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because you're the actual baddie, that's why
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Wait.
We are talking about SL now.
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On February 05 2015 06:22 marvellosity wrote:
I really, really don't like Damdred's super-certain read on LS
I have no idea how you can hard-read LS as mafia for the posts that LS did.
LS always plays pretty weird. It's such an over-read?
exactly and imo he was playing just like the last game he was in so it was really fucking weird to see + be super certain about
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On February 05 2015 06:30 marvellosity wrote:
oh yeah, bats caught sl in a lie.
which is really really weak.
it's especially weak to vote for sl when he just spent like 3 paragraphs explaining to me why LS is definitely mafia
it's all wrong
I am confused. Wasn't bats talking about SL and is voting Breshke?
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On February 05 2015 06:34 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2015 06:30 marvellosity wrote:
oh yeah, bats caught sl in a lie.
which is really really weak.
it's especially weak to vote for sl when he just spent like 3 paragraphs explaining to me why LS is definitely mafia
it's all wrong I am confused. Wasn't bats talking about SL and is voting Breshke?
He means LS.... I was confuesd as well.
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On February 05 2015 06:34 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2015 06:30 marvellosity wrote:
oh yeah, bats caught sl in a lie.
which is really really weak.
it's especially weak to vote for sl when he just spent like 3 paragraphs explaining to me why LS is definitely mafia
it's all wrong I am confused. Wasn't bats talking about SL and is voting Breshke?
bats is voting sicklucker atm.
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On February 05 2015 06:34 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2015 06:30 marvellosity wrote:
oh yeah, bats caught sl in a lie.
which is really really weak.
it's especially weak to vote for sl when he just spent like 3 paragraphs explaining to me why LS is definitely mafia
it's all wrong I am confused. Wasn't bats talking about SL and is voting Breshke?
yeah he moved on
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I think Breshke's scumread on LS is better than Damdred's.
Damdred's is way, way harder which by default makes it a worse read.
One thing I noticed in Breshke's filter is that Breshke actually *defended* LS's use of meta, even though he went on to scumread him not long after.
That reads kinda townie to me - as in, he is actually thinking about LS's alignment, he's thinking about that part of his play and doesn't think it was scummy, but thought other parts of it were scummy.
If Breshke is mafia, then he would have had to have made the post where he said LS's meta-use wasn't actually scummy and then suddenly decide that he was going to scumread LS. Which is definitely possible, but the alternative town-explanation I just gave I think is possible too.
I think the town-explanation for Damdred's read on LS has a much lower probability than what i just described
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On February 05 2015 06:40 marvellosity wrote:
I think Breshke's scumread on LS is better than Damdred's.
Damdred's is way, way harder which by default makes it a worse read.
One thing I noticed in Breshke's filter is that Breshke actually *defended* LS's use of meta, even though he went on to scumread him not long after.
That reads kinda townie to me - as in, he is actually thinking about LS's alignment, he's thinking about that part of his play and doesn't think it was scummy, but thought other parts of it were scummy.
If Breshke is mafia, then he would have had to have made the post where he said LS's meta-use wasn't actually scummy and then suddenly decide that he was going to scumread LS. Which is definitely possible, but the alternative town-explanation I just gave I think is possible too.
I think the town-explanation for Damdred's read on LS has a much lower probability than what i just described
Yes. Good.
Make sure you are around at deadline I would really like to just sheep someone once again.
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i love that I don't even have to do anything this game and it still all works out for the best
hopefully
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No. Let me get the quotes.
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You mean this?
On February 04 2015 12:56 Breshke wrote:
I agree on your points on LS but think it is totally possible he is town
On February 04 2015 12:56 Breshke wrote:
He also doesn't seem to be as engaged as he normally is
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On February 05 2015 06:43 Holyflare wrote:
i love that I don't even have to do anything this game and it still all works out for the best
hopefully
My thoughts exactly.
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On February 04 2015 13:14 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 13:09 Eden1892 wrote:On February 04 2015 12:56 rsoultin wrote:On February 04 2015 12:52 Eden1892 wrote:On February 04 2015 12:49 rsoultin wrote:On February 04 2015 09:23 LightningStrike wrote:On February 04 2015 09:21 sicklucker wrote:
im not scum so im prop not gonna care about this day 1 Really you going to skip Day 1 discussion just because you don't want to play it out? You should know better than that............... Is this the post you were talking about, Eden? That doesn't read to me like LS getting onto SL for not reading. Well, intending not to play, if I'm gonna be precise about it. But I think you get what I'm getting at here - it is strange to me that LS criticizes sicklucker for declaring his intention not to care about day 1 when LS himself clearly isn't paying much attention. It just seems like LS is choosing lame things to snipe, and in the case of the player he voted for, he also just didn't make sense. I think this case is a lot better than the Damdred one honestly. Lol, Eden, were you trolling in your last two scum games? Cause if you were, I can see where he's getting it from. He does these meta things like every game. It is hypocritical assuming that LS doesn't return to the thread, and if that's the case I'll probably happily vote him with you. I was intermittently trolling in Linux and very sparsely trolling in NYE. The problem is that I troll at least a little bit in every game. I trolled the shit out of Hammertime d1. I fuckin drunkposted like Lindsey Lohan the first like 6 hours or so of that game. I trolled to start here by fakeclaiming miller just to do it and managed to improvise it into something resembling a legit play. I didn't troll in Imperial but that's probably just because I was fresh off of a hiatus and had something to prove to myself. I trolled the whole game in World Heavyweight as town and then shit the bed at LYLO and I trolled to start Melee Mini with a similar play as in this game. "Eden trolled at some point" is a terrible meta read, and even if LS uses meta too much there's still two problems with his use here: - He clearly didn't actually check it against prior games when I was town. If you're going to run a meta case saying "ABC did XYZ and ABC does XYZ when ABC is mafia," you should probably make sure ABC doesn't also do XYZ as town. - By the time he actually posted I had long since stopped trolling and had been ?arguably? the most productive player in the thread so far, certainly in the top 3 somewhere. So LS's read wasn't even correct. At no point from the time he posted it was it ever actually an accurate read. LS tries to use meta a lot which i believe he said he was going tot ry and stop but correct me if im wrong anyone he really isn't the type of person to go back and look at peoples games. He more uses it from games he has participated in or asking other players about peoples meta. So yes its bad he didn't go look at your town games but i don't think it is scummy
I actually meant this one
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the fact koshi isn't just with me on damdred makes me feel better about that lynch.
is that naughty of me?
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On February 04 2015 13:14 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 13:09 Eden1892 wrote:On February 04 2015 12:56 rsoultin wrote:On February 04 2015 12:52 Eden1892 wrote:On February 04 2015 12:49 rsoultin wrote:On February 04 2015 09:23 LightningStrike wrote:On February 04 2015 09:21 sicklucker wrote:
im not scum so im prop not gonna care about this day 1 Really you going to skip Day 1 discussion just because you don't want to play it out? You should know better than that............... Is this the post you were talking about, Eden? That doesn't read to me like LS getting onto SL for not reading. Well, intending not to play, if I'm gonna be precise about it. But I think you get what I'm getting at here - it is strange to me that LS criticizes sicklucker for declaring his intention not to care about day 1 when LS himself clearly isn't paying much attention. It just seems like LS is choosing lame things to snipe, and in the case of the player he voted for, he also just didn't make sense. I think this case is a lot better than the Damdred one honestly. Lol, Eden, were you trolling in your last two scum games? Cause if you were, I can see where he's getting it from. He does these meta things like every game. It is hypocritical assuming that LS doesn't return to the thread, and if that's the case I'll probably happily vote him with you. I was intermittently trolling in Linux and very sparsely trolling in NYE. The problem is that I troll at least a little bit in every game. I trolled the shit out of Hammertime d1. I fuckin drunkposted like Lindsey Lohan the first like 6 hours or so of that game. I trolled to start here by fakeclaiming miller just to do it and managed to improvise it into something resembling a legit play. I didn't troll in Imperial but that's probably just because I was fresh off of a hiatus and had something to prove to myself. I trolled the whole game in World Heavyweight as town and then shit the bed at LYLO and I trolled to start Melee Mini with a similar play as in this game. "Eden trolled at some point" is a terrible meta read, and even if LS uses meta too much there's still two problems with his use here: - He clearly didn't actually check it against prior games when I was town. If you're going to run a meta case saying "ABC did XYZ and ABC does XYZ when ABC is mafia," you should probably make sure ABC doesn't also do XYZ as town. - By the time he actually posted I had long since stopped trolling and had been ?arguably? the most productive player in the thread so far, certainly in the top 3 somewhere. So LS's read wasn't even correct. At no point from the time he posted it was it ever actually an accurate read. LS tries to use meta a lot which i believe he said he was going tot ry and stop but correct me if im wrong anyone he really isn't the type of person to go back and look at peoples games. He more uses it from games he has participated in or asking other players about peoples meta. So yes its bad he didn't go look at your town games but i don't think it is scummy
ahh this. I didn't read this. I don't understand what he is saying.
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On February 05 2015 06:45 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 13:14 Breshke wrote:On February 04 2015 13:09 Eden1892 wrote:On February 04 2015 12:56 rsoultin wrote:On February 04 2015 12:52 Eden1892 wrote:On February 04 2015 12:49 rsoultin wrote:On February 04 2015 09:23 LightningStrike wrote:On February 04 2015 09:21 sicklucker wrote:
im not scum so im prop not gonna care about this day 1 Really you going to skip Day 1 discussion just because you don't want to play it out? You should know better than that............... Is this the post you were talking about, Eden? That doesn't read to me like LS getting onto SL for not reading. Well, intending not to play, if I'm gonna be precise about it. But I think you get what I'm getting at here - it is strange to me that LS criticizes sicklucker for declaring his intention not to care about day 1 when LS himself clearly isn't paying much attention. It just seems like LS is choosing lame things to snipe, and in the case of the player he voted for, he also just didn't make sense. I think this case is a lot better than the Damdred one honestly. Lol, Eden, were you trolling in your last two scum games? Cause if you were, I can see where he's getting it from. He does these meta things like every game. It is hypocritical assuming that LS doesn't return to the thread, and if that's the case I'll probably happily vote him with you. I was intermittently trolling in Linux and very sparsely trolling in NYE. The problem is that I troll at least a little bit in every game. I trolled the shit out of Hammertime d1. I fuckin drunkposted like Lindsey Lohan the first like 6 hours or so of that game. I trolled to start here by fakeclaiming miller just to do it and managed to improvise it into something resembling a legit play. I didn't troll in Imperial but that's probably just because I was fresh off of a hiatus and had something to prove to myself. I trolled the whole game in World Heavyweight as town and then shit the bed at LYLO and I trolled to start Melee Mini with a similar play as in this game. "Eden trolled at some point" is a terrible meta read, and even if LS uses meta too much there's still two problems with his use here: - He clearly didn't actually check it against prior games when I was town. If you're going to run a meta case saying "ABC did XYZ and ABC does XYZ when ABC is mafia," you should probably make sure ABC doesn't also do XYZ as town. - By the time he actually posted I had long since stopped trolling and had been ?arguably? the most productive player in the thread so far, certainly in the top 3 somewhere. So LS's read wasn't even correct. At no point from the time he posted it was it ever actually an accurate read. LS tries to use meta a lot which i believe he said he was going tot ry and stop but correct me if im wrong anyone he really isn't the type of person to go back and look at peoples games. He more uses it from games he has participated in or asking other players about peoples meta. So yes its bad he didn't go look at your town games but i don't think it is scummy I actually meant this one
I remember liking the first post Koshi quoted.
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