EPTOn February 13 2015 04:49 LightningStrike wrote:
Damdred: Pushed Gobble Day 1 and Day 2 until the sicklucker stuff happened.
Damdred: Pushed Gobble Day 1 and Day 2 until the sicklucker stuff happened.
How does that make him town?
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On February 13 2015 04:52 LightningStrike wrote: Because the last time I watched Damdred play scum he didn't push or make a case on someone being Mafia in Day 1 (Imperial) That's a really weak reason to give someone a strong town read at this stage of the game. Anything else that makes him town? | ||
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On February 14 2015 23:46 Damdred wrote: I hate doing this but if we lynch the godfather today you are useful if we lynch the other mafia you are a bit useless. Gobble so you have a red check on ls? Two questions: How exactly do you know there's a godfather in the game? What makes you think gobbledydook has a red check on LightningStrike? | ||
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Part 1: Inconsistent reads On February 09 2015 04:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote: ##vote lian Would also be willing to wagon geript for his list post. He has 4 people in his questionable pile in yet questions none of them and seems to be perfectly fine with the players giving reads he thinks are unacceptable. There's no way for him to think that all 4 of those players are mafia, in yet he doesn't bother to consult any of them or sort any of it out despite already having two people in his scumlist. On February 09 2015 07:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote: @LM: Because he was okay with both wagons, mostly. I just found it odd for someone to think both wagons were good and not think anything was up with that, but I might be wrong. On February 11 2015 02:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote: LS/Liancourt: Town. I have absolutely nothing wrong with these slots and I don't understand why other people do. He claims liancourt town for "absolutely nothing wrong" - but he said earlier that he thought liancourt was scum for being okay with both wagons, so that doesn't quite match up. On February 11 2015 02:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote: LM: Townlean. I kind of already explained this. His activity usually makes it really hard to gauge his alignment but I do like the few posts that he has. My biggest issue with him in Carol was that he was posting like he wanted other people to scumhunt for him and he gave off this really weird aura of wanting to "hide." I'm not getting any of that here, so I think he's mostly okay for the moment. LS/Liancourt: Town. I have absolutely nothing wrong with these slots and I don't understand why other people do. Note how he calls LightningStrike hard town and gives a town lean for me. On February 12 2015 15:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote: At this point I wouldn't be surprised if LM was mafia, but I'd be thoroughly disappointed. Kind of implies that I could be scum, without actually doing so or explaining why he changed his mind. On February 14 2015 14:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I do feel like geript would be doing more here but you know, Friday night. /shrug LM is probably going to get lynched if he continues to be useless as is. I do agree with what rayn said when he was talking about the late voters being mafia, because SL picked up a bunch of votes and there wasn't any real resistance to it. This usually means we're dealing with an inactive mafia. It's possible there was a bus of some kind but...Eh. That's where we should lynch. Again, he doesn't actually call me scum, just states that I'll probably be lynched. So why is he now okay with both wagons, both of who were his town reads earlier? Even more so, why would he just sheep onto LightningStrike who he had as hard town based on Damdred saying he thinks someone has a red check?! In my world no townie would just sheep that blindly without considering the fact that Damdred could be scum (although he probably isn't) or that he could be mistaken. On February 11 2015 02:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Slam: Scumlean. His start was okay but then he posted a giant wall of nothing, where he came to no conclusion about pretty much anything. Then he decided that he was going to sheep geript despite geript having him as a scumread and then being totally fine with not being townread by geript for it. On February 11 2015 02:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I think Slam might be the best lynch tomorrow, though. On February 12 2015 12:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Ftr, I don't think that Slam's actually that scummy as of right now. I think the martyring and the fact that he was trying to push the thread forward was actually kind of towny. On February 12 2015 14:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Yes. Slam busses literally all the time. On February 12 2015 14:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote: It makes Slam probably mafia and needing a lynch tomorrow. He busses literally all the time. Despite having SL as his top lynch (even if it was for policy) he basically made a giant post stating that he didn't know what to do or what was going on and opted to sheep geript instead despite not being able to read him or rayn. He had absolutely no interest in lynching SL if he didn't have to and was looking for a reason to vote someone else. This isn't otherwise very interesting, except noting that despite having such a solid scum read on Alakaslam he's done nothing at all to make the lynch happen. Part 2: Defense of sicklucker Most of the defense is not super interesting as it isn't alignment indicative in itself, however this one: On February 11 2015 01:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote: All of SL's votes look like he's just trying not to get modkilled. He came back and took a stance when he was back in the thread. What's the problem? "All his votes were like he's just trying not to get modkilled", I'm not sure how anyone playing town could think that's a towny thing to do. Part 3: What sicklucker said about ObiWanShinobi On February 10 2015 05:32 sicklucker wrote: We agree on something. Can we lynch slam before obi? On February 10 2015 05:35 sicklucker wrote: Its very very unlikely that if obis mafia and under the microscope that he switches his vote 3 times at eod... The first one is especially interesting, he's trying to direct the discussion away from ObiWanShinobi without actually hard defending him which I think is something a scum would be likely to do when their scum buddy is under pressure. ##Vote: ObiWanShinobi | ||
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On February 13 2015 23:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also this gobbledude is town. Confirmed. Just because sl would have voted keirathi on d1. Wouldn't go as far as say "confirmed" but it is in fact an incredibly strong point in his favour. | ||
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On February 15 2015 03:22 Onegu wrote: One thing give me a reason you aren't scum, and your biggest scum read. Will be around for a while then dinner with wife and some after hour entertainment. So if you need me talk to me now, or wait until late late tonight or tomorrow. My biggest scum read is pretty clearly in the case I just posted. And I'm not scum because I know the role PM I received? Not sure if you want me to analyze myself or what? For the record I'm not sold in the slightest about LightningStrike being scum. I also don't think Damdred is scum despite that weird red check thing which I don't quite buy at the moment. | ||
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On February 15 2015 03:28 Damdred wrote: If theres a cop their is a good shot that a godfather exists in the game. Its a bit wifom but goon, rb, godfather isn't the most otherworldy setup. Because of gobbles filter. That's interesting question though, you aren't asking why I think gobbles cop. You are asking why I think he has a red check I'd think goon, RB, GF vs mason pair and cop would be a bit over the top, but I must admit I'm not super familiar with balancing the games. What I wanted to know is what in gobbledydook's filter makes you think he has a red check on LightningStrike, duh. Also since you make a big point about him explicitly a cop, I wouldn't mind if you explained why you're so sure about that, too. But far more interested in the first point. | ||
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I don't hunt for teams, I'm perfectly fine just finding one and then reassessing based on that. | ||
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On February 15 2015 03:45 Damdred wrote: No but seriously someone else has to have tickled your fancy. Just by looking in your filter and things that we really can't change in general we have. Damdred-town Onegu- confirmed town FF- Town, lazy town now though  Gobble- Townish by your own admission Which leaves, LS, OWS, LM Geript Obviously you won't say yourself you have OWS as scum so that leaves Geript and LS? What do you think of those last two? Pretty much can't be geript if I'm right about ObiWanShinobi unless there was some massive bussing going, which only leaves LightningStrike. Which causes a bit of cognitive dissonance as you can imagine. | ||
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On February 15 2015 03:59 Damdred wrote: So lets take a step back then, Who on the town list is wrong then if LS doesn't feel right to you? You're the only one on the list who is not "confirmed" in some way. Fecalfeast is not really 100% confirmed to me. There's a tiny chance that scum was planning on switching from gobbledydook to Keirathi at the last second but town made the switch before they could do it so (barring any other confirmation) gobbledydook is not 100% confirmed either. Based on play alone and nothing else, I'd say gobbledydook is most likely of those to be scum, but honestly the way the wagons went on day 1... I'd rather think I'm wrong about LightningStrike I guess. | ||
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On February 15 2015 04:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote: What's funny is that I'm basically voting to save your life, in yet you're calling me out anyway. looool Eh? As town, I am not here to save myself, I'm here to find scum. So yes, even if you're on the counterwagon I have no issue calling you out if I think you're scum. | ||
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On February 15 2015 04:40 Damdred wrote: I'm not exactly sure if these are actual good reasons. For example SL likes to vote useless team mates but will secure mislynches most of the time. In void 100% would of voted HTS for being useless and being found out. He somewhat bus'd JAT that game as well, so not sure how the vote makes gobble that much confirmed to take them off the table. I'm not sure why you would rather be wrong about LS? Even if sicklucker really likes to bus, would he really bus in such a close lynch? On day 1? I just don't find it likely. Which means gobbledydook is almost certainly not scum despite what his play looks like. It's easier to believe that I am wrong about LightningStrike. | ||
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On February 15 2015 04:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote: LM: why is it that SL's defense is the thing that stood out to you when so many other people said the same thing? Because I was not reading who defended you, I was reading what sicklucker was saying before the claims and WIFOM started. | ||
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On February 15 2015 04:59 Damdred wrote: Its interesting to me in all of our talking LM never pointed out that I missed slam in everything I pointed out. LM what do you think of slam? I had completely forgotten he was still in the game until he posted, like I suspect you had also. As to what I think of him? The fuck if I know. I thought he was town initially for posting the usual nonsensical stuff, then I thought he was scum for not really doing that anymore but then came the martyring and now I've given up hope. | ||
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On February 15 2015 05:45 Damdred wrote: Who were the two people SL was most hostile towards in his filter? Alakaslam and gobbledydook in the early parts I think. | ||
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On February 15 2015 05:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote: So is that still a big issue for you even though you know that this isn't the case? No. But things are getting complicated. Who are your top 2 scum now? | ||
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I am Pureblood Scion (veteran, that is) and that's why I'm having trouble digesting the cop thing, since I feel cop+vet+mason pair is a bit much in a normal mini. | ||
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On February 15 2015 06:02 Onegu wrote: So you want us to believe town got masons and a vet, 2 things that can't be RB, and mafia got a RB? Vet can be RB'd. And it's not like I have choice on whether you believe or not. I am simply stating the truth, it's up to you to decide if you believe it or not. You have an extra night life. If you are RBed, that night life is suppressed during the RB. | ||
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