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On February 05 2015 23:38 Palmar wrote:as I said, I'm reading backwards, I reached this: Show nested quote +On February 05 2015 15:25 Eden1892 wrote:This is what I was talking about, I should've quoted it in the same post. On February 04 2015 21:32 justanothertownie wrote:On February 04 2015 21:22 sicklucker wrote:
so jat both dandred and ls had totally made up town reads on you. Did you yell at them in the obs qt? You were the only scumbuddy I ever had to yell at (goes to show how "good" your play was). And I didn't even once tell you to townread me. From now on I will ignore your bullshit though. I won't let you feign activity by answering anything like this again. "Won't let you feign activity"? Someone read that and tell me it doesn't sound fraudulent as hell This here is why I am changing my vote to JAT. The main point isn't actually the way it sounds. Also, I might be wrong because I don't know what context this was said in, but here's why I think it could make JAT mafia. The sentence "I won't let you feign activity again" strongly, strongly implies that JAT has already made up his mind that sicklucker MUST be mafia in this scenario. In which case I had a quick look at the vote count, and I couldn't see JAT actually voting sicklucker at any point. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I would never say something that is so damning unless I had made up my mind that he is mafia, in which case I'd be trying to lynch said player.
I love how right I was when I didn't use meta or associative reads.
On February 05 2015 23:44 Palmar wrote:Warning: Associative ReadJAT mafia actually sort of does fit with Damdy mafia 
On February 06 2015 01:04 Palmar wrote:
I retract retracting my scumread on Damdred.
He is now scum4lyfe in this game for being super hostile and annoying. It does not fit with the personality I had attributed to him. He basically chooses to make stand-offs instead of actually trying to talk people into doing shit.
I think Damdred is a nice guy, and on the verge of becoming a truly great TL mafia player (like one of the elite players). This just doesn't fit with anything. It's out of character, it's weird, and it's not productive, and he KNOWS it's not productive.
I cannot believe he's town here.
And how wrong I was when I used them.
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no, the Damdred stuff was all independent of anything to do with me.
HF obviously yes :p
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tbh marv was really towny this game.
then someone tried to build a case on him based on me thinking he was mafia.
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On February 11 2015 20:51 Palmar wrote:
tbh marv was really towny this game.
then someone tried to build a case on him based on me thinking he was mafia.
at least we don't have to do that newbie repentance game, Plam.
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i just policied him for rage quitting
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On February 11 2015 20:54 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2015 20:51 Palmar wrote:
tbh marv was really towny this game.
then someone tried to build a case on him based on me thinking he was mafia. at least we don't have to do that newbie repentance game, Plam.
Yeah thank god.
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On February 11 2015 13:49 Blazinghand wrote:
did he actually RNG his read the way I did? or did he just claim to RNG it
He wasn't lying. And it's worth posting again...
On February 05 2015 12:20 Onegu wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PxTTKle.jpg) Well that's awkward...
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On February 11 2015 20:51 Palmar wrote:
tbh marv was really towny this game.
then someone tried to build a case on him based on me thinking he was mafia.
Yea that was pretty interesting, I think it was WIFOM from your NK.
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On February 11 2015 14:17 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2015 14:09 Holyflare wrote:
was reading n1 again and i get the whole mafia team and then eden says i'm town then he returns and throws it all out and says i'm mafia for absolutely no reason
bro........... you don't ever make sense JAT mindfucked me with all his dumping on my mindmeld In retrospect, a horrible decision that I literally told myself I would never make again
What exactly did you mean by mindmelding? I was pretty confused when you used that word tbh >_<
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Generally means thinking/saying the same things at the same time
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On February 11 2015 14:48 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2015 12:29 Breshke wrote:
I think i actually played fairly bad and was lucky i was blue.
I also don't think claiming when i did was as good as i thought it was at the time You doubt yourself - you did great  You were town MVP this game. I was still lost for the third scum. Bats and his fakeclaims and checking you - but hey I'm still a noob. GG Edit: Mafia QT/Docs of shots? LS/others - Stop with so much meta - let it go, read the current game/thread. Palmar will be happy to help you, PM him Rso - You did very well be proud 
thank you! <3
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On February 11 2015 11:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I followed along a little bit after I realized I was part of the flavor.
Loved the shoutout, thanks hosts. :p
Just caught this comment...hehe anytime. <3
I picked the people I did for the story based on who signed up in Obs QT or who missed out and signed up for BH's game as a result, since I didn't want to chance giving anyone in the game away just because I'd written about them (though I'd written a disclaimer about flavour), the only exception being if someone in the game was the lynch that day.
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On February 11 2015 20:50 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2015 23:38 Palmar wrote:as I said, I'm reading backwards, I reached this: On February 05 2015 15:25 Eden1892 wrote:This is what I was talking about, I should've quoted it in the same post. On February 04 2015 21:32 justanothertownie wrote:On February 04 2015 21:22 sicklucker wrote:
so jat both dandred and ls had totally made up town reads on you. Did you yell at them in the obs qt? You were the only scumbuddy I ever had to yell at (goes to show how "good" your play was). And I didn't even once tell you to townread me. From now on I will ignore your bullshit though. I won't let you feign activity by answering anything like this again. "Won't let you feign activity"? Someone read that and tell me it doesn't sound fraudulent as hell This here is why I am changing my vote to JAT. The main point isn't actually the way it sounds. Also, I might be wrong because I don't know what context this was said in, but here's why I think it could make JAT mafia. The sentence "I won't let you feign activity again" strongly, strongly implies that JAT has already made up his mind that sicklucker MUST be mafia in this scenario. In which case I had a quick look at the vote count, and I couldn't see JAT actually voting sicklucker at any point. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I would never say something that is so damning unless I had made up my mind that he is mafia, in which case I'd be trying to lynch said player. I love how right I was when I didn't use meta or associative reads.
You really weren't though. I am pretty sure I would have posted the same post or something very similar as town. I mean you aren't wrong to call me mafia but this is not why.
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wp all.Town was pretty strong. Incredible to read the posts from marv/eden/hf especially. Others always had at least 1 scum on their list.
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Now I need to type something up about the balance.
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On February 11 2015 23:15 Koshi wrote:
Now I need to type something up about the balance.
You were vehement in obs and scum QT, but whatever you say, please take this into account when you comment:
On February 11 2015 10:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
The 2-shot vigilante was fine, but perhaps mafia should've had a roleblocker. The problem with having a 1-shot vigilante (presuming no medic) is that town can never gain a day by the vig, but if the vig misses they lose a day. By having the vig be a 2-shot, an expert vig could gain a day, a vig that hits once would not gain or lose a day, and a vig that sucks would lose a day. The other blue role from town, the cop, was heavily countered by both a miller and a framer.
The blue roles slightly favoured town, which is fair as the player count (10v3) slightly favours mafia, as the conventional mini size (9) is 7v2. 10v3 is 4 mislynches vs 3 lynches, whereas 7v2 is 3 mislynches vs 2 lynches. The former is easier for mafia as the difference in mislynch to lynch percentage is smaller.
Mafia got very unlucky with both Damdred and sicklucker getting modkilled, as those were potential vigilante shots. This, coupled with Breshke making a game-winning shot on JAT led to the town victory, which marv finalized by a fantastic final day.
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I still love you Palmar and Marv.
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Also Koshi, I want to stress again that:
1 the modkills on 2 potential lynches were 100% justified and there's nothing scum could have done about that
2 setups don't take (potential) modkills into consideration
3 I explained my reasons for wanting a vig in my game
4 the setup was triple-checked
If you want to propose how I could have done the setup, then suggest what you would have done, though I am curious to hear.
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mafia should have had a roleblocker
there's nothing more or less to say about it
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On February 11 2015 23:23 marvellosity wrote:
mafia should have had a roleblocker
there's nothing more or less to say about it
Roleblocker instead of a framer or in addition to a framer?
I was under the impression that scum should have one less power role than town, or so I thought...
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