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On March 03 2015 10:19 Sepulchre wrote:So, these two posts by Half the Sky are, perhaps intentionally, rather bad play, for obvious reasons. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume it is just a bait.
Why do you assume that these statements are a bait? I find it scummy that you call the play bad and then spin it to make it seem like HTS is trying to trap players as if you know she is town or something. Now that it has become apparent that this was not a bait, does your opinion of HTS remain unchanged?
On March 04 2015 06:16 Sepulchre wrote:
I think Raynpelikoneet is the best shot in the long run.
For the record, I'm not in favor of shooting Your Mom, while shooting Koshi is acceptable in my book, but I'm not crazy about it either.
Also, why is that that you are putting effort into your two large posts at the start of the cycle and after the flip, but at the time where your opinion matters most you have a couple of one liners about your shot preference with little attempt to persuade people. You seem very disjointed from the events of the thread. Will this change in the future?
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On March 04 2015 03:48 Tubesock wrote:
Rereading Your Mom, I don't really see anything, but reading Rayn's cases and arguments I'm basically sold he's/she's mafia. Rayn is pretty convincing and I'm strongly townreading him.
On March 04 2015 04:00 Tubesock wrote:
I didn't see a reason for him scumming you at first. But later he does, and lays them out. I read Rayn's case and thought that makes sense. I then reread your filter and the first few pages looking at you and skimming the rest, but then I don't see the scum. But I really think Rayn is town. So, I'm conflicted and unsure. It is why I'm not voting you just yet.
These two posts seem scummy in hindsight. It's tough to follow his thought process in a sequence that makes sense.
From what I can tell:
1) He reads Your Mom's filter, doesn't see anything wrong
2) He reads rayn's case, thinks it makes sense and is sold that he is mafia
3) He rereads Your Mom's filter with rayn's case in mind and still doesn't see anything wrong
As far as I can tell, all three events happened by the time the first post was made since he specifically refers to rereading.
If he doesn't think rayn's case works after rereading, why is he still saying that it makes sense? Can you reread Your Mom's filter with rayn's case in mind and think that BOTH rayn's case make sense and Your Mom's filter is not scummy?
How does he go from "sold he's mafia" to "don't see the scum" in that twelve minute period when questioned further? I also dislike that he mentions multiple times that a large part of the read is based on his view that rayn is town, rather than finding things that make your mom is mafia.
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kitaman27
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Toad where are you at in regards to Tube?
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On March 05 2015 00:44 geript wrote:
Kita so I believe it's morning now.
Prioritizing things I find relevant over things you find relevant. About to go into a meeting, but I'll try to fit it in afterwards.
And to be fair, if I'm looking at your list, you better let me know how you feel about Keirathi, Epiphany, Damdred, Fecal, Tube 
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On March 05 2015 00:47 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2015 00:40 kitaman27 wrote:On March 04 2015 03:48 Tubesock wrote:
Rereading Your Mom, I don't really see anything, but reading Rayn's cases and arguments I'm basically sold he's/she's mafia. Rayn is pretty convincing and I'm strongly townreading him. On March 04 2015 04:00 Tubesock wrote:
I didn't see a reason for him scumming you at first. But later he does, and lays them out. I read Rayn's case and thought that makes sense. I then reread your filter and the first few pages looking at you and skimming the rest, but then I don't see the scum. But I really think Rayn is town. So, I'm conflicted and unsure. It is why I'm not voting you just yet. These two posts seem scummy in hindsight. It's tough to follow his thought process in a sequence that makes sense. From what I can tell: 1) He reads Your Mom's filter, doesn't see anything wrong 2) He reads rayn's case, thinks it makes sense and is sold that he is mafia 3) He rereads Your Mom's filter with rayn's case in mind and still doesn't see anything wrong As far as I can tell, all three events happened by the time the first post was made since he specifically refers to rereading. If he doesn't think rayn's case works after rereading, why is he still saying that it makes sense? Can you reread Your Mom's filter with rayn's case in mind and think that BOTH rayn's case make sense and Your Mom's filter is not scummy? How does he go from "sold he's mafia" to "don't see the scum" in that twelve minute period when questioned further? I also dislike that he mentions multiple times that a large part of the read is based on his view that rayn is town, rather than finding things that make your mom is mafia. LOL its this very post that made me town read him i see lots of town change their view based on ppl they think are towny. not sure if mafia would be so open about this to be honest. +as town im often chastised for switching "strong" viws so i know this isnt a hard mafia indicator, tl;dr hes put his cards exactly as what they are with no additional agenda/distraction afterwards. to me thats townie
Yeah switching views is something I find to be townie as well, but what I'm trying to understand is how he can consider rayn's case to be convincing and making sense, yet unable to find reasons to see why your mom is mafia. It's fine it he takes one stance or the other, but it seems like he took both stances at the same time.
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On March 05 2015 00:39 Half the Sky wrote:
In that game (Carol), OWS did jack all. If I had to take him at face value now, he'd be a good lynch, hasn't done too much beyond tone reads early D1. Definitely forgettable, and doesn't really talk/followup on Bats even post-lynch.
So you draw the comparison to a game where he is town and then conclude that he would be a good lynch?
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On March 05 2015 01:02 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2015 00:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Kita, geript and Keirathi. Also toad. I am home in 1,5gh. Theen let's talk. fuck u guys contemplating a modkill. will make a decision in the morning. night.
I typically try to stay as positive as possible during a game, but anyone purposely taking a modkill because they don't get their way are making an embarrassment of themselves. It's really selfish to just quit on the rest of the players.
If there is something in particular you need addressed let me know, but drop the attitude please.
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On March 05 2015 01:01 Half the Sky wrote:
Basically if you know him better Kita, is his town meta normally on the lazy side (think VayneAuthority, etc)?
heh I'm not sure if this is true, but I always get the impression that the first thing obi does when catching up on the game is running a ctrl f on his name to see who is talking about him. He kinda showed that with the shot comment.
I wouldn't consider myself knowing him any better than anyone else though.
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On March 04 2015 09:12 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 08:41 geript wrote:
@Damdred, Rayn, Kita and Sandroba
I want you to post your thoughts on the following people:
Obiwanshinobi
Batsnacks
Sepulchre
Onegu
Oatsmaster
Most of them I'd probably be guessing at this point due to the size of their filters. I'll check back before the end of the night cycle when we hopefully have more to go by.
Obiwanshinobi - Don't have a great explanation but towny I think? He makes a few bold comments about the differences in koshi's player that are a bit risky. You can argue there is the pushing the mafia agenda angle with that, but I didn't come to that conclusion.
Batsnacks - lol it takes guts to threaten to shoot a player without reading the thread. He never followed through so I'd like to hear his motivations there. Either lynch bait or useless scummer. Either way, dragging the town down with his current play.
Sepulchre - Leaning a bit scummy here, though his views are detailed enough that a higher quantity of posts will probably make his alignment more apparent. As I mentioned earlier, I took issue with the assumption that HtS was town after noticing scummy posts. He needs to recognize that several players are going to take issue with his play at the current activity level. I need to think about rayn's position in the game a bit more before evaluating his case here.
Onegu - Not really sure. Townie before scum I guess? Definitely need more posts here, especially when we're trying to figure out the lynch. It's weird that a player with so few reads decides that I'm the guy that makes his top three list. Does a low post count mafia player mention me like that? Typically they try to buddy me instead.
Oatsmaster - Originally I had him as a ninja because his posts were so well hidden in the thread that I couldn't find any 
His comments about having no intention reading the thread raise my blood pressure a bit, but I don't have a read on him.
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On March 05 2015 02:37 Half the Sky wrote:
Bah, you ninjaed me.
^^ Breadcrumb.....shoot away! 
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On March 05 2015 04:07 AT.Epiphany wrote:
At this point, my main point of interest is getting into the dispute between Mocsta and Breshke. I'm confident that one of the two of these guys is definitely scum and that this isn't TOWN-TOWN
Same post later on:
On March 05 2015 04:07 AT.Epiphany wrote:
Also, I'm null on Breshke
How can you say it's not town-town if you are NULL on Breshke? Your first sentence suggests that if Mocsta is town, Breshke is mafia, but your second suggests you don't have a read on Breshke.
Could you elaborate here?
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On March 05 2015 04:11 geript wrote:
Like literally Rayn, keep on talking. Just keep that fucking mouth running. Because I'm going to fucking shoot someone tonight. And the more you talk the more likely I'm just going just shoot you in the fucking face because you do this every fucking game. EVERY FUCKING GAME!!!!! You get to the point where, "No. Geript can totally be mafia here. I'm even sure of it." Fuck that shit. Fuck that shit right in the ass. I'm not even going to bother talking to you anymore. I don't even know why I fucking bother in the first place. Like seriously, what the fuck?
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On March 05 2015 04:22 AT.Epiphany wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2015 04:16 kitaman27 wrote:On March 05 2015 04:07 AT.Epiphany wrote:
At this point, my main point of interest is getting into the dispute between Mocsta and Breshke. I'm confident that one of the two of these guys is definitely scum and that this isn't TOWN-TOWN Same post later on: On March 05 2015 04:07 AT.Epiphany wrote:
Also, I'm null on Breshke How can you say it's not town-town if you are NULL on Breshke? Your first sentence suggests that if Mocsta is town, Breshke is mafia, but your second suggests you don't have a read on Breshke. Could you elaborate here? I just mean I'm sure one of them is scum, but I'm not sure which.
Why?
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kitaman27
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Rob on day one you threatened to shoot Kurumi, Koshi (RIP), myself, batsnacks, and LS.
Of the remaining four, which would you still shoot right now?
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On March 05 2015 04:29 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2015 04:27 geript wrote:
ATTENTION WHOEVER GOT A MEDIC ROLE!!! I WAS GIVEN A GUN!!! I WILL BE SHOOTING RAYN!!! SO IF YOU FUCKiNG SAVE HIM I WILL LYNCH YOU OUT OF SPITE!!!!!!!!!! why are so many people faking... like srsly who would give you a gun
Maybe they had something like this in mind?
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+ Show Spoiler +jk geript, please don't shoot me
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On March 05 2015 04:36 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2015 02:06 Kurumi wrote:Oh no!!! Not Kosher the Printer Repair Guy!!! It must've been those HR people! Vile snakes! They are supposed to help people, not get them to kill themselves!!! It's probably because of the name. Human Resources. Do you feel like a resource? I don't. I work with HR. People work with HR. HR is everywhere. I have made a grave mistake not reforming this branch of my company. From now on we have a department called People's Republic! Hmm... no, it does not work... It'll clash with Public Relations... Think Chezinu think... Ah! The meeting! Yes, yes, yes... Welcome all!  I am very displeased that our freshest addition had to be terminated today. He passed our tests and filed the forms with flying colours! Many employees he was working with reported suspicious behaviour, which I have also taken into account, as something possibly connected to the T.E.A.M. . His blatant lies about my nature, your Benevolent CEO, and misconduct were enough of a basis to believe his intentions are not the best. After contacting some of my friends, including Lucy and John, we agreed that it was just him being young and naive. I forgive you and am pleased to inform you that skills you possess will surely come in handy in two years from now on. Please apply again! Positive outcome is sure! As I've told you all, it is very important to have your gun polished! What I didn't say is that you can polish your guns elsewhere cheaper! But wait! There's more! Polishing your gun somewhere else had a chance of the employee just spitting on the gun, then using toilet paper to scrape off what he could, rendering your gun totally useless instead of potentially useless! That's what happened - that's what I told you! The question arises - why would somebody use shady services instead of the trustworthy Corporation? Why would they use such services then to kill one of good employees? Why did they tried to influence our workplace using foreign means? Fufufu... if I only could send people to HR... That reminds me, HR stays. As Human Removal. I have such power to do so and I am going to use it! Haha! Always sunny in CEO's room! Updated list: Chezinu
raynpelikoneet
LightningStrike
HalfTheSky
Alakaslam
your mom
Koshi
syllogism
Toadesstern
Foolishness
Sepulchre
Mocsta
IAmRobik
Kurumi
sicklucker
Keirathi
ObiWanShinobi
kitatheman27 I'm not fully caught up but did anyone else actually look at this list? Nobody really commented on it in the next page or so afterward. 1)Syllogism/foolishness, how does he know which spirit is which and why are they even on the list? 2)I don't exist? 3)Are there blues in this game? I thought someone (koshi?) said there were none and we had to get powers from the spirits. Why are people blue coloured and why are you blue yourself in this list? 4)No explanation for anything, how has nobody other than LS pinged this list? AM I MISSING SOME SUPER OBVIOUS JOKE HERE?
Heh you're absent from the thread for 15 hours and this is the topic you decide to comment about upon your return? Any conclusion here?
Also, 1) No 2) Yes 3) Dunno 4) meh
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On March 05 2015 04:40 AT.Epiphany wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2015 04:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2015 04:33 AT.Epiphany wrote:On March 05 2015 04:23 kitaman27 wrote:On March 05 2015 04:22 AT.Epiphany wrote:On March 05 2015 04:16 kitaman27 wrote:On March 05 2015 04:07 AT.Epiphany wrote:
At this point, my main point of interest is getting into the dispute between Mocsta and Breshke. I'm confident that one of the two of these guys is definitely scum and that this isn't TOWN-TOWN Same post later on: On March 05 2015 04:07 AT.Epiphany wrote:
Also, I'm null on Breshke How can you say it's not town-town if you are NULL on Breshke? Your first sentence suggests that if Mocsta is town, Breshke is mafia, but your second suggests you don't have a read on Breshke. Could you elaborate here? I just mean I'm sure one of them is scum, but I'm not sure which. Why? Primarily because of the tone of the interaction with Mocsta tunnelling Breshke and the latter reacting to Mocsta as a threat. There doesn't seem to be even a bit of pause where either of them is considering the other to be on the same side, and that's usually not how I'd expect it in town vs town. What's more this wasn't really heated or personal either, and it doesn't look like an ego-clash the way people have interpreted Geript vs me (to clarify I still stick with my initial opinion of that, but there's no point going over that at the moment and ruining a constructive atmosphere) How does the bolded part make sense? Given the underlined if they are town-mafia, wouldn't the townie act like he would vs another town aswell -> still consider the other one as being on the same side at some point? Not if he thinks the other guy is deliberately picking on slips to fabricate a case, which is the first thing Breshke accuses Mocsta of...that's why I referred to the tone. I
But what you're saying is:
1 of Mocsta or Breshke is mafia because they don't give pause.
Therefore, 1 of Mocsta or Breshke is town.
Hence, 1 of Mocsta or Breshke is town, yet they don't give pause.
It's not making sense to me.
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On March 05 2015 04:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
kita are you serious?
Sometimes?
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On March 05 2015 04:47 AT.Epiphany wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2015 04:44 kitaman27 wrote:On March 05 2015 04:40 AT.Epiphany wrote:On March 05 2015 04:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2015 04:33 AT.Epiphany wrote:On March 05 2015 04:23 kitaman27 wrote:On March 05 2015 04:22 AT.Epiphany wrote:On March 05 2015 04:16 kitaman27 wrote:On March 05 2015 04:07 AT.Epiphany wrote:
At this point, my main point of interest is getting into the dispute between Mocsta and Breshke. I'm confident that one of the two of these guys is definitely scum and that this isn't TOWN-TOWN Same post later on: On March 05 2015 04:07 AT.Epiphany wrote:
Also, I'm null on Breshke How can you say it's not town-town if you are NULL on Breshke? Your first sentence suggests that if Mocsta is town, Breshke is mafia, but your second suggests you don't have a read on Breshke. Could you elaborate here? I just mean I'm sure one of them is scum, but I'm not sure which. Why? Primarily because of the tone of the interaction with Mocsta tunnelling Breshke and the latter reacting to Mocsta as a threat. There doesn't seem to be even a bit of pause where either of them is considering the other to be on the same side, and that's usually not how I'd expect it in town vs town. What's more this wasn't really heated or personal either, and it doesn't look like an ego-clash the way people have interpreted Geript vs me (to clarify I still stick with my initial opinion of that, but there's no point going over that at the moment and ruining a constructive atmosphere) How does the bolded part make sense? Given the underlined if they are town-mafia, wouldn't the townie act like he would vs another town aswell -> still consider the other one as being on the same side at some point? Not if he thinks the other guy is deliberately picking on slips to fabricate a case, which is the first thing Breshke accuses Mocsta of...that's why I referred to the tone. I But what you're saying is: 1 of Mocsta or Breshke is mafia because they don't give pause. Therefore, 1 of Mocsta or Breshke is town. Hence, 1 of Mocsta or Breshke is town, yet they don't give pause. It's not making sense to me. I'm just saying whoever the townie is thinks the other guy is mafia and framing him. Obviously, they don't necessarily have to think that way, but the tone of this interaction clearly indicates they do.
But why cant Mocsta be a townie who thanks Breshke is mafia and is framing him and Breshke be a townie who thanks Mocsta is mafia and is framing him?
Still don't see why it's one or the other.
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On March 05 2015 04:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2015 04:45 kitaman27 wrote:On March 05 2015 04:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
kita are you serious? Sometimes? How can you possibly say "dunno" to "no bules in this game?" question?
Because I don't know the timeline of when the spirits buy roles for their faction?
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