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I was looking at Trfel filter again and a few things popped up at me that raised a red flag.
Really hard disbelief/doubt on robik claim when it happened. This is interesting to me because of the difference in what Trfel did and thread. People were mad at Rob claiming but believed it, brownies generally believe claims due to it adding more information and game being slightly easier even if it's bad. Mafia already knew partial setup, and disbelief to robik claim could be a Scum slip from to much info.
Moving on thread presence is really down and lots of excuses about why he's not posting much.
Lastly a pretty decent sized list post with no conclusive reads no Scum reads just really noncommittal reads,
Trfel is scum
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On February 01 2015 00:40 Damdred wrote:
I was looking at Trfel filter again and a few things popped up at me that raised a red flag.
Really hard disbelief/doubt on robik claim when it happened. This is interesting to me because of the difference in what Trfel did and thread. People were mad at Rob claiming but believed it, brownies generally believe claims due to it adding more information and game being slightly easier even if it's bad. Mafia already knew partial setup, and disbelief to robik claim could be a Scum slip from to much info.
Moving on thread presence is really down and lots of excuses about why he's not posting much.
Lastly a pretty decent sized list post with no conclusive reads no Scum reads just really noncommittal reads,
Trfel is scum
I could get behind this read.
Chezi already said the same thing you know. It's why I said he gets a no-lynch pass from me today. 
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IDK I haven't looked at chez. But just did and I guess he did in his own way, didn't take it that way when I read it the first time
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Ya I started to think Tfrel was scum again mainly he seemed to play similar to how he played in Student V as scum which was pretty much his posts were a lot less to be desired knowing how he plays as town but it might be paranoia from playing a scum with him for the first time and I had a similar paranoia about Breshke in Student V. But seeing you have the feeling about Tfrel as I do I trusting you on this.
##Vote:Tfrel
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On February 01 2015 00:29 Damdred wrote:
I'm not really commenting on your activity LS, it's not horrible and you don't lie about rl things. So what I have been commenting on when it comes to you is a marked change in your posting at this point, reads are a bit different which isn't bad. It should just give people pause when reading you.
What is "different", specifically?
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Smaller posts, reads are a bit harder compared to other games. Not using meta as much.
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On February 01 2015 00:54 LightningStrike wrote:
Ya I started to think Tfrel was scum again mainly he seemed to play similar to how he played in Student V as scum which was pretty much his posts were a lot less to be desired knowing how he plays as town but it might be paranoia from playing a scum with him for the first time and I had a similar paranoia about Breshke in Student V. But seeing you have the feeling about Tfrel as I do I trusting you on this.
##Vote:Tfrel
I'm not voting him right now simply to not be a bitch. He pm'd me after last game, telling me that he really was trying to change his gameplay because he feels like he hasn't made a real impact the last few games. So I want to give him a little more time before I throw him under the bus today.
Trfel was pretty concerned before we received our roles that I would meta-read him to death lol. That said, truffle-bby, you also promised me no giant novels of null as town. You're making it hard for me to give you the benefit of the doubt.
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Vote Count
sicklucker (4): Holyflare, Damdred, Eden1892, Fecalfeast
Damdred (1): IAmRobik
Palmar (2): marvellosity, Chezitwo
FecalFeast (0): Chezitwo
Eden1892 (1): Sicklucker
Trfel(1): LightningStrike
Not Voting (4): Trfel, rsoultin, Half the Sky, Palmar
Currently, sicklucker is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00).
Reminders: Votes are done in the voting thread (link). Make sure to unvote if you want to vote someone new. Voting is mandatory-- you may not abstain.
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On February 01 2015 01:00 Damdred wrote:
Smaller posts, reads are a bit harder compared to other games. Not using meta as much.
He seems more certain than I'm used to him being. Hard to tell if that's just him becoming more confident or if it's alignment-indicative.
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IDK why Trfel would change his town game he's always obvious town and is impactful when he plays meh
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On February 01 2015 01:01 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 00:54 LightningStrike wrote:
Ya I started to think Tfrel was scum again mainly he seemed to play similar to how he played in Student V as scum which was pretty much his posts were a lot less to be desired knowing how he plays as town but it might be paranoia from playing a scum with him for the first time and I had a similar paranoia about Breshke in Student V. But seeing you have the feeling about Tfrel as I do I trusting you on this.
##Vote:Tfrel I'm not voting him right now simply to not be a bitch. He pm'd me after last game, telling me that he really was trying to change his gameplay because he feels like he hasn't made a real impact the last few games. So I want to give him a little more time before I throw him under the bus today. Trfel was pretty concerned before we received our roles that I would meta-read him to death lol. That said, truffle-bby, you also promised me no giant novels of null as town. You're making it hard for me to give you the benefit of the doubt.
He was very effective in Carol idk what the hell he been smoking and he had good impact in Student IV in fact I NK'd him there because I was afraid of him. In Carol he used his Cop power on a question mark and got us to clear FF and he made a good case on KSC in that game that got KSC lynched as scum. Granted he didn't have good impact in the Newbie game but still it wasn't to worrying. His scum game with policy lynching is far from normal from him so that why we both went after him on that in the last game we played (Student V).
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On February 01 2015 00:43 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 00:40 Damdred wrote:
I was looking at Trfel filter again and a few things popped up at me that raised a red flag.
Really hard disbelief/doubt on robik claim when it happened. This is interesting to me because of the difference in what Trfel did and thread. People were mad at Rob claiming but believed it, brownies generally believe claims due to it adding more information and game being slightly easier even if it's bad. Mafia already knew partial setup, and disbelief to robik claim could be a Scum slip from to much info.
Moving on thread presence is really down and lots of excuses about why he's not posting much.
Lastly a pretty decent sized list post with no conclusive reads no Scum reads just really noncommittal reads,
Trfel is scum I could get behind this read. Chezi already said the same thing you know. It's why I said he gets a no-lynch pass from me today.
A friend!
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On February 01 2015 01:02 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 01:00 Damdred wrote:
Smaller posts, reads are a bit harder compared to other games. Not using meta as much. He seems more certain than I'm used to him being. Hard to tell if that's just him becoming more confident or if it's alignment-indicative.
I just more confident that is all and in fact I acted very confident in Student V about my knowledge on Tfrel and argued with DarthPunk (who is a Veteran Mafia player) in that game about Tfrel on Day 1.
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On January 31 2015 23:46 Half the Sky wrote:
I'm looking at Chez's filter.
No idea where he's going with his ideas. His linked explanation to Fecalfeast's vote simply linked to his filter. Why don't you explain exactly what about Fecalfeast made him scumlike?
Then he asks Marv whether he's a distro, when his vote is on him. Where did that come from?
On February 01 2015 00:12 Half the Sky wrote:Damdred - On Fecalfeast, I'm not sure his first post Show nested quote +On January 31 2015 07:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
So I am thinking scum!damdred wouldn't talk about scum strategy in thread, what's the point as scum to talk about what scum knows and needs to confirm in thread? The over-explaination doesn't feel scummy to me idk I would think overexplanation of things is generally a scum trait, but it could be faulty reasoning. Not much to glean from most of his posts at the moment. I get this thought of laziness from the first few hours of the game. This quote is also a potential issue: Show nested quote +On January 31 2015 13:14 Fecalfeast wrote:
Can I just be your hype man this game HF? I'll stand behind you looking tough and intimidating while sporadically interjecting with generic agreements. Now as I said, I'm reading HF as town. But the issue with this quote is a few things: 1 not an interest to solve the game himself 2 HF obv not confirmed town - if both are scum, this could be quite dangerous 3 Could be a scum trying to take advantage of a possible incorrect read by HF On these two quotes, he doesn't look so good, but let's see if he picks things up.
I gave you the fishing rod, it seems you can fish fine for yourself!
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On February 01 2015 01:05 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 01:01 rsoultin wrote:On February 01 2015 00:54 LightningStrike wrote:
Ya I started to think Tfrel was scum again mainly he seemed to play similar to how he played in Student V as scum which was pretty much his posts were a lot less to be desired knowing how he plays as town but it might be paranoia from playing a scum with him for the first time and I had a similar paranoia about Breshke in Student V. But seeing you have the feeling about Tfrel as I do I trusting you on this.
##Vote:Tfrel I'm not voting him right now simply to not be a bitch. He pm'd me after last game, telling me that he really was trying to change his gameplay because he feels like he hasn't made a real impact the last few games. So I want to give him a little more time before I throw him under the bus today. Trfel was pretty concerned before we received our roles that I would meta-read him to death lol. That said, truffle-bby, you also promised me no giant novels of null as town. You're making it hard for me to give you the benefit of the doubt. He was very effective in Carol idk what the hell he been smoking and he had good impact in Student IV in fact I NK'd him there because I was afraid of him. In Carol he used his Cop power on a question mark and got us to clear FF and he made a good case on KSC in that game that got KSC lynched as scum. Granted he didn't have good impact in the Newbie game but still it wasn't to worrying. His scum game with policy lynching is far from normal from him so that why we both went after him on that in the last game we played (Student V).
Lol, I know, I don't know where he's getting this from either, unless it's just the newbie game. But I can say for certain that he does at least believe that he hasn't been playing well.
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On February 01 2015 01:11 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 01:05 LightningStrike wrote:On February 01 2015 01:01 rsoultin wrote:On February 01 2015 00:54 LightningStrike wrote:
Ya I started to think Tfrel was scum again mainly he seemed to play similar to how he played in Student V as scum which was pretty much his posts were a lot less to be desired knowing how he plays as town but it might be paranoia from playing a scum with him for the first time and I had a similar paranoia about Breshke in Student V. But seeing you have the feeling about Tfrel as I do I trusting you on this.
##Vote:Tfrel I'm not voting him right now simply to not be a bitch. He pm'd me after last game, telling me that he really was trying to change his gameplay because he feels like he hasn't made a real impact the last few games. So I want to give him a little more time before I throw him under the bus today. Trfel was pretty concerned before we received our roles that I would meta-read him to death lol. That said, truffle-bby, you also promised me no giant novels of null as town. You're making it hard for me to give you the benefit of the doubt. He was very effective in Carol idk what the hell he been smoking and he had good impact in Student IV in fact I NK'd him there because I was afraid of him. In Carol he used his Cop power on a question mark and got us to clear FF and he made a good case on KSC in that game that got KSC lynched as scum. Granted he didn't have good impact in the Newbie game but still it wasn't to worrying. His scum game with policy lynching is far from normal from him so that why we both went after him on that in the last game we played (Student V). Lol, I know, I don't know where he's getting this from either, unless it's just the newbie game. But I can say for certain that he does at least believe that he hasn't been playing well.
Ya the Newbie game was a bit underwhelming on him but he had irl stuff going on I think in that game so that could affect his play so who knows why would he think he played bad when if you play good you get NK'd like 90% of the time.
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Opinions on ff. Rs and LS go
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Unless it's to avoid a medic save.
Badumdum. <3 you Eden.
Okay, well, talking in circles. Where I'm at right now is despite wanting to give Truffle a chance to break in his new town play, if he doesn't step it up I'm totally behind lynching him today.
FF and Palmar feel more like policy lynches to me.
SL I just don't know about. It's very possible he could be scum but I always think that about him so I don't know. One thing that stood out about me regarding him is he's just not up to his usual mind-fuckery town antics so far this game. I don't know that the rage! based on what his meta said thing is scum SL or just irrational SL.
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On February 01 2015 01:17 Damdred wrote:
Opinions on ff. Rs and LS go
Eh, not a fan of his play in general. I only townread him last game because I knew what role I had and that he was townreading me because of my questioning SL half-claiming it.
I'll take another look through his filter, though, to see if anything specific stands out.
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On February 01 2015 01:23 rsoultin wrote:Eh, not a fan of his play in general. I only townread him last game because I knew what role I had and that he was townreading me because of my questioning SL half-claiming it. I'll take another look through his filter, though, to see if anything specific stands out.
EBWOP:
Actually, I'm not getting a scumread off him after filtering him. What's your problem with him, Damdred, other than him saying he didn't think your setup posts were scummy?
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