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kitaman27
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On March 04 2015 09:17 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 09:13 kitaman27 wrote:On March 04 2015 09:11 Fecalfeast wrote:On March 04 2015 09:10 kitaman27 wrote:bleh well that's unfortunate. On March 04 2015 09:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ooh, also, is kurumi really chezinu? If so, why is he not chezinu? If not, why didn't we shoot kurumi for being intentionally misleading? Are these questions serious? -_- They are letters arranged in a pattern on a screen and as such have no emotion or intent. I was serious when typing them, though. So you honestly want to policy kurumi for pretending to be someone else? If you want to policy him because he isn't doing anything helpful then fine....but he obviously isn't misleading anyone besides maybe you. All you had to do was answer the questions since I'm obviously confused about him. I thought it would be more obvious that I'm not happy with him being chezinu rather than playing. My bad.
mmk sorry! Didn't realize it wasn't obvious to others.
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On March 04 2015 09:17 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 09:13 Toadesstern wrote:On March 04 2015 09:09 sandroba wrote:
Sorry man I'd disagree on that one. That big wall of reads he made does not look like stream of consciousness at all and is the sole reason I'm pursuing this. you are right, I did indeed mix up names there... + Show Spoiler [sicklucker] +On March 04 2015 05:32 Toadesstern wrote:sicklucker seems like a really good shot to me right now. Under the rader, only doing 1 line posts, none of them do anything, only talking about mechanics or something that looks like something but isn't actually because he refuses to do the extramile and do some analysis, like: Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 15:54 sicklucker wrote:On March 03 2015 15:12 AT.Epiphany wrote:On March 03 2015 15:10 Breshke wrote:On March 03 2015 14:56 AT.Epiphany wrote:
So here's my scumread on Geript:
Every single time he's been Mafia he's far more aggressive and confrontational than he is as Town. Moreover his mafia games have him rapidly suggesting lynch targets and putting out scumpiles pretty quickly. As a mafia (and not as a Town) he invariably pushes multiple targets and acts aggressively. Here as well, he started pushing Koshi and the moment I made my post, his first reaction (even though I said I'm posting on shots as a follow-up) was to scumread me because my post was filler.
It isn't filler, the first person to post after me recognized as such, and geript has gambled on being aggressive and unpleasant thinking that people will agree with him because I am new to this forum. Look at his main contribution in the thread.
1) He's tried to normalize the idea that there's no point in trying to reach a consensus on a shot because somebody will shoot anyway. What he's really trying to push though, is the idea that it's normal and ok for everyone to take a shot at 24 hrs and the reason he's doing this is because he doesn't want anybody to gain any information from the shot, which is why he's trying to press the line that there's no point reaching a consensus and then lynching anyone who breaks the consensus.
2) He's then tried to press the nonsensical idea of trying to hunt/lynch the 3P although that makes very little sense for reasons that have already been pointed out.
3) He tries to establish credibility by saying "these are the people I'm ok taking a shot". That doesn't prove anything though, especially since at this point he's done nothing useful except to try and debunk our most useful way of gaining information, which is to try and shoot the guy with the most votes.
4) He's been the one to try and turn the thread into a fight by abusing me (a fight he calculated he'll win because no one here knows me).
1) He suggested we nominate someone to shoot so i don't think that he is trying to avoid us lynching a consensus 2) He then later stated that he ment he doesn't care if we shoot mafia or 3p 3)Isn't trying to debunk any plan useful as it can show any weakpoints it has? Yes it could be frustrating but yeah. 4) I dont think this is true. Yeah vets seem to listen to other vets more than newbies but with geript gunning for some of them (rayn for example) how do you think he can count on them to back him? On March 03 2015 14:05 AT.Epiphany wrote:On March 03 2015 13:59 Damdred wrote:
....we aren't even interested in talking about t device, fuck the device we are scum hunting to figure out a shot.
I will yolo shoot you so please actually contribute now that you got that out of your system You should be, I've scum-read you as well now, because you insta-voted PRESS and are trying to avoid discussion. You are most likely scum as well, and I am just as willing to shoot you. Stop threatening the newbie. I ain't backing down to this behaviour. You say you are a newbie here yet you seem to think you know geripts meta fairly well which doesn't really add up. Also I don't like that you promised to talk about the shot before damdred started going hard against you which led me to believe you had thoughts on people other than him yet what you have posted is mostly from after you said you would give thoughts which leads me to believe you had nothing at the time yet you got angry at geript for not waiting for you to post. Im not sure if im making sense or not but if you could give reads on other people that would probably help. I spent the last 40 minutes combing the database for Geript's games. I'm new here it doesn't make me stupid. I'll respond to the rest after I've cooled down a bit, because Geript's abuse has rubbed me the wrong way. Confirmed town or mafia smurf! what's that even telling us Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 18:24 sicklucker wrote:
Rayn just tell everyone to shoot koshi. Whoever shoots anyone besides koshi with out an insane reason is claiming mafia more of pretending he's doing something as in "see I totally have a read, it's Koshi" without doing anything. It's not his read on Koshi or what he's posting really, it's the elusive not really afk but just enough under the radar that deserves a shot imo. gimme some time to look at that guy in that case  You quoted the post I was responding to rsoultin so I don't know if you got it right. To be clear I think sepuclchre is town and LS is scum.
yeah wanted to quote myself, the post above that...
so
Sandro: Toad you don't think sep is town?
Toad: No I think he's mafia
Toad: wait no... I think I mixed up names... yep it's this sicklucker dude I considered to be mafia
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On March 04 2015 09:19 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 09:17 Fecalfeast wrote:On March 04 2015 09:13 kitaman27 wrote:On March 04 2015 09:11 Fecalfeast wrote:On March 04 2015 09:10 kitaman27 wrote:bleh well that's unfortunate. On March 04 2015 09:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ooh, also, is kurumi really chezinu? If so, why is he not chezinu? If not, why didn't we shoot kurumi for being intentionally misleading? Are these questions serious? -_- They are letters arranged in a pattern on a screen and as such have no emotion or intent. I was serious when typing them, though. So you honestly want to policy kurumi for pretending to be someone else? If you want to policy him because he isn't doing anything helpful then fine....but he obviously isn't misleading anyone besides maybe you. All you had to do was answer the questions since I'm obviously confused about him. I thought it would be more obvious that I'm not happy with him being chezinu rather than playing. My bad. mmk sorry! Didn't realize it wasn't obvious to others.
I mean, now that I go back and look at it with the mindset that he's fucking around it is kinda obvious. I'm a gullible dude.
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On March 04 2015 09:17 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 09:15 rsoultin wrote:
I brought attention to how all his null reads were people who have recently played scum that he misread? That's a pattern of his. He's always extra-paranoid about a person he just misread, and I dunnae...it's like LS knows what scummy looks like enough to actually try to avoid the really blatant things if he were scum, cause he actually has some original, decent reads from time to time that people ignore because of how he articulates them To be fair I haven't rolled scum since Student IV it been a long ass time but that was your first game here silly
lol you turd xP
^ see? no fucking filter. he's trying to correct me while i'm sticking up for him instead of just letting me
yes, I know lol i'm saying that your ability to find scum indicates that you know what looks scummy xP i'm not actually referencing our first game together cause i'd hope your scum game as improved since then
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On March 04 2015 09:18 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 09:15 IAmRobik wrote:On March 04 2015 09:04 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2015 09:00 sandroba wrote:
@rsoultin reasons for thinking LS was a bad shot? also in my filter really you guys you sadden me stream-of-consciousness posting is what makes me think he's town, that i'm gonna say everything in my head as soon as it occurs to me with no filter type of posting...and the little nitnoids y'all like to ping him on are just that, little nitnoids that he can do as town or scum except the list didn't have that at all. in fact the premise of the list is to not be stream of consciousness posting :/ His posting in general has been stream-of-consciousness. Duh the list wasn't. Your point?
I know this isn't directed at me, but my point is that mafia doesn't give themselves alway in every post, they actually try to post like they are town. Finding those gems is what counts when trying to catch them.
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On March 04 2015 09:18 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 09:15 IAmRobik wrote:On March 04 2015 09:04 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2015 09:00 sandroba wrote:
@rsoultin reasons for thinking LS was a bad shot? also in my filter really you guys you sadden me stream-of-consciousness posting is what makes me think he's town, that i'm gonna say everything in my head as soon as it occurs to me with no filter type of posting...and the little nitnoids y'all like to ping him on are just that, little nitnoids that he can do as town or scum except the list didn't have that at all. in fact the premise of the list is to not be stream of consciousness posting :/ His posting in general has been stream-of-consciousness. Duh the list wasn't. Your point?
he's mafia.
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except he does these list posts as town so y'all didn't actually find anything? someone asked him for his updated reads and he gave them in the form of a list
whatever, keep being dumb robik lol
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On March 04 2015 09:01 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 08:56 Alakaslam wrote:On March 04 2015 08:41 Fecalfeast wrote:On March 04 2015 08:38 Alakaslam wrote:On March 04 2015 08:32 Fecalfeast wrote:On March 04 2015 08:25 Alakaslam wrote:
Wait.
I have been gone a really long time, how did we decide on this shot?
Did rayn act on behalf of the consensus? Do you see anyone's eyes yet? To be absent is to be blind. I have a steak in my mouth. Many things can come from catchup but I have learned I suck at that; I will be present and learn from active speech. The last time you spoke of catching up, and the tribulations it brings you, you were scum. What do you think of what you have read? Finish your steak and tell me what you see, if anything. Even the blind have ways to see the world. The steak is Australian and good though. It is to be relished. Indeed I have a better idea of what is going on there, I think. Here, I am trying to remember what I was thinking back when I was here with the wind man, he spake as I did Indeed much like the Templar; "You think as I Do" comes to mind So also there was breshke I think? With similar wisdom. Rayn and Koshi hated my wisdom for the sake of the wifom that rayn himself might have perpetrated, but, it seems not many were in disagreement? I got all of that except "the wind man" and the last line about koshi and rayn
This is a Tubesock:
![[image loading]](http://airportwindsocks.com/images/categories/Pole%20&%20Sock.jpg)
I don't bother with the dick stuff.
Rayn and Koshi hated my push along with Tubesock for lynch control.
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Some musings
1. I thought rayn read pretty genuine in his pursuit of your mom so I'm "ok" that he took the shot. Still a town lean.
2. Probally a pointless question.... But did Robik actually try and shoot or timed it early intentional? For someone with so little presence. I find it poor form to try and take the shot. This is prob more a personal disagreement vs. Anything of merit to scumhunting though.
3. My bresche points?
Is sandroba the only person that agree he looks fishy?
I think bresche is a good point of focus. If you ignored him because you think he's town, please comment on my points against him.
I think Geript was the only one, and that was a soft meta rebuttal
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On March 04 2015 09:23 rsoultin wrote:
-_-
except he does these list posts as town so y'all didn't actually find anything? someone asked him for his updated reads and he gave them in the form of a list
whatever, keep being dumb robik lol
give this guy a medal please, You made me look at his filter and he answered a question that reads "yo, gimme updates on all of your reads you had so far". If he's not downright ignoring that question that's bound to end in some kind of list one way or the other, even if he leaves out half of his reads because he considers them unimportant.
The fact that he did not focus on the changes he consideres important and gave a list of fucking everything is the only thing bad about that post imo.
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Ooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I was thinking of those socks with no predefined foot shape. I thought that was a wind sock. Either way I get you.
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Aplologiea toad. I shoulda said sandroba and toad
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yeah Breshke needs some lynching coming for him.
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On March 04 2015 09:26 roundabound wrote:
Some musings
1. I thought rayn read pretty genuine in his pursuit of your mom so I'm "ok" that he took the shot. Still a town lean.
2. Probally a pointless question.... But did Robik actually try and shoot or timed it early intentional? For someone with so little presence. I find it poor form to try and take the shot. This is prob more a personal disagreement vs. Anything of merit to scumhunting though.
3. My bresche points?
Is sandroba the only person that agree he looks fishy?
I think bresche is a good point of focus. If you ignored him because you think he's town, please comment on my points against him.
I think Geript was the only one, and that was a soft meta rebuttal
hi mocsta
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I actually compared his meta after my gaffe and this game he is much more similar to his town meta. wishywashyness points to town in his case.
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On March 04 2015 08:57 geript wrote:
@Batsnacks
1. Why did you want to shoot Mocsta?
2. Why didn't you try to shoot at all?
because hes mafia
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On March 04 2015 09:26 roundabound wrote:
Some musings
1. I thought rayn read pretty genuine in his pursuit of your mom so I'm "ok" that he took the shot. Still a town lean.
2. Probally a pointless question.... But did Robik actually try and shoot or timed it early intentional? For someone with so little presence. I find it poor form to try and take the shot. This is prob more a personal disagreement vs. Anything of merit to scumhunting though.
3. My bresche points?
Is sandroba the only person that agree he looks fishy?
I think bresche is a good point of focus. If you ignored him because you think he's town, please comment on my points against him.
I think Geript was the only one, and that was a soft meta rebuttal
On March 04 2015 09:28 roundabound wrote:
Aplologiea toad. I shoulda said sandroba and toad
FFS.
Bresche back in focusOn March 03 2015 23:06 Mocsta wrote:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/476732-jack-of-all-trades-mafia?user=Breshke&view=allBresche filter. Conclusion: Fairly likely to be mafia Recommend to be shotReasoningWishywashy ContentBresche early filter focuses on the "plan" for town to control the shot after 24hrs. This is not typically alignment indicative early on, however, it is interesting to note that Bresche has a focus on establishing "town" reads; and not questioning his "scum" reads. Even more so, given that Rayn has been quite active in the thread. Further, note the confidence Bresche exudes when referring to Tubesock (and to a lesser degree Slam + Koshi + FecalFeast) as town. Everyone knows list collaborations are an easy tool for scum to utilising when feigning contribution. But Bresche begs to differ, offering the generic morsel that this effort is too much to be scum. Which leads us to CongruenceI get no focus in his filter. There is talk but none of it has proper conclusions that are reinforced within *THIS* game. His filter has no consistency in thought. Posts within a short duration jump from target to target; which when combined with the tendency to buddy people as town indicate a motive to blend in and offer meaningless contributions. Possibly best exemplified by: Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 13:34 Breshke wrote:On March 03 2015 08:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sandroba is mafia. On March 03 2015 08:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi is mafia. Can you explain these when you are around rayn? I can get behind a koshi shot though rereading horn it is more similar than i thought it was. ##Vote Koshi & Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 15:10 Breshke wrote:On March 03 2015 14:56 AT.Epiphany wrote:
So here's my scumread on Geript:
Every single time he's been Mafia he's far more aggressive and confrontational than he is as Town. Moreover his mafia games have him rapidly suggesting lynch targets and putting out scumpiles pretty quickly. As a mafia (and not as a Town) he invariably pushes multiple targets and acts aggressively. Here as well, he started pushing Koshi and the moment I made my post, his first reaction (even though I said I'm posting on shots as a follow-up) was to scumread me because my post was filler.
It isn't filler, the first person to post after me recognized as such, and geript has gambled on being aggressive and unpleasant thinking that people will agree with him because I am new to this forum. Look at his main contribution in the thread.
1) He's tried to normalize the idea that there's no point in trying to reach a consensus on a shot because somebody will shoot anyway. What he's really trying to push though, is the idea that it's normal and ok for everyone to take a shot at 24 hrs and the reason he's doing this is because he doesn't want anybody to gain any information from the shot, which is why he's trying to press the line that there's no point reaching a consensus and then lynching anyone who breaks the consensus.
2) He's then tried to press the nonsensical idea of trying to hunt/lynch the 3P although that makes very little sense for reasons that have already been pointed out.
3) He tries to establish credibility by saying "these are the people I'm ok taking a shot". That doesn't prove anything though, especially since at this point he's done nothing useful except to try and debunk our most useful way of gaining information, which is to try and shoot the guy with the most votes.
4) He's been the one to try and turn the thread into a fight by abusing me (a fight he calculated he'll win because no one here knows me).
1) He suggested we nominate someone to shoot so i don't think that he is trying to avoid us lynching a consensus 2) He then later stated that he ment he doesn't care if we shoot mafia or 3p 3)Isn't trying to debunk any plan useful as it can show any weakpoints it has? Yes it could be frustrating but yeah. 4) I dont think this is true. Yeah vets seem to listen to other vets more than newbies but with geript gunning for some of them (rayn for example) how do you think he can count on them to back him? On March 03 2015 14:05 AT.Epiphany wrote:On March 03 2015 13:59 Damdred wrote:
....we aren't even interested in talking about t device, fuck the device we are scum hunting to figure out a shot.
I will yolo shoot you so please actually contribute now that you got that out of your system You should be, I've scum-read you as well now, because you insta-voted PRESS and are trying to avoid discussion. You are most likely scum as well, and I am just as willing to shoot you. Stop threatening the newbie. I ain't backing down to this behaviour. You say you are a newbie here yet you seem to think you know geripts meta fairly well which doesn't really add up. Also I don't like that you promised to talk about the shot before damdred started going hard against you which led me to believe you had thoughts on people other than him yet what you have posted is mostly from after you said you would give thoughts which leads me to believe you had nothing at the time yet you got angry at geript for not waiting for you to post. Im not sure if im making sense or not but if you could give reads on other people that would probably help. Couple points Bresche goes into a lot of detail to debunk Epiphany points on Geript, however, at no point takes a stance on Geript OR EPIPHANYThis is critical. Bresche last 2 paragraphs reads as "Im about to wreck yo", and ends miserley with ... "please post more" Think about this.. town *WANT* to pursue their scumspects. What we get here is Bresche saying this: (1) I want you to hang yourself; or, (2) I want someone else to take the lead with hanging you; or, (3) I am giving myself flexibilty to pursue or withdraw. I havent played mafia in about a year, but to me, this has always been indicative of a mafia mentality.
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well acualy idk. At first I thought people who said they would shoot but didnt are scummy. But they coulda just been slow.
Scummy because the shot ended up on town so ther ehappy to watch
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On March 04 2015 09:26 roundabound wrote:
Some musings
1. I thought rayn read pretty genuine in his pursuit of your mom so I'm "ok" that he took the shot. Still a town lean.
2. Probally a pointless question.... But did Robik actually try and shoot or timed it early intentional? For someone with so little presence. I find it poor form to try and take the shot. This is prob more a personal disagreement vs. Anything of merit to scumhunting though.
3. My bresche points?
Is sandroba the only person that agree he looks fishy?
I think bresche is a good point of focus. If you ignored him because you think he's town, please comment on my points against him.
I think Geript was the only one, and that was a soft meta rebuttal
Uhm, this person isn't on the signups list..
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