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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
February 17 2015 21:15 GMT
#2261
While I was playing Pokemon TCG online ofc Robik and FF decided to vote me -.- Also that was my 2nd game in TL Mafia so ofc I had think a shit ton because my teammates was a lurker and a afk Slam who got replaced............. I tried to carry them because I was being townread for meta reasons by others on Day 1. Day 2 and Day 3 I slipped pretty damn bad tbh with you.
FF you just played with me when I was ton in Slytherin am I not acting like I did in that game?
For people wanting my filter from that game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477307-slytherin-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 17 2015 21:16 GMT
#2262
On February 18 2015 06:14 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2015 06:13 ritoky wrote:
On February 18 2015 06:12 Superbia wrote:
On February 18 2015 06:11 ritoky wrote:
On February 17 2015 23:36 Half the Sky wrote:
On February 17 2015 14:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay my last post before going to bed: The SK prob was scum reading KSC and thought he was Mafia so he killed him hoping to kill Mafia but instead KSC was town. Going to bed for reals now.


WIFOM. Most people here are lumping the SK and scum together in one batch. What you said is possible, but unlikely as there are way more town than scum.

Under the assumption that scum took out Eden, my theory FWIW, BH said before that SK is anti-swing, and Kelsier was a mislynch opportunity for scum, given he was being scumread. He kills a townie AND hurts scum at the same time by cutting short an ML candidate.

Kelsier could also have been targetted because he was on the right track as well. Some of his reads were matching my own, on the ones that weren't, could potentially be worth further investigation.

Any of the above are possible plus other things I might not have considered.


it's posts like this. you call someone wifoming, then you proceed to wifom, then justify your reads with wifom of a dead person, then display TMI but qualify it with "under the assumption".


What's TMI in her post?


to me it looks like she know who killed who.


There were multiple theories coming from multiple people, including myself. Why are you pinging HtS?


here's me doing it to LS

On February 17 2015 16:13 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2015 14:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay my last post before going to bed: The SK prob was scum reading KSC and thought he was Mafia so he killed him hoping to kill Mafia but instead KSC was town. Going to bed for reals now.


[image loading]


I do it when I notice it.

I noticed that one, because it had a lot of certainty in it, i.e. grounded in real knowledge not speculation.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 17 2015 21:18 GMT
#2263
On February 18 2015 06:15 LightningStrike wrote:
While I was playing Pokemon TCG online ofc Robik and FF decided to vote me -.- Also that was my 2nd game in TL Mafia so ofc I had think a shit ton because my teammates was a lurker and a afk Slam who got replaced............. I tried to carry them because I was being townread for meta reasons by others on Day 1. Day 2 and Day 3 I slipped pretty damn bad tbh with you.
FF you just played with me when I was ton in Slytherin am I not acting like I did in that game?
For people wanting my filter from that game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477307-slytherin-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike

I thought I was scum why are you trying to get me to townread you?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 17 2015 21:18 GMT
#2264
You also gave a reason for why your scum play would be better, and linked me to a specific game as if you're trying to emulate that game specifically to seem town.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
February 17 2015 21:20 GMT
#2265
On February 18 2015 06:18 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2015 06:15 LightningStrike wrote:
While I was playing Pokemon TCG online ofc Robik and FF decided to vote me -.- Also that was my 2nd game in TL Mafia so ofc I had think a shit ton because my teammates was a lurker and a afk Slam who got replaced............. I tried to carry them because I was being townread for meta reasons by others on Day 1. Day 2 and Day 3 I slipped pretty damn bad tbh with you.
FF you just played with me when I was ton in Slytherin am I not acting like I did in that game?
For people wanting my filter from that game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477307-slytherin-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike

I thought I was scum why are you trying to get me to townread you?

I like her case on you but also it mainly because you forgot how I played in Slytherin that just finished like 2 days ago................
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
February 17 2015 21:21 GMT
#2266
I also send my filter of previous games as town wtf......... Ask Palmar, ask rsoultin, ask HTS, also ask Slam.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 17 2015 21:22 GMT
#2267
FF what are your thoughts on:
- Ritoky
- RSO
- Slam
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 17 2015 21:22 GMT
#2268
Just color code them, I don't need a post with more than 4 lines of text.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 17 2015 21:24 GMT
#2269
If this takes more than 5 minutes I'm lynching you. :D
Minimal effort.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 17 2015 21:27 GMT
#2270
dude im making a post about damdred ok fine

ritoky
rso
slam
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 17 2015 21:27 GMT
#2271
Just in time :D
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 17 2015 21:27 GMT
#2272
Looking forward to that post.
Minimal effort.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 17 2015 21:28 GMT
#2273
I am as well will be fun to read.

Ritoky how did I arrive at the wrong conclusion and what am I not reading right if I'm wrong?
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 17 2015 21:29 GMT
#2274
On February 18 2015 06:16 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2015 06:14 Superbia wrote:
On February 18 2015 06:13 ritoky wrote:
On February 18 2015 06:12 Superbia wrote:
On February 18 2015 06:11 ritoky wrote:
On February 17 2015 23:36 Half the Sky wrote:
On February 17 2015 14:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay my last post before going to bed: The SK prob was scum reading KSC and thought he was Mafia so he killed him hoping to kill Mafia but instead KSC was town. Going to bed for reals now.


WIFOM. Most people here are lumping the SK and scum together in one batch. What you said is possible, but unlikely as there are way more town than scum.

Under the assumption that scum took out Eden, my theory FWIW, BH said before that SK is anti-swing, and Kelsier was a mislynch opportunity for scum, given he was being scumread. He kills a townie AND hurts scum at the same time by cutting short an ML candidate.

Kelsier could also have been targetted because he was on the right track as well. Some of his reads were matching my own, on the ones that weren't, could potentially be worth further investigation.

Any of the above are possible plus other things I might not have considered.


it's posts like this. you call someone wifoming, then you proceed to wifom, then justify your reads with wifom of a dead person, then display TMI but qualify it with "under the assumption".


What's the point, though?
What's TMI in her post?


to me it looks like she know who killed who.


There were multiple theories coming from multiple people, including myself. Why are you pinging HtS?


here's me doing it to LS

Show nested quote +
On February 17 2015 16:13 ritoky wrote:
On February 17 2015 14:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay my last post before going to bed: The SK prob was scum reading KSC and thought he was Mafia so he killed him hoping to kill Mafia but instead KSC was town. Going to bed for reals now.


[image loading]


I do it when I notice it.

I noticed that one, because it had a lot of certainty in it, i.e. grounded in real knowledge not speculation.

Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 17 2015 21:30 GMT
#2275
On February 18 2015 06:29 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2015 06:16 ritoky wrote:
On February 18 2015 06:14 Superbia wrote:
On February 18 2015 06:13 ritoky wrote:
On February 18 2015 06:12 Superbia wrote:
On February 18 2015 06:11 ritoky wrote:
On February 17 2015 23:36 Half the Sky wrote:
On February 17 2015 14:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay my last post before going to bed: The SK prob was scum reading KSC and thought he was Mafia so he killed him hoping to kill Mafia but instead KSC was town. Going to bed for reals now.


WIFOM. Most people here are lumping the SK and scum together in one batch. What you said is possible, but unlikely as there are way more town than scum.

Under the assumption that scum took out Eden, my theory FWIW, BH said before that SK is anti-swing, and Kelsier was a mislynch opportunity for scum, given he was being scumread. He kills a townie AND hurts scum at the same time by cutting short an ML candidate.

Kelsier could also have been targetted because he was on the right track as well. Some of his reads were matching my own, on the ones that weren't, could potentially be worth further investigation.

Any of the above are possible plus other things I might not have considered.


it's posts like this. you call someone wifoming, then you proceed to wifom, then justify your reads with wifom of a dead person, then display TMI but qualify it with "under the assumption".



What's TMI in her post?


to me it looks like she know who killed who.


There were multiple theories coming from multiple people, including myself. Why are you pinging HtS?


here's me doing it to LS

On February 17 2015 16:13 ritoky wrote:
On February 17 2015 14:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay my last post before going to bed: The SK prob was scum reading KSC and thought he was Mafia so he killed him hoping to kill Mafia but instead KSC was town. Going to bed for reals now.


[image loading]


I do it when I notice it.

I noticed that one, because it had a lot of certainty in it, i.e. grounded in real knowledge not speculation.



What's the point, though?

EBWOP
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 17 2015 21:30 GMT
#2276
Quoting myself like an asshole.
Minimal effort.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 17 2015 21:32 GMT
#2277
On February 17 2015 13:48 Damdred wrote:
Well baby girl I'm here and I'm town so lets end this omgus on my slot.

Obviously I'm a hit behind but I'm going to start out reading some choice filters and sleep. I won't be all the way caught up till tommoeow obviously

Step one, diffuse tension on slot.


On February 17 2015 13:57 Damdred wrote:
I'm disappointed firstly that we didn't push through VA then! 2 jks are interesting though.

Rsoultin why is it so important I don't find you in the least bit scummy. I've not even looked at you and have a gut read that rit is scum so far. However your post is strange

doesn't mention VA ever again, even after saying

On February 17 2015 14:10 Damdred wrote:
I'm laying down. But I'll come back with my thoughts on who I've read so far

and following up the post with
On February 18 2015 03:34 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2015 03:28 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Damdred who did you filter dive and what your read on them?


I started with Ritoky and have reread him this morning with a clearer head. I have found that his filter is missing some of the insightful things that he would normally make however its not quite as angry and abrasive as his mafia game where he clings to things instead of naturally flowing with the thread and trying to make an impact. He is still missing a good portion of his impact however and a lot of his filter is missing some things I would attribute to him, I really think hes not scum hunting to the best of his ability and is letting the game go on without him, I see him more as an sk than a mafia though currently.


I think Rsoultin is scum though I read him this morning. He has some interesting things in his filter but his first or second post to me last night somewhat gave me pause and caused me to look at this game and his other scum games and they look a bit different but he still lacks some of the good follow up and scum hunting I am used to seeing from him it feels just off somehow. I think he has a good shot to be scum.

Also read, HTS, BH, LS and I think they look pretty towny. Just finished Palmar and I have no issues with him. Still a bit behind its time consuming checking context on things in filters sometimes

yet after he says VA should have been pushed he didn't even mention him?



On February 18 2015 02:52 Damdred wrote:
HTS you have my sword, the case is pretty good and I've checked the context and it looks pretty good.

Good job

yes yes he did say he likes HtS' case but when I come back all I get is a lame post that hardly made me think about answering it:
On February 18 2015 05:31 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2015 05:28 Fecalfeast wrote:
Oh I'm not planning to defend myself. My posts are what I posted I'm not going to go around saying 'oh I meant..' or 'actually this should say...' I don't care, I just want to know WHY people are voting me is all.

Day 1 I was scumreading lian before he did the stupid cop claim stuff. I was willing to vote LS (my other scumread) and rsoultin (sheep on eden)
Day 2 is today and I have not voted yet

I will not bow to you, tyrant



what did I tell you last game ff? Any deviance and you would die

Your post reads strange to me. Why won't you just explain the process you used to get from point one to point 2. Is Hts town or scum pushing you

Come on damdred, I know I literally just said I dislike meta reads but you are not this easy on people as town.



I'm not saying damdred is definite scum here since he just replaced in and reading this clusterfun of a thread would be difficult but so far he has given 4 townreads without explanation and ignored VA after implying he is scummy.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 17 2015 21:33 GMT
#2278
On February 18 2015 06:28 Damdred wrote:
I am as well will be fun to read.

Ritoky how did I arrive at the wrong conclusion and what am I not reading right if I'm wrong?

Hi damdred! What is your read on VA?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 17 2015 21:36 GMT
#2279
Good evening everyone!

I see Fecalfeast is trying hard to not be tonight's lynch.

Guess what?

I have even more evidence that he is scum. He wants to push LS now?

Part 3 anyone? Can we get an order of baby seals on the side there Fecalfeast?

The Case Against Fecalfeast, Part 3

Glanced again at his filter. Earlier D1, he townread LightningStrike.

On February 15 2015 07:08 Fecalfeast wrote:


from my reading I have these reads
rayn - scumlean
palmar - scumlean
LS- town
HtS - scum
puppydog- townlean/null
superbia - scumlean

If I missed any quotes let me know I'm pretty tilted about losing my last post


AGAIN HE STARTS WITH A TOWNREAD ON LIGHTNING STRIKE.

On February 16 2015 13:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 04:30 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 16 2015 04:08 Half the Sky wrote:
On February 16 2015 04:05 Blazinghand wrote:
So, just to be clear, nobody here actually thinks Vayne is useful. All you think is that he has a meta of not playing during D1 so he should be allowed to live. Well, there's no argument I can make against that. Follow the RNG for glory, or be left behind in the darkness.


Just saw this.

Where are your reads on others? Or if you live to D2 and beyond are you going to keep RNGing people?

Step it up Blazinghand. Now.

##unvote
##vote Blazinghand


I think he only RNG's his lynches as town lol......


Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 05:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay with Eden counterclaiming BH's claim I think BH might be Mafia now.
##Unvote
##Vote: Blazinghand


which is weird because earlier he asked about eden.
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 11:34 LightningStrike wrote:
rsoultin what you think of Eden? Also I starting to like ritoky this game

maybe I'm misinterpreting this but I usually like to ask people about people I'm scumleaning or undecided on. Why would he side with his undecided/unsure read when he already called BH town?


Also the above is problematic. He makes no conclusion from this post, also he doesn't take into account why LS changed his read. THERE WAS NEW EVIDENCE and that was the counterclaim. AND HE SAID HE BELIEVED THE COUNTERCLAIM. LS almost ALWAYS explains his reasoning for a change in vote.

On February 17 2015 04:37 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 23:09 KelsierSC wrote:
LS I'm just going through your filter and I was hoping you could clarify some things for me.

Essentially you are pretty happy to jump onto the BH vote quite early on, as indicated I believe this is what the mafia would do. You make a few comments like this

On February 15 2015 07:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Oka I'm back and Eden is being a puppy this game hmmmm. He calling Superbia Town by the fact his filter length is larger than his time in Imperial but I still think Superbia is Mafia from my earlier explanations of why I think Superbia is Mafia.


So you are disagreeing with Eden on a read here.

On February 15 2015 11:34 LightningStrike wrote:
rsoultin what you think of Eden? Also I starting to like ritoky this game


Then you ask rsoultin, who I believe you had as town, for their opinion on Eden. I don't know if you followed up on this.

My impression is you are unsure of Eden and have a slight scum lean on him. Perhaps I am incorrect.

However around the counter claim this is your post

On February 16 2015 05:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay with Eden counterclaiming BH's claim I think BH might be Mafia now.
##Unvote
##Vote: Blazinghand


Why are you so sure that Eden is the real JK at this point?

Also I don't really see you calling BH mafia at any point before this so you seem rather unconcerned by this eden claim.



I'm not caught up (pg 82) but I have made a post almost exactly like this one already.


To me this appears he's trying to take advantage of a townie's inaccurate read on LS to get him out. Again, this maintains the point that he's catering to thread sentiment.

There is ONE MASSIVE DIFFERENCE between the way Kelsier is going about it and the way FF is going about:
The former, a confirmed town is actually interrogating and doing the work prior, and the latter is making posts and drawing it out of context.


Plenty of holes in his case against LS. Which goes back to my anti-easy lynch argument.

First point on LS's vote against Superbia. How in the bloody hell do you say that read is forced?!?!?!?

On February 17 2015 17:03 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 01:52 LightningStrike wrote:
Superbia done a similar style of opening on Campus when I played my very first game on TL and here was his opening post:
On November 03 2014 07:16 Superbia wrote:
Welcome to Superbia's tunneling company!

I am currently offering a lucrative one-of-a-kind tunneling contract! Signing this contract means I tunnel the utter shit out of you today, most likely resulting in your lynch.

Are you town enough to survive the tunnel? Are you mafai and feel like taking a risk? First come first serve!

This was my response to his op[ening
On November 03 2014 11:25 LightningStrike wrote:
I messed up my edit by post and I had read the stuff he wrote earlier in the thread and he seemed fishy per say and this my first time playing mafia here on TL :O

I getting the same type of feeling on him this as I had in Campus but this time I got more experience and not afraid of him now.
##Vote: Superbia


This is a really dumb case and I'm not sure I've seen LS actually vote that early ina day before based on just an opening post. Almost looks forced.


YOU KNOW HE USES META IN NEARLY EVERY ARGUMENT HE MAKES AGAINST PEOPLE. GOOD LORD. That was a key point I made against you in my case, and this only reinforces that.

Next 2 points on townreads AGAIN are ALL BASED ON META. YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS.

And your last point on LightningStrike's reaction to JKs is TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT.

On February 17 2015 17:03 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 10:15 LightningStrike wrote:
What the fuck 3 jail keepers? o.o

This reaction looks genuine almost. As in, LS knows alaka isn't mafia and when he claims his first reaction instead of "LOL you are mafia" is "WTF 3 JKs??" as if he was upset about the balance.


I scumread ANYONE who takes ANYBODY out of context. How did you know he was upset? I see nowhere in your filter for what I can find that you've asked him or confirmed with him or tried to trap him if this was a genuine scumread.

Finally Superbia challenges you on meta reading him.

On February 18 2015 06:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2015 06:04 Superbia wrote:
FF can you compare the two filters of this game and his scum game and then tell me with a straight face he's scum?

I dislike meta reads sorry. Unless he has some obvious tell then I'd rather you just pointed it out to me


THIS IS A COP OUT.

Conclusion/TLDR Version
1 You came with a scumread on him out of seemingly nowhere
2 The points against him disregard his normal scumhunting methods. You have 6-7 votes against you and you won't even look at disputing meta reads, which is the biggest point of contention on you.
3 Unlike Kelsier, you aren't pushing/interrogating him to find the information needed from the points you do conclude.
4 You are taking his posts out of context.
5 You're looking for the easy way out here, an easy mislynch as others are scumreading him out of ignorance of his normal play. Rasputin already distinguished between those that played with him and those that did not.

LYNCH
FECALFEAST
WITH
FIRE
TONIGHT


And Fecalfeast, I don't have a problem with you scumreading me. RTFT. I told Rasputin what I'll tell you - I have no problem THAT people are scumreading me. I focus on the WHY, end of.

I've put in MORE than the amount of necessary work to bury you. You want to accuse me of OMGUS?

Now you can't. Because my points are also against you scumreading LS.

So it's absolute rubbish you think I'm going for the easy mislynch. You aren't even defending yourself against my case FFS.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 17 2015 21:36 GMT
#2280
Oh god, I should have broken that into two separate posts.
I also shouldn't be playing this game on a fucking tablet.

Hang on.
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