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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 05 2015 03:59 GMT
#2010
On March 05 2015 12:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Idk, I like the way he's pushing the thread I guess.

Lmao I shouldn't have opened this game when I'm this tired.


ehh i disagree, I think its scummy that he was trying to push the logic that sandroba is going for a 2 for 1 trade because he has been townreading tube when he has conveniently never mentioned that town read in thead. Like that could be the exactly what is going on but SL keeps claiming these reads which he has never talked about before and it just comes off scummy to me
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 05 2015 04:18 GMT
#2013
On March 04 2015 07:44 sicklucker wrote:
Im thinking like bats/breske maybe dandred but id reread his filter before I make that one


On March 04 2015 07:44 sicklucker wrote:
Like bats acualy goes after someone in his filter and he will yolo shoot to savehimself so maybe not bats


On March 04 2015 09:32 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 08:57 geript wrote:
@Batsnacks
1. Why did you want to shoot Mocsta?
2. Why didn't you try to shoot at all?


because hes mafia


These are your posts on bats in order. Why did you think he was mafia in that last post because you have seemingly changed your mind about that now
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 05 2015 04:44 GMT
#2015
On March 05 2015 13:42 LightningStrike wrote:
Well Breshke and sicklucker going at it I going to bed it's kinda late but when I get back I will check the progress everything!


before you sleep could you give your opinion, like who in the cell is mafia?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 05 2015 07:27 GMT
#2018
On March 05 2015 15:29 Onegu wrote:
I voted SL for now.


This from filtering people or from the thread before?

So my maths could be wrong but if ninjas die through any way (town lynch, ninja shot or mafia shot) i think we are in mylo or lylo tomorrow if we lynch wrong.

If ninjas are not killed and do not shoot we are in lylo D4. I think if they do shoot two more towns we are in lylo D3. This again could be wrong.

Do the maths yourselves but ninjas you need to MAKE SURE you do not shoot anymore towns or else you will most likely just lose to mafia
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 05 2015 07:51 GMT
#2022
On March 05 2015 16:36 IAmRobik wrote:
Who are the people we can lynch today?


SL, sandroba, onegu and tube

Sandroba claims a greencheck on onegu
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 05 2015 07:52 GMT
#2023
On March 05 2015 16:36 IAmRobik wrote:
Wait. nevermind. I can't be lynched. I'll be back in 3 days or so. Good luck


I really hope this is irl reasons and not because you cant be fucked.

What device action did you take?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 05 2015 08:18 GMT
#2025
On March 05 2015 16:55 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 16:51 Breshke wrote:
On March 05 2015 16:36 IAmRobik wrote:
Who are the people we can lynch today?


SL, sandroba, onegu and tube

Sandroba claims a greencheck on onegu

can prolly kill sandro


Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 16:52 Breshke wrote:
On March 05 2015 16:36 IAmRobik wrote:
Wait. nevermind. I can't be lynched. I'll be back in 3 days or so. Good luck


I really hope this is irl reasons and not because you cant be fucked.

What device action did you take?

100% cause I can't be fucked and cause I can't die so suck it. Plus Rayn TR'd me so i can't be lynched or else you're all just gonna be berated in post game

I wrote my action in the thread. If we had to pm it, then i didn't take any. I wrote to destroy in thread


i understand that you cant be lynched but in a lot of situations we are in mylo tomorrow if we get this wrong so it is probably important you look into it because i know your reads are good
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 05 2015 09:13 GMT
#2057
On March 05 2015 18:10 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 18:05 Onegu wrote:
Here is the problem Geript one of the loudest people in the thread would be pushing my lynch so hard if I didn't have a green check, dead townies don't talk. I really believe sandaroba isn't the lynch, I would be if I didn't get a green check.

And my play is really underwhelming this game I know so I am not sure I would have been able to save myself or not. I'm telling you it really doesn't make sense for him to fake a check on the person most likely to get lynched in this cell.


If you are the least likely to get lynched then I would agree with you. But, I just find it hard to believe that you are. I honestly think you are the LEAST likely to be lynched here. I can't see how if you, Sick and I are town that you are actually the easiest mlynch.

I guess we have to agree to disagree on this point. It's really up to the thread to figure that out anyway. If you truly believe this is a true check, then you have to think I'm mafia. I'm doing a desparate play to survive. SL is just being SL. He's not mafia.


I find it really weird that you are totally over suspecting SL. Like yes some of his more recent activty has looked good but his D1 and "D1 reads have been retarded because he apparently posted like only 1/4 of his thoughts.

Also Geript/Mocsta if you could say what your device action was that would be great probs wont be important but ehh
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 05 2015 09:29 GMT
#2075
On March 05 2015 18:19 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 05:43 sicklucker wrote:
Should be inactive for the start of this and confused as fuck


STFU BRESKE THIS IS ME PREGAME. I was in lylo in like two games. I didnt plan to play day1 (like most day ones)

I had a pregame excuse you cant use that garbage that my day 1 was weak. I have a sick amountof solid excuses. Judge me on today whereim clearly town its really not hard


yeah im trying because I get that you were busy with other games as i said when i said you probs wouldnt play like that as amfia either. It is just really fucking hard when it feels like you are just making shit up when you talk about your D1 reads.

That and i don't get why sandro wouldn't claim on someone outside the cell if it was fake. Like it is more "believable" and opens up more options for miss lynches.

On March 05 2015 18:23 sicklucker wrote:
Also my filter this game is almost as long as my entire filter in office mafia oats... Like im never scum here I dont post this much as scum


Wasn't that a PM game? So that has like zero relevance.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 05 2015 09:30 GMT
#2076
On March 05 2015 18:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
Blah I'm not sure if that made sense but sandro could've chose anyone to fake a claim on and he faked it on someone that is up for lynch today and a possible mislynch is a bit too much for me to swallow.


Yeah this is my exact problem.

Also Oats what was your device action
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 05 2015 09:32 GMT
#2078
Also if there is two mafia in the cell the most likely in my mind is Sandro + SL/tube (most likely SL). It would make sense because they might lose a mafia but then one of them comes out of it looking fairly good.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 05 2015 09:43 GMT
#2085
On March 05 2015 18:33 sicklucker wrote:
We used the thread for 90% of context. Why do you always have to argue about everything when your town? I think your town because you did point out there not in my filter. When im mafia my tell is a much smaller filter size. So far I have 9 pages on day 1...

See when you play 3 games at once you forget what you post but I have no reason to make up a town read on the person im up against. I did think those reads I just assumed I wrote them down at some point.


If your town sorry, I just remember someone saying that you as mafia like to make up shit and that's what it has looked like to me a lot. Although it might have been a mafiaJAT who said that but eh
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 05 2015 09:46 GMT
#2087
On March 05 2015 18:43 Tubesock wrote:
Is there really that much more risk by "checking" someone in the cell than outside?

If someone had a cop check on someone and ended up in a cell with them it's an absolute no brainer to claim like Sandroba did.

If the check was outside, wouldn't you claim differently? You guys already kinda thought the claim was too casual as it was.

Plus, hell I'd gamble that Onegu who hasn't really been motivated to play wouldn't be further motivated with a green check. Now you just have to fight against 2 people instead of 3.


yeah but onegu not being motivated to play would be good for a scum sandroba

Also there is definitely more risk. By our own accord you are thinking onegu was confirmed so that means its 1/3 instead of 1/4 of sandroba being lynched.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 05 2015 10:09 GMT
#2098
On March 05 2015 18:48 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 18:43 Breshke wrote:
On March 05 2015 18:33 sicklucker wrote:
We used the thread for 90% of context. Why do you always have to argue about everything when your town? I think your town because you did point out there not in my filter. When im mafia my tell is a much smaller filter size. So far I have 9 pages on day 1...

See when you play 3 games at once you forget what you post but I have no reason to make up a town read on the person im up against. I did think those reads I just assumed I wrote them down at some point.


If your town sorry, I just remember someone saying that you as mafia like to make up shit and that's what it has looked like to me a lot. Although it might have been a mafiaJAT who said that but eh


Everyone makes shit up as mafia... Thats the point its called deception. But how does a townread on a dead person and tubesock push any agenda?


The word random is meant to be in front of shit my bad.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 05 2015 10:17 GMT
#2101
Mocsta could you explain to me why you rpefer SL over Tube. It doesn't have to be that detailed and i know you have given reasons here and there already but I just wanna see it.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 05 2015 10:18 GMT
#2103
On March 05 2015 19:14 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 19:08 geript wrote:
On March 05 2015 19:02 Tubesock wrote:
On March 05 2015 18:52 geript wrote:
On March 05 2015 18:43 Tubesock wrote:
Is there really that much more risk by "checking" someone in the cell than outside?

If someone had a cop check on someone and ended up in a cell with them it's an absolute no brainer to claim like Sandroba did.

If the check was outside, wouldn't you claim differently? You guys already kinda thought the claim was too casual as it was.

Plus, hell I'd gamble that Onegu who hasn't really been motivated to play wouldn't be further motivated with a green check. Now you just have to fight against 2 people instead of 3.

Yes. Because mafia want to create a lynch between 3 people instead of 4 people. Especially when the person they're removing someone from the possibility of being lynched.

Like it's really ridiculous to me. People get powers. We know this. I know that either someone RB'd me or that Sepulchre is not town because I shot his ass last night. Like Sandro claiming a greencheck on an easy mislynch when he's mafia is pretty insane. Like really insane. Like I can't believe that Artanis would be a Bastard host and have 2 mafia in the group. I think he just worded it that way because he wanted to be able to include ninjas. Like so far only 2 people have claimed getting powers, Me and Sandro. Kita's response probably means he got a power too. I'm guess he got medic because that makes the most sense overall.


I don't think it's that insane. I think it's the only sane play he could make. If Sandroba doesn't claim he dies. Even if he were town he was going to die. How could he survive that many dead town scumreads on him? You think no one is going to pick up on that? That you towned him while Rayn and Toad scummed him?

Sicklucker constantly survives to endgame. Onegu is well respected and I think probably tougher to lynch in a cell than any of us in here. That leaves me. I had 4 people towning me, but lots of nulls.

I literally think it's more possible that he's town fakeclaiming than he is real.

Only play? Like there are a billion different plays he could make. Hell, he can red check anyone outside the cell. He can get hard bussed for cred. He can check a partner. He can play like he did in Catastrophe and be really uber towny and not get lynched until like d9. Like there's lots of options for him to take if he's mafia. Like a million different options. Why would he as a good player take the absolute fucking worst line of play physically possible. Like there is 1 play that you do not take as mafia in this situation. And that's the exact play that Sandro made. THE EXACT PLAY. Explain how a vet who's good, really good and spent his last mafia game completely unnoticed until he gave up because all his team got lynched and he was tired of trying to keep playing. Explain how Sandro can as mafia take the absolute worst fucking line of play possible. Like that's the thing that caught me off guard early on.


You're right. There are other plays. This seems to me to be the best. I've said multiple times already why.

So, show that I'm scum or ninja then. You are saying that Sicklucker might be scum over me? But then earlier you said it would be better to lynch ninja. So, why are you not pushing me? Instead of saying how stupid I am.


Lynching the ninja is a fucking horrid play n the situation we are in and i assume no I hope geript has realized that.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 05 2015 10:25 GMT
#2106
On March 05 2015 19:21 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 19:18 Breshke wrote:
On March 05 2015 19:14 Tubesock wrote:
On March 05 2015 19:08 geript wrote:
On March 05 2015 19:02 Tubesock wrote:
On March 05 2015 18:52 geript wrote:
On March 05 2015 18:43 Tubesock wrote:
Is there really that much more risk by "checking" someone in the cell than outside?

If someone had a cop check on someone and ended up in a cell with them it's an absolute no brainer to claim like Sandroba did.

If the check was outside, wouldn't you claim differently? You guys already kinda thought the claim was too casual as it was.

Plus, hell I'd gamble that Onegu who hasn't really been motivated to play wouldn't be further motivated with a green check. Now you just have to fight against 2 people instead of 3.

Yes. Because mafia want to create a lynch between 3 people instead of 4 people. Especially when the person they're removing someone from the possibility of being lynched.

Like it's really ridiculous to me. People get powers. We know this. I know that either someone RB'd me or that Sepulchre is not town because I shot his ass last night. Like Sandro claiming a greencheck on an easy mislynch when he's mafia is pretty insane. Like really insane. Like I can't believe that Artanis would be a Bastard host and have 2 mafia in the group. I think he just worded it that way because he wanted to be able to include ninjas. Like so far only 2 people have claimed getting powers, Me and Sandro. Kita's response probably means he got a power too. I'm guess he got medic because that makes the most sense overall.


I don't think it's that insane. I think it's the only sane play he could make. If Sandroba doesn't claim he dies. Even if he were town he was going to die. How could he survive that many dead town scumreads on him? You think no one is going to pick up on that? That you towned him while Rayn and Toad scummed him?

Sicklucker constantly survives to endgame. Onegu is well respected and I think probably tougher to lynch in a cell than any of us in here. That leaves me. I had 4 people towning me, but lots of nulls.

I literally think it's more possible that he's town fakeclaiming than he is real.

Only play? Like there are a billion different plays he could make. Hell, he can red check anyone outside the cell. He can get hard bussed for cred. He can check a partner. He can play like he did in Catastrophe and be really uber towny and not get lynched until like d9. Like there's lots of options for him to take if he's mafia. Like a million different options. Why would he as a good player take the absolute fucking worst line of play physically possible. Like there is 1 play that you do not take as mafia in this situation. And that's the exact play that Sandro made. THE EXACT PLAY. Explain how a vet who's good, really good and spent his last mafia game completely unnoticed until he gave up because all his team got lynched and he was tired of trying to keep playing. Explain how Sandro can as mafia take the absolute worst fucking line of play possible. Like that's the thing that caught me off guard early on.


You're right. There are other plays. This seems to me to be the best. I've said multiple times already why.

So, show that I'm scum or ninja then. You are saying that Sicklucker might be scum over me? But then earlier you said it would be better to lynch ninja. So, why are you not pushing me? Instead of saying how stupid I am.


Lynching the ninja is a fucking horrid play n the situation we are in and i assume no I hope geript has realized that.

That has to do with kp reduction though.


What? If we kill a ninja the other is also removed from the game. Thats two people who count as numbers for town or whatever i think its called parity? I know their win con isn't to hunt mafia but right know it might as well be because if town keeps getting lynched they just straight up lose both having one shot left. It is better for them for the game to go longer as it narrows down the pool for the other possible ninja. They are basically aligned with whatever side is losing and right now its town.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 05 2015 10:45 GMT
#2118
Oh shit he did call rsoultin town lol

Anyway not sure if this matters but

Press
Breshke
Guard
LS
Destroy
FF
HtS
Mocsta
Did not submit
Tube
Sl
Onegu
OWS
Robik
Oats

This is what people have said so far i believe. Now if we assume that people who did not submit don't default to guard we can draw a few conclsuons about the device.

If mafia know what the device does I believe they could have easily all voted for the same action and gotten it passed considering how many did not submits there is. So it wasn't destroyed meaning it isn't good for town. It wasn't pressed meaning it was currently not good for mafia. It was guarded meaning it may be of future use to mafia.

This is all useless if mafia don't know what the device does so do therefore not give a fuck but we are probably safest destroying it on the off chance they do.

Also I like Mocsta a lot this phase, might be because he is mainly active when I am being from similar timezones but he seems to be trying to lead town when a lot of the people doing this ebfore him (rayn, rsoultin) are now dead. Could argue that this works for him as mafia but his reads are lining up with mine so that also helps.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 05 2015 15:55 GMT
#2155
On March 05 2015 19:45 Breshke wrote:
Oh shit he did call rsoultin town lol

Anyway not sure if this matters but

Press
Breshke
Guard
LS
Destroy
FF
HtS
Mocsta
Did not submit
Tube
Sl
Onegu
OWS
Robik
Oats

This is what people have said so far i believe. Now if we assume that people who did not submit don't default to guard we can draw a few conclsuons about the device.

If mafia know what the device does I believe they could have easily all voted for the same action and gotten it passed considering how many did not submits there is. So it wasn't destroyed meaning it isn't good for town. It wasn't pressed meaning it was currently not good for mafia. It was guarded meaning it may be of future use to mafia.

This is all useless if mafia don't know what the device does so do therefore not give a fuck but we are probably safest destroying it on the off chance they do.

Also I like Mocsta a lot this phase, might be because he is mainly active when I am being from similar timezones but he seems to be trying to lead town when a lot of the people doing this ebfore him (rayn, rsoultin) are now dead. Could argue that this works for him as mafia but his reads are lining up with mine so that also helps.


oats not sure if you are being sarcastic or didnt see this post
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 05 2015 16:10 GMT
#2161
On March 06 2015 01:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yeah exactly you have no strong conclusion to that post and your analysis is useless for finding scum.

Show nested quote +
This is all useless if mafia don't know what the device does so do therefore no give a fuck but we are probably safest destroying it on the off chance they do

What a wishy washy sentence.


Sorry about being wishy washy about a device we have no idea what it does and when half the people didnt even answer the question.

Im going back to bed
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