a play like this as scum would be brilliant.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 20 2015 00:44 GMT
#3169
On February 20 2015 09:42 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2015 06:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I think ritoky is town this game since he not fighting anyone at all like he did in his two games when I saw him play as Mafia.


What's even worse is here is LS town reading me early in the game for my meta of not tunneling and fighting, which he has now flipped to scum read me for what reason exactly?

Thank you for this find BH, I only read the HtS portion of this interaction.


Yeah I think we can pretty reasonably say that LS and HtS need to be lynched. This is very good news.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 20 2015 00:51 GMT
#3171
On February 20 2015 09:48 VayneAuthority wrote:
there is nothing that demonstrates HTS needs to be lynched, LS is the only one that lied. He could say he said it to anybody.


You think LS intentionally pretended to slip a mafia QT interaction with HtS, a townie, as scum? This is definitely possible, but LS isn't on my level where he'd think of that kind of thing. This is much more likely a genuine "I forgot I was talking with HtS about this in the scum QT" thing. Nice try covering for one of your two scumbuddies though
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 20 2015 01:08 GMT
#3179
Why is IAmRobik mad? >.>
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 20 2015 01:12 GMT
#3182
On February 20 2015 10:11 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 10:05 IAmRobik wrote:
On February 20 2015 09:44 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 20 2015 09:42 ritoky wrote:
On February 17 2015 06:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I think ritoky is town this game since he not fighting anyone at all like he did in his two games when I saw him play as Mafia.


What's even worse is here is LS town reading me early in the game for my meta of not tunneling and fighting, which he has now flipped to scum read me for what reason exactly?

Thank you for this find BH, I only read the HtS portion of this interaction.


Yeah I think we can pretty reasonably say that LS and HtS need to be lynched. This is very good news.

WHY THE FUCK WOULD HTS NEED TO BE LYNCHED?!?!?


because the implication from the quote is that 1 of 3 things happened. either

a) they had this interaction in a scum qt and he slipped -> both are scum
b) they had this interaction in private messaging somehow -> modkill for rules
c) LS is lying about the interaction entirely and made it up -> LS scum, HtS = ?

in all 3 scenarios LS dies, figure the 2nd part out after.


Yeah no matter what LS is scum or is going to die. I actually think scenario A is significantly more likely than scenario C. Ritoky, players like you and I might be capable of C) but LS imo is not
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 20 2015 01:38 GMT
#3196
On February 20 2015 10:27 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 10:26 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 10:24 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 10:21 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 10:18 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 10:16 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 08:59 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:13 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:08 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:06 LightningStrike wrote:
[quote]
Only saw your Mafia games but never your town games and the database isn't up ti date yet.


I mean, regardless of your alignment. If you don't have an understanding of someone's play as both alignments, why in the hell would you ever try to meta read them?

Beyond that, it's your only stated reason for scum reading me and you just openly invalidated it.

I only invalidated it through POE but that was main source you getting being Antitown (SK or Mafia) and also HTS told me pretty much that you started to tunnel her but you didn't seen as agressive you were towards Me or Dr.H in the 2 previous games you were Mafia so you might as well show me your knife.


still kinda interested in this. she told you this where?

cuz I just went through her filter and the only thing that even comes close to her saying what you said was directed at palmar. in fact she has rarely directly spoken to you at all in the thread. so where did she tell you?

cuz if it was a private thing, it was either against the rules or in a qt.

It's in her filter but I will dig it up now since you asking for this. I;m back guys I forgot to say that I was going out to dinner with my Mom so catching up still.

Found it and it was me talking to HTS and which HTS responded to me that's why it might not be in my filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?page=16#309


what in the holy fuck? this post has 0 to do with anything and responds to FF? you don't even post on this page, the page before it or the page after it.

Crap wrong post. Here it is: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?page=89#1762


On February 20 2015 09:30 Blazinghand wrote:
Truncated quote:

On February 20 2015 08:59 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:13 LightningStrike wrote:
I only invalidated it through POE but that was main source you getting being Antitown (SK or Mafia) and also HTS told me pretty much that you started to tunnel her but you didn't seen as agressive you were towards Me or Dr.H in the 2 previous games you were Mafia so you might as well show me your knife.


still kinda interested in this. she told you this where?

cuz I just went through her filter and the only thing that even comes close to her saying what you said was directed at palmar. in fact she has rarely directly spoken to you at all in the thread. so where did she tell you?

cuz if it was a private thing, it was either against the rules or in a qt.



So basically, there's only one time in the ENTIRE thread where HtS replies to lightningstrike about ritoky, and that's this:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23771576 talks about ritoky passivity as town vs scum, and his engagmeent with scumreads, with lightningstrike, sepcifically asking about meta

and it does not line up because there's no mention DrH or the fact that ritoky is less aggressive. She's asking questions:

On February 17 2015 06:11 Half the Sky wrote:
On February 17 2015 06:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I think ritoky is town this game since he not fighting anyone at all like he did in his two games when I saw him play as Mafia.


You're saying he's more passive as town than scum? He's talking a lot about his scumreads, but I don't know if he's not engaging his scumreads because he's unable to.

Last I recall his four scumreads were Lian, Breshke, myself and Rayn and none of us are in the US.



I think this is a fine reason to lynch both LS and HtS


On February 20 2015 09:42 ritoky wrote:
On February 17 2015 06:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I think ritoky is town this game since he not fighting anyone at all like he did in his two games when I saw him play as Mafia.


What's even worse is here is LS town reading me early in the game for my meta of not tunneling and fighting, which he has now flipped to scum read me for what reason exactly?

Thank you for this find BH, I only read the HtS portion of this interaction.

I ninja'd you the post above yous


A valiant effort, LS, but in the time it took for you to commiserate in your Scum QT with your Scumbuddies about how to respond to this I found every mention of you or ritoky by HtS all game and documented it. There's no argument you can give. Nice try. Better luck next time you roll scum.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 20 2015 01:39 GMT
#3197
The fact of the matter is the scumteam never had a chance with players like me and ritoky in this game, get on my level scum
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 20 2015 01:47 GMT
#3200
On February 20 2015 10:46 rsoultin wrote:
lol...wow, okay

so the argument here is legitimately "hts and ls like to hang out in their scum qt and reminisce about the good old days when ritoky was scum and liked to tunnel the shit out of people"

yeah, i'd say y'all have the game figured out. A+


another player not on me and ritoky's level
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 20 2015 01:49 GMT
#3203
On February 20 2015 10:47 rsoultin wrote:
I see LS' post as missing a comma xP and y'all as either opportunistic scum or bumbling idiots


he's referencing a convo that didn't happen! are you kidding me???? omg
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 20 2015 01:57 GMT
#3210
On February 20 2015 10:54 Fecalfeast wrote:
Wait so you're speaking for LS now? Why didn't he tell us his post was formatted incorrectly?


yeah that's not what LS said lol
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 20 2015 01:58 GMT
#3211
On February 20 2015 10:56 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 10:49 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 20 2015 10:47 rsoultin wrote:
I see LS' post as missing a comma xP and y'all as either opportunistic scum or bumbling idiots


he's referencing a convo that didn't happen! are you kidding me???? omg


Is he really? I went through your posts. She was complaining about being scumread by ritoky for what she perceived to be bad reasons. Didn't use the word tunnel...but come on lol, LS did when he mentioned the Carol game later on.

Are you really trying to tell me that the only possible interpretation of that post is that this was a super secret scum QT convo? xP


the only good interpretation is mine
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 20 2015 02:07 GMT
#3220
money posts are here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?page=159
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
February 20 2015 08:24 GMT
#3355
I was RBed

##vote LightningStrike
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