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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 04 2015 23:44 GMT
#1141
On February 05 2015 08:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 08:42 batsnacks wrote:
On February 05 2015 08:38 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 05 2015 08:37 batsnacks wrote:
On February 05 2015 08:28 justanothertownie wrote:
But he also usually tries to figure the game out or acts like it is already solved as town. Instead he is just making shit up left and right and posting irrelevant nonsense.


This is referring to SL?

Yes.


On February 05 2015 08:30 marvellosity wrote:
On February 05 2015 08:28 justanothertownie wrote:
But he also usually tries to figure the game out or acts like it is already solved as town. Instead he is just making shit up left and right and posting irrelevant nonsense.

yes, this is also true.


This is only half true for SL then.

Yeah he usually tries to figure out the game or acts like it is already solved as town but... he also makes shit up left and right and posts irrelevant nonsense as town.

Generally not without a purpose. He says dumb shit as town but you can see some line of thought. As scum he just posts random bullshit.

What has he posted that doesn't have some line of thought?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16339 Posts
February 04 2015 23:48 GMT
#1142
On February 05 2015 08:44 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 08:43 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 05 2015 08:42 batsnacks wrote:
On February 05 2015 08:38 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 05 2015 08:37 batsnacks wrote:
On February 05 2015 08:28 justanothertownie wrote:
But he also usually tries to figure the game out or acts like it is already solved as town. Instead he is just making shit up left and right and posting irrelevant nonsense.


This is referring to SL?

Yes.


On February 05 2015 08:30 marvellosity wrote:
On February 05 2015 08:28 justanothertownie wrote:
But he also usually tries to figure the game out or acts like it is already solved as town. Instead he is just making shit up left and right and posting irrelevant nonsense.

yes, this is also true.


This is only half true for SL then.

Yeah he usually tries to figure out the game or acts like it is already solved as town but... he also makes shit up left and right and posts irrelevant nonsense as town.

Generally not without a purpose. He says dumb shit as town but you can see some line of thought. As scum he just posts random bullshit.

What has he posted that doesn't have some line of thought?

I am pretty sure I already commented on some of that. I have no intention of going through his filter right now - I will instead go to sleep.

Also because you don't seem to know: I just played a game as his scumbuddy and we did not get along very well.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
February 04 2015 23:50 GMT
#1143
On February 05 2015 08:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 08:42 batsnacks wrote:
On February 05 2015 08:38 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 05 2015 08:37 batsnacks wrote:
On February 05 2015 08:28 justanothertownie wrote:
But he also usually tries to figure the game out or acts like it is already solved as town. Instead he is just making shit up left and right and posting irrelevant nonsense.


This is referring to SL?

Yes.


On February 05 2015 08:30 marvellosity wrote:
On February 05 2015 08:28 justanothertownie wrote:
But he also usually tries to figure the game out or acts like it is already solved as town. Instead he is just making shit up left and right and posting irrelevant nonsense.

yes, this is also true.


This is only half true for SL then.

Yeah he usually tries to figure out the game or acts like it is already solved as town but... he also makes shit up left and right and posts irrelevant nonsense as town.

Generally not without a purpose. He says dumb shit as town but you can see some line of thought. As scum he just posts random bullshit.


So... you're sort of the authority on town SL nonsense vs mafia SL nonsense having been his scum mate last game. Which is it this game?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 04 2015 23:53 GMT
#1144
The first and most important thing I think when it comes to SL is activity, by and large its not a huge reason why hes mafia but it does show up in his activity and how the day is going if he is mafia. For example if you look at Void or at Linux mafia you can see a huge wave of activity when he is up for discussion or when he is on the chopping block and when he starts getting less pressure applied to him he will slink back into the shadows and afk. As town, he generally posts a fair bit even when hes not the topic of conversation and throws out reads as he goes along.

There is a clear somewhat illogical thought process that you can see across his thought patterns as town. Be it crazy plans or ways to confirm that he is town or that someone else in the game is confirmed town he flows with crazy theories no matter what. However in his scum games hes only concerned about himself being confirmed town. You can somewhat see it coming to that by trying to get town read by doing nothing at points.

Hes not really pushing his scum read he is sheeping and giving untrue thoughts as a way to justify his stance at present time. This can be seen with how he characterizes my push on Eden with the questions early on ie when he said I called Edens post terrible. Which had never happened and he went on to say that he would unvote me if It wasn't for the horrible made up read on JAT which was a town tone read at that stage of the game.

Also if you look at his mafia games he has a way to ignore certain things that go on in the game, ie questions in void and Linux at points and statements at others. Here he does the same thing like with th ejat town read or my questioning edens post by selectively showing which posts to talk about.

He is also not scum hunting, as I mentioned before he has a way of making associative reads early on between people ie crazy filters that have some semblance of thought progression. Here we really don't see that, we see a little bit of Damdred is bussing Rsoultin I believe at points but that is a bit odd because just earlier he was playing with the idea of unvoting if not for another read.

Also the lie that batsnacks caught SL in was that he doesn't try hard as mafia. He tries really hard when hes on the block as I said earlier but when discussion is off of him he is a background player rather than in the front which is where hes at now since i'm on the block and he has nothing really to discuss since a mislynch is going through.

tldr
SL is playing towards his scum meta rather than his town meta
He is selectively replying to posts or selecting parts of posts to make others look bad
He is working in the background instead of being in the action not really scum hunting
Is basically afking his vote

SL is a great shot for scum
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16339 Posts
February 04 2015 23:54 GMT
#1145
On February 05 2015 08:50 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 08:43 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 05 2015 08:42 batsnacks wrote:
On February 05 2015 08:38 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 05 2015 08:37 batsnacks wrote:
On February 05 2015 08:28 justanothertownie wrote:
But he also usually tries to figure the game out or acts like it is already solved as town. Instead he is just making shit up left and right and posting irrelevant nonsense.


This is referring to SL?

Yes.


On February 05 2015 08:30 marvellosity wrote:
On February 05 2015 08:28 justanothertownie wrote:
But he also usually tries to figure the game out or acts like it is already solved as town. Instead he is just making shit up left and right and posting irrelevant nonsense.

yes, this is also true.


This is only half true for SL then.

Yeah he usually tries to figure out the game or acts like it is already solved as town but... he also makes shit up left and right and posts irrelevant nonsense as town.

Generally not without a purpose. He says dumb shit as town but you can see some line of thought. As scum he just posts random bullshit.


So... you're sort of the authority on town SL nonsense vs mafia SL nonsense having been his scum mate last game. Which is it this game?

I am quite obviously leaning towards mafia SL nonsense.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 23:55 GMT
#1146
hmm
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16339 Posts
February 04 2015 23:55 GMT
#1147
And with that I am off.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 23:57 GMT
#1148
it's kinda compelling
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 04 2015 23:58 GMT
#1149
On February 05 2015 08:57 marvellosity wrote:
it's kinda compelling


The spirit of damdred compels you
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
February 04 2015 23:59 GMT
#1150
SL did stop posting as soon as I/we/the_collective_sl_voters unvoted him.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 05 2015 00:00 GMT
#1151
i could be convinced into an sl vote maybe.

but not tonight, too tired to think
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 05 2015 00:06 GMT
#1152
Why the hell is this game so frustrating.

I think Damdred's post was pretty town but I felt like when I read SL earlier he was town. Now people want to kill SL and I still don't really see it either!

Can we just kill JAT and then I'll get nightkilled to throw people off and not have to think about this anymore?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 05 2015 00:08 GMT
#1153
On February 05 2015 09:06 Eden1892 wrote:
Why the hell is this game so frustrating.

I think Damdred's post was pretty town but I felt like when I read SL earlier he was town. Now people want to kill SL and I still don't really see it either!

Can we just kill JAT and then I'll get nightkilled to throw people off and not have to think about this anymore?


What was so towny about his filter? What is wrong with my case exactly?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 05 2015 00:11 GMT
#1154
On February 05 2015 09:08 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 09:06 Eden1892 wrote:
Why the hell is this game so frustrating.

I think Damdred's post was pretty town but I felt like when I read SL earlier he was town. Now people want to kill SL and I still don't really see it either!

Can we just kill JAT and then I'll get nightkilled to throw people off and not have to think about this anymore?


What was so towny about his filter? What is wrong with my case exactly?


what's so towny about his towny filter though?
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 05 2015 00:12 GMT
#1155
On February 05 2015 09:08 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 09:06 Eden1892 wrote:
Why the hell is this game so frustrating.

I think Damdred's post was pretty town but I felt like when I read SL earlier he was town. Now people want to kill SL and I still don't really see it either!

Can we just kill JAT and then I'll get nightkilled to throw people off and not have to think about this anymore?


What was so towny about his filter? What is wrong with my case exactly?

I'd have to go through it in detail to argue what's wrong with the case. Idk if I should right now though, I don't think I'm doing a very good job analyzing things. I gave a brief description of why I thought SL was town before, maybe it'd be better if you rebutted that instead of me trying to rebut yours?

On February 05 2015 08:38 Eden1892 wrote:
I also think SL is probably town, both for the thing marv pointed out and his general demeanor. He's a lot more light and clearly having more fun, like he doesn't feel the need to prove himself this game. It fits with his self-declared preference for playing mafia, I think if he were mafia he would be more uptight than he has been because he'd be trying hard to win. And he also kept trying to do stuff d1 even after declaring that he would skip out on the day.

On February 05 2015 08:44 Eden1892 wrote:
Added meta defense of SL: He doesn't act like the game is solved as town until he actually has some read on enough players to believe it's solved. He didn't do it to start Imperial for example. He only did it in NYE Mafia (same-size game as this one) on d3 after town finally caught mafia and had some info to start doing real POE.

So that's not even a legit point, SL might get cocky sometimes about how much he thinks he's solved the game but he's not arrogant enough to declare it solved halfway through d1
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 05 2015 00:13 GMT
#1156
On February 05 2015 09:11 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 09:08 Damdred wrote:
On February 05 2015 09:06 Eden1892 wrote:
Why the hell is this game so frustrating.

I think Damdred's post was pretty town but I felt like when I read SL earlier he was town. Now people want to kill SL and I still don't really see it either!

Can we just kill JAT and then I'll get nightkilled to throw people off and not have to think about this anymore?


What was so towny about his filter? What is wrong with my case exactly?


what's so towny about his towny filter though?

can you do something please
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 05 2015 00:13 GMT
#1157
i have done loads?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 05 2015 00:14 GMT
#1158
i pretty much shut down whatever nonsense you start to bring up and put you on the right tracks, that's a great town skill to have!
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 05 2015 00:15 GMT
#1159
On February 05 2015 09:14 Holyflare wrote:
i pretty much shut down whatever nonsense you start to bring up and put you on the right tracks, that's a great town skill to have!

What do you mean, "on the right tracks"? I'm not on any tracks at all! That's the whole damn problem.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 05 2015 00:16 GMT
#1160
what's wrong with damd/rs at the moment? rs is pretty much gaining mafia points every second tbh
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