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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 17 2015 01:39 GMT
#1965
On February 17 2015 10:21 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2015 10:13 rsoultin wrote:
So, HtS...not to beat a dead horse, but you were saying you were scumreading BH before all the JK stuff at EoD. Was that still just for the fact that his VA scumread was obviously fabricated, or was there anything else?


I generally have the expectation that someone with his experience level (especially) should be able to either give reads on other people or at least come up with some sort of other method in conjunction (like PoE) to further support why his RNG read was good if he was that serious about it. I made the point that when he kept offering a "30% scumlynch" I said that there was a 70% chance it was wrong. And he failed to do that. Finally when he claimed I didn't believe his claim largely because of the timing.

As a veteran I expected better from him. He didn't sound believable at that time.

if you think 30% chance was bad for D1 (I 'm not pushing rng today) then I can't really say anything other than: After all, we lynched 100% of a town player yesterday.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 17 2015 01:39 GMT
#1966
hey town puppy are you around?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 17 2015 02:59 GMT
#2007
I don't actually think VA is scum but we should probably still lynch him btw
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 17 2015 03:08 GMT
#2014
On February 17 2015 12:04 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2015 11:59 Blazinghand wrote:
I don't actually think VA is scum but we should probably still lynch him btw


How does this make sense? -_-


Look at his filter. He's never gonna be a townread for anyone. We should probably sit on him for a day and hope a vigi or cop gets him but honestly do you think we can afford NOT to lynch VA?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 17 2015 03:16 GMT
#2020
On February 17 2015 12:12 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2015 12:08 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 17 2015 12:04 rsoultin wrote:
On February 17 2015 11:59 Blazinghand wrote:
I don't actually think VA is scum but we should probably still lynch him btw


How does this make sense? -_-


Look at his filter. He's never gonna be a townread for anyone. We should probably sit on him for a day and hope a vigi or cop gets him but honestly do you think we can afford NOT to lynch VA?


You're talking about potentially carrying him to MYLO/LYLO I assume? Yeah, I can definitely see wanting to prevent that absent strong scumreads. Rayn was pretty positive he was town, though, so I figured it was a meta thing of some sort?

The meta read is that VA is useless as town. I'm not familiar with it or don't remember it, but I don't see why he couldn't also, uh, pretend to be useless as scum. That being said there's some claim that he improves over time so he's probably not an amazing lynch for tomorrow.

Also someone was complaining that I was injecting uncertainty about suberbia. You know what dude, I am factually correct. I've hosted a game where everyone thought a dude was "mod confirmed" when he actually wasn't, and that dude was scum. So you know what? You have no standing to talk about whether it's inappropriate to point out that superbia being scum would make this game "invalid". What would make this game invalid would be if half-animate semi-sentient subhumans like you were in charge instead of people like me who can accurately identify that someone isn't mod-confirmed. Don't give me crap for spitting truth.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 17 2015 03:37 GMT
#2026
On February 17 2015 12:19 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2015 12:16 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 17 2015 12:12 rsoultin wrote:
On February 17 2015 12:08 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 17 2015 12:04 rsoultin wrote:
On February 17 2015 11:59 Blazinghand wrote:
I don't actually think VA is scum but we should probably still lynch him btw


How does this make sense? -_-


Look at his filter. He's never gonna be a townread for anyone. We should probably sit on him for a day and hope a vigi or cop gets him but honestly do you think we can afford NOT to lynch VA?


You're talking about potentially carrying him to MYLO/LYLO I assume? Yeah, I can definitely see wanting to prevent that absent strong scumreads. Rayn was pretty positive he was town, though, so I figured it was a meta thing of some sort?

The meta read is that VA is useless as town. I'm not familiar with it or don't remember it, but I don't see why he couldn't also, uh, pretend to be useless as scum. That being said there's some claim that he improves over time so he's probably not an amazing lynch for tomorrow.

Also someone was complaining that I was injecting uncertainty about suberbia. You know what dude, I am factually correct. I've hosted a game where everyone thought a dude was "mod confirmed" when he actually wasn't, and that dude was scum. So you know what? You have no standing to talk about whether it's inappropriate to point out that superbia being scum would make this game "invalid". What would make this game invalid would be if half-animate semi-sentient subhumans like you were in charge instead of people like me who can accurately identify that someone isn't mod-confirmed. Don't give me crap for spitting truth.

but it's stupid of you to push the idea that he's not town when he's extremely likely to be town.

The idea that he COULD not be town though is important when people are saying he's literally mod-confirmed. Jesus christ man
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 17 2015 04:55 GMT
#2035
On February 17 2015 13:48 Damdred wrote:
Well baby girl I'm here and I'm town so lets end this omgus on my slot.

Obviously I'm a hit behind but I'm going to start out reading some choice filters and sleep. I won't be all the way caught up till tommoeow obviously


D1: I RNged VA and got a cople votes on him. Then people stated voting me for literally zero reason so I claimed JK. then TP claimed JK, but we figured out there are 2x JK so we lynched liancourt who claimed cop with a crumb, but it's ok because he flipped miller
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 17 2015 04:59 GMT
#2037
we didn't lynch VA because he has a meta of uh, dong nothing useful D1 as town, which means how he acted was totes normal. he's got a pretty good (30%) chance of flipping scum though
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 17 2015 05:00 GMT
#2038
drreeeerrrttrrrrreeeefffffffffffgggggtttttrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr <--- this is not a crumb

I don't really buy the meta tbh but what can you do
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 17 2015 05:04 GMT
#2045
On February 17 2015 14:01 Damdred wrote:
Bh you are being very helpful. Now is my slot generally scum read or town read? I haven't read brwshkes filter yet I'll do that after I have some of my own thoughts


A lot of people had null read on Breshke I think. I had no real read, or if I did I forgot it? not sure. In any case Breshke definitely was not a town leader or anything so yeah make sure to do things.

For a long time people thought 1x of me or Town Puppy (the smurf of Eden) was scum, but scum always knew we were both town. People are making headway analyzing how votes and attitudes shifted when we realized we were both town.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 17 2015 05:05 GMT
#2047
Hmm, how am I not surprised. Well, I was RBed.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 17 2015 09:14 GMT
#2105
On February 17 2015 17:43 Palmar wrote:
Morning. I Was roleblocked.


That was probably Eden. I JKed Superbia but was RBed
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 17 2015 09:27 GMT
#2107
What, you thought scum wouldn't be shooting into me and Eden?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 17 2015 16:58 GMT
#2172
On February 17 2015 23:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
##vote: blazinghand

ಠ_ಠ

##vote VayneAuthority

Honestly let's just get rid of this kid, fuck waiting around
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 17 2015 16:59 GMT
#2173
Oh there's a wagon on FF. Can someone point me at the case, I haven't been paying attention
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 17 2015 17:05 GMT
#2178
On February 18 2015 02:00 Palmar wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23773857


Yeah that works for me. Looks like FF is making up reads and not having an actual thought process behind them, and forgetting what he claims his reasons were, which isn't something a town player would do. I'm fine if FF gets lynched and will lynch him over not-VA. I want VA to die first though so I'll vote VA but count me as a vote on FF if necessary to secure the lynch.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 17 2015 18:21 GMT
#2183
On February 18 2015 03:18 IAmRobik wrote:
i just finished page 106 and i'm baffled that you idiots are so dumb that you don't understand why vayne voted for bh.

BH CLAIMED TO JK SUPERBIA.
SUPERBIA CLAIMS TO HAVE TAKEN A BULLET.
THAT MEANS THAT ONE OR THE OTHER IS LYING


> calling us idiots and dumb
> baffled that we don't understand

On February 17 2015 18:14 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2015 17:43 Palmar wrote:
Morning. I Was roleblocked.


That was probably Eden. I JKed Superbia but was RBed


ಠ_ಠ
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 17 2015 20:21 GMT
#2196
On February 18 2015 05:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
wait so because I liked a post on first read and then after further inspection dislike the post, I am scum?

What am I missing here?


People are having trouble discerning your thought process. Basically, when someone changes their mind, unless there's an explanation it seems strange to other people. You see some guy reverse a read and if you can't see the thought process, it looks opportunistic, see? My style of scumhunting relies on looking at people's motivations and thought processes and seeing if they map to real thoughts that could drive their actions. Yours don't seem to fit.

IMO your best strat is to 1. briefly explain your thought process for your voting D1 and 2. present us with a better target. Defending yourself is a waste of time, but if you're town, you can save yourself by catching scum. IMO you should push VayneAuthority, it's your only hope to survive. Yes, subvert your will to mine, push my target, become my servant and perhaps you will find salvaiton.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 17 2015 20:33 GMT
#2203
On February 18 2015 05:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
Already done wtf has he not been playing this whole time and you're the only one scumreading him BH?


Yeah. I'm the only sane person in a crazy world. Amazingly, people who have never done any research or played with him before, based on his meta are meta-reading him as town for uh, not contributing, since being useless is his town meta.

But in time, the power of THE LORD RNG will bring salvation. VayneAuthority shall fall!
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 17 2015 20:53 GMT
#2238
On February 18 2015 05:51 Superbia wrote:
Has LS been scum before in a game? If so, someone mind linking me?

I went through his game history and was unable to find a game in which he rolled scum
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