vote JAT
it's not an associative read
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Eden1892
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On February 05 2015 23:14 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On February 05 2015 23:13 Eden1892 wrote: On February 05 2015 23:09 Palmar wrote: On February 05 2015 23:04 Damdred wrote: Then lynch me marv, and see how much I care I've been kinda wanting to change my mind on you, but now I feel like I have to policy lynch you for being a dick. >votes for Damdred's target okay.jpg I don't make associative reads ~~ vote JAT it's not an associative read | ||
Eden1892
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On February 05 2015 23:18 LightningStrike wrote: I just woke up and saw Damdred started to change his mind on me ^_^ and Breshke is still feeling icky on me about my apologizing this game... Ofc now I see people going after JAT and there really isn't much of a case on JAT being mafia and in Void he seemed like a dick from like Day 1 as mafia so idk if he is or isn't mafia. Damdred at least trying to push his sicklucker case overnight and I discovered from his case though that sicklucker had been going in and out when people don't talk about lynching him and honestly sicklucker thinks my possible sheeping is scummy from the fact he played with me when I was scum but he forgot my filter size as scum is much smaller than when I was town. And ofc HF still doesn't reveal his potential mafia team. And ofc I saw Palmar wanting to policy lynch Damdred for being a dick lol..... I will vote for sicklucker for now until something changes my mind like a scumslip. ##Vote: sicklucker uh, scuse me but yes there is also these walls. does LS normally post big walls like this? i have a super double probationary secret scumtell that might be relevant to this | ||
Eden1892
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On February 05 2015 23:19 Palmar wrote: Also seeing as marv has about 15% of the posts in this game, I'm super unimpressed with his results. I don't really think he's mafia, I was just hoping to find something I could sheep. Sheep me | ||
Eden1892
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On February 05 2015 15:40 Eden1892 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 05 2015 06:20 justanothertownie wrote: Ok, so the people I could maybe be convinced to lynch are: 1 Breshke 3 rsoultin 5 Onegu 6 Damdred 9 sicklucker 10 batsnacks 12 Holyflare I don't actually want to lynch HF that much but I have seen nothing from him that he couldn't do as scum so fuck him. Breshke/Onegu/bats are more POE because they haven't been as towny as the rest of the game but there were still moments from all 3 of them that made me think they could be town. Would need a good case on those to lynch them. SL and Damdred look the worst to me and would be my prefered lynch targets right now. But yeah this list. I don't like it at all. Holyflare is on there for no reason. I bugged him about this and he basically confirmed HF is there for no reason. He has 3 people that he lists as "could be convinced to lynch" but then says he would "need a good case on [them] to lynch them" which doesn't make sense. If you'd need a good case on them then obviously you don't really think they're mafia, so why do you even bother to list them in this set? What's really interesting too is that he clarifies to put rsoultin in this group, but unlike all the others here, rsoultin is actually being pushed. If you think someone probably isn't mafia then why aren't you going to bat for them in the thread when other people are trying to lynch them? When you distill it down it's just Damdred and SL which, oh yeah, have been the same targets people talked about all day. JAT provides no original insight or reasoning into lynching any of them and doesn't even bother to rehash reasons people already stated. And all that could be okay if it were just an update list to tell us where he's at, and if he planned to do more later to narrow this down and give some more useful reads. But that's not what happened. He ends up asking me some questions that clearly weren't going anywhere because "you can never be too sure" I'm not mafia. Says some stuff about SL that is incorrect, some other zzz one-liners. Put yourself in that situation as a townie. You allegedly have a pool of lynches that's half of the game long with 24 hours to pick one, and you know you have sleep and work coming up taking out the majority of that time. Surely you're going to make some meaningful effort to engage people and refine your views right? JAT doesn't do this. We should lynch him On February 05 2015 16:02 Eden1892 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 05 2015 15:48 Holyflare wrote: On February 05 2015 15:40 Eden1892 wrote: On February 05 2015 06:20 justanothertownie wrote: Ok, so the people I could maybe be convinced to lynch are: 1 Breshke 3 rsoultin 5 Onegu 6 Damdred 9 sicklucker 10 batsnacks 12 Holyflare I don't actually want to lynch HF that much but I have seen nothing from him that he couldn't do as scum so fuck him. Breshke/Onegu/bats are more POE because they haven't been as towny as the rest of the game but there were still moments from all 3 of them that made me think they could be town. Would need a good case on those to lynch them. SL and Damdred look the worst to me and would be my prefered lynch targets right now. But yeah this list. I don't like it at all. Holyflare is on there for no reason. I bugged him about this and he basically confirmed HF is there for no reason. He has 3 people that he lists as "could be convinced to lynch" but then says he would "need a good case on [them] to lynch them" which doesn't make sense. If you'd need a good case on them then obviously you don't really think they're mafia, so why do you even bother to list them in this set? What's really interesting too is that he clarifies to put rsoultin in this group, but unlike all the others here, rsoultin is actually being pushed. If you think someone probably isn't mafia then why aren't you going to bat for them in the thread when other people are trying to lynch them? When you distill it down it's just Damdred and SL which, oh yeah, have been the same targets people talked about all day. JAT provides no original insight or reasoning into lynching any of them and doesn't even bother to rehash reasons people already stated. And all that could be okay if it were just an update list to tell us where he's at, and if he planned to do more later to narrow this down and give some more useful reads. But that's not what happened. He ends up asking me some questions that clearly weren't going anywhere because "you can never be too sure" I'm not mafia. Says some stuff about SL that is incorrect, some other zzz one-liners. Put yourself in that situation as a townie. You allegedly have a pool of lynches that's half of the game long with 24 hours to pick one, and you know you have sleep and work coming up taking out the majority of that time. Surely you're going to make some meaningful effort to engage people and refine your views right? JAT doesn't do this. We should lynch him none of this makes him potential mafia other than the bolded Eh I think there's some decent stuff in the other things too. His reads are boring, I feel like the cool town players (which I consider JAT to be) have more interesting reads than what he gave. But hey if the bold will get you to vote him I'm a-ok with you thinking the rest is shit ![]() [/QUOTE] | ||
Eden1892
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On February 05 2015 23:23 Palmar wrote: Why are people townreading HF btw? Did I miss something? no, not really. most people aren't commenting on him in one way or another also I revoke my probationary scumtell, it appears LS sometimes posts walls as town based on reading past games | ||
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Eden1892
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On February 05 2015 23:27 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On February 05 2015 23:25 Eden1892 wrote: On February 05 2015 23:23 Palmar wrote: Why are people townreading HF btw? Did I miss something? no, not really. most people aren't commenting on him in one way or another also I revoke my probationary scumtell, it appears LS sometimes posts walls as town based on reading past games Why did you specifically point out HF being on JAT's scumlist then? If he has done nothing of notice, wouldn't it be normal to be okay with lynching him? (I'm mostly asking because I would probably be okay with lynching HF). Cause of why he put HF on there. He didn't say "HF has done nothing of notice," he said "HF hasn't done anything which can't make him mafia," which as far as I know HF is a pretty small selection of actions. Doubtless HF wouldn't have the rep he has as mafia if there were a reliable list of things he only does as town from which one could read him. He'd be caught far more easily than he is. And when I pressed him to get clarification the end conclusion was that it was just a fear read. He wasn't actually okay lynching HF, and one of the points I make about his list is that half of the people on it are people that he doesn't actually want to lynch anyway. | ||
Eden1892
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On February 05 2015 23:30 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On February 05 2015 23:27 Eden1892 wrote: LS why do you think there's no case for JAT being mafia? I'm biased obviously but I think that's a pretty bold statement to make without anything to back it up Like when I read your thing on JAT it doesn't seem much of a case it more like here why I think JAT is mafia type of thing and honestly I do agree with I think HF on the fact the only like the last 2 sentences was the only thing I can get out of that can make JAT be scum. wtf does that even mean? and why do you think only the last 2 sentences make JAT mafia? | ||
Eden1892
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On February 05 2015 23:33 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On February 05 2015 23:31 marvellosity wrote: On February 05 2015 23:30 LightningStrike wrote: On February 05 2015 23:27 Eden1892 wrote: LS why do you think there's no case for JAT being mafia? I'm biased obviously but I think that's a pretty bold statement to make without anything to back it up Like when I read your thing on JAT it doesn't seem much of a case it more like here why I think JAT is mafia type of thing . yes that's what a case is. Fine well I just don't think it's a good enough case for today to go on and sicklucker looks like the better chance of flipping scum when I must forgive myself for calling sicklucker town when he was scum in Linux.... why not? | ||
Eden1892
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On February 05 2015 23:33 Palmar wrote: How about you post a damn case Eden, stop sucking. Don't just say why you think he's mafia. MAKE A CASE. ![]() | ||
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On February 05 2015 23:37 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On February 05 2015 23:32 Eden1892 wrote: On February 05 2015 23:30 LightningStrike wrote: On February 05 2015 23:27 Eden1892 wrote: LS why do you think there's no case for JAT being mafia? I'm biased obviously but I think that's a pretty bold statement to make without anything to back it up Like when I read your thing on JAT it doesn't seem much of a case it more like here why I think JAT is mafia type of thing and honestly I do agree with I think HF on the fact the only like the last 2 sentences was the only thing I can get out of that can make JAT be scum. wtf does that even mean? and why do you think only the last 2 sentences make JAT mafia? Mainly it seems like just your thoughts that's it. JAT haven't done much other than a few questions and calling me town. Only the last two sentences really would make JAT mafia because of the fact he didn't really ask much to refine his views and more sheepish I think is the right term here? Anyways that's my thoughts on your thing on JAT. that's like... half the entire point. LOL He hasn't done much. That's part of why he's mafia. He's not been very insightful or effective and he's not been digging into the game to correct this. He's a pretty good player, so I expect that his normal town game will be insightful and effective. And importantly, if it's not, I expect him to feel some kind of a sense of urgency to correct this. We see neither. Why would that be town JAT? | ||
Eden1892
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I had another terrible whackjob read that goes in spoilers so you have no one to blame but yourself for reading + Show Spoiler + Did Damdred get upset about me pushing JAT in over SL because they're partners? | ||
Eden1892
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On February 05 2015 23:47 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On February 05 2015 23:41 Eden1892 wrote: On February 05 2015 23:37 LightningStrike wrote: On February 05 2015 23:32 Eden1892 wrote: On February 05 2015 23:30 LightningStrike wrote: On February 05 2015 23:27 Eden1892 wrote: LS why do you think there's no case for JAT being mafia? I'm biased obviously but I think that's a pretty bold statement to make without anything to back it up Like when I read your thing on JAT it doesn't seem much of a case it more like here why I think JAT is mafia type of thing and honestly I do agree with I think HF on the fact the only like the last 2 sentences was the only thing I can get out of that can make JAT be scum. wtf does that even mean? and why do you think only the last 2 sentences make JAT mafia? Mainly it seems like just your thoughts that's it. JAT haven't done much other than a few questions and calling me town. Only the last two sentences really would make JAT mafia because of the fact he didn't really ask much to refine his views and more sheepish I think is the right term here? Anyways that's my thoughts on your thing on JAT. that's like... half the entire point. LOL He hasn't done much. That's part of why he's mafia. He's not been very insightful or effective and he's not been digging into the game to correct this. He's a pretty good player, so I expect that his normal town game will be insightful and effective. And importantly, if it's not, I expect him to feel some kind of a sense of urgency to correct this. We see neither. Why would that be town JAT? He could just be a busy irl town or mafia but again I might be bias but I only played with JAT once when he was town in Metal Mini I might just reread his filter from that game. ...I accounted for him being busy in the case. That's also part of why he's mafia. Given that he's very probably busy (as he noted himself in the thread), I would expect more urgency to figure the game out when he has been here. I don't see that urgency reading his filter. | ||
Eden1892
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On February 05 2015 23:49 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On February 05 2015 23:47 Palmar wrote: On February 05 2015 23:46 marvellosity wrote: On February 05 2015 23:44 Palmar wrote: Warning: Associative Read JAT mafia actually sort of does fit with Damdy mafia ![]() of course it does, i've been thinking that for ages. want a medal? if you buy me a bigger medal cabinet bro those tee ball trophies aren't gonna present themselves! | ||
Eden1892
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On February 05 2015 23:55 Palmar wrote: I actually like this JAT+Damdy+(rsoultin/LS/Kosher) sounds about right. A+ for including Koshi as a possible mafia. I was just thinking the same thing when I saw the vote count | ||
Eden1892
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On February 05 2015 23:04 Damdred wrote: JAT has a much lower chance to flip scum than SL does. You have hard defended SL for pages and haven't even responded to any part of my case or my response to your original reasons why hes scum when instead you directed the thread towards a different vein which is total bullshit. Now Breshke and SL are voting together when bresh said my case was good and I was town. You don't even blink when SL changes from Lets kill Damdred since mafia is trying to push off me onto him and all of a sudden hes super happy lynching JAT. Who by the way is always super try hard as mafia tone is super different from his mafia game. | ||
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