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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
February 04 2015 04:07 GMT
#621
On February 04 2015 13:04 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 11:49 Onegu wrote:
Lol I come back and HF thinks I'm scum. You know you can't read me


Yep and thats probably why we lynch you at some point



Yep and that's why I'm town.
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 04 2015 04:09 GMT
#622
On February 04 2015 12:56 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 12:52 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 04 2015 12:49 rsoultin wrote:
On February 04 2015 09:23 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 04 2015 09:21 sicklucker wrote:
im not scum so im prop not gonna care about this day 1

Really you going to skip Day 1 discussion just because you don't want to play it out? You should know better than that...............


Is this the post you were talking about, Eden? That doesn't read to me like LS getting onto SL for not reading.

Well, intending not to play, if I'm gonna be precise about it. But I think you get what I'm getting at here - it is strange to me that LS criticizes sicklucker for declaring his intention not to care about day 1 when LS himself clearly isn't paying much attention. It just seems like LS is choosing lame things to snipe, and in the case of the player he voted for, he also just didn't make sense.

I think this case is a lot better than the Damdred one honestly.


Lol, Eden, were you trolling in your last two scum games? Cause if you were, I can see where he's getting it from. He does these meta things like every game.

It is hypocritical assuming that LS doesn't return to the thread, and if that's the case I'll probably happily vote him with you.

I was intermittently trolling in Linux and very sparsely trolling in NYE.

The problem is that I troll at least a little bit in every game. I trolled the shit out of Hammertime d1. I fuckin drunkposted like Lindsey Lohan the first like 6 hours or so of that game. I trolled to start here by fakeclaiming miller just to do it and managed to improvise it into something resembling a legit play. I didn't troll in Imperial but that's probably just because I was fresh off of a hiatus and had something to prove to myself. I trolled the whole game in World Heavyweight as town and then shit the bed at LYLO and I trolled to start Melee Mini with a similar play as in this game.

"Eden trolled at some point" is a terrible meta read, and even if LS uses meta too much there's still two problems with his use here:
- He clearly didn't actually check it against prior games when I was town. If you're going to run a meta case saying "ABC did XYZ and ABC does XYZ when ABC is mafia," you should probably make sure ABC doesn't also do XYZ as town.
- By the time he actually posted I had long since stopped trolling and had been ?arguably? the most productive player in the thread so far, certainly in the top 3 somewhere. So LS's read wasn't even correct. At no point from the time he posted it was it ever actually an accurate read.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 04 2015 04:10 GMT
#623
On February 04 2015 13:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I tempted to switch to Damdred but he also seem to be townie on his defense but that's just my thoughts.

So to clarify you're not actually switching off of me.

Lol this guy
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 04 2015 04:10 GMT
#624
OOPS missed his unvote. MY BAD LOL
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
February 04 2015 04:11 GMT
#625
On February 04 2015 13:05 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 13:03 Onegu wrote:
On February 04 2015 12:49 Breshke wrote:
Onegu who do you want to lynch?



Rsoultin for now, would sheep marv on Damdred also.


Because?



My brain says so. It's a feeling!
Try TL Mafia!!!
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
February 04 2015 04:12 GMT
#626
On February 04 2015 12:59 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 12:56 Breshke wrote:
He also doesn't seem to be as engaged as he normally is


Bresh, do you have any scumreads right now?


You, i don't like the entire damdred thing. You seemed happy to park your vote until you got pinged out. And then trying to folllow the conversation between you and eden about why you scumread damdred gives me a headache and i still don't really get where you are coming from.

I also don't like LS

I want to scumread SL out of spite because "he only tries when he is mafia" and is seemingly going through the thread and replying to stuff now so he is trying yes? But thats just SL so null.

LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
February 04 2015 04:12 GMT
#627
On February 04 2015 13:04 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 13:02 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I understand why people calling me scum on my meta alone but I been playing some LoL games with my clan that's all and honestly I only played with scum!Eden and I getting a strange feeling from him this game that he might be scum but he seems sarcastic and trolling a lot earlier but he seem to be more serious now that how he was in our last game so (shrugs) Also I defended you rsoultin because I know you pretty damn well and you know it


I know you defend me a lot so I'm less suspicious when you do it vice other people. Where are your reads now, LS?

So far seems to be Eden possible scum but it just might be paranoia on my part and I did unvote him since I can't get a train going. Damdred Null leaning his actions early were pretty questionable to how he normally plays but he seemed to look better for now. Sicklucker might be town but the last time I gave him a free pass on Day 1 he was scum I will have to hold off on that for now. Marv and Palmar are town since they made a decent case on Damdred being scum and followed up on it. JAT is most likely town he doesn't seem to be like a dick like he was when he was scum in Void Mafia. HF null I only played with him as scum only seemed him as town for 1 game but I can't tell the difference for now. Bats null he made to little posts for me to read him correctly. Onegu might be possible town but I never played with him before but he got a couple good questions but his filter length is pretty small too. Breshke town he asking lots of questions about me like he did in Student V and trying to make a meta case on me being scum.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 04 2015 04:14 GMT
#628
On February 04 2015 13:09 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 12:56 rsoultin wrote:
On February 04 2015 12:52 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 04 2015 12:49 rsoultin wrote:
On February 04 2015 09:23 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 04 2015 09:21 sicklucker wrote:
im not scum so im prop not gonna care about this day 1

Really you going to skip Day 1 discussion just because you don't want to play it out? You should know better than that...............


Is this the post you were talking about, Eden? That doesn't read to me like LS getting onto SL for not reading.

Well, intending not to play, if I'm gonna be precise about it. But I think you get what I'm getting at here - it is strange to me that LS criticizes sicklucker for declaring his intention not to care about day 1 when LS himself clearly isn't paying much attention. It just seems like LS is choosing lame things to snipe, and in the case of the player he voted for, he also just didn't make sense.

I think this case is a lot better than the Damdred one honestly.


Lol, Eden, were you trolling in your last two scum games? Cause if you were, I can see where he's getting it from. He does these meta things like every game.

It is hypocritical assuming that LS doesn't return to the thread, and if that's the case I'll probably happily vote him with you.

I was intermittently trolling in Linux and very sparsely trolling in NYE.

The problem is that I troll at least a little bit in every game. I trolled the shit out of Hammertime d1. I fuckin drunkposted like Lindsey Lohan the first like 6 hours or so of that game. I trolled to start here by fakeclaiming miller just to do it and managed to improvise it into something resembling a legit play. I didn't troll in Imperial but that's probably just because I was fresh off of a hiatus and had something to prove to myself. I trolled the whole game in World Heavyweight as town and then shit the bed at LYLO and I trolled to start Melee Mini with a similar play as in this game.

"Eden trolled at some point" is a terrible meta read, and even if LS uses meta too much there's still two problems with his use here:
- He clearly didn't actually check it against prior games when I was town. If you're going to run a meta case saying "ABC did XYZ and ABC does XYZ when ABC is mafia," you should probably make sure ABC doesn't also do XYZ as town.
- By the time he actually posted I had long since stopped trolling and had been ?arguably? the most productive player in the thread so far, certainly in the top 3 somewhere. So LS's read wasn't even correct. At no point from the time he posted it was it ever actually an accurate read.


I absolutely agree that that's the appropriate way to use meta, and it's even better if you've played with that player as both alignments, more than just a game or two, but I'm saying LS does this like every game. The same argument you used about trolling (and I was never arguing that you can't troll as town) can be used regarding him and how he uses meta. It's simply not alignment-indicative for LS imo to make that sort of read.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
February 04 2015 04:14 GMT
#629
On February 04 2015 13:09 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 12:56 rsoultin wrote:
On February 04 2015 12:52 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 04 2015 12:49 rsoultin wrote:
On February 04 2015 09:23 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 04 2015 09:21 sicklucker wrote:
im not scum so im prop not gonna care about this day 1

Really you going to skip Day 1 discussion just because you don't want to play it out? You should know better than that...............


Is this the post you were talking about, Eden? That doesn't read to me like LS getting onto SL for not reading.

Well, intending not to play, if I'm gonna be precise about it. But I think you get what I'm getting at here - it is strange to me that LS criticizes sicklucker for declaring his intention not to care about day 1 when LS himself clearly isn't paying much attention. It just seems like LS is choosing lame things to snipe, and in the case of the player he voted for, he also just didn't make sense.

I think this case is a lot better than the Damdred one honestly.


Lol, Eden, were you trolling in your last two scum games? Cause if you were, I can see where he's getting it from. He does these meta things like every game.

It is hypocritical assuming that LS doesn't return to the thread, and if that's the case I'll probably happily vote him with you.

I was intermittently trolling in Linux and very sparsely trolling in NYE.

The problem is that I troll at least a little bit in every game. I trolled the shit out of Hammertime d1. I fuckin drunkposted like Lindsey Lohan the first like 6 hours or so of that game. I trolled to start here by fakeclaiming miller just to do it and managed to improvise it into something resembling a legit play. I didn't troll in Imperial but that's probably just because I was fresh off of a hiatus and had something to prove to myself. I trolled the whole game in World Heavyweight as town and then shit the bed at LYLO and I trolled to start Melee Mini with a similar play as in this game.

"Eden trolled at some point" is a terrible meta read, and even if LS uses meta too much there's still two problems with his use here:
- He clearly didn't actually check it against prior games when I was town. If you're going to run a meta case saying "ABC did XYZ and ABC does XYZ when ABC is mafia," you should probably make sure ABC doesn't also do XYZ as town.
- By the time he actually posted I had long since stopped trolling and had been ?arguably? the most productive player in the thread so far, certainly in the top 3 somewhere. So LS's read wasn't even correct. At no point from the time he posted it was it ever actually an accurate read.


LS tries to use meta a lot which i believe he said he was going tot ry and stop but correct me if im wrong anyone he really isn't the type of person to go back and look at peoples games. He more uses it from games he has participated in or asking other players about peoples meta. So yes its bad he didn't go look at your town games but i don't think it is scummy
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
February 04 2015 04:16 GMT
#630
So TLDR on my reads
Town:
Marv
Palmar
JAT
rsoultin (She acting like she does in normal games asking lots of questions and being paranoid too)
Breshke
Onegu

Null:
Damdred
Batsnacks
sicklucker
Holyflare
Koshi (To little posts to go on for me)
Scum:
Eden1892
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
February 04 2015 04:16 GMT
#631
On February 04 2015 13:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 13:04 rsoultin wrote:
On February 04 2015 13:02 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I understand why people calling me scum on my meta alone but I been playing some LoL games with my clan that's all and honestly I only played with scum!Eden and I getting a strange feeling from him this game that he might be scum but he seems sarcastic and trolling a lot earlier but he seem to be more serious now that how he was in our last game so (shrugs) Also I defended you rsoultin because I know you pretty damn well and you know it


I know you defend me a lot so I'm less suspicious when you do it vice other people. Where are your reads now, LS?

So far seems to be Eden possible scum but it just might be paranoia on my part and I did unvote him since I can't get a train going. Damdred Null leaning his actions early were pretty questionable to how he normally plays but he seemed to look better for now. Sicklucker might be town but the last time I gave him a free pass on Day 1 he was scum I will have to hold off on that for now. Marv and Palmar are town since they made a decent case on Damdred being scum and followed up on it. JAT is most likely town he doesn't seem to be like a dick like he was when he was scum in Void Mafia. HF null I only played with him as scum only seemed him as town for 1 game but I can't tell the difference for now. Bats null he made to little posts for me to read him correctly. Onegu might be possible town but I never played with him before but he got a couple good questions but his filter length is pretty small too. Breshke town he asking lots of questions about me like he did in Student V and trying to make a meta case on me being scum.


This makes me itch with how little it actually says
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 04 2015 04:17 GMT
#632
LS, answer me honestly.

Have you caught up with the thread fully yet?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 04 2015 04:18 GMT
#633
On February 04 2015 13:12 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 12:59 rsoultin wrote:
On February 04 2015 12:56 Breshke wrote:
He also doesn't seem to be as engaged as he normally is


Bresh, do you have any scumreads right now?


You, i don't like the entire damdred thing. You seemed happy to park your vote until you got pinged out. And then trying to folllow the conversation between you and eden about why you scumread damdred gives me a headache and i still don't really get where you are coming from.

I also don't like LS

I want to scumread SL out of spite because "he only tries when he is mafia" and is seemingly going through the thread and replying to stuff now so he is trying yes? But thats just SL so null.



It's as simple as Damdred made some strange comments and then appearing to be deliberately avoiding the question. I have no reason to scumread him otherwise because I really don't see what the big deal was about him questioning Eden's list.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
February 04 2015 04:20 GMT
#634
On February 04 2015 13:17 Eden1892 wrote:
LS, answer me honestly.

Have you caught up with the thread fully yet?

Yes.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 04 2015 04:22 GMT
#635
On February 04 2015 13:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 13:17 Eden1892 wrote:
LS, answer me honestly.

Have you caught up with the thread fully yet?

Yes.

Make a case for me being mafia. You have me as your only scumread, you should be able to make a pretty coherent one.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
February 04 2015 04:24 GMT
#636
On February 04 2015 13:22 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 13:20 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 04 2015 13:17 Eden1892 wrote:
LS, answer me honestly.

Have you caught up with the thread fully yet?

Yes.

Make a case for me being mafia. You have me as your only scumread, you should be able to make a pretty coherent one.

It just meta alone but also I just might be paranoid because the last 2 times I played with you in fact you were scum. I did the same thing to Breshke in Student V because just 2 games before that game that I played with him he was scum so it could just be paranoia again on my read on you so take it with a grain of salt.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 04 2015 04:26 GMT
#637
On February 04 2015 13:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 13:22 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 04 2015 13:20 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 04 2015 13:17 Eden1892 wrote:
LS, answer me honestly.

Have you caught up with the thread fully yet?

Yes.

Make a case for me being mafia. You have me as your only scumread, you should be able to make a pretty coherent one.

It just meta alone but also I just might be paranoid because the last 2 times I played with you in fact you were scum. I did the same thing to Breshke in Student V because just 2 games before that game that I played with him he was scum so it could just be paranoia again on my read on you so take it with a grain of salt.

Those are excuses for why your case might not be good. That's not a case.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
February 04 2015 04:26 GMT
#638
On February 04 2015 13:18 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 13:12 Breshke wrote:
On February 04 2015 12:59 rsoultin wrote:
On February 04 2015 12:56 Breshke wrote:
He also doesn't seem to be as engaged as he normally is


Bresh, do you have any scumreads right now?


You, i don't like the entire damdred thing. You seemed happy to park your vote until you got pinged out. And then trying to folllow the conversation between you and eden about why you scumread damdred gives me a headache and i still don't really get where you are coming from.

I also don't like LS

I want to scumread SL out of spite because "he only tries when he is mafia" and is seemingly going through the thread and replying to stuff now so he is trying yes? But thats just SL so null.



It's as simple as Damdred made some strange comments and then appearing to be deliberately avoiding the question. I have no reason to scumread him otherwise because I really don't see what the big deal was about him questioning Eden's list.


So do you still scumread him?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 04 2015 04:27 GMT
#639
On February 04 2015 13:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 13:22 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 04 2015 13:20 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 04 2015 13:17 Eden1892 wrote:
LS, answer me honestly.

Have you caught up with the thread fully yet?

Yes.

Make a case for me being mafia. You have me as your only scumread, you should be able to make a pretty coherent one.

It just meta alone but also I just might be paranoid because the last 2 times I played with you in fact you were scum. I did the same thing to Breshke in Student V because just 2 games before that game that I played with him he was scum so it could just be paranoia again on my read on you so take it with a grain of salt.


LS, is this still just about trolling?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 04 2015 04:28 GMT
#640
On February 04 2015 13:26 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 13:18 rsoultin wrote:
On February 04 2015 13:12 Breshke wrote:
On February 04 2015 12:59 rsoultin wrote:
On February 04 2015 12:56 Breshke wrote:
He also doesn't seem to be as engaged as he normally is


Bresh, do you have any scumreads right now?


You, i don't like the entire damdred thing. You seemed happy to park your vote until you got pinged out. And then trying to folllow the conversation between you and eden about why you scumread damdred gives me a headache and i still don't really get where you are coming from.

I also don't like LS

I want to scumread SL out of spite because "he only tries when he is mafia" and is seemingly going through the thread and replying to stuff now so he is trying yes? But thats just SL so null.



It's as simple as Damdred made some strange comments and then appearing to be deliberately avoiding the question. I have no reason to scumread him otherwise because I really don't see what the big deal was about him questioning Eden's list.


So do you still scumread him?


Obviously not? He came back in and explained his comments later, and they made sense.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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