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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 31 2015 05:09 GMT
#421
On January 31 2015 13:51 Trfel wrote:
Yeah, no clue why you Europeans stay up so late XD

Though to be fair, I often stay up so late that you guys go to sleep and wake back up and start posting before I finally sleep....


Truffle bby weren't you taking notes?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 31 2015 05:12 GMT
#422
On January 31 2015 14:09 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 13:51 Trfel wrote:
Yeah, no clue why you Europeans stay up so late XD

Though to be fair, I often stay up so late that you guys go to sleep and wake back up and start posting before I finally sleep....


Truffle bby weren't you taking notes?

How about the part where I said that I'm really slow? And the part where IEM is on right now?

I'll get through the thread before I go to sleep. Just, that may be after everyone else has gone to sleep and woken up again.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 31 2015 05:13 GMT
#423
On January 31 2015 14:08 Eden1892 wrote:
Lol at people speculating about my absence or lack of followup when I explicitly said I had work coming up near the end of my posting.

I'm gonna catch up later but to answer HF: Calling it sheeping was a joke, I just thought you had a good point on SL being unreasonably angry/defensive and voted to add to the pressure on sicklucker to explain himself. I asked my question because I wanted to see why sicklucker was tilting.

Also I am completely serious about trying not to get nightkilled n1. Across all sites I play at I've literally gone half a year since I got to see d2 as town. Meanwhile as mafia I've had to drag myself through two final 3's and a final 4. I really don't like playing mafia and I like playing town, but my current style isn't letting me get there for whatever reason, and I'm pretty pissed that I sign up for a game and only get to play 3 days of the side I want to play while dragging myself through 2+ weeks of the side I don't want to play so I'm not a completely shitty teammate. To me being mafia is a fulfillment of the social contract of the game - we can't all be town all the time, so every now and then you have to pay your dues by playing the foil. And I feel like I've gotten a raw deal lately because 80% of my play time has been as the foil.

The really maddening thing is that I don't even feel like my d1 play has been all that good in the games I've been town. It's been okay I guess but I never feel like I've gotten close to solving the puzzle. I could be okay with dying n1 if I caught the scumteam or even felt like I'd gotten close, but I never really did. And again with bigger names like marv and HF in the game, maybe it's silly to even worry about it, but the data says that my play style = nightkilled often, and my self-evaluation doesn't change that.

So yeah, I wanted to sandbag d1. I've deliberately made my play style the last 2 games trolly and bullshit to start day 1 so that I won't be in everyone's townpile for trying hard to kickstart things. I wanted to do the same thing here, but it's getting in the way of actually chasing my lead on sicklucker, and I'm not going to sandbag so hard that I stop actually playing the game right. If I still get nightkilled here to start off then I'll just have to try something else next game.

Also I'm pretty sure I didn't actually ask my question well before work, so I'm gonna try again.

sicklucker, I remember you saying that "your meta says" you get upset at early roleclaims. It seemed like really weird wording, because it's almost like you were explaining yourself following directions. "My meta says I get mad at Robik for claiming, so I got mad at him." Maybe I read too much into it but it seems really formulaic, almost like a checklist. Needless to say, I think that's far more likely to come from a mafia POV. What did you mean by that statement?

Requoting here for reference sake:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 07:37 sicklucker wrote:
On January 31 2015 07:32 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 31 2015 07:31 Holyflare wrote:
On January 31 2015 07:30 LightningStrike wrote:
sicklucker did this the last time he played with me when he was town at New Years Eve Party Mini Mafia.


did what exactly? this is important

He called me town and told me not to claim VT Day 1 in that game.


I never called you town. You just claimed day 1 games 4 days inarow. Here robiks doing it. Its a really really bad play and my meta says I always try to stop people from doing it.

So scum reading me for not liking what robik did is actually retarded


holy walltext eden o.0

I got bored halfway through

got a cliffnotes version?

i.e. you not wanting to die isn't alignment-indicative (according to you)?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 31 2015 05:13 GMT
#424
On January 31 2015 13:57 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 10:39 sicklucker wrote:
I always try to convince people im town nothing new here. The important part is that Ls is confirmed town. Hes usually pretty hard to figure out so im quite happy the way things are going.

These guys are almost always town.

Marv
Robik
Ls
Dandred


Forgive me (or ignore me) if you've already answered this and I just haven't gotten to it yet, but why is being able to figure out someone usually hard to figure out as town a towntell?

You basically just said "this is different from when he is town" ergo "he is town"

:/


I also say Ls is not capable of faking it. So when he has a correct strong read about me hes always town
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 31 2015 05:15 GMT
#425
On January 31 2015 14:12 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 14:09 rsoultin wrote:
On January 31 2015 13:51 Trfel wrote:
Yeah, no clue why you Europeans stay up so late XD

Though to be fair, I often stay up so late that you guys go to sleep and wake back up and start posting before I finally sleep....


Truffle bby weren't you taking notes?

How about the part where I said that I'm really slow? And the part where IEM is on right now?

I'll get through the thread before I go to sleep. Just, that may be after everyone else has gone to sleep and woken up again.


More curious about the nonsense posting while you're "taking notes".

No worries though truffle-bby...I'm not calling you scum. Yet.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 31 2015 05:15 GMT
#426
Im not reading that wall of text till later. But it sounds like a sicklucker correctly called me out as mafia rage posts
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 31 2015 05:15 GMT
#427
On January 31 2015 14:13 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 14:08 Eden1892 wrote:
Lol at people speculating about my absence or lack of followup when I explicitly said I had work coming up near the end of my posting.

I'm gonna catch up later but to answer HF: Calling it sheeping was a joke, I just thought you had a good point on SL being unreasonably angry/defensive and voted to add to the pressure on sicklucker to explain himself. I asked my question because I wanted to see why sicklucker was tilting.

Also I am completely serious about trying not to get nightkilled n1. Across all sites I play at I've literally gone half a year since I got to see d2 as town. Meanwhile as mafia I've had to drag myself through two final 3's and a final 4. I really don't like playing mafia and I like playing town, but my current style isn't letting me get there for whatever reason, and I'm pretty pissed that I sign up for a game and only get to play 3 days of the side I want to play while dragging myself through 2+ weeks of the side I don't want to play so I'm not a completely shitty teammate. To me being mafia is a fulfillment of the social contract of the game - we can't all be town all the time, so every now and then you have to pay your dues by playing the foil. And I feel like I've gotten a raw deal lately because 80% of my play time has been as the foil.

The really maddening thing is that I don't even feel like my d1 play has been all that good in the games I've been town. It's been okay I guess but I never feel like I've gotten close to solving the puzzle. I could be okay with dying n1 if I caught the scumteam or even felt like I'd gotten close, but I never really did. And again with bigger names like marv and HF in the game, maybe it's silly to even worry about it, but the data says that my play style = nightkilled often, and my self-evaluation doesn't change that.

So yeah, I wanted to sandbag d1. I've deliberately made my play style the last 2 games trolly and bullshit to start day 1 so that I won't be in everyone's townpile for trying hard to kickstart things. I wanted to do the same thing here, but it's getting in the way of actually chasing my lead on sicklucker, and I'm not going to sandbag so hard that I stop actually playing the game right. If I still get nightkilled here to start off then I'll just have to try something else next game.

Also I'm pretty sure I didn't actually ask my question well before work, so I'm gonna try again.

sicklucker, I remember you saying that "your meta says" you get upset at early roleclaims. It seemed like really weird wording, because it's almost like you were explaining yourself following directions. "My meta says I get mad at Robik for claiming, so I got mad at him." Maybe I read too much into it but it seems really formulaic, almost like a checklist. Needless to say, I think that's far more likely to come from a mafia POV. What did you mean by that statement?

Requoting here for reference sake:
On January 31 2015 07:37 sicklucker wrote:
On January 31 2015 07:32 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 31 2015 07:31 Holyflare wrote:
On January 31 2015 07:30 LightningStrike wrote:
sicklucker did this the last time he played with me when he was town at New Years Eve Party Mini Mafia.


did what exactly? this is important

He called me town and told me not to claim VT Day 1 in that game.


I never called you town. You just claimed day 1 games 4 days inarow. Here robiks doing it. Its a really really bad play and my meta says I always try to stop people from doing it.

So scum reading me for not liking what robik did is actually retarded


holy walltext eden o.0

I got bored halfway through

got a cliffnotes version?

i.e. you not wanting to die isn't alignment-indicative (according to you)?

TL;DR I guess I get why people would be skeptical of my disdain for getting n1'd, but I really truly honestly for real do not want it to happen again, because it seems like I only ever get to actually play the side I dislike playing (mafia)
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 31 2015 05:16 GMT
#428
On January 31 2015 14:15 sicklucker wrote:
Im not reading that wall of text till later. But it sounds like a sicklucker correctly called me out as mafia rage posts

You clearly didn't read it because there was a part explicitly addressed to you that had nothing to do with me:

Also I'm pretty sure I didn't actually ask my question well before work, so I'm gonna try again.

sicklucker, I remember you saying that "your meta says" you get upset at early roleclaims. It seemed like really weird wording, because it's almost like you were explaining yourself following directions. "My meta says I get mad at Robik for claiming, so I got mad at him." Maybe I read too much into it but it seems really formulaic, almost like a checklist. Needless to say, I think that's far more likely to come from a mafia POV. What did you mean by that statement?

Requoting here for reference sake:
On January 31 2015 07:37 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 07:32 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 31 2015 07:31 Holyflare wrote:
On January 31 2015 07:30 LightningStrike wrote:
sicklucker did this the last time he played with me when he was town at New Years Eve Party Mini Mafia.


did what exactly? this is important

He called me town and told me not to claim VT Day 1 in that game.


I never called you town. You just claimed day 1 games 4 days inarow. Here robiks doing it. Its a really really bad play and my meta says I always try to stop people from doing it.

So scum reading me for not liking what robik did is actually retarded
[/QUOTE]
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 31 2015 05:16 GMT
#429
asdf formatting

w/e you get it, or should
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 31 2015 05:17 GMT
#430
On January 31 2015 14:15 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 14:12 Trfel wrote:
On January 31 2015 14:09 rsoultin wrote:
On January 31 2015 13:51 Trfel wrote:
Yeah, no clue why you Europeans stay up so late XD

Though to be fair, I often stay up so late that you guys go to sleep and wake back up and start posting before I finally sleep....


Truffle bby weren't you taking notes?

How about the part where I said that I'm really slow? And the part where IEM is on right now?

I'll get through the thread before I go to sleep. Just, that may be after everyone else has gone to sleep and woken up again.


More curious about the nonsense posting while you're "taking notes".

No worries though truffle-bby...I'm not calling you scum. Yet.

I'm not going to be 100% serious. Shadowing Artanis showed me that there is a lot of room for fun in mafia, too. The serious stuff is coming, don't worry.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 31 2015 05:17 GMT
#431
On January 31 2015 14:13 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 13:57 rsoultin wrote:
On January 31 2015 10:39 sicklucker wrote:
I always try to convince people im town nothing new here. The important part is that Ls is confirmed town. Hes usually pretty hard to figure out so im quite happy the way things are going.

These guys are almost always town.

Marv
Robik
Ls
Dandred


Forgive me (or ignore me) if you've already answered this and I just haven't gotten to it yet, but why is being able to figure out someone usually hard to figure out as town a towntell?

You basically just said "this is different from when he is town" ergo "he is town"

:/


I also say Ls is not capable of faking it. So when he has a correct strong read about me hes always town


Ooookay. This makes no sense. If he has a "correct" strong read about you on Day 1 shouldn't you be worried he has perfect info if he never does this?

Not hard to "fake" a town read on someone you know is town.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 31 2015 05:19 GMT
#432
I would love to get n1ed tbh. I think I set a forum mafia record for most days without me lynched or nked. Which probably means im bad. I think ive gone 40+ days so far
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 31 2015 05:22 GMT
#433
On January 31 2015 14:19 sicklucker wrote:
I would love to get n1ed tbh. I think I set a forum mafia record for most days without me lynched or nked. Which probably means im bad. I think ive gone 40+ days so far

Well being lynched is lame for sure, but being nk'd... eh. It's an ego boost for a while but at some point it crosses the threshold of "This ego boost isn't worth not being able to play the part of the game I like" into shit-land. I'm there.

So you gonna answer my question? I even cut out the irrelevant bitching for your convenience.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 31 2015 05:23 GMT
#434
I'm bored.

I like HF this game.

Still deciding on most of the rest of y'all...entertain me. Especially FF. You boring, bro.

Also, HTS, but I'm thinking (read: hoping) she actually becomes interesting tomorrow.

Going to bed for once. Ciao.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
January 31 2015 05:37 GMT
#435
On January 31 2015 14:23 rsoultin wrote:
I'm bored.

I like HF this game.

Still deciding on most of the rest of y'all...entertain me. Especially FF. You boring, bro.

Also, HTS, but I'm thinking (read: hoping) she actually becomes interesting tomorrow.

Going to bed for once. Ciao.

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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 31 2015 06:33 GMT
#436
I mean I spazzed at Ls for claiming in previous games and he townread me for it which he should do. There is nothing strange about it
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 31 2015 06:37 GMT
#437
On January 31 2015 13:36 sicklucker wrote:
Edens scum because hes calling me salty about the robik thing while calling me mafia. If im mafia im not salty I would acualy be quite happy about . Therefor I propose that eden is certainly scum.

What do you think of this eden? Now this is what id call strange


Speaking of strange what do you think of this post eden.

Also I accidentally edited that post but I didnt change it no mod kill
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-31 06:44:17
January 31 2015 06:39 GMT
#438
Vote Count


sicklucker (4): Holyflare, Damdred, Eden1892, Fecalfeast
Damdred (1): IAmRobik
Palmar (1): marvellosity
FecalFeast (1): Chezitwo
Eden1892 (1): Sicklucker

Not Voting (5): Trfel, LightningStrike, rsoultin, Half the Sky, Palmar

Currently, sicklucker is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00).

Reminders: Votes are done in the voting thread (link). Make sure to unvote if you want to vote someone new. Voting is mandatory-- you may not abstain.

Try TL Mafia!!!
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
January 31 2015 06:41 GMT
#439
No editing. Next offense will result in a mod kill!
Try TL Mafia!!!
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 31 2015 06:44 GMT
#440
I see no issue with my reasoning. If it's your shtick as town to criticize quick role claims, and you know it is, then you're going to do it as mafia even if you're actually happy about it, because you're going to try to emulate your perception of your town behavior. You're going to do it, and because you're doing it artificially instead of naturally, it might not be a perfect facsimile of your town behavior. You might be underselling it, like you don't really care... or you might be overselling it, and become unreasonably upset about it, and unreasonably defensive when people call you on it.

In other words, exactly what I was worried about with you. Your statement that this is what "your meta says," as I'm interpreting it, seems to reinforce this idea, because it indicates that you were deliberately trying to interpret your own meta on the subject, when as town you presumably wouldn't be bothered about it.

I think you need to answer my question now. Am I misinterpreting your statement I quoted, and if so, how? If I'm not, how else am I supposed to interpret your behavior other than "you oversold your town proclivity to hate on blue claims because you aren't actually town"?

Work with me here. I'm entertaining the idea of your innocence, but if you don't cooperate with me when I ask a basic and important question, you give me very little recourse to assuming your guilt.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
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