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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 04 2015 00:07 GMT
#1321
On March 04 2015 09:02 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 09:00 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 04 2015 08:47 geript wrote:
On March 04 2015 08:41 geript wrote:
@Damdred, Rayn, Kita and Sandroba
I want you to post your thoughts on the following people:
Obiwanshinobi
Batsnacks
Sepulchre
Onegu
Oatsmaster

Toad you can chime in on this too. I want to bounce ideas off of people and these are the people I'm the least sure of right now.

all pretty much in the same boat for being under the radar. I wouldn't be able to distinguish between any of them readwise atm. Would make for good vig shots in general if we have any.

You don't think sep is town?

nope, I in fact said I wouldn't mind shooting him a couple hours before the deadline.
He is emotional and seems convinced about what he's saying all right but he's a smurf so I'd expect him to be able to look that way.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 04 2015 00:09 GMT
#1322
Sorry man I'd disagree on that one. That big wall of reads he made does not look like stream of consciousness at all and is the sole reason I'm pursuing this.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 04 2015 00:10 GMT
#1323
bleh well that's unfortunate.

On March 04 2015 09:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ooh, also, is kurumi really chezinu? If so, why is he not chezinu? If not, why didn't we shoot kurumi for being intentionally misleading?


Are these questions serious? -_-
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 04 2015 00:11 GMT
#1324
oh wait, I think I mistook him for someone else. let me check
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 00:11 GMT
#1325
On March 04 2015 09:04 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 09:00 sandroba wrote:
@rsoultin reasons for thinking LS was a bad shot?


also in my filter really you guys you sadden me

stream-of-consciousness posting is what makes me think he's town, that i'm gonna say everything in my head as soon as it occurs to me with no filter type of posting...and the little nitnoids y'all like to ping him on are just that, little nitnoids that he can do as town or scum

FWIW Sandroba, this is actually a pretty good read. You can look at his previous games, but "speaking without a filter" like IDK if I can describe it quite accurately. Like diarrhea of the brain. Game before last scumDP pressure him pretty heavily for it. It gets him a lot of flak.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 04 2015 00:11 GMT
#1326
On March 04 2015 09:10 kitaman27 wrote:
bleh well that's unfortunate.

Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 09:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ooh, also, is kurumi really chezinu? If so, why is he not chezinu? If not, why didn't we shoot kurumi for being intentionally misleading?


Are these questions serious? -_-

They are letters arranged in a pattern on a screen and as such have no emotion or intent. I was serious when typing them, though.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 04 2015 00:12 GMT
#1327
On March 04 2015 09:09 sandroba wrote:
Sorry man I'd disagree on that one. That big wall of reads he made does not look like stream of consciousness at all and is the sole reason I'm pursuing this.


He does that as town quite frequently, actually...I wouldn't blame you for pursuing it, but you'd still be wrong lol
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 04 2015 00:12 GMT
#1328
On March 04 2015 08:41 geript wrote:
@Damdred, Rayn, Kita and Sandroba
I want you to post your thoughts on the following people:
Obiwanshinobi
Batsnacks
Sepulchre
Onegu
Oatsmaster


Most of them I'd probably be guessing at this point due to the size of their filters. I'll check back before the end of the night cycle when we hopefully have more to go by.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 00:13 GMT
#1329
On March 04 2015 09:12 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 08:41 geript wrote:
@Damdred, Rayn, Kita and Sandroba
I want you to post your thoughts on the following people:
Obiwanshinobi
Batsnacks
Sepulchre
Onegu
Oatsmaster


Most of them I'd probably be guessing at this point due to the size of their filters. I'll check back before the end of the night cycle when we hopefully have more to go by.

Can you check now? Pretty pls.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 04 2015 00:13 GMT
#1330
On March 04 2015 09:09 sandroba wrote:
Sorry man I'd disagree on that one. That big wall of reads he made does not look like stream of consciousness at all and is the sole reason I'm pursuing this.

you are right, I did indeed mix up names there...

+ Show Spoiler [sicklucker] +
On March 04 2015 05:32 Toadesstern wrote:
sicklucker seems like a really good shot to me right now.

Under the rader, only doing 1 line posts, none of them do anything, only talking about mechanics or something that looks like something but isn't actually because he refuses to do the extramile and do some analysis, like:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 15:54 sicklucker wrote:
On March 03 2015 15:12 AT.Epiphany wrote:
On March 03 2015 15:10 Breshke wrote:
On March 03 2015 14:56 AT.Epiphany wrote:
So here's my scumread on Geript:

Every single time he's been Mafia he's far more aggressive and confrontational than he is as Town. Moreover his mafia games have him rapidly suggesting lynch targets and putting out scumpiles pretty quickly. As a mafia (and not as a Town) he invariably pushes multiple targets and acts aggressively. Here as well, he started pushing Koshi and the moment I made my post, his first reaction (even though I said I'm posting on shots as a follow-up) was to scumread me because my post was filler.

It isn't filler, the first person to post after me recognized as such, and geript has gambled on being aggressive and unpleasant thinking that people will agree with him because I am new to this forum. Look at his main contribution in the thread.

1) He's tried to normalize the idea that there's no point in trying to reach a consensus on a shot because somebody will shoot anyway. What he's really trying to push though, is the idea that it's normal and ok for everyone to take a shot at 24 hrs and the reason he's doing this is because he doesn't want anybody to gain any information from the shot, which is why he's trying to press the line that there's no point reaching a consensus and then lynching anyone who breaks the consensus.

2) He's then tried to press the nonsensical idea of trying to hunt/lynch the 3P although that makes very little sense for reasons that have already been pointed out.

3) He tries to establish credibility by saying "these are the people I'm ok taking a shot". That doesn't prove anything though, especially since at this point he's done nothing useful except to try and debunk our most useful way of gaining information, which is to try and shoot the guy with the most votes.

4) He's been the one to try and turn the thread into a fight by abusing me (a fight he calculated he'll win because no one here knows me).



1) He suggested we nominate someone to shoot so i don't think that he is trying to avoid us lynching a consensus

2) He then later stated that he ment he doesn't care if we shoot mafia or 3p

3)Isn't trying to debunk any plan useful as it can show any weakpoints it has? Yes it could be frustrating but yeah.

4) I dont think this is true. Yeah vets seem to listen to other vets more than newbies but with geript gunning for some of them (rayn for example) how do you think he can count on them to back him?

On March 03 2015 14:05 AT.Epiphany wrote:
On March 03 2015 13:59 Damdred wrote:
....we aren't even interested in talking about t device, fuck the device we are scum hunting to figure out a shot.

I will yolo shoot you so please actually contribute now that you got that out of your system



You should be, I've scum-read you as well now, because you insta-voted PRESS and are trying to avoid discussion. You are most likely scum as well, and I am just as willing to shoot you.

Stop threatening the newbie. I ain't backing down to this behaviour.


You say you are a newbie here yet you seem to think you know geripts meta fairly well which doesn't really add up.

Also I don't like that you promised to talk about the shot before damdred started going hard against you which led me to believe you had thoughts on people other than him yet what you have posted is mostly from after you said you would give thoughts which leads me to believe you had nothing at the time yet you got angry at geript for not waiting for you to post.

Im not sure if im making sense or not but if you could give reads on other people that would probably help.


I spent the last 40 minutes combing the database for Geript's games. I'm new here it doesn't make me stupid.

I'll respond to the rest after I've cooled down a bit, because Geript's abuse has rubbed me the wrong way.


Confirmed town or mafia smurf!
what's that even telling us

Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 18:24 sicklucker wrote:
Rayn just tell everyone to shoot koshi. Whoever shoots anyone besides koshi with out an insane reason is claiming mafia
more of pretending he's doing something as in "see I totally have a read, it's Koshi" without doing anything.

It's not his read on Koshi or what he's posting really, it's the elusive not really afk but just enough under the radar that deserves a shot imo.

gimme some time to look at that guy in that case
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 04 2015 00:13 GMT
#1331
On March 04 2015 09:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 09:10 kitaman27 wrote:
bleh well that's unfortunate.

On March 04 2015 09:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ooh, also, is kurumi really chezinu? If so, why is he not chezinu? If not, why didn't we shoot kurumi for being intentionally misleading?


Are these questions serious? -_-

They are letters arranged in a pattern on a screen and as such have no emotion or intent. I was serious when typing them, though.


So you honestly want to policy kurumi for pretending to be someone else? If you want to policy him because he isn't doing anything helpful then fine....but he obviously isn't misleading anyone besides maybe you.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 04 2015 00:15 GMT
#1332
I brought attention to how all his null reads were people who have recently played scum that he misread? That's a pattern of his. He's always extra-paranoid about a person he just misread, and I dunnae...it's like LS knows what scummy looks like enough to actually try to avoid the really blatant things if he were scum, cause he actually has some original, decent reads from time to time that people ignore because of how he articulates them
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 04 2015 00:15 GMT
#1333
On March 04 2015 09:04 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 09:00 sandroba wrote:
@rsoultin reasons for thinking LS was a bad shot?


also in my filter really you guys you sadden me

stream-of-consciousness posting is what makes me think he's town, that i'm gonna say everything in my head as soon as it occurs to me with no filter type of posting...and the little nitnoids y'all like to ping him on are just that, little nitnoids that he can do as town or scum

except the list didn't have that at all. in fact the premise of the list is to not be stream of consciousness posting
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 04 2015 00:15 GMT
#1334
On March 04 2015 09:09 sandroba wrote:
Sorry man I'd disagree on that one. That big wall of reads he made does not look like stream of consciousness at all and is the sole reason I'm pursuing this.

<3 i hate your brazilian ass but i love your reads.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 04 2015 00:15 GMT
#1335
On March 04 2015 09:13 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 09:12 kitaman27 wrote:
On March 04 2015 08:41 geript wrote:
@Damdred, Rayn, Kita and Sandroba
I want you to post your thoughts on the following people:
Obiwanshinobi
Batsnacks
Sepulchre
Onegu
Oatsmaster


Most of them I'd probably be guessing at this point due to the size of their filters. I'll check back before the end of the night cycle when we hopefully have more to go by.

Can you check now? Pretty pls.


Why?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 04 2015 00:17 GMT
#1336
On March 04 2015 09:13 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 09:09 sandroba wrote:
Sorry man I'd disagree on that one. That big wall of reads he made does not look like stream of consciousness at all and is the sole reason I'm pursuing this.

you are right, I did indeed mix up names there...

+ Show Spoiler [sicklucker] +
On March 04 2015 05:32 Toadesstern wrote:
sicklucker seems like a really good shot to me right now.

Under the rader, only doing 1 line posts, none of them do anything, only talking about mechanics or something that looks like something but isn't actually because he refuses to do the extramile and do some analysis, like:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 15:54 sicklucker wrote:
On March 03 2015 15:12 AT.Epiphany wrote:
On March 03 2015 15:10 Breshke wrote:
On March 03 2015 14:56 AT.Epiphany wrote:
So here's my scumread on Geript:

Every single time he's been Mafia he's far more aggressive and confrontational than he is as Town. Moreover his mafia games have him rapidly suggesting lynch targets and putting out scumpiles pretty quickly. As a mafia (and not as a Town) he invariably pushes multiple targets and acts aggressively. Here as well, he started pushing Koshi and the moment I made my post, his first reaction (even though I said I'm posting on shots as a follow-up) was to scumread me because my post was filler.

It isn't filler, the first person to post after me recognized as such, and geript has gambled on being aggressive and unpleasant thinking that people will agree with him because I am new to this forum. Look at his main contribution in the thread.

1) He's tried to normalize the idea that there's no point in trying to reach a consensus on a shot because somebody will shoot anyway. What he's really trying to push though, is the idea that it's normal and ok for everyone to take a shot at 24 hrs and the reason he's doing this is because he doesn't want anybody to gain any information from the shot, which is why he's trying to press the line that there's no point reaching a consensus and then lynching anyone who breaks the consensus.

2) He's then tried to press the nonsensical idea of trying to hunt/lynch the 3P although that makes very little sense for reasons that have already been pointed out.

3) He tries to establish credibility by saying "these are the people I'm ok taking a shot". That doesn't prove anything though, especially since at this point he's done nothing useful except to try and debunk our most useful way of gaining information, which is to try and shoot the guy with the most votes.

4) He's been the one to try and turn the thread into a fight by abusing me (a fight he calculated he'll win because no one here knows me).



1) He suggested we nominate someone to shoot so i don't think that he is trying to avoid us lynching a consensus

2) He then later stated that he ment he doesn't care if we shoot mafia or 3p

3)Isn't trying to debunk any plan useful as it can show any weakpoints it has? Yes it could be frustrating but yeah.

4) I dont think this is true. Yeah vets seem to listen to other vets more than newbies but with geript gunning for some of them (rayn for example) how do you think he can count on them to back him?

On March 03 2015 14:05 AT.Epiphany wrote:
On March 03 2015 13:59 Damdred wrote:
....we aren't even interested in talking about t device, fuck the device we are scum hunting to figure out a shot.

I will yolo shoot you so please actually contribute now that you got that out of your system



You should be, I've scum-read you as well now, because you insta-voted PRESS and are trying to avoid discussion. You are most likely scum as well, and I am just as willing to shoot you.

Stop threatening the newbie. I ain't backing down to this behaviour.


You say you are a newbie here yet you seem to think you know geripts meta fairly well which doesn't really add up.

Also I don't like that you promised to talk about the shot before damdred started going hard against you which led me to believe you had thoughts on people other than him yet what you have posted is mostly from after you said you would give thoughts which leads me to believe you had nothing at the time yet you got angry at geript for not waiting for you to post.

Im not sure if im making sense or not but if you could give reads on other people that would probably help.


I spent the last 40 minutes combing the database for Geript's games. I'm new here it doesn't make me stupid.

I'll respond to the rest after I've cooled down a bit, because Geript's abuse has rubbed me the wrong way.


Confirmed town or mafia smurf!
what's that even telling us

Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 18:24 sicklucker wrote:
Rayn just tell everyone to shoot koshi. Whoever shoots anyone besides koshi with out an insane reason is claiming mafia
more of pretending he's doing something as in "see I totally have a read, it's Koshi" without doing anything.

It's not his read on Koshi or what he's posting really, it's the elusive not really afk but just enough under the radar that deserves a shot imo.

gimme some time to look at that guy in that case

You quoted the post I was responding to rsoultin so I don't know if you got it right. To be clear I think sepuclchre is town and LS is scum.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 04 2015 00:17 GMT
#1337
On March 04 2015 09:13 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 09:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 04 2015 09:10 kitaman27 wrote:
bleh well that's unfortunate.

On March 04 2015 09:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ooh, also, is kurumi really chezinu? If so, why is he not chezinu? If not, why didn't we shoot kurumi for being intentionally misleading?


Are these questions serious? -_-

They are letters arranged in a pattern on a screen and as such have no emotion or intent. I was serious when typing them, though.


So you honestly want to policy kurumi for pretending to be someone else? If you want to policy him because he isn't doing anything helpful then fine....but he obviously isn't misleading anyone besides maybe you.

All you had to do was answer the questions since I'm obviously confused about him. I thought it would be more obvious that I'm not happy with him being chezinu rather than playing. My bad.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 04 2015 00:17 GMT
#1338
On March 04 2015 09:15 rsoultin wrote:
I brought attention to how all his null reads were people who have recently played scum that he misread? That's a pattern of his. He's always extra-paranoid about a person he just misread, and I dunnae...it's like LS knows what scummy looks like enough to actually try to avoid the really blatant things if he were scum, cause he actually has some original, decent reads from time to time that people ignore because of how he articulates them

To be fair I haven't rolled scum since Student IV it been a long ass time but that was your first game here silly
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 04 2015 00:18 GMT
#1339
On March 04 2015 09:15 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 09:04 rsoultin wrote:
On March 04 2015 09:00 sandroba wrote:
@rsoultin reasons for thinking LS was a bad shot?


also in my filter really you guys you sadden me

stream-of-consciousness posting is what makes me think he's town, that i'm gonna say everything in my head as soon as it occurs to me with no filter type of posting...and the little nitnoids y'all like to ping him on are just that, little nitnoids that he can do as town or scum

except the list didn't have that at all. in fact the premise of the list is to not be stream of consciousness posting


:/ His posting in general has been stream-of-consciousness. Duh the list wasn't. Your point?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 00:19 GMT
#1340
On March 04 2015 09:15 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 09:13 geript wrote:
On March 04 2015 09:12 kitaman27 wrote:
On March 04 2015 08:41 geript wrote:
@Damdred, Rayn, Kita and Sandroba
I want you to post your thoughts on the following people:
Obiwanshinobi
Batsnacks
Sepulchre
Onegu
Oatsmaster


Most of them I'd probably be guessing at this point due to the size of their filters. I'll check back before the end of the night cycle when we hopefully have more to go by.

Can you check now? Pretty pls.


Why?

Because I'm really impatient.
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