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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 04 2015 19:52 GMT
#1717
On March 05 2015 04:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you seriously thought you have been playing well in this game you would think you have really fucking good reads on D1 and you would have 100% tried to shoot at the 24h mark!!!

100%


On March 04 2015 00:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I want to shoot your mom and i am doing it when the 24h mark passes if i am awake.
I encourage everyone who is town to do that because that dude is 100% mafia.


Maybe you need to be a bit more conservative with your 100%.

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 04 2015 20:23 GMT
#1749
rayn could I get a couple of sentences explaining your town read on rob?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 04 2015 20:27 GMT
#1753
On March 05 2015 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 05:23 kitaman27 wrote:
rayn could I get a couple of sentences explaining your town read on rob?

he is a massive dick if he did what he did at the deadline as mafia.


Heh so you're saying he isn't one?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 04 2015 20:30 GMT
#1755
Lets swap topics.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 04 2015 20:50 GMT
#1770
On March 05 2015 05:31 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 05:30 kitaman27 wrote:
Lets swap topics.

Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 02:58 Toadesstern wrote:
rayn, anything you disagree with or want to add? I honestly don't really care all that much about mafia reads right now and am trying to go by PoE seeing as that your mom thing totally did not work out yesterday and we just have a crapton of people that are just nulls for me. Feel like we should focus on those guys atm, so:

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left out the other green tone for obvious reasons right now.


anything that caught your attention?


Seems pretty close to mine I think.

1) I am honored to have a nickname that references Imperial Japan.

2) Dunno about the Kurumi or Slam town reads. Though to be fair, I have mostly skipped those.

3) Sandroba posturing for a Breshke shot after claiming he intends to shoot probably doesn't make them both mafia. I don't have a huge issue with them in the scummy category though.

4) I don't know if I trust HtS enough to put her on a town list yet.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 04 2015 20:56 GMT
#1775
On March 05 2015 05:36 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 03:38 geript wrote:
@Kita. Regarding Tube. I had to go back and look at my summary of the Newbie game and his filter. On length it's about what I expect. He's under similar pressure in that game too IIRC. There are a few things that I note that are quite different.

First, in the newbie game while his filter isn't great he has some real gems of insight here and there. Things that really show how he's thinking about the game. Not just the "If everyone's scumreading Shining" post but more like:
On January 11 2015 11:17 Tubesock wrote:
Even if you read Rsoultin's legacy concerning Silverarte it's like she doesn't want to insult her by calling her mafia since they are friends. There isn't a single towny word in Rsoultin's paragraph about Silver.

Like it's a really interesting thought. But I'm not really seeing anything like that this game. That's pretty remarkable to me.

Second, in the newbie game he's reasonably opinionated. Like he makes points on people and interacts a bunch. Like almost all of his posts are to someone. I'm going to try and be specific about this but his posts are to the person in relation to the conversation they are having in the thread at that time. Like there's an intended back and forth. Where as this game it's far more of posting at people. Like he's interested in saying something but not in actually conversing or having that back and forth.

Third, I remember one of the heuristics used in Boardwalk revolved around who made plans and why. In Boardwalk, there were numerous plans based around picking numbers and what should be drafted where, etc. But I specifically remember someone talking about how mafia were more likely to propose a plan and just let it die. As I recall, I think it ended up getting a mafia lynched; I think it was part of why Gonzaw suspected Artanis. Either way, what I find interesting about his Votecount thing is that he doesn't really push it. He both likes and understands my "people cleared to shoot" list. But unlike, Rayn or me that game there was no constant revision in order to generate a better plan. There wasn't really any pushing for finding the best plan. It's more of a "I'm doing something plan but I don't really care about it."

Fourth, This post:
On March 04 2015 04:00 Tubesock wrote:
On March 04 2015 03:51 your mom wrote:
On March 04 2015 03:48 Tubesock wrote:
On March 04 2015 03:38 rsoultin wrote:
Tube, I'd rather hear your reads. Your idea wasn't terrible, but the longer you hide behind that list, the more townie points you're losing.


Rayn, Toad, Geript are pretty obvious towns. You're town too, although I feel like Eden would scum you for having a low emote to post ratio. You have been interacting quite a bit.

Mocsta is town for his zealousness going against Epiphany. I think Epiphany is town too because he reminds me of Jarjar stubbornly holding onto his equation (device and how to shoot plan).

Keirathi, Sandroba, Robik (until a just a moment ago), Sicklucker haven't done anything. I'm scumming them for that. I have a tinfoil hat theory on how to read Sicklucker, so if a couple pieces fall together for him I could town him.

Rereading Your Mom, I don't really see anything, but reading Rayn's cases and arguments I'm basically sold he's/she's mafia. Rayn is pretty convincing and I'm strongly townreading him.


rayns arguments are that i scumread people off a few posts before looking at the entire game, and keep scumreading them for those posts (which is supposed to make the whole "fabricated")

now point me to the part you find convincing please. rayn called me mafia on the get go so he couldnt have thought that i was mafia cause stubborn, since it was shortly after game start and before i went to bed. he called me mafia after i woke up today for reasons. but the first time he calls me mafia, do you see a reason for it?


I didn't see a reason for him scumming you at first. But later he does, and lays them out. I read Rayn's case and thought that makes sense. I then reread your filter and the first few pages looking at you and skimming the rest, but then I don't see the scum. But I really think Rayn is town. So, I'm conflicted and unsure. It is why I'm not voting you just yet.

Geript is doing stuff and interacting a lot. He grilled Epiphany (still even but more politely). He doesn't appear to be afraid to say anything and is pushing an agenda. There's some things he's done that seemed scummy (pushing for chaos with plan rejection and not pushing an alternative, pushing the ninja stuff) but that stuff is either outweighed by or explained by his other actions. It's definitely possible he's scum, but we can't shoot him today. No way.

What I find interesting about this post is that finding reasons to call me mafia but doesn't push them. What's more important is he's both buddied me pretty hard at points and both before and after this calls me obvious town. Like that's really, really weird.

Talk about this. While I go grab a cigar.


I don't really have anything to add here. You could probably cherry pick examples from the newbie game to support either conclusion so I don't put a large amount of weight in this. Third point is okay. Fourth point I can see going either way.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 05 2015 00:05 GMT
#1879
Well I guess this effectively makes our job easier by removing Onegu from the discussion.

Either sandroba is town so we don't lynch onegu or sandroba is mafia so we lynch sandroba.

sandroba receiving a cop check doesn't necessarily make him town. Even a fake claim is easy to do in this setup if it's a 1-shot since he isn't forced to keep revealing checks.

I suppose we could try to abuse the setup by having a spirit give one of three players a town role tonight, confirming that they gave sandroba a cop check night one. Gotta think about the logistics of this a bit more.

Going to bed rather soon because I'm really tired. Will give my thoughts tomorrow after reading the three players under consideration and the filters of our flipped players.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 05 2015 00:08 GMT
#1882
sandroba, when are you claiming to have received your cop check?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 05 2015 00:15 GMT
#1888
On March 05 2015 09:12 geript wrote:
Kiat Im surround by stupid poeplo an d mafia. Sav eme!!111


I'm getting buddied by geript all game. Save me!!!
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 05 2015 14:21 GMT
#2145
The number of times the role PM has been brought up this game is absurd. It's obviously cheating guys...
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 05 2015 14:27 GMT
#2147
CAN'T GET ME TILL DAY THREE LOSERS.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 05 2015 15:03 GMT
#2152
On March 04 2015 06:38 sicklucker wrote:
Thats interesting I was wondering what are lovely spirits are doing.

Show nested quote +
IM TOWN GIVE ME GUNS


On March 05 2015 09:02 sicklucker wrote:
Ok so I didnt know spirits can buy roles for people. (THATS HOW YOU KNOW IM TOWN)


Do you suffer from short term memory loss? If not, why are you claiming to be confirmed town because you don't know spirits can buy roles for people if you are asking the spirit for a gun 24 hours earlier. Liars are usually mafia, no?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 05 2015 15:04 GMT
#2153
On March 04 2015 08:52 sandroba wrote:
Rayn I'm torn about right now, his shot was awful


Were you unaware that Rayn was planning to shoot Your Mom? If you considered a shot on Your Mom to be awful, why are you not defending Your Mom prior to the shot? You don't mention him once until after the flip.

On March 03 2015 08:40 sandroba wrote:
@Shootout
I'm gonna be shooting someone as soon as 24h flips because someone is going to do it either way no matter how much we argue about it and I trust me more


If you knew rayn was shooting and you thought Your Mom would be an awful shot, why aren't you shooting one of the four individuals that you suggested?

On March 04 2015 06:24 sandroba wrote:
However that would be lazy and I'm not feeling particularly lazy right now. I shall go back to reading filters.


If you're not feeling particularly lazy, why are your conclusions upon reading these filters summed up in a single line? Who do you think is mafia and why?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 05 2015 16:24 GMT
#2169
On March 06 2015 01:13 sicklucker wrote:
One more random thought before I forget. Breske mocha and kita are all like lock towns for going through my filter. That takes alot of courage even I woulnt go through my town play filter.


Essentially every person you have called mafia has either flipped town or you are calling town now.

Since there are SIX mafia in the game, who do you think is mafia outside of your cell? An explanation of why would be helpful as well.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 05 2015 16:27 GMT
#2170
On March 06 2015 01:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Does sandroba actually play the games he signs up for?


I'm pretty sure he must have joined Jackal's bowling league because he talks about being too busy and going out nearly every game.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 05 2015 16:32 GMT
#2171
Happy Birthday Breshke! I guarded by the way.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 05 2015 20:33 GMT
#2192
I had a couple questions for you on page 108.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 05 2015 20:34 GMT
#2193
Also if you received a vig shot rob and chose not to use it, you deserve to get lynched on day three.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 05 2015 20:37 GMT
#2194
On March 06 2015 05:34 kitaman27 wrote:
Also if you received a vig shot rob and chose not to use it, you deserve to get lynched on day three.


^ meh nevermind. My read on you probably shouldn't be based on something like that since you would just shoot without claiming.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 05 2015 22:38 GMT
#2201
Can the people who are claiming vig shots confirm that they actually received vig shots? I'd like to get a reliable count of our night one actions.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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