EPTOn February 01 2015 03:03 Holyflare wrote:
ls seems pretty towny to me?
ls seems pretty towny to me?
That's how I feel, but Damdred apparently feels otherwise. I'm double checking to make sure I didn't miss something.
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Half the Sky
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That's how I feel, but Damdred apparently feels otherwise. I'm double checking to make sure I didn't miss something. | ||
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rsoultin
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If Damdy still thinks that LS is scum, though, I'd like to hear why. | ||
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rsoultin
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On February 01 2015 00:32 Damdred wrote: Actually yeah, Palmar post made me chuckle which makes me want to not lynch him. Is this a good reason? I'm not following it. | ||
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Half the Sky
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On February 01 2015 02:54 Holyflare wrote: absolutely 0 policy, chez even linked a post where he says he lynches all people that haven't read their role pm. The last time I've seen him do that was world heavyweight 2? he was mafia I don't know Chez (must be a smurf I'm guessing), let alone what he was trying to convey but at least now it makes sense with your explanation. So basically meta. From experience with Palmar, he's come off as a troll when messing around, but it wasn't fully indicative to me and I didn't make a conclusion on him until he did what he did for the better part of the day (as opposed the first few hours), though it proved incorrect. Disregarding meta, I am coming to a policy lynch based off his current behaviour (and not knowing that game you referenced), but now I understand your position. | ||
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Trfel
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On February 01 2015 03:05 Half the Sky wrote: One more point on Trfel. So Trfel, you don't understand claims coming out of Student Mafia where two people claimed, one claim of which brought you down. You came to me after Carol saying you liked my play at the end, where I claimed medic to save myself. People have also claimed VT in some of the games you have played. Basically you've had enough games where there's been many claims, or you have observed them. My conclusion here is that I don't find what you are saying believable. Ok, I have been in games where there are claims. I have seen claims occasionally used effectively. Sometimes, I know how to use claims. But in what I think are the majority of cases, I don't know how to use claims. I believe I've mentioned this in previous games, if necessary I can dig that up. I DID ask, pretty sure at least twice, for someone to explain Robik's claim to me. And no one did. My extreme lack of mafia experience (never having played in real life) makes me completely unconvinced that Robik is town based on this claim, and that is not going to change until someone explains this to me in a way that I can understand (or links me a guide of satisfactory quality, or whatever). Or maybe I will end up accepting it because if everyone else thinks it, it's probably right, even if I don't know why. But I don't see how I should be expected to come to a certain conclusion about something despite asking about it multiple times and receiving no answer. As for my previous post, I intended to convey that I am a little suspicious of Damdred and Robik and very suspicious of sicklucker. Yes, I put a few comments that didn't contain a read, but are you going to scumread Holyflare and Half the Sky for talking about London restaurants? I'm talking about stuff that I want to talk about because I think it's interesting, if you want to talk about it too, then it was a good thing I mentioned it. If you don't, no harm done. I really have no clue what to make of the Palmar lynch. I don't know that much about Palmar, other than his play is marked with laziness and he plays in bursts of effectiveness. Really, my stance on Palmar and sicklucker is similar right now. I am willing to lynch them and there is a good chance they are scum, but I don't feel there is much else to say about them. Therefore, I will look into other things for now, and decide on the best lynch closer to the deadline (which I think I will need to leave about 3 hours before.....). I just see no reason to push sicklucker or Palmar at this point, since there is nothing I could say about them that hasn't already been said. | ||
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Trfel
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Holyflare
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Really, my stance on Palmar and sicklucker is similar right now. I am willing to lynch them and there is a good chance they are scum, but I don't feel there is much else to say about them. pretty much my feeling too The robik thing is because claiming a blue as mafia is like a ticking time bomb, in this setup it's the biggest risk because people would eventually end up counter claiming him and he would die if he was mafia. He would essentially be risking that the setup doesn't contain the extra blue because if it did he would be obvious mafia which is a silly risk to take as mafia so it's more likely that he's town. or his team is lazy and shit and he wanted a way out and is actually mafia | ||
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Damdred
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On February 01 2015 03:08 rsoultin wrote: LS' play has gotten progressively more townie as the game went on, imo. I, too, found his read on SL odd, so I can't blame Damdred for that. If Damdy still thinks that LS is scum, though, I'd like to hear why. People not reading thread get Scum points strike one to hts and rs | ||
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Holyflare
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On February 01 2015 00:40 Damdred wrote: I was looking at Trfel filter again and a few things popped up at me that raised a red flag. Really hard disbelief/doubt on robik claim when it happened. This is interesting to me because of the difference in what Trfel did and thread. People were mad at Rob claiming but believed it, brownies generally believe claims due to it adding more information and game being slightly easier even if it's bad. Mafia already knew partial setup, and disbelief to robik claim could be a Scum slip from to much info. Moving on thread presence is really down and lots of excuses about why he's not posting much. Lastly a pretty decent sized list post with no conclusive reads no Scum reads just really noncommittal reads, Trfel is scum this doesn't make sense btw because there are modifiers and shit and trfel's latest post was pretty on point so I like him | ||
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Palmar
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On February 01 2015 03:40 Damdred wrote: People not reading thread get Scum points strike one to hts and rs hey what about me I want my points I've not read anything | ||
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Half the Sky
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Half the Sky
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As I said before, Robik is not doing a whole lot so far. He voted Damdred, he's not particularly pushing Damdred. So that's a possible red flag. Think he said something along the lines of "it only matters to me or something" and then when HF calls him out, he talks about formatting. That was the last post in his filter. So I'm confused there. Also of all the other things he's said, I looked at these: On January 31 2015 07:00 IAmRobik wrote: Cause your case revolves around him talking about the setup, and while his posts aren't useful, they're not scummy. On January 31 2015 07:08 IAmRobik wrote: When I first started here, I would say setup speculation was really scummy. But then I realized that most TLers suck at mafia, so I can see why they would default to talking about shit that doesn't matter I think the first quote is noncomittal, I feel and second quote he's making a generalisation when Damdred was the one that made the quote. I think he'd have been more town if he specifically commented on Damdred making that quote. Also Damdred, just realised I missed your question - would I lynch Robik? With the information I have right now? I'd put him on the lynchables list, but Sicklucker seems to be the worst of everyone so far. | ||
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Holyflare
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On February 01 2015 03:35 Holyflare wrote: pretty much my feeling too The robik thing is because claiming a blue as mafia is like a ticking time bomb, in this setup it's the biggest risk because people would eventually end up counter claiming him and he would die if he was mafia. He would essentially be risking that the setup doesn't contain the extra blue because if it did he would be obvious mafia which is a silly risk to take as mafia so it's more likely that he's town. or his team is lazy and shit and he wanted a way out and is actually mafia him being town is far more likely | ||
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Half the Sky
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Second what are your thoughts on HF and Chez scumreading you based on meta? Including the relevant quotes: On February 01 2015 02:52 Half the Sky wrote: Palmar is striking me as policy, unless you're metaing him for scum. On February 01 2015 02:54 Holyflare wrote: absolutely 0 policy, chez even linked a post where he says he lynches all people that haven't read their role pm. The last time I've seen him do that was world heavyweight 2? he was mafia | ||
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Trfel
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On February 01 2015 04:03 Holyflare wrote: and also if it wasn't apparent my case on damdred was a complete joke Of course. That doesn't mean I didn't like it. Not that I would sheep it or anything, but I liked that something happened, and I found it weird that Damdred started out by saying that the other named VT should claim, and then when he ran into light opposition, he took it back immediately. | ||
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