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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 03 2015 19:06 GMT
#936
On March 04 2015 04:03 geript wrote:
I'd replace tube/ff/Koshi with slam/breschke/ +1. Probaly Kita. This doesn't remind of the game where I was mafia with him. Not really seeing agenda driven play.

kita's filter more useless than koshi's while being more "informative" on game-related topics like "i implore you to explain your shot people"
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 03 2015 19:07 GMT
#937
On March 04 2015 04:05 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 04:03 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 04 2015 04:00 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 04 2015 03:57 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 03 2015 10:36 Fecalfeast wrote:
ok tubesack is pretty townie

yea...this post

You calling that post bad? If so you got more stuff on FF other than that post?

wtf?!?!?!?

Why wtf? Clearly I asking your thing on FF.

clearly i'm done fucking talking to you since you literally read one post of mine and drew some random fucking conclusion when in the VERY PREVIOUS POST I MADE ABOUT FF I CALLED HIM TOWN AND HAD HIM AS TOWN IN MY LIST AND GERIPT ASKED ME TO JUSTIFY WHY I THOUGHT HE WAS TOWN
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 03 2015 19:08 GMT
#939
On March 04 2015 04:05 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 04:00 your mom wrote:
On March 03 2015 08:02 geript wrote:
I actually am pretty sure that HTS is going to get shot by me in 24 hours. Like 98% sure unless somebody is a complete dumbass and tunnels me for a really dumbass reason.


geript do you still stand by this

No. I really liked the point Rayn made on HtS. The slam post was really interesting. Really poignant.

The problem I have with HtS is that she's not asking people for opinions. That's a staple of her town play and it's just not happening this game. Contrarily, I really like her opening and I like her justification that it's not scummy because she's town. I might be misremembering my own play, but I think I usually say that type of stuff as town and not mafia.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 03 2015 19:12 GMT
#947
On March 04 2015 04:10 your mom wrote:
moving rayn from the town pile

you literally just said that you didn't have him in your town pile 5 posts ago. WTF are you doing !??!?
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 03 2015 19:13 GMT
#949
On March 04 2015 03:53 your mom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 03:48 Tubesock wrote:
On March 04 2015 03:38 rsoultin wrote:
Tube, I'd rather hear your reads. Your idea wasn't terrible, but the longer you hide behind that list, the more townie points you're losing.


Rayn, Toad, Geript are pretty obvious towns. You're town too, although I feel like Eden would scum you for having a low emote to post ratio. You have been interacting quite a bit.

Mocsta is town for his zealousness going against Epiphany. I think Epiphany is town too because he reminds me of Jarjar stubbornly holding onto his equation (device and how to shoot plan).

Keirathi, Sandroba, Robik (until a just a moment ago), Sicklucker haven't done anything. I'm scumming them for that. I have a tinfoil hat theory on how to read Sicklucker, so if a couple pieces fall together for him I could town him.

Rereading Your Mom, I don't really see anything, but reading Rayn's cases and arguments I'm basically sold he's/she's mafia. Rayn is pretty convincing and I'm strongly townreading him.


inclined to agree on toad, too early for rayn to be obvious, didnt really see geript shining town, in fact i should take a look at him, why is geript obvious town?

WHEN THE FUCK DID YOU HAVE RAYN IN YOUR TOWN PILE?!?!?
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 03 2015 19:15 GMT
#954
On March 04 2015 04:14 your mom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 04:13 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 04 2015 03:53 your mom wrote:
On March 04 2015 03:48 Tubesock wrote:
On March 04 2015 03:38 rsoultin wrote:
Tube, I'd rather hear your reads. Your idea wasn't terrible, but the longer you hide behind that list, the more townie points you're losing.


Rayn, Toad, Geript are pretty obvious towns. You're town too, although I feel like Eden would scum you for having a low emote to post ratio. You have been interacting quite a bit.

Mocsta is town for his zealousness going against Epiphany. I think Epiphany is town too because he reminds me of Jarjar stubbornly holding onto his equation (device and how to shoot plan).

Keirathi, Sandroba, Robik (until a just a moment ago), Sicklucker haven't done anything. I'm scumming them for that. I have a tinfoil hat theory on how to read Sicklucker, so if a couple pieces fall together for him I could town him.

Rereading Your Mom, I don't really see anything, but reading Rayn's cases and arguments I'm basically sold he's/she's mafia. Rayn is pretty convincing and I'm strongly townreading him.


inclined to agree on toad, too early for rayn to be obvious, didnt really see geript shining town, in fact i should take a look at him, why is geript obvious town?

WHEN THE FUCK DID YOU HAVE RAYN IN YOUR TOWN PILE?!?!?


literally a few posts before that one

So you moved him from town to "too early to read" to "not town" in the matter of 5 posts?
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 03 2015 19:22 GMT
#958
On March 04 2015 04:20 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 04:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
your mom - kill with fire right fucking now
sandroba
kita
batsnacks


i don't know about the rest but somewhere between
Onegu/Koshi/Slam/Sepulchre/Damdred/Robert.

My order:
Koshi--Bitch plz
Onegu--I'm actually really glad you brought him up. I had kinda forgotten about him. That's actually quite telling.
Sandroba--I think there's better ways of finding his alignment but probably not a bad shot
Your Mom--Maybe rayn is right. Maybe rayn is crazy.

Those are the only people I really agree with. Robik is kinda tbd but his townlist is pretty solid for the most part I think. Slam's town. I remember thinking Damdred was town.

I remember thinking slam was town too -- and i have no idea how to read slam
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 03 2015 19:33 GMT
#965
On March 04 2015 04:25 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 04:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ehh are you saying he is not mafia because of your meta read?
well that does not work out, he usually steers lynches as town aswell.

No like, D1 Bugs made a case on Greymist because GM was busy and he could get him lynched. But like, throughout the game Kita was in and out picking and poking. Like it's not because he's pushing lynches. It's because of like how he's posting. Like as mafia I remember reading him and bugs after that game like 8-10 times trying to figure out what I could improve. Like it's more that his posts don't seem idk directional. Like there's not a clear purpose or agenda that he's trying to make. Rather that he's just try to make points. Like that's what I remember thinking and that's what I find very towny about him.

like
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 03 2015 19:34 GMT
#967
geript, can i shoot hts? i don't wanna have to read her
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 03 2015 19:46 GMT
#984
On March 04 2015 04:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 04:41 Half the Sky wrote:
Keirathi and Kurumi, I have not played with either as much - does anyone know if they are low-count posters or not?

both are probably town.

WTF IS THIS BULLSHIT READ RAYN
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 03 2015 19:47 GMT
#989
On March 04 2015 04:45 Tubesock wrote:
My tinfoil hat says Your Mom is Palmar. I keep thinking about Palmar when I read his stuff. Mostly, fantastically early scumread on someone and sticking to it for years.


fits with the meta of not having read a single one of my posts :D
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 03 2015 20:33 GMT
#1039
I think sicklucker is town
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 03 2015 20:34 GMT
#1041
On March 04 2015 05:32 Toadesstern wrote:
sicklucker seems like a really good shot to me right now.

Under the rader, only doing 1 line posts, none of them do anything, only talking about mechanics or something that looks like something but isn't actually because he refuses to do the extramile and do some analysis, like:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 15:54 sicklucker wrote:
On March 03 2015 15:12 AT.Epiphany wrote:
On March 03 2015 15:10 Breshke wrote:
On March 03 2015 14:56 AT.Epiphany wrote:
So here's my scumread on Geript:

Every single time he's been Mafia he's far more aggressive and confrontational than he is as Town. Moreover his mafia games have him rapidly suggesting lynch targets and putting out scumpiles pretty quickly. As a mafia (and not as a Town) he invariably pushes multiple targets and acts aggressively. Here as well, he started pushing Koshi and the moment I made my post, his first reaction (even though I said I'm posting on shots as a follow-up) was to scumread me because my post was filler.

It isn't filler, the first person to post after me recognized as such, and geript has gambled on being aggressive and unpleasant thinking that people will agree with him because I am new to this forum. Look at his main contribution in the thread.

1) He's tried to normalize the idea that there's no point in trying to reach a consensus on a shot because somebody will shoot anyway. What he's really trying to push though, is the idea that it's normal and ok for everyone to take a shot at 24 hrs and the reason he's doing this is because he doesn't want anybody to gain any information from the shot, which is why he's trying to press the line that there's no point reaching a consensus and then lynching anyone who breaks the consensus.

2) He's then tried to press the nonsensical idea of trying to hunt/lynch the 3P although that makes very little sense for reasons that have already been pointed out.

3) He tries to establish credibility by saying "these are the people I'm ok taking a shot". That doesn't prove anything though, especially since at this point he's done nothing useful except to try and debunk our most useful way of gaining information, which is to try and shoot the guy with the most votes.

4) He's been the one to try and turn the thread into a fight by abusing me (a fight he calculated he'll win because no one here knows me).



1) He suggested we nominate someone to shoot so i don't think that he is trying to avoid us lynching a consensus

2) He then later stated that he ment he doesn't care if we shoot mafia or 3p

3)Isn't trying to debunk any plan useful as it can show any weakpoints it has? Yes it could be frustrating but yeah.

4) I dont think this is true. Yeah vets seem to listen to other vets more than newbies but with geript gunning for some of them (rayn for example) how do you think he can count on them to back him?

On March 03 2015 14:05 AT.Epiphany wrote:
On March 03 2015 13:59 Damdred wrote:
....we aren't even interested in talking about t device, fuck the device we are scum hunting to figure out a shot.

I will yolo shoot you so please actually contribute now that you got that out of your system



You should be, I've scum-read you as well now, because you insta-voted PRESS and are trying to avoid discussion. You are most likely scum as well, and I am just as willing to shoot you.

Stop threatening the newbie. I ain't backing down to this behaviour.


You say you are a newbie here yet you seem to think you know geripts meta fairly well which doesn't really add up.

Also I don't like that you promised to talk about the shot before damdred started going hard against you which led me to believe you had thoughts on people other than him yet what you have posted is mostly from after you said you would give thoughts which leads me to believe you had nothing at the time yet you got angry at geript for not waiting for you to post.

Im not sure if im making sense or not but if you could give reads on other people that would probably help.


I spent the last 40 minutes combing the database for Geript's games. I'm new here it doesn't make me stupid.

I'll respond to the rest after I've cooled down a bit, because Geript's abuse has rubbed me the wrong way.


Confirmed town or mafia smurf!
what's that even telling us

Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 18:24 sicklucker wrote:
Rayn just tell everyone to shoot koshi. Whoever shoots anyone besides koshi with out an insane reason is claiming mafia
more of pretending he's doing something as in "see I totally have a read, it's Koshi" without doing anything.

It's not his read on Koshi or what he's posting really, it's the elusive not really afk but just enough under the radar that deserves a shot imo.

hahahahahahaha i literally just read his filter and came to the opposite conclusion
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 03 2015 20:36 GMT
#1043
Maybe I'll shoot batsnacks
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 03 2015 20:38 GMT
#1048
On March 04 2015 05:35 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 05:34 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 04 2015 05:32 Toadesstern wrote:
sicklucker seems like a really good shot to me right now.

Under the rader, only doing 1 line posts, none of them do anything, only talking about mechanics or something that looks like something but isn't actually because he refuses to do the extramile and do some analysis, like:
On March 03 2015 15:54 sicklucker wrote:
On March 03 2015 15:12 AT.Epiphany wrote:
On March 03 2015 15:10 Breshke wrote:
On March 03 2015 14:56 AT.Epiphany wrote:
So here's my scumread on Geript:

Every single time he's been Mafia he's far more aggressive and confrontational than he is as Town. Moreover his mafia games have him rapidly suggesting lynch targets and putting out scumpiles pretty quickly. As a mafia (and not as a Town) he invariably pushes multiple targets and acts aggressively. Here as well, he started pushing Koshi and the moment I made my post, his first reaction (even though I said I'm posting on shots as a follow-up) was to scumread me because my post was filler.

It isn't filler, the first person to post after me recognized as such, and geript has gambled on being aggressive and unpleasant thinking that people will agree with him because I am new to this forum. Look at his main contribution in the thread.

1) He's tried to normalize the idea that there's no point in trying to reach a consensus on a shot because somebody will shoot anyway. What he's really trying to push though, is the idea that it's normal and ok for everyone to take a shot at 24 hrs and the reason he's doing this is because he doesn't want anybody to gain any information from the shot, which is why he's trying to press the line that there's no point reaching a consensus and then lynching anyone who breaks the consensus.

2) He's then tried to press the nonsensical idea of trying to hunt/lynch the 3P although that makes very little sense for reasons that have already been pointed out.

3) He tries to establish credibility by saying "these are the people I'm ok taking a shot". That doesn't prove anything though, especially since at this point he's done nothing useful except to try and debunk our most useful way of gaining information, which is to try and shoot the guy with the most votes.

4) He's been the one to try and turn the thread into a fight by abusing me (a fight he calculated he'll win because no one here knows me).



1) He suggested we nominate someone to shoot so i don't think that he is trying to avoid us lynching a consensus

2) He then later stated that he ment he doesn't care if we shoot mafia or 3p

3)Isn't trying to debunk any plan useful as it can show any weakpoints it has? Yes it could be frustrating but yeah.

4) I dont think this is true. Yeah vets seem to listen to other vets more than newbies but with geript gunning for some of them (rayn for example) how do you think he can count on them to back him?

On March 03 2015 14:05 AT.Epiphany wrote:
On March 03 2015 13:59 Damdred wrote:
....we aren't even interested in talking about t device, fuck the device we are scum hunting to figure out a shot.

I will yolo shoot you so please actually contribute now that you got that out of your system



You should be, I've scum-read you as well now, because you insta-voted PRESS and are trying to avoid discussion. You are most likely scum as well, and I am just as willing to shoot you.

Stop threatening the newbie. I ain't backing down to this behaviour.


You say you are a newbie here yet you seem to think you know geripts meta fairly well which doesn't really add up.

Also I don't like that you promised to talk about the shot before damdred started going hard against you which led me to believe you had thoughts on people other than him yet what you have posted is mostly from after you said you would give thoughts which leads me to believe you had nothing at the time yet you got angry at geript for not waiting for you to post.

Im not sure if im making sense or not but if you could give reads on other people that would probably help.


I spent the last 40 minutes combing the database for Geript's games. I'm new here it doesn't make me stupid.

I'll respond to the rest after I've cooled down a bit, because Geript's abuse has rubbed me the wrong way.


Confirmed town or mafia smurf!
what's that even telling us

On March 03 2015 18:24 sicklucker wrote:
Rayn just tell everyone to shoot koshi. Whoever shoots anyone besides koshi with out an insane reason is claiming mafia
more of pretending he's doing something as in "see I totally have a read, it's Koshi" without doing anything.

It's not his read on Koshi or what he's posting really, it's the elusive not really afk but just enough under the radar that deserves a shot imo.

hahahahahahaha i literally just read his filter and came to the opposite conclusion

why do you think he's townie

Conviction
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 03 2015 20:40 GMT
#1049
On March 04 2015 05:38 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 05:35 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 04 2015 05:34 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 04 2015 05:32 Toadesstern wrote:
sicklucker seems like a really good shot to me right now.

Under the rader, only doing 1 line posts, none of them do anything, only talking about mechanics or something that looks like something but isn't actually because he refuses to do the extramile and do some analysis, like:
On March 03 2015 15:54 sicklucker wrote:
On March 03 2015 15:12 AT.Epiphany wrote:
On March 03 2015 15:10 Breshke wrote:
On March 03 2015 14:56 AT.Epiphany wrote:
So here's my scumread on Geript:

Every single time he's been Mafia he's far more aggressive and confrontational than he is as Town. Moreover his mafia games have him rapidly suggesting lynch targets and putting out scumpiles pretty quickly. As a mafia (and not as a Town) he invariably pushes multiple targets and acts aggressively. Here as well, he started pushing Koshi and the moment I made my post, his first reaction (even though I said I'm posting on shots as a follow-up) was to scumread me because my post was filler.

It isn't filler, the first person to post after me recognized as such, and geript has gambled on being aggressive and unpleasant thinking that people will agree with him because I am new to this forum. Look at his main contribution in the thread.

1) He's tried to normalize the idea that there's no point in trying to reach a consensus on a shot because somebody will shoot anyway. What he's really trying to push though, is the idea that it's normal and ok for everyone to take a shot at 24 hrs and the reason he's doing this is because he doesn't want anybody to gain any information from the shot, which is why he's trying to press the line that there's no point reaching a consensus and then lynching anyone who breaks the consensus.

2) He's then tried to press the nonsensical idea of trying to hunt/lynch the 3P although that makes very little sense for reasons that have already been pointed out.

3) He tries to establish credibility by saying "these are the people I'm ok taking a shot". That doesn't prove anything though, especially since at this point he's done nothing useful except to try and debunk our most useful way of gaining information, which is to try and shoot the guy with the most votes.

4) He's been the one to try and turn the thread into a fight by abusing me (a fight he calculated he'll win because no one here knows me).



1) He suggested we nominate someone to shoot so i don't think that he is trying to avoid us lynching a consensus

2) He then later stated that he ment he doesn't care if we shoot mafia or 3p

3)Isn't trying to debunk any plan useful as it can show any weakpoints it has? Yes it could be frustrating but yeah.

4) I dont think this is true. Yeah vets seem to listen to other vets more than newbies but with geript gunning for some of them (rayn for example) how do you think he can count on them to back him?

On March 03 2015 14:05 AT.Epiphany wrote:
On March 03 2015 13:59 Damdred wrote:
....we aren't even interested in talking about t device, fuck the device we are scum hunting to figure out a shot.

I will yolo shoot you so please actually contribute now that you got that out of your system



You should be, I've scum-read you as well now, because you insta-voted PRESS and are trying to avoid discussion. You are most likely scum as well, and I am just as willing to shoot you.

Stop threatening the newbie. I ain't backing down to this behaviour.


You say you are a newbie here yet you seem to think you know geripts meta fairly well which doesn't really add up.

Also I don't like that you promised to talk about the shot before damdred started going hard against you which led me to believe you had thoughts on people other than him yet what you have posted is mostly from after you said you would give thoughts which leads me to believe you had nothing at the time yet you got angry at geript for not waiting for you to post.

Im not sure if im making sense or not but if you could give reads on other people that would probably help.


I spent the last 40 minutes combing the database for Geript's games. I'm new here it doesn't make me stupid.

I'll respond to the rest after I've cooled down a bit, because Geript's abuse has rubbed me the wrong way.


Confirmed town or mafia smurf!
what's that even telling us

On March 03 2015 18:24 sicklucker wrote:
Rayn just tell everyone to shoot koshi. Whoever shoots anyone besides koshi with out an insane reason is claiming mafia
more of pretending he's doing something as in "see I totally have a read, it's Koshi" without doing anything.

It's not his read on Koshi or what he's posting really, it's the elusive not really afk but just enough under the radar that deserves a shot imo.

hahahahahahaha i literally just read his filter and came to the opposite conclusion

why do you think he's townie

Conviction

I was originally coming to the same conclusion as you regarding the 1-liners though. I think you're town for seeing that and thinking it is mafia. I just read it deeper and he seemed genuinely convinced that koshi was scum for his attitude and actions
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 03 2015 20:42 GMT
#1053
On March 04 2015 05:42 geript wrote:
I'm trying to decide if I should shoot Koshi over Onegu. Like Koshi's fucking terrible after D1 and, if he's town, has sand up his vag and is doing nothing now. I think Onegu is a much better shot, but a Koshi shot would be much more gratifying.

#batsnacks
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 03 2015 21:17 GMT
#1075
On March 04 2015 06:01 your mom wrote:
kita deffo town after just reading last half of his filter.

kurumis reads are awful and his roleplay makes him look awful, last time i saw him roleplay or post bollocks he was scum. rayns argument "he wouldnt do x or y neither as town nor as scum" for him being town doesn't make sense from where im at.

proof please. This was the only reason i was TRing him of late, but if this is his scum meta, i would love to know
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 03 2015 21:21 GMT
#1082
Could also shoot LS.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 03 2015 21:22 GMT
#1085
On March 04 2015 06:20 sicklucker wrote:
Rayn completely avoided questioning koshi when he was spamming garbage is interesting. This might matter latter guys.

This tunnel is cute and all, but do you have other reads?
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